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== God Venkateswara ==
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== Rename article as Venkateshvara ==

I propose that the article be renamed as, "Venkateshvara" in order to standardise the spelling. If you agree, please make your consent known below so that we can act on this change. [[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] ([[User talk:Chronikhiles|talk]]) 09:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

:Ok [[Special:Contributions/2401:4900:8093:1944:5F68:1CDC:98A3:5BB3|2401:4900:8093:1944:5F68:1CDC:98A3:5BB3]] ([[User talk:2401:4900:8093:1944:5F68:1CDC:98A3:5BB3|talk]]) 13:10, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] I agree based on [[WP:CRITERIA]] and [[WP:CONSISTENT]]. I'm seeing it spelled both ways in reliable English sources [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Contemporary_Hinduism/o2d_BAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=legend+of+tirumala&pg=PT329&printsec=frontcover] [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Religion_and_American_Cultures/9RYs-Z6AdpQC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=venkateswara&pg=PA115&printsec=frontcover] [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Everyday_Hinduism/44MTBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=venkatesvara&pg=PA114&printsec=frontcover], so opting for consistency to match the standardized spelling with other similar article titles would make sense. [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 20:03, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
::What other articles are you all taking about? — [[User:DaxServer|DaxServer]] ([[User talk:DaxServer|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/DaxServerOnMobile|m]] · [[Special:Contributions/DaxServer|c]]) 20:06, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
:::I'm referring to other names of articles that are also spelled both ways such as [[Alvars]] or [https://books.google.com/books?id=RwtyEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=Alwars&source=bl&ots=3rAsJufA-1&sig=ACfU3U27ezrI2mq-pgq5NTmRMF5xTA9sPA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrxfK-yoL-AhXfmmoFHR_-DDA4ChDoAXoECAkQAw#v=onepage&q=Alwars&f=false Alwars], [[Sarasvati River]] or [https://www.jstor.org/stable/24103577 Saraswati River], [[Bhuvaneshvari]] or [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lonely_Planet_India/tmuyDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=bhuvaneshwari+goddess&pg=PT1342&printsec=frontcover Bhuvaneshwari], [[Ishvara]] or [https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Essentials_of_Hinduism/LXmUEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=&pg=PT53&printsec=frontcover Ishwara], [[Svarga]] or [https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/svarga Swarga] and etc. [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 02:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Same rationale as @[[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]]. I would like to ask @[[User:Rasnaboy|Rasnaboy]] and @[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] for their opinion on this. [[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] ([[User talk:Chronikhiles|talk]]) 03:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::Support whatever is consistent, so wouldn't oppose a move to Venkateshvara. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 08:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::"W" spellings are what I think I've come across frequently so far for these terms (such as "Venkateshwara", "Saraswathi", "Bhuvaneshwari", "Ishwara" etc.). However, I admit that I'm not speaking statistically but only based on my superficial observations. That said, I would like to go by consistency and I agree with the proposed change. [[User:Rasnaboy|Rasnaboy]] ([[User talk:Rasnaboy|talk]]) 09:22, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::"Saraswati" alone has so many variations. We've got [[Saraswati]], but [[Sarasvati River]], [[Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati]], [[Jayendra Saraswathi]], etc. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 10:46, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Agreed and perhaps more of a reason to adopt a consistent style of spelling, whether "V" or "W", for such entries since we are [[WP:HERE|building an encyclopedia]]. Also, the last two that you mentioned look like names of people, so I feel that it wouldn't be applicable to them since they are official names. [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 19:21, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::::I believe WP:CONSISTENT and WP:COMMONNAME conflict when it comes to this conversation. @[[User:DougWeller|DougWeller]] @[[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] Could you help us arrive at a consensus moving forward? [[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] ([[User talk:Chronikhiles|talk]]) 05:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Just on the last point, their 'official' names are in Bengali and Tamil, respectively. We are transcribing them to the Roman alphabet, which can be done in numerous ways, and you often see "Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati", with a W, for example. