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|title2=Has Wikipedia deleted JD Vance's wartime medals, awards from his page? Netizens say 'They literally stole his valor' |
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|title3=Wikipedia scrubs JD Vance's military honors, sparking bias controversy |
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|title5=Wikipedia Sparks Controversy: JD Vance's Military Medals Removed Amid Valor Dispute |
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Under political positions, the image labeled "New Flag of the Republican Party" is a flag of Nazi Germany. It says only certain people may edit his page. [[Special:Contributions/47.34.156.32|47.34.156.32]] ([[User talk:47.34.156.32|talk]]) 19:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}, it appears another editor removed the image. [[User:MaximusEditor|MaximusEditor]] ([[User talk:MaximusEditor|talk]]) 21:55, 4 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 November 2024 == |
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{{Edit extended-protected|JD Vance|answered=yes}} |
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-Request to remove 'New Flag of the Republican Party' under section 'Political positions'. Flag displays Nazi swastika and does not accurately reflect the flag of the republican party, an elephant with the top half being blue containing three stars and bottom half being solid blue, encompassed in a white background. [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C65:757F:AE28:E0DF:430B:47A3:DB6C|2600:6C65:757F:AE28:E0DF:430B:47A3:DB6C]] ([[User talk:2600:6C65:757F:AE28:E0DF:430B:47A3:DB6C|talk]]) 19:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{already done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> That was vandalism and it's been addressed. – [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 20:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Birth == |
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Hi there, |
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the principal text states: "j.d. vance was announced" as vp pick at rnc convention. Look, the roll call vote of the delegates will confirm him as vp nominee in a matter of minutes. I canoot edit the article, but let's write on the present: he is the vp pick [[Special:Contributions/189.71.124.204|189.71.124.204]] ([[User talk:189.71.124.204|talk]]) 19:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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According to https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-republicans-vice-president-vance-name-359c3d1361c94f5d2d1e9798b7854477 |
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== Can an administer set this page to semi-protected/protected? == |
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“He was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio, on Aug. 2, 1984, his middle and last names the same as his biological father, Donald Bowman. His parents split up “around the time I started walking,” he writes. When he was about 6, his mother, Beverly, married for the third time. He was adopted by his new stepfather, Robert Hamel, and his mother renamed him James David Hamel. |
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It hasn't even been an hour since J.D. Vince has been announced there VP choice for Trump and this page is already being subject to vandalism and misinformation/disinformation. I can only guarantee that this page will get vandalized more as we head closer to the election. [[User:CavDan24|CavDan24]] ([[User talk:CavDan24|talk]]) 20:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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When his mother erased Donald Bowman from his and her lives, the adoption process also erased the name James Donald Bowman from the public record. The only birth certificate for Vance on file at Ohio’s vital statistics office reads James David Hamel, according to information provided by the state.” |
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:I've already semi-protected the article. There is currently a request to upgrade the protection to ECP at [[WP:RFPP]]. [[User:Isabelle Belato|Isabelle Belato]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Isabelle Belato|🏳🌈]]</sup></small> 20:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::Thanks! [[User:CavDan24|CavDan24]] ([[User talk:CavDan24|talk]]) 21:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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According to Wikipedia, here is his birth certificate: |
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== Senate election == |
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https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:J._D._Vance_Birth_Certificate.jpg |
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the fact that Vance underperformed the republican ticket during the 2022 election (compare [[2022 United States Senate election in Ohio]] lead) should be mentioned in this article. — [[User:Jonas1015119|jonas]] ([[User_talk:Jonas1015119|talk]]) 21:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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It seems that he actually was not born with the surname “Bowman” but already as “Hamel”? |
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== Summa cum laude??? == |
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(And not as James Donald but already as “James David”?) |
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The article claims, "Vance later attended the Ohio State University, graduating in 2009 with a Bachelor of Arts degree summa cum laude in political science and philosophy." This sentence has two references. Neither of the references says anything about him graduating summa cum laude. I believe this "summa cum laude" claim should be removed from the article, unless and until someone finds actual sourcing of this claim to Ohio State. [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 21:49, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:This [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/us/politics/trump-vp-pick.html?unlocked_article_code=1.7U0.aeT1._e5IbV7V3d6u New York Times article] published today verified that claim. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 21:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::That should settle it, but... I do wonder if the Times reporter got that information from reading Wikipedia! I can't find anything at Ohio State University websites that mentions any honors at graduation for him. [https://polisci.osu.edu/events/conversation-j.d.-vance This], for example, doesn't mention summa cum laude. You'd think they would call attention to it. Not being an alum myself, I can't consult their alumni directory. Well, I still have my doubts, but I guess I will replace the two worthless references with the Times article. -- [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 23:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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And that her mother was already married to Robert Hamel when he was born, according to this birth certificate? |
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== Opening sentence == |
