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Are we sure the program ended in 1984? Because I had to go through this program-- it's one of the reasons I have trouble with addition :-) -- and I didn't start school until the late eighties. Could we have a citation for this?[[User:Anonymoustom|Anonymoustom]] 05:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
Are we sure the program ended in 1984? Because I had to go through this program-- it's one of the reasons I have trouble with addition :-) -- and I didn't start school until the late eighties. Could we have a citation for this?[[User:Anonymoustom|Anonymoustom]] 05:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::No I'm not really sure. The evaluation reports all end in 1984 I can't find any dates after that. I'll see if I can find out. --[[User:Salix alba|Salix alba]] ([[User talk:Salix alba|talk]]) 07:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
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== Email from CSMP archive maintainer == |
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Below is an email I've receive from the maintainer of the archive. It clarrifies a few things |
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Rich,<br> |
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Thank you for doing this. 1984 was the final version started at (Central Eastern Midwestern Regional Laboratory ) CEMREL. The Project was bought out around 1984 by McREL (Mid-continental Research for Education and Learning) and supported until 2003. This revision of the final project called: CSMP/21 took place from 1992 - 1997. One goal of this revision was to make the program more cost effective. |
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See any of the introductions from Primary and Intermediate. |
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http://ceure.buffalostate.edu/~csmp/CSMP%20Program/Primary%20Disk/KINDERGARDEN/kStand.pdf |
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http://ceure.buffalostate.edu/~csmp/CSMP%20Program/Intermediate%20Disk/IG_VI/IG-VI%20Lesson%20Plans/IGVI_INTRO.PDF |
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Many people were involved , the original director was Burt Kaufman which started in 1963, Clare Heidema headed the project from 1979 to 2003. The start of the K-6 program was 1972. |
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Reports after 1984 are on the website. |
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This would be a good one to look at: |
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http://ceure.buffalostate.edu/~csmp/Evaluation/ReporttotheProgramEffectivenessPanel.pdf |
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One thing I object to is the referral to the "Mountain Math" and the Fantasy. Mountain math was a collection of extensions of some of the activities, I got its name because McREL is in Denver at the base of the Rocky Mountains. Its role was dissemination of the program. The other was the use of fantasy to create problem-solving situations for young children which is referred to as Eli the Elephant in the description. These were used not solely to be amusing but rather to create a problem situation that the children could understand. THe focus of the entire program was to teach mathematics as a problem solving activity. |
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Thanks and let me know if I can give you any more information. |
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Warmly, |
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Tom |
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</blockquote> <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Salix alba|Salix alba]] ([[User talk:Salix alba|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Salix alba|contribs]]) 20:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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== Adding CSMP-related images == |
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As I am not very familiar with copyright guidelines, what images are fair use? I would like to include drawings of the mini-computer, checkers, and possibly arrows and strings in this article. Perhaps even pictures of my old materials if I can find them in my closet. Are there copyright restrictions on any of these? |
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And it may be a little late for this, but I was taught CSMP in grade school from around 1992-1995. |
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[[User:Taren Nauxen|Taren Nauxen]] 06:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:I guess that everything published by the CSMP would be covered under standard copyright. For the most part it would prevent us from including them here, however it may be possible to apply a [[Wikipedia:Non-free content|fair use rational]] for why these should appear here. It would probably be simplier to produce your own image of a mini-computer which would avoid the copyright problems. --[[User:Salix alba|Salix alba]] ([[User talk:Salix alba|talk]]) 06:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== CSMP and homeschooling families == |
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A couple of days ago I added a comment to the main page about how CSMP is used by some homeschooling families. I received a message that my edit had been removed because I failed to provide a source. I'm not very comfortable with editing wikipedia articles. Would [http://abc-homeschool.com/the-best-free-homeschooling-curriculum-available-on-the-internet/ this page] qualify? [[User:Rmawhorter|Rmawhorter]] ([[User talk:Rmawhorter|talk]]) 20:45, 30 March 2018 (UTC) |
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This article appears to be about the USA. Shouldn't it say so?
Charles Matthews 22:55, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Are we sure the program ended in 1984? Because I had to go through this program-- it's one of the reasons I have trouble with addition :-) -- and I didn't start school until the late eighties. Could we have a citation for this?Anonymoustom 05:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- No I'm not really sure. The evaluation reports all end in 1984 I can't find any dates after that. I'll see if I can find out. --Salix alba (talk) 07:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Email from CSMP archive maintainer
[edit]Below is an email I've receive from the maintainer of the archive. It clarrifies a few things
Rich,
Thank you for doing this. 1984 was the final version started at (Central Eastern Midwestern Regional Laboratory ) CEMREL. The Project was bought out around 1984 by McREL (Mid-continental Research for Education and Learning) and supported until 2003. This revision of the final project called: CSMP/21 took place from 1992 - 1997. One goal of this revision was to make the program more cost effective.
See any of the introductions from Primary and Intermediate. http://ceure.buffalostate.edu/~csmp/CSMP%20Program/Primary%20Disk/KINDERGARDEN/kStand.pdf http://ceure.buffalostate.edu/~csmp/CSMP%20Program/Intermediate%20Disk/IG_VI/IG-VI%20Lesson%20Plans/IGVI_INTRO.PDF
Many people were involved , the original director was Burt Kaufman which started in 1963, Clare Heidema headed the project from 1979 to 2003. The start of the K-6 program was 1972.
Reports after 1984 are on the website.
This would be a good one to look at: http://ceure.buffalostate.edu/~csmp/Evaluation/ReporttotheProgramEffectivenessPanel.pdf
One thing I object to is the referral to the "Mountain Math" and the Fantasy. Mountain math was a collection of extensions of some of the activities, I got its name because McREL is in Denver at the base of the Rocky Mountains. Its role was dissemination of the program. The other was the use of fantasy to create problem-solving situations for young children which is referred to as Eli the Elephant in the description. These were used not solely to be amusing but rather to create a problem situation that the children could understand. THe focus of the entire program was to teach mathematics as a problem solving activity.
Thanks and let me know if I can give you any more information.
Warmly,
Tom
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Salix alba (talk • contribs) 20:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC).
Adding CSMP-related images
[edit]As I am not very familiar with copyright guidelines, what images are fair use? I would like to include drawings of the mini-computer, checkers, and possibly arrows and strings in this article. Perhaps even pictures of my old materials if I can find them in my closet. Are there copyright restrictions on any of these?
And it may be a little late for this, but I was taught CSMP in grade school from around 1992-1995. Taren Nauxen 06:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- I guess that everything published by the CSMP would be covered under standard copyright. For the most part it would prevent us from including them here, however it may be possible to apply a fair use rational for why these should appear here. It would probably be simplier to produce your own image of a mini-computer which would avoid the copyright problems. --Salix alba (talk) 06:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
CSMP and homeschooling families
[edit]A couple of days ago I added a comment to the main page about how CSMP is used by some homeschooling families. I received a message that my edit had been removed because I failed to provide a source. I'm not very comfortable with editing wikipedia articles. Would this page qualify? Rmawhorter (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2018 (UTC)