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 11:18, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] Thanks for that clarification, I was mistaken, I see that their official names are different than their given names and was actually referring to their given names in my comment. [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 19:20, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Hellomesu|Hellomesu]] You are correct that Venkateswara is the WP:COMMONNAME, but the discussion we had regarding the name change achieved consensus according to WP:CONSISTENT. The fact of the matter is that the W sound does not exist in Sanskrit, which is what encouraged me to initiate this discussion in the first place. I do believe that accuracy is important in an encyclopedia. [[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] ([[User talk:Chronikhiles|talk]]) 01:50, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] I'm a life long devotee of Venkateswara. This is the first time in my life someone is using "Venkateshvara" rather than "Venkateswara". Upon searching the internet, "Venkateshvara" is a rarity. Even Google search autocorrects to "Venkateswara". The Tirupati temple website (https://www.tirumala.org/srk1.aspx) and nearly all the hindu temples use "W" rather than "V". Using V insteading of W just leads to more confusion. Hence, I feel we should just leave it as "W" and not use "V". [[User:Hellomesu|Hellomesu]] ([[User talk:Hellomesu|talk]]) 01:39, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
@[[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] based on everyone's comments so far, to me, it seems that we are all in agreement that we support whichever option is the most consistent. I noticed that you've also proposed a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Padmavathi similar change] (standardizing name) to the [[Padmavathi]] article. Since this has implication to other articles as well it might be beneficial to get others' opinions as well through something like a RfC. Am also open to other ideas, what do you all think? [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 19:42, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] Got it, I was just waiting to see if others would like to chip in as well. Regarding the [[Padmavathi]] article, I later found that Padmavati exists as a disambiguation page. I was unsure as to how to proceed in that regard. Would Padmavati (goddess) be an appropriate title? [[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] ([[User talk:Chronikhiles|talk]]) 04:45, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
::To everyone involved: Since Venkateshvara is currently a redirect to Venkateswara, I am unable to move the article myself. I have requested technical assitance towards the same. [[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] ([[User talk:Chronikhiles|talk]]) 05:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
::I believe the MOS says to avoid clarifiers in brackets in favour of unique titles, so I think [[Padmavathi]] would be preferred to [[Padmavati (goddess)]], because the latter requires disambiguation. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 08:14, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] Noted. [[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] ([[User talk:Chronikhiles|talk]]) 11:49, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
::::Thanks Chronikhiles. @[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] are you referring to [[WP:TITLEDAB]]? [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 18:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
:::::That's the one! Or [[WP:NATURAL]] specifically. "Adding a disambiguating term in parentheses after the ambiguous name is Wikipedia's standard disambiguation technique when ''none of the other solutions lead to an optimal article title'' (emphasis mine). [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 09:06, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
::::::Ah okay, I see what you mean. Thanks! [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 14:13, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
: The page name should be Venkateswara as per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. Even TTD, the official management group of Tirupati temple always [https://www.tirumala.org/TTDTempleHistory.aspx uses] Venkateswara. [[User:Reo kwon|Reo kwon]] ([[User talk:Reo kwon|talk]]) 10:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
::Hi [[User:Reo kwon|Reo kwon]], it's spelled both ways according to reliable sources (I've mentioned them above) and as a result, there was consensus to opt for [[WP:CONSISTENT|consistency]] since there is [[WP:DIVIDEDUSE]] of the spelling. [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 23:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::: Venkateswara is the standrad spelling. Venkteshvara can be added as a variant spelling. The official source Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam overwhelmingly uses Venkateswara. In Andhra Pradesh, where the temple is located, English language sources predominantly use Venkateswara. People should note that it is not a pure Sanskrit name, but rather a Sanskritized Telugu/Tamil name. We use the spelling [[Rameswaram]] as the page title for the pilgrimage site, rather than Rameshvaram as per IAST Sanskrit transliteration. Similarly, the name of this article should be Venkateswara as per [[WP:COMMONNAME]], with Venkteshvara listed as an alternative spelling.
