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== Hungary's Editors' Choice Top 40 chart == |
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This chart is listed among the deprecated charts stating that "this is a critic's list, not a reflection of sales or airplay". I think whoever wrote this possibly only assumed it from the chart's name and didn't take the time to look into it properly, or got the wrong information from somewhere. I'm from Hungary and this chart in fact was always an airplay chart and it was never a critic's list. At the bottom of this page (https://slagerlistak.hu/editors-choice-top-40-slagerlista) there is an explanation in Hungarian about how this airplay chart works and what's the difference between the "Rádiós Top 40" airplay chart and this one. "Rádiós Top 40" is based on audience impression, so the bigger a radio station the bigger the influence it has on the chart. The "Editors' Choice Top 40" airplay chart measures spins from all the stations without taking into consideration the reach of the radio stations. It is similar how in the USA there's Radio Songs chart with audience impression stats and the Pop Airplay chart with spins only. I would like to suggest that this chart should be eligible to use, but only when a song couldn't enter the "Rádiós Top 40" chart, as I believe that should be considered as the main one. What are your thoughts about this? Thanks for taking the time reading my suggestion [[User:Kirtap92|Kirtap92]] ([[User talk:Kirtap92|talk]]) 09:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Kirtap92}} Thanks for the information. Seeing that that's the case, I agree with you that this is indeed a reliable chart and can be used as long as the songs didn't enter the "Rádiós Top 40" already. Let's see if anyone else wants to comment on this. [[User:FanDePopLatino|FanDePopLatino]] ([[User talk:FanDePopLatino|talk]]) 22:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|Kirtap92}} I agree with these points and support your suggestion. [[User:Sricsi|Sricsi]] ([[User talk:Sricsi|talk]]) 23:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Italy Airplay (EarOne) == |
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Is [https://earone.com/charts/earone-airplay-stranieri/2024/41 this chart] considered an official one? It is currently included in a bunch of articles like [[I'm His, He's Mine]], [[Si Antes Te Hubiera Conocido]], and [[Feels Like I'm Falling in Love]]. I haven't been able to find a GA where it has been used yet. ''[[User:MaranoFan|<b style="color:purple">N</b>]][[User talk:MaranoFan|<b style="color:teal">Ø</b>]]'' 23:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:Quoting myself from a previous discussion, yes, it is considered official and reliable by a variety of RS, eg. ''[[Corriere della Sera]]'' [https://video.corriere.it/elodie-singolo-estate-tribale-primo-posto-classifica-earone/ac03dc96-1ea2-11ed-92ac-ee7067074578], ''[[La Repubblica]]'' [https://www.repubblica.it/spettacoli/musica/2014/01/07/news/robin_thicke-75312083/], ''[[La Stampa]]'' [https://www.lastampa.it/spettacoli/musica/2021/03/12/news/effetto-musica-leggerissima-colapesce-e-dimartino-conquistano-radio-e-classifiche-1.40016929/] or ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' [https://www.rollingstone.it/musica/storie-musica/la-carriera-di-mahmood-ora-brilla-come-una-tuta-gold/866847/]. Never found any articles/sources questioning its reliability. An assortment of citations from just the last few days: ''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]'' [https://billboard.it/news/cesare-cremonini-radio/2024/10/18171828/], ''[[Il Resto del Carlino]]'' [https://www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/bologna/cultura/cremonini-stadi-sold-out-v1z3pzcc], ''[[Sky TG24]]'' [https://tg24.sky.it/spettacolo/musica/2024/10/14/virgino-amarene], [[Radio Italia Solo Musica Italiana|Radio Italia]] [https://www.radioitalia.it/news/achille-lauro-amore-disperato-e-il-brano-piu-trasmesso-in-radio-619366], [[Fanpage.it]] [https://www.fanpage.it/cultura/rossetto-e-caffe-e-stata-certificata-disco-di-platino-fimi-la-rinascita-di-sal-da-vinci/], ''[[Tuttosport]]'' [https://www.tuttosport.com/news/notizia-ultima-ora/2024/10/18-134235784/cremonini_scala_le_classifiche_il_singolo_piu_suonato_in_radio], [[Rockol]] [https://musicbiz.rockol.it/news-747327/classifiche-airplay-novita-10-ottobre-achille-lauro], [[:it:Affaritaliani.it|Affaritaliani]] [https://www.affaritaliani.it/mediatech/fred-de-palma-e-rose-villain-un-coctkail-elettrizzante-con-mmh-940819.html], [[Radio Dimensione Suono]] [https://www.rds.it/scopri/magazine/musica/achille-lauro-e-il-racconto-reale-di-un-amore-disperato-e-fuori-il-nuovo-brano] and others (eg. [https://www.allmusicitalia.it/classifiche/radio-charts/classifica-radio-earone-settimana-42-cremonini-si-prende-la-1-ghali-debutta-in-top-10.html] or [https://recensiamomusica.com/classifica-earone-2024-settimana-42-in-vetta-sale-cesare-cremonini/]). [[User:Cavarrone|'''C'''avarrone]] 20:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Indonesian music chart == |
