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I found a very interesting source, which doesn't criticize the academic left but analyzes it in depth (also comparing it with the conservative point of view): [1]; can we add this source to the article? JacktheBrown (talk) 08:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. From WP:RSNP "Medium is a blog hosting service. As a self-published source, it is considered generally unreliable and should be avoided unless the author is a subject-matter expert or the blog is used for uncontroversial self-descriptions. Medium should never be used as a secondary source for living persons. A 2022 RfC also found that Cuepoint, Medium's music publication, is marginally reliable, with editors stating that its reliability depends on the qualification of the author." Doug Weller talk 09:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change the recommended "..., Marxism and Keynesianism, ..." under Economics to "..., Marxism, Keynesianism, ..." Anton Siligan (talk) 10:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The link behind "Marxism and Keynesianism" leads to an article about a comparison between the two, so instead of separating with a comma, I'll use the complete article title ("Comparison of Marxian and Keynesian economics") for clarity. ObserveOwl 🎄 (talk) 17:06, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ObserveOwl I wouldn't say that the comparison is as relevant as the two individual pages. Do you agree?

Happy new year! Anton Siligan (talk) 17:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Anton Siligan: Keynesian economics is already linked at "Left-leaning economic beliefs range from Keynesian economics...", and Marxian economics is linked at "Other leftists believe in Marxian economics". Those two links would probably be redundant if they were also inserted onto the "see also" hatnote. On the other hand, the comparison article doesn't seem to be linked outside that hatnote. ObserveOwl (talk) 17:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done - thank you and merry Christmas! ObserveOwl 🎄 (talk) 17:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+I found a very interesting source, which doesn't criticize the academic left but analyzes it in depth (also comparing it with the conservative point of view): [https://medium.com/@ilmestyz/why-academia-is-left-leaning-a3ef4ed1e3cd]; can we add this source to the article? [[User:JacktheBrown|JacktheBrown]] ([[User talk:JacktheBrown|talk]]) 08:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
-The picture of the Estates General was removed with the comment "there is nothing specifically left-wing about that picture, which is not included in the article for right-wing politics either)". The name "left wing originated in the Estates General and it is mentioned in the first paragraph of the article. I have no problem with the picture also appearing in the article on right-wing politics. Why the picture needs to be removed is not clear to me. [[User:Rick Norwood|Rick Norwood]] ([[User talk:Rick Norwood|talk]]) 10:41, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
+:No. From [[WP:RSNP]] "Medium is a blog hosting service. As a self-published source, it is considered generally unreliable and should be avoided unless the author is a subject-matter expert or the blog is used for uncontroversial self-descriptions. Medium should never be used as a secondary source for living persons. A 2022 RfC also found that Cuepoint, Medium's music publication, is marginally reliable, with editors stating that its reliability depends on the qualification of the author." [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 09:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
-:That image does not belong here, nor is it specifically representative of right-wing politics. But I incorporated it into the article on the [[Political_spectrum#Historical_origin_of_the_terms|political spectrum]], where it is relevant. [[User:Trakking|Trakking]] ([[User talk:Trakking|talk]]) 10:53, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
-::We have reached a compromise: I incorporated the image into the "History" section of the article in question. There it belongs perfectly. [[User:Trakking|Trakking]] ([[User talk:Trakking|talk]]) 10:58, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
-:::I think that is a good choice. The deputies of the estates general arranged themselves from left to right by ideology, and this has been copied in European legislatures to this day. But the term left-wing only came into usage in the early 1900s, by which time the successors to the original left were considered centrist or right-wing. Today's left, even if one includes social liberalism, did not exist in 1789. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 01:23, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
+== Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2024 ==
-== ""claim that human development flourishes when individuals engage in cooperative, mutually respectful relations that can thrive only when excessive differences in status, power, and wealth are eliminated." ==
+{{edit semi-protected|Left-wing politics|answered=yes}}
-Pretty crazy that this is not a leftist statement. The idea that human flourshing is measured in "development" is the issue: "development" is itself a capitalistic idea, and not leftist.
+Change the recommended "..., Marxism and Keynesianism, ..." under Economics to "..., Marxism, Keynesianism, ..." [[User:Anton Siligan|Anton Siligan]] ([[User talk:Anton Siligan|talk]]) 10:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
+:The link behind "Marxism and Keynesianism" leads to an article about a comparison between the two, so instead of separating with a comma, I'll use the complete article title ("[[Comparison of Marxian and Keynesian economics]]") for clarity. [[User:ObserveOwl|<span style="color: darkgreen;">Observe</span><span style="color: maroon;">Owl</span>&nbsp;🎄]]&nbsp;([[User talk:ObserveOwl#top|talk]]) 17:06, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
-Describing leftism by the language of not-leftists is no good. Imagine describing why it's good to eat sugar from the perspetive of someone who hates sugar - that's just silly yeah? [[User:CrickedBack|CrickedBack]] ([[User talk:CrickedBack|talk]]) 14:45, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
+::@[[User:ObserveOwl|ObserveOwl]] I wouldn't say that the comparison is as relevant as the two individual pages. Do you agree?
-:Please see our page at [[WP:NOTFORUM]]. You are stating personal views that are not supported by most [[WP:RS|credible published discussions]] of this issue. Please provide links to published mainstream sources that support your concern.[[User:SPECIFICO |<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 14:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
+::Happy new year! [[User:Anton Siligan|Anton Siligan]] ([[User talk:Anton Siligan|talk]]) 17:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
+:::{{yo| Anton Siligan}} [[Keynesian economics]] is already linked at "{{tq|Left-leaning economic beliefs range from [[Keynesian]] economics...}}", and [[Marxian economics]] is linked at "{{tq|Other leftists believe in [[Marxian economics]]}}". Those two links would probably be redundant if they were also inserted onto the "see also" hatnote. On the other hand, the comparison article doesn't seem to be linked outside that hatnote. [[User:ObserveOwl|ObserveOwl]]&nbsp;([[User talk:ObserveOwl#top|talk]]) 17:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
-== Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2024 ==
+:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> - thank you and merry Christmas! [[User:ObserveOwl|<span style="color: darkgreen;">Observe</span><span style="color: maroon;">Owl</span>&nbsp;🎄]]&nbsp;([[User talk:ObserveOwl#top|talk]]) 17:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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