::: And, as regards [[WP:CONSISTENT|consistency]], most Hindu temples in Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu consistently use w instead of v, and s instead of sh in English spellings of the temples and Gods. Some of the most famous and prominent temples include [[Srikalahasteeswara temple]], [https://eastgodavari.ap.gov.in/temples/lord-bhimeswara-swami-temple-draksharama/ Bhimeswara Temple, Draksharamam], [https://tms.ap.gov.in/krlpkl/cnt/about-temple Ksheera Ramalingeswara Temple], [https://www.templedairy.in/someswara-swamy-temple Someswara Temple], [https://eastgodavari.ap.gov.in/temples/sri-chalukya-kumararama-sri-bhimeswaraswamy-vari-temple-samalkot/ Kumararama Bhimeswara, Samarlakota], [https://tms.ap.gov.in/AMRAVT/cnt/about-temple Amareswara Temple, Amaravati], [[Bugga Ramalingeswara temple]], [[Pallikondeswara Temple, Surutapalli]], [[Kukkuteswara Temple]], [[Jaladheeswara Temple]], [[Sangameswaram|Sangameswara Temple]], [[Someswara Swamy Temple, Appikonda]] and many more.
:::And, there are thousands of Venkateswara temples in every nook and corner of Andhra. And the vast majority of them overwhelmingly and consistently use Venkateswara as the standard spelling. Some of the most famous ones include [[Venkateswara Temple, Dwaraka Tirumala]], [[Venkateswara Temple, Tenali]], [[Narapura Venkateswara Temple, Jammalamadugu]], [[Prasanna Venkateswara Temple, Appalayagunta]], [[Kalyana Venkateswara Temple, Narayanavanam]]. Even major temples outside India consistently use Venkateswara. For example, [[Sri Venkateswara Temple, Pittsburgh]], [[Sri Venkateswara Temple (New Jersey)]], [https://svsbalaji.org/ Sri Venkateswara Swami (Balaji) Temple in Greater Chicago], [https://www.svtemplenc.org/ Sri Venkateswara Temple of North Carolina], [https://temples.vibhaga.com/temple/sri-venkateswara-temple-of-central-ohio/ Sri Venkateswara Temple of Central Ohio], [https://svtempleco.org/Home/index.html Sri Venkateswara Lotus Temple, Fairfax], [http://austinbalajitemple.org/ Sri Venkateswara Temple of Austin], [https://svtempleco.org/Home/index.html Sri Venkateswara Swamy Temple of Colorado], [https://www.lvtemple.org/ Lakshmi Venkateswara Temple, Seattle], [https://www.vedatemple.org/ VEDA Sri Venkateswara Temple], [[Venkateswara Temple, Minnesota|Sri Venkateswara (Balaji) Temple, Minnesota]], [https://www.sdvstccsc.org/ Sri Dasavathara Venkateswara Swami Temple Columbia], [http://ttdseva.in/malibu-sri-venkateswara-hindu-temple-california/ Malibu Sri Venkateswara Hindu Temple California], [https://www.ishtadevata.com/temple/sri-venkateswara-temple-of-texas-dallas-texas/ Sri Venkateswara Temple Of Texas], [https://www.venkateswara.org.uk/ Shri Venkateswara (Balaji) Temple of UK], [https://www.theglobetrotter.co.uk/2022/07/balaji-temple-uk.html Shri Venkateswara Balaji Temple in Tividale, UK], [https://www.svtsydney.org/ Sri Venkateswara Temple (SVT) Sydney], [https://srivenkateswaratemple.ca/ Sri Venkateswara Hindu Temple Hamilton], [https://www.svwt.org.nz/ Sri Venkateswara Swamy Temple of Wellington], [https://www.tripopola.com/location/mauritius/sri-prasanna-venkateswara-temple/11966 Sri Prasanna Venkateswara Temple - Mauritius].

:::As can be seen from the numerous examples above, Venkateswara is by far the most common and consistent spelling of the deity. I can provide further examples of hundreds of temples in towns and villages of Andhra where Venkateswara is the common spelling as per English-language sources like newspapers, directories, district gazetteers, travel guides, Google Maps location info, etc. The page has been hastily moved and without significant discussion. By moving it to Venkateshvara, the page has been made inconsistent with dozens of other famous temples of the deity and also with the page names of the most other famous temples in Andhra. It should be moved back to Venkateswara as per the overwhelming evidence that Venkateswara is not only the official but also the most common and consistent selling as per diverse English-language sources across the globe. [[User:Reo kwon|Reo kwon]] ([[User talk:Reo kwon|talk]]) 09:45, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::::I can see the point you're trying to make, however the names you've listed are names of temples which are official names of ''places''. ''This discussion'' is about the deity whose name ''is'' spelled two different ways in reliable english and academic sources and therefore there's [[WP:DIVIDEDUSE]]. So to say that Venkateswara is the ''official'' spelling isn't entirely true otherwise we would see this reflected in [[WP:RS]] where only that version of the spelling is consistently used. But it's not, as can be seen in this [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Vedic_Voices/8oUSBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=venkatesvara+god&pg=PT52&printsec=frontcover source] by oxford university press where it's spelled with a ''v'' and [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Contemporary_Hinduism/o2d_BAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=venkateswara+god&pg=PT328&printsec=frontcover in this one] by routledge where it's spelled with a ''w''. Additionally, the previous consensus was reached based on [[WP:CONSISTENT]] (which I'd encourage you to take a peek at when you have a moment because it doesn't have to do with how names are spelled locally). And while I still support the move based on that policy, am open to hear others' thoughts as well. Thanks. [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 19:51, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::''however the names you've listed are names of temples which are official names of places.''