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Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but why has Vance's title in the opening sentence been reduced to "politican and lawyer"? It formerly referenced his status as a venture capitalist and author, which provides extensive detail on his background. [[Donald Trump]]'s page notes him for various aspects of his career, for instance. While I think that venture capitalist is just one part of his career, "author" is what he became mostly known for and I feel that it deserves to be in the opening sentence. Again, I don't want to reinvent the wheel if this has already been discussed, but I would argue for returning "author" or "memoirist" to the first lead paragraph. [[User:PickleG13|PickleG13]] ([[User talk:PickleG13|talk]]) 22:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Best regards, [[User:XHML|XHML]] ([[User talk:XHML|talk]]) 22:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Eastern Kentucky roots == |
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== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 November 2024 == |
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Vance's family was from the hills of Eastern Kentucky. He also spent summers visiting relatives with his grandparents in [[Jackson, Kentucky]]. His family also has ties with the [[Hatfield-McCoy Feud|Hatfield's and McCoy's]].<ref name=":1">{{Cite web |title=55 Things to Know About J.D. Vance, Trump's VP Pick|url=https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/15/jd-vance-55-things-trump-vp-00167882 |website=Politico|date=July 15, 2024}}</ref> I feel like this should be mentioned in the article. <span style="background:blue;border:solid 1px;border-radius:8px;box-shadow:blue 3px 3px 3px"> [[User:Kentuckian|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman;color:yellow">'''Kentuckian''' </span>]]|[[User talk:Kentuckian|💬]] </span> 23:38, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Philanthropy == |
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In person life, change "...as she is Hindu and he Christian" to "...as she is Hindu and he '''is''' Christian", I think it's a typo :) [[User:Fishy-Finns|Fishy-Finns]] ([[User talk:Fishy-Finns|talk]]) 22:29, 10 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:Done... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] ([[User talk:Adolphus79|talk]]) 16:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Should the page be moved to "J. D. Vance"? == |
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Wondering if he has contributed to causes in the rust belt where he grew up 🔝 [[Special:Contributions/69.126.93.15|69.126.93.15]] ([[User talk:69.126.93.15|talk]]) 00:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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I feel like the current title is a bit informal and changing it to "J. D. Vance" or something similar would not only look better but would also be more consistent with other Wikipedia articles using this name format. I thought it would be a good idea to discuss the idea before making a formal move request, though. Any thoughts? [[User:TypoEater|TypoEater]] ([[User talk:TypoEater|talk]]) 14:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2024 == |
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:This topic was hashed out at length in July. See [[Talk:JD_Vance/Archive_2#Requested_move_18_July_2024|the page move discussion]]. [[User:Carguychris|Carguychris]] ([[User talk:Carguychris|talk]]) 15:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC) |
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Last week, Vance in an interview with "Meet the Press" said that he supports the abortion pill mifepristone "being accessible" after the Supreme Court ruled against pro-life advocates who sued to end its Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval. Source: msn.com July 15,2024 7:30 pm [[Special:Contributions/2601:40A:8100:4BD0:D98E:C7AF:1BD8:A260|2601:40A:8100:4BD0:D98E:C7AF:1BD8:A260]] ([[User talk:2601:40A:8100:4BD0:D98E:C7AF:1BD8:A260|talk]]) 01:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]Under political positions, the image labeled "New Flag of the Republican Party" is a flag of Nazi Germany. It says only certain people may edit his page. 47.34.156.32 (talk) 19:49, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done, it appears another editor removed the image. MaximusEditor (talk) 21:55, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 November 2024
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-Request to remove 'New Flag of the Republican Party' under section 'Political positions'. Flag displays Nazi swastika and does not accurately reflect the flag of the republican party, an elephant with the top half being blue containing three stars and bottom half being solid blue, encompassed in a white background. 2600:6C65:757F:AE28:E0DF:430B:47A3:DB6C (talk) 19:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Already done That was vandalism and it's been addressed. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi there,
According to https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-republicans-vice-president-vance-name-359c3d1361c94f5d2d1e9798b7854477
“He was born James Donald Bowman in Middletown, Ohio, on Aug. 2, 1984, his middle and last names the same as his biological father, Donald Bowman. His parents split up “around the time I started walking,” he writes. When he was about 6, his mother, Beverly, married for the third time. He was adopted by his new stepfather, Robert Hamel, and his mother renamed him James David Hamel.
When his mother erased Donald Bowman from his and her lives, the adoption process also erased the name James Donald Bowman from the public record. The only birth certificate for Vance on file at Ohio’s vital statistics office reads James David Hamel, according to information provided by the state.”
According to Wikipedia, here is his birth certificate:
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:J._D._Vance_Birth_Certificate.jpg
It seems that he actually was not born with the surname “Bowman” but already as “Hamel”?
(And not as James Donald but already as “James David”?)
And that her mother was already married to Robert Hamel when he was born, according to this birth certificate?
Best regards, XHML (talk) 22:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 November 2024
[edit]This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
In person life, change "...as she is Hindu and he Christian" to "...as she is Hindu and he is Christian", I think it's a typo :) Fishy-Finns (talk) 22:29, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done... - Adolphus79 (talk) 16:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Should the page be moved to "J. D. Vance"?
[edit]I feel like the current title is a bit informal and changing it to "J. D. Vance" or something similar would not only look better but would also be more consistent with other Wikipedia articles using this name format. I thought it would be a good idea to discuss the idea before making a formal move request, though. Any thoughts? TypoEater (talk) 14:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- This topic was hashed out at length in July. See the page move discussion. Carguychris (talk) 15:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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