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So, Indonesia, from its own Recording Industry Association ([[Asosiasi Industri Rekaman Indonesia|ASIRI]]), actually had their own weekly-updated music chart since 2023. They had ASIRI Top 50 Mixed Chart for all genres and Top 10 Indonesian Chart for the domestic releases. The charts were formulated by BMAT Music Innovators, just like [[The Official South African Charts]] and [[Indian Music Industry]]'s [[IMI International Top 20 Singles]]. They only posted them on their [https://www.instagram.com/asiri_indonesia/ Instagram page] and [https://www.facebook.com/asiri.indonesia Facebook page] though, just like Malaysian's RIM Chart did. Can we start using this as official source? [[User:Byy2|Byy2]] ([[User talk:Byy2|talk]]) 17:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC) |
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All of the archives for Canada Digital Song Sales, Canada AC, Canada Hot AC, CHR/Top 40, and All-Format Airplay have been seemingly wiped from the ''Billboard'' website and no longer appear in artist chart histories. This is why it was important to have archived these URLs, especially for Canada Digital Song Sales as that also contained the 1996–2006 Nielsen SoundScan charts for Canada. [[User:Heartfox|Heartfox]] ([[User talk:Heartfox|talk]]) 07:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:I noticed this too, I thought I was going crazy or something. It's like that for the Canada Rock songs charts too. Perhaps they are just under maintenance and updating the systems, to wipe the old system and implement a new one? The charts are set to update tonight locally, so maybe they might go back online then. If not, we might have a bigger issue on our hands here. [[User:Rockmusicfanatic20|Rockmusicfanatic20]] ([[User talk:Rockmusicfanatic20|talk]]) 18:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::Ten days later, and there has been no notice from Billboard as to what is going on with the Canadian airplay charts or digital song sales. I am wondering if we should switch to using Pollstar (which posts [[Mediabase]] charts) for Canadian airplay. Otherwise, we will end up with little or no Canadian music charts outside of the Canadian Hot 100. [[User:Yeehaw45|Yeehaw45]] ([[User talk:Yeehaw45|talk]]) 18:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Support using Mediabase via Pollstar. Just need to format it as "Canada Country ([[Mediabase]])", etc. I tried archviving the URL on Archive.org but it doesn't load, seems it only works for archive.today. [https://archive.today/KQCJn Example]. [[User:Heartfox|Heartfox]] ([[User talk:Heartfox|talk]]) 19:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Yes, important to format it that way. Good catch with the archiving. I'll begin to use archive.today for these charts. -[[User:Yeehaw45|Yeehaw45]] ([[User talk:Yeehaw45|talk]]) 19:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Pollstar also has a license to publish Mediabase charts. [https://www2.mediabase.com/mbapp/About Per Mediabase website], The charts are "Published weekly in Pollstar..." [[User:Heartfox|Heartfox]] ([[User talk:Heartfox|talk]]) 19:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Yangaroo Canada charts == |
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I'm not sure if any users are familiar with [[Yangaroo]] — I came across their website and noticed they publish weekly charts in Canada for songs under three categories: Top Downloads, Top CanCon Downloads and Most Active Indies. All categories have only 10 positions. |
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''Billboard Canada'' also publishes Yangaroo's weekly results stating: ''The following are tracks delivered to radio by digital distributor Yangaroo in Canada and broken down into three categories. Top Downloads and Top Canadian Downloads represent the most copied tracks. Most Active Indies blends downloads and streams, with the affiliated label and radio promotions company in parentheses.'' Yangaroo's website states: ''Top Downloads are the most downloaded singles on DMDS during the given period. Top CanCon Downloads are the most downloaded singles on DMDS marked by the sender as Canadian Content during the given period. Most Active indies are the most streamed and downloaded singles on DMDS during the given period on releases not directly promoted to radio by any of the major record companies.'' |
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Would this be an okay chart to include? I've already added it to several pages but if it's considered a bad chart I will remove them. [[User:Pillowdelight|Pillowdelight]] ([[User talk:Pillowdelight|talk]]) 08:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:No, this is downloads by radio stations of tracks to play on air. It's not a ranking of public consumption. [[User:Heartfox|Heartfox]] ([[User talk:Heartfox|talk]]) 17:55, 1 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Why are radio monitor charts unacceptable…. [[User:Zacharythoden|Zacharythoden]] ([[User talk:Zacharythoden|talk]]) 23:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Looks like we included [[K-pop Hot 100]], but when the chart was discontinued and migrated to [[South Korea Songs]], we stopped using it. Why is that? [[User:RachelTensions|RachelTensions]] ([[User talk:RachelTensions|talk]]) 16:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:We still do but limited, maybe see [[Wikipedia talk:Record charts/Archive 19#About Billboard's Hits of the World charts|this discussion]] on Billboard's [[Hits of the World]] that South Korea Songs is part of. '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 17:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Radioscope New Zealand certifications == |
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Hi everyone I wanted to share with you guys [https://billboard.com.pe/hot100artistasperuanos/ this link] for Billboard Perú. In there you can find Hot 100 charts for both Peruvian artists and a combined Hot 100 as well. The top 10 are available for the public but subscribers can view the full list. [[User:FanDePopLatino|FanDePopLatino]] ([[User talk:FanDePopLatino|talk]]) 03:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC) |
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There appears to be a database with updated RMNZ certifications for [https://www.radioscope.co.nz/2024/04/06/single-cert-search/ singles] and [https://www.radioscope.co.nz/2024/00/00/album-cert-search/ albums]. These certifications correspond to those appearing on the [[Official Aotearoa Music Charts]] website. Should these be treated as official certifications on Wikipedia? [[User:Everm4e|Everm4e]] ([[User talk:Everm4e|talk]]) 14:38, 14 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Dutch Top 40 Tipparade == |
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:Yes, I believe these should be treated as official certifications. The database of RMNZ certifications is hosted on the Radioscope website. According to the [[Official Aotearoa Music Charts]] website, Radioscope is an official partner of Recorded Music NZ used by them to collect radio airplay data.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://aotearoamusiccharts.co.nz/about|title=About the Chart|access-date=16 December 2024}}</ref> Radioscope also previously used to publish all of the Official New Zealand Music Charts on their website, before they were spun off into their own website.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.radioscope.net.nz/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=3&Itemid=32 |title=Charts - RadioScope New Zealand |work=radioscope.net.nz |access-date=28 August 2011 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090526232524/http://www.radioscope.net.nz/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=3&Itemid=32 |archive-date=May 26, 2009 }}</ref> [[User:Flabshoe1|Flabshoe1]] ([[User talk:Flabshoe1|talk]]) 17:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) [[User:Flabshoe1|Flabshoe1]] ([[User talk:Flabshoe1|talk]]) 17:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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As somebody who regularly adds this chart (essentially the "bubbling under" of the [[Dutch Top 40]]), I must admit I wasn't aware until today that [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=We_Can%27t_Be_Friends_(Wait_for_Your_Love)&diff=prev&oldid=1212418039 songs can "chart" before their release, as this IP editor pointed out]. I'm not sure how this was even possible—do they count pre-release radio adds for chart placement? Trending "hype"? At the time the chart was published, Grande's song hadn't been officially released anywhere in the world yet, but it was already on the Tipparade. I feel like this is similar to how there was a consensus (now listed at [[WP:BADCHARTS]]) for the now-defunct ''Rolling Stone'' Top 200 Albums chart that we should not use it because it would start listing albums as "charting" months before their release (e.g. Sam Smith's ''Gloria'') because the singles from those albums were being counted towards the overall album. What do editors here think? <b>[[User:Ss112|<span style="color: #FF6347;">Ss</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Ss112|<span style="color: #1E90FF;">112</span>]]</small></b> 11:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:The Dutch Top 40 does include airplay data, so it makes sense that songs can chart before their official release. The first CD of Counting Crows' "[[Holiday in Spain (song)|Holiday in Spain]]" was released on 28 May 2004, but it first appeared on the Tipparade chart on [https://www.top40.nl/tipparade/2004/week-20 15 May]. Download data hadn't been included yet, so airplay is the only explanation of why it charted before its release. I also don't see a difference between airplay and "trending hype". This kind of thing happens all the time, but it doesn't necessarily mean the chart is bad. [[User:ResolutionsPerMinute|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:royalblue">'''ResPM'''</span>]] ([[User talk:ResolutionsPerMinute|T🔈]][[Special:Contributions/ResolutionsPerMinute|🎵C]]) 12:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{re|ResolutionsPerMinute}} I'm saying that because I don't believe the song was being played on radio or debuted on Dutch radio before it and the rest of Grande's ''Eternal Sunshine'' album was released at midnight US time. As far as I'm aware there was a strict embargo on the public hearing or being able to stream those songs before it was 12:00 midnight in the US and that equivalent time across the world. That's why I'm casting doubt on the validity of the chart, because somehow it was already charting before the public had heard it. I'm not saying airplay is not valid—obviously the Counting Crows example you're pointing to had different release dates around the world as physical media and airplay can have totally different release dates and in different countries, but I don't believe that to be the case here because AFAIK it was not heard by the public before midnight US time. (Also, the date of the chart in the top-right corner—9 March—is not the actual date it is published, as the chart had already been published by 8 March hence the time of my original post. The Wayback Machine, based in America, had already archived the page before midnight 8 March [https://web.archive.org/web/20240307194710/https://www.top40.nl/tipparade/2024/week-10].) <b>[[User:Ss112|<span style="color: #FF6347;">Ss</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Ss112|<span style="color: #1E90FF;">112</span>]]</small></b> 06:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Then the only other thing I can think of is that the song was leaked, embargo or not. Something similar happened with Oasis in 1997, when radio stations aired a new single before the label told them to ([https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-Week/1997/Music-Week-1997-07-05.pdf]). At the risk of starting a scandal, this is probably what happened. [[User:ResolutionsPerMinute|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:royalblue">'''ResPM'''</span>]] ([[User talk:ResolutionsPerMinute|T🔈]][[Special:Contributions/ResolutionsPerMinute|🎵C]]) 11:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Deprecate Dutch Top 40 after December 31, 2014'''. According to [https://www.top40.nl/samenstelling their website], the charts factor in "trends in social media". If points are low, songs can apparently chart on social media hype alone as evinced by "We Can't Be Friends". This makes the chart positions incomparable with every other chart in a table, which would mislead readers. Songs charting based on hype and not consumption makes no sense. There already is the Single Top 100, compiled by GfK, which I would support considering as the official chart for the Netherlands from 2015–present. |
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There has been [[Wikipedia talk:Record charts/Archive 19#China sales| discussion in 2022]] about the China TME UNI Chart, the concern about it was [[Wikipedia:SINGLEVENDOR]] at that time. Since then, the chart has added sources from other vendors as well, making it more suitable for inclusion: |
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:Chart formula page as of [https://web.archive.org/web/20141120133608/http://www.top40.nl/samenstelling November 20, 2014]: no mention of "trends in social media". As of [https://web.archive.org/web/20150209012815/http://www.top40.nl/samenstelling February 9, 2015]: "trends in social media" is a factor. [[User:Heartfox|Heartfox]] ([[User talk:Heartfox|talk]]) 05:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::Well, that settles that. '''Deprecate after December 31, 2014'''. [[User:ResolutionsPerMinute|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:royalblue">'''ResPM'''</span>]] ([[User talk:ResolutionsPerMinute|T🔈]][[Special:Contributions/ResolutionsPerMinute|🎵C]]) 10:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{re|Heartfox}} While I am the one who started the thread, I think we need broader consensus to deprecate the use of the ''entirety'' of the Dutch Top 40 from Wikipedia. I agree the integration of social media trends makes it questionable, but that's not its sole metric (especially now that the song has been out for several weeks), the chart has a long history (I've even come across users on here from the Netherlands who consider it the "official" singles chart there), and so I don't agree with making [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=We_Can%27t_Be_Friends_(Wait_for_Your_Love)&diff=prev&oldid=1214560258 pre-emptive removals], even though the song has now charted on the actual Dutch Top 40. <b>[[User:Ss112|<span style="color: #FF6347;">Ss</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Ss112|<span style="color: #1E90FF;">112</span>]]</small></b> 17:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::At least deprecate the Tipparade from 2015. [[User:Heartfox|Heartfox]] ([[User talk:Heartfox|talk]]) 01:07, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I definitely believe we should not list chart rankings for unreleased songs that appear on the Tipparade chart per the above (and there would seem to be a rough consensus for this, at least), but songs on the upper ranks of the Tipparade chart seem like they're just bubbling under as they've been out for weeks, sometimes months. The latest example of the former: Taylor Swift's song with Post Malone that hasn't been officially released yet is charting [https://www.top40.nl/tipparade/2024/week-16 on the latest chart]. <b>[[User:Ss112|<span style="color: #FF6347;">Ss</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Ss112|<span style="color: #1E90FF;">112</span>]]</small></b> 17:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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1. It is published by a recognized reliable source. The chart is published both at [https://yobang.tencentmusic.com/chart/uni-chart/rankList/?issue=202449 the TME website] and [https://www.billboard.com/charts/china-tme-uni-songs/ the Billboard website]. |
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2. It covers sales or broadcast outlets from multiple sources. According to [https://www.billboard.com/charts/china-tme-uni-songs/ the Billboard website] ( mouse at the i logo on the page) and other news reports, the chart covers following sources: |
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Is this chart considered as a bad chart??? I saw this chart on [[Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran]] chart section. Here’s the link https://www.5music.com.tw/billboard.asp?top=6 [[User:ShakiraFandom|ShakiraFandom]] ([[User talk:ShakiraFandom|talk]]) 17:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
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*(QQ Music, Kugou Music, Kuwo Music, WeSing, Tencent Video) from [[Tencent]] |
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:What is Five Music? It looks like a record store to me, in which case it would fail [[WP:SINGLEVENDOR]] because it is only recording the sales in its own stores. But I know in East Asia conglomerates like this can cover much more than just selling records. [[User:Richard3120|Richard3120]] ([[User talk:Richard3120|talk]]) 18:12, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
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*[[Weibo]] music from [[Sina Corporation]][https://m.huanqiu.com/article/9CaKrnKliPw 1] |
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*as well as national radio stations (more than 100 radio stations, belongs to different vendors in many cities of China [https://d.youth.cn/newtech/202103/t20210325_12800076.htm 2]) |
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3. It is static, that is, the data in the chart cannot change. |
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Could this chart be added to the list now? [[User:生米一粒|生米一粒]] ([[User talk:生米一粒|talk]]) 23:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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There's a discussion ongoing at [[Tyla (South African singer)#Singles]] with regards to the use of Billboard's Hits of the World "South Africa Songs" chart instead of [[The Official South African Charts]], the nationally recognized chart of South Africa. From what I read in previous discussions, I understood that Billboard HOTW charts should only be used when the song/artist hasn't charted on the official national chart. Which is not the case here. [https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/south-africa-music-charts-streaming-9624907/ Billboard themself have even recognized TOSAC as the official chart of South Africa]. I am from South Africa and the media here always refer to the TOSAC Streaming Chart and not Billboard's South Africa Songs. I would like to obtain a clear consensus regarding this so we can have a guideline going forward for South Africa on [[WP:CHARTS]]. '''''[[User:Coolmarc|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#1CA9C9;font-family:Segoe Script">Cool Marc</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Coolmarc#top|<big><span style="font-size:85%;color:#1CA9C9;">✉</span></big>]]</small>''''' 10:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Hungary's Editors' Choice Top 40 chart
[edit]This chart is listed among the deprecated charts stating that "this is a critic's list, not a reflection of sales or airplay". I think whoever wrote this possibly only assumed it from the chart's name and didn't take the time to look into it properly, or got the wrong information from somewhere. I'm from Hungary and this chart in fact was always an airplay chart and it was never a critic's list. At the bottom of this page (https://slagerlistak.hu/editors-choice-top-40-slagerlista) there is an explanation in Hungarian about how this airplay chart works and what's the difference between the "Rádiós Top 40" airplay chart and this one. "Rádiós Top 40" is based on audience impression, so the bigger a radio station the bigger the influence it has on the chart. The "Editors' Choice Top 40" airplay chart measures spins from all the stations without taking into consideration the reach of the radio stations. It is similar how in the USA there's Radio Songs chart with audience impression stats and the Pop Airplay chart with spins only. I would like to suggest that this chart should be eligible to use, but only when a song couldn't enter the "Rádiós Top 40" chart, as I believe that should be considered as the main one. What are your thoughts about this? Thanks for taking the time reading my suggestion Kirtap92 (talk) 09:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Kirtap92: Thanks for the information. Seeing that that's the case, I agree with you that this is indeed a reliable chart and can be used as long as the songs didn't enter the "Rádiós Top 40" already. Let's see if anyone else wants to comment on this. FanDePopLatino (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Kirtap92: I agree with these points and support your suggestion. Sricsi (talk) 23:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
Italy Airplay (EarOne)
[edit]Is this chart considered an official one? It is currently included in a bunch of articles like I'm His, He's Mine, Si Antes Te Hubiera Conocido, and Feels Like I'm Falling in Love. I haven't been able to find a GA where it has been used yet. NØ 23:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Quoting myself from a previous discussion, yes, it is considered official and reliable by a variety of RS, eg. Corriere della Sera [1], La Repubblica [2], La Stampa [3] or Rolling Stone [4]. Never found any articles/sources questioning its reliability. An assortment of citations from just the last few days: Billboard [5], Il Resto del Carlino [6], Sky TG24 [7], Radio Italia [8], Fanpage.it [9], Tuttosport [10], Rockol [11], Affaritaliani [12], Radio Dimensione Suono [13] and others (eg. [14] or [15]). Cavarrone 20:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Indonesian music chart
[edit]So, Indonesia, from its own Recording Industry Association (ASIRI), actually had their own weekly-updated music chart since 2023. They had ASIRI Top 50 Mixed Chart for all genres and Top 10 Indonesian Chart for the domestic releases. The charts were formulated by BMAT Music Innovators, just like The Official South African Charts and Indian Music Industry's IMI International Top 20 Singles. They only posted them on their Instagram page and Facebook page though, just like Malaysian's RIM Chart did. Can we start using this as official source? Byy2 (talk) 17:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Billboard Canada charts
[edit]All of the archives for Canada Digital Song Sales, Canada AC, Canada Hot AC, CHR/Top 40, and All-Format Airplay have been seemingly wiped from the Billboard website and no longer appear in artist chart histories. This is why it was important to have archived these URLs, especially for Canada Digital Song Sales as that also contained the 1996–2006 Nielsen SoundScan charts for Canada. Heartfox (talk) 07:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- I noticed this too, I thought I was going crazy or something. It's like that for the Canada Rock songs charts too. Perhaps they are just under maintenance and updating the systems, to wipe the old system and implement a new one? The charts are set to update tonight locally, so maybe they might go back online then. If not, we might have a bigger issue on our hands here. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 18:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ten days later, and there has been no notice from Billboard as to what is going on with the Canadian airplay charts or digital song sales. I am wondering if we should switch to using Pollstar (which posts Mediabase charts) for Canadian airplay. Otherwise, we will end up with little or no Canadian music charts outside of the Canadian Hot 100. Yeehaw45 (talk) 18:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support using Mediabase via Pollstar. Just need to format it as "Canada Country (Mediabase)", etc. I tried archviving the URL on Archive.org but it doesn't load, seems it only works for archive.today. Example. Heartfox (talk) 19:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, important to format it that way. Good catch with the archiving. I'll begin to use archive.today for these charts. -Yeehaw45 (talk) 19:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Pollstar also has a license to publish Mediabase charts. Per Mediabase website, The charts are "Published weekly in Pollstar..." Heartfox (talk) 19:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support using Mediabase via Pollstar. Just need to format it as "Canada Country (Mediabase)", etc. I tried archviving the URL on Archive.org but it doesn't load, seems it only works for archive.today. Example. Heartfox (talk) 19:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ten days later, and there has been no notice from Billboard as to what is going on with the Canadian airplay charts or digital song sales. I am wondering if we should switch to using Pollstar (which posts Mediabase charts) for Canadian airplay. Otherwise, we will end up with little or no Canadian music charts outside of the Canadian Hot 100. Yeehaw45 (talk) 18:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Yangaroo Canada charts
[edit]I'm not sure if any users are familiar with Yangaroo — I came across their website and noticed they publish weekly charts in Canada for songs under three categories: Top Downloads, Top CanCon Downloads and Most Active Indies. All categories have only 10 positions.
Billboard Canada also publishes Yangaroo's weekly results stating: The following are tracks delivered to radio by digital distributor Yangaroo in Canada and broken down into three categories. Top Downloads and Top Canadian Downloads represent the most copied tracks. Most Active Indies blends downloads and streams, with the affiliated label and radio promotions company in parentheses. Yangaroo's website states: Top Downloads are the most downloaded singles on DMDS during the given period. Top CanCon Downloads are the most downloaded singles on DMDS marked by the sender as Canadian Content during the given period. Most Active indies are the most streamed and downloaded singles on DMDS during the given period on releases not directly promoted to radio by any of the major record companies.
Would this be an okay chart to include? I've already added it to several pages but if it's considered a bad chart I will remove them. Pillowdelight (talk) 08:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- No, this is downloads by radio stations of tracks to play on air. It's not a ranking of public consumption. Heartfox (talk) 17:55, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Why are radio monitor charts unacceptable…. Zacharythoden (talk) 23:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
South Korea Songs
[edit]Looks like we included K-pop Hot 100, but when the chart was discontinued and migrated to South Korea Songs, we stopped using it. Why is that? RachelTensions (talk) 16:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- We still do but limited, maybe see this discussion on Billboard's Hits of the World that South Korea Songs is part of. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 17:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Radioscope New Zealand certifications
[edit]There appears to be a database with updated RMNZ certifications for singles and albums. These certifications correspond to those appearing on the Official Aotearoa Music Charts website. Should these be treated as official certifications on Wikipedia? Everm4e (talk) 14:38, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I believe these should be treated as official certifications. The database of RMNZ certifications is hosted on the Radioscope website. According to the Official Aotearoa Music Charts website, Radioscope is an official partner of Recorded Music NZ used by them to collect radio airplay data.[1] Radioscope also previously used to publish all of the Official New Zealand Music Charts on their website, before they were spun off into their own website.[2] Flabshoe1 (talk) 17:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC) Flabshoe1 (talk) 17:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
China TME UNI Chart
[edit]There has been discussion in 2022 about the China TME UNI Chart, the concern about it was Wikipedia:SINGLEVENDOR at that time. Since then, the chart has added sources from other vendors as well, making it more suitable for inclusion:
1. It is published by a recognized reliable source. The chart is published both at the TME website and the Billboard website.
2. It covers sales or broadcast outlets from multiple sources. According to the Billboard website ( mouse at the i logo on the page) and other news reports, the chart covers following sources:
- (QQ Music, Kugou Music, Kuwo Music, WeSing, Tencent Video) from Tencent
- Weibo music from Sina Corporation1
- as well as national radio stations (more than 100 radio stations, belongs to different vendors in many cities of China 2)
3. It is static, that is, the data in the chart cannot change.
Could this chart be added to the list now? 生米一粒 (talk) 23:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- ^ "About the Chart". Retrieved 16 December 2024.
- ^ "Charts - RadioScope New Zealand". radioscope.net.nz. Archived from the original on May 26, 2009. Retrieved 28 August 2011.