:::::Who do you think these temples are named after? Jesus, Shiva, Zoroaster, Buddha, Moses, Indra, Varuna, Agni, Poleramma? I wrote a very, very elaborate comment documenting over 40 cases of the world's largest temples dedicated to the deity all consistently and overwhelmingly referring to the deity as Venkateswara. [[User:Reo kwon|Reo kwon]] ([[User talk:Reo kwon|talk]]) 08:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::I agree with @[[User:Reo kwon|Reo kwon]] that the use of Venkateswara is pretty consistent across the world and is used by the Tirupati temple where Venkateswara is the deity. This discussion is the first place to I heard Venkateshvara. We should use Venkateswara for this page. [[User:Hellomesu|Hellomesu]] ([[User talk:Hellomesu|talk]]) 09:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] Please see the above discussion. I have provided very detailed evidence from 40 of the largest temples of the deity from across the world. All of them consistently and overwhelmingly use the spelling Venkateswara for the deity. Also, note that the spelling with w and s is standard for most Andhra/South Indian deities as I have documented with dozens of examples from famous temples of other Hindu deities from Andhra. By moving the page to Venkateshvara, it has been made inconsistent with dozens of other famous temples of the deity and also with the page names of most other Hindu deities of Andhra/South India.
: In light of the above evidence, and the lack of other convincing arguments, as per the [[WP:CONSISTENT]] and [[WP:COMMONNAME]] policies, please move the page back to the title '''Venkateswara'''. [[User:Reo kwon|Reo kwon]] ([[User talk:Reo kwon|talk]]) 07:43, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
::Please open a formal [[WP:RM]] discussion. This will allow the discussion to be known by various projects that may have concern over the naming. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 10:46, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

== Requested move 10 June 2023 ==

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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' Even subtracting the suspected canvassed !votes, I still see a consensus to move. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:ClydeFranklin|C<small>LYDE</small>]] <small>[[User talk:ClydeFranklin|<sup>TALK TO ME</sup>]]/[[Special:Contributions/ClydeFranklin|<sub>STUFF DONE</sub>]] (please [[Help:Talk_pages#Notifications|mention]] me on reply)</small> 19:33, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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[[:Venkateshvara]] → {{no redirect|Venkateswara}} – Move RM as suggested by [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] above for wider discussion. [[User:Redtigerxyz|<span style="color: red;">Redtigerxyz</span>]] <sup> [[User talk:Redtigerxyz|Talk]] </sup> 16:40, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
* '''Leaning towards Support''' as [[WP:COMMONNAME]] (apart from being the official name as per his chief temple [https://www.tirumala.org/TempleLegend.aspx])
** [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Venkateswara%2CVenkateshvara&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2012&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true Ngrams]
** [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Venkateswara,Venkateshvara&hl=en-US Trends]
** Indian newspapers also use Venkateswara [https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/lg-sinha-to-inaugurate-lord-venkateswara-s-temple-in-jammu-today-101686166385105.html Hindustan Times], [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/lg-inaugurates-lord-venkateswara-temple-in-jammu-says-its-will-boost-religious-tourism-and-development/articleshow/100858329.cms?from=mdr Times of India], [https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/cm-eknath-shinde-deputy-cm-fadnavis-tirupati-venkateswara-temple-navi-mumbai-8650511/ Indian Express] as well as [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-17582194 BBC]
