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Population increase in 1920

What happened between 1910 and 1920 that made Pittsburg's population double (from 624 to 1311), only to return to its previous level by 1930? ABehrens (talk) 20:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good question; I don't know. Might be worth an email to the town's historic society -- pittsburghistoricalsocietynh@gmail.com (I wouldn't update the article based on an email, but it could make finding a relevant reliable source much easier). Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at the historic Census publications and found an answer. The 1920 figure in this article was the number posted in the 1930 census,^[1] as the Census Bureau at the time had a practice of including the total populations from the two previous decades in their reports. If you go to the explicit 1920 census publication, the number is 887.^[2] The 1930 census has a footnote for their 1920 figure, saying the numbers "include population (424) of parts of town returned as Colebrook Academy grant, Hubbard township, and Webster township,"^[1] which is the exact difference. I have no idea where those extra grants and townships are located, but we can just use the number directly from the 1920 census. I'll make the change. Thanks for noticing that! Ken Gallager (talk) 12:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, see Defunct placenames of New Hampshire. All three of those places are listed in there and are described as being now part of Pittsburg. Sounds like the 1930 census corrected the 1920 figure. So ignore my previous post! The town historical society might be able to confirm my guess that the population spike has to do with the logging industry. Ken Gallager (talk) 12:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b "Fifteenth Census of the United States: 1930: Population. Volume 1: Number and Distribution of Inhabitants, page 704" (PDF). U.S. Census Bureau. Retrieved June 10, 2024.
^ "Fourteenth Census of the United States Taken in the Year 1920: Population. Number and Distribution of Inhabitants, page 521" (PDF). U.S. Census Bureau. Retrieved June 10, 2024.

[1930_census-1] "Fifteenth Census of the United States: 1930: Population. Volume 1: Number and Distribution of Inhabitants, page 704" (PDF). U.S. Census Bureau. Retrieved June 10, 2024.

[2] "Fourteenth Census of the United States Taken in the Year 1920: Population. Number and Distribution of Inhabitants, page 521" (PDF). U.S. Census Bureau. Retrieved June 10, 2024.

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 == Population increase in 1920 ==
 What happened between 1910 and 1920 that made Pittsburg's population double (from 624 to 1311), only to return to its previous level by 1930? [[User:ABehrens|ABehrens]] ([[User talk:ABehrens|talk]]) 20:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
+: Good question; I don't know. Might be worth an email to the town's historic society -- pittsburghistoricalsocietynh@gmail.com (I wouldn't update the article based on an email, but it could make finding a relevant reliable source much easier). [[User:Dmoore5556|Dmoore5556]] ([[User talk:Dmoore5556|talk]]) 02:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
+::I took a look at the historic Census publications and found an answer. The 1920 figure in this article was the number posted in the 1930 census,<ref name="1930 census">{{Cite web| url=https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1930/population-volume-1/03815512v1ch07.pdf| title=Fifteenth Census of the United States: 1930: Population. Volume 1: Number and Distribution of Inhabitants, page 704| publisher=U.S. Census Bureau| access-date=June 10, 2024}}</ref> as the Census Bureau at the time had a practice of including the total populations from the two previous decades in their reports. If you go to the explicit 1920 census publication, the number is 887.<ref>{{Cite web| url=https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1920/volume-1/41084484v1ch4.pdf| title=Fourteenth Census of the United States Taken in the Year 1920: Population. Number and Distribution of Inhabitants, page 521. |publisher=U.S. Census Bureau| access-date=June 10, 2024}}</ref> The 1930 census has a footnote for their 1920 figure, saying the numbers "include population (424) of parts of town returned as Colebrook Academy grant, Hubbard township, and Webster township,"<ref name="1930 census"/> which is the exact difference. I have no idea where those extra grants and townships are located, but we can just use the number directly from the 1920 census. I'll make the change. Thanks for noticing that! [[User:Ken Gallager|Ken Gallager]] ([[User talk:Ken Gallager|talk]]) 12:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
+:::On the other hand, see [[Defunct placenames of New Hampshire]]. All three of those places are listed in there and are described as being now part of Pittsburg. Sounds like the 1930 census corrected the 1920 figure. So ignore my previous post! The town historical society might be able to confirm my guess that the population spike has to do with the logging industry. [[User:Ken Gallager|Ken Gallager]] ([[User talk:Ken Gallager|talk]]) 12:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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