** Also as per [[User:Reo kwon]]'s list in the above section.
Will check on Books usage once, before affirming my view. --[[User:Redtigerxyz|<span style="color: red;">Redtigerxyz</span>]] <sup> [[User talk:Redtigerxyz|Talk]] </sup> 17:06, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Inviting [[User:Chronikhiles]], [[User:Eucalyptusmint]], [[User:Rasnaboy]], [[User:Dāsānudāsa]], [[User:Hellomesu]], [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] - participants in the above discussion.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|<span style="color: red;">Redtigerxyz</span>]] <sup> [[User talk:Redtigerxyz|Talk]] </sup> 17:11, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
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:'''Oppose''' I would oppose this change per WP:CONSISTENT. I understand that Venkateshvara is not the WP:COMMONNAME on this encyclopedia, but the present title is consistent with other articles on this website such as [[Ishvara]], [[Ishvari]], and [[Bhuvaneshvari]]. Venkateshvara might not be commonly used in newspapers, but it is widely employed in scholarly works on Hinduism (examples: [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Everyday_Hinduism/44MTBwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=&pg=PA114&printsec=frontcover 1], [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Hindu_Art/xJ-lzU_nj_MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=&pg=PA147&printsec=frontcover 2], [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/The_Religions_of_India/87k0AwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=&pg=PT1212&printsec=frontcover 3], [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/The_Routledge_Handbook_of_Hindu_Temples/H5eSEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=&pg=PT312&printsec=frontcover 4], and [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Hinduism/OgMmceadQ3gC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=&pg=PA450&printsec=frontcover 5]). [[User:Chronikhiles|<b style="color:Teal">Chronikhiles</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:Chronikhiles|<b style="color:Black"><i>(talk)</i></b>]]</sup> 07:53, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
:'''Support''' for move to Venkateswara since Venkateswara is the name used by main Tirupati temple.[https://www.tirumala.org/TempleLegend.aspx] and is used by nearly all the temples as the name of the deity. There are a number of scholarly works on Hinduism that use Venkateswara too (examples [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sri_Venkateswara/26_mkMCBzcwC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara&pg=PT2&printsec=frontcover 1], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sri_Venkateshwara/CY9eAAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara&printsec=frontcover 2], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lord_Venkateswara_and_Alwars/RrtWAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Venkateswara&dq=Venkateswara&printsec=frontcover 3], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sri_Venkateswara_the_Lord_of_the_Seven_H/10QgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Venkateswara&dq=Venkateswara&printsec=frontcover 4], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/40873161?searchText=Venkateswara&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DVenkateswara&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A8a58593bf3af152e89206381131e6b92 5]). [[User:Hellomesu|Hellomesu]] ([[User talk:Hellomesu|talk]]) 08:00, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
:* '''Weak oppose''' for reasons I've already mentioned in the discussions above. Still on the fence about if there is an actual ''official'' spelling, because it would otherwise be consistently spelled that way by scholars, i.e. [[Diana Eck]] here [https://www.google.com/books/edition/India/PyC4o7i9tnEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=venkateshvara+eck&pg=PA318&printsec=frontcover]. On the flip side this isn't the case for the temple's name which ''is'' consistently being spelled the same across sources, even if that source spells the deity's name with a v. Also @[[User:Hellomesu|Hellomesu]], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sri_Venkateswara/26_mkMCBzcwC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara&pg=PT2&printsec=frontcover this] isn't a scholarly source, it's a comic series and interestingly, the [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lord_Venkateswara_and_Alwars/RrtWAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0&bsq=Venkateswara third source] above, in the google page info in the "About this edition" and "About the work" sections it's spelled Venkatesvara. Also @[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] jw/curious Venkateswara is also used as a last name/publisher name, would the Ngrams and Trends include these? [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 15:32, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
: '''Strong support'''. As I have clearly documented Venkateswara is the most apt title for the page as per the [[WP:CONSISTENT]] and [[WP:COMMONNAME]] policies.

: Venkateswara is consistent with the spellings Srikalahasteeswara, Bhimeswara, Ksheera Ramalingeswara, Someswara, Bhimeswara, Amareswara, Ramalingeswara, Pallikondeswara Temple, Kukkuteswara, Jaladheeswara, Sangameswara, Someswara and numerous other names of Hindu deities across South India. [[User:Reo kwon|Reo kwon]] ([[User talk:Reo kwon|talk]]) 18:36, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

:'''Very Strong Support''' for move to Venkateswara since Venkateswara is the name used by main Tirupati temple trust (TTD).[https://www.tirumala.org/TempleLegend.aspx] and is used by nearly all the temples as the name of the deity. All Hindu deities are named using ''Swara''. There are a number of scholarly works on Hinduism that use Venkateswara too (examples [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sri_Venkateswara/26_mkMCBzcwC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara&pg=PT2&printsec=frontcover 1], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sri_Venkateshwara/CY9eAAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara&printsec=frontcover 2], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lord_Venkateswara_and_Alwars/RrtWAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Venkateswara&dq=Venkateswara&printsec=frontcover 3], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Sri_Venkateswara_the_Lord_of_the_Seven_H/10QgAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Venkateswara&dq=Venkateswara&printsec=frontcover 4], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/40873161?searchText=Venkateswara&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DVenkateswara&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A8a58593bf3af152e89206381131e6b92 5]). [[User:Fostera12|Fostera12]] ([[User talk:Fostera12|talk]]) 08:18, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
: '''Strong Support'''. Venkateswara is the spelling used by the main temple at Tirupati. It is not only the most visited Hindu temple but also the most visited religious site in the world. Ideally, this should seal the deal. Even if we look at other famous temples of the deity, all of them use Venkateswara pretty consistently (as per above posts). This very clearly establishes that Venkateswara is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] for the deity.
:Furthermore, Venkateswara is also widely used in various academic sources. For example, in books: [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=9RYs-Z6AdpQC&pg=PA115&dq=Venkateswara+temple&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjy4O64n8D%20AhWYcWwGHY-sAgQQ6AF6BAgDEAI 1], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=o2d%20BAAAQBAJ&pg=PT328&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjtvvtn8D%20AhVWWGwGHVuMDWAQ6AF6BAgJEAI 2], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=fn56DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT23&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjtvvtn8D_AhVWWGwGHVuMDWAQ6AF6BAgCEAI#v=onepage&q=Venkateswara%20deity&f=false 3], [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Transplanting%20Religious%20Traditions/l6aSm8116UkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara+deity&pg=PA185&printsec=frontcover 4], [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Tourism%20Development%20in%20India/mHzoPFggbuMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara+deity&pg=PA97&printsec=frontcover 5], [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Temple%20Tales/ZQC0DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara+deity&pg=PT166&printsec=frontcover 6], [https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Hinduism%20Today/a5732hIV03kC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Venkateswara+deity&pg=PA123&printsec=frontcover 7], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=%20kxnDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT296&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifw9r7oMD%20AhUexTgGHRaSCBE4FBDoAXoECAYQAg 8], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=RrtWAAAAMAAJ&q=Venkateswara+deity&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifw9r7oMD%20AhUexTgGHRaSCBE4FBDoAXoECAMQAg 9], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=rsLADwAAQBAJ&pg=PT81&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifw9r7oMD%20AhUexTgGHRaSCBE4FBDoAXoECAkQAg 10], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=aHSqIWYQWjUC&pg=PA214&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifw9r7oMD_AhUexTgGHRaSCBE4FBDoAXoECAoQAg#v=onepage&q=Venkateswara%20deity&f=false 11], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=ytYKEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT148&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifw9r7oMD%20AhUexTgGHRaSCBE4FBDoAXoECAcQAg 12], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=djI5mL2qeocC&pg=PT291&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ5fnSocD%20AhXcXmwGHZipByI4HhDoAXoECAYQAg 13], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=rxQbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA144&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ5fnSocD%20AhXcXmwGHZipByI4HhDoAXoECAsQAg 14], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=6wVRv2CU-nYC&pg=PA203&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ5fnSocD%20AhXcXmwGHZipByI4HhDoAXoECAUQAg 15], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=ELbqCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA142&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjQ5fnSocD%20AhXcXmwGHZipByI4HhDoAXoECAcQAg 16], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=r-ffeWmj2JUC&pg=PA18 17], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=kR1eDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT323&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiriq7nocD%20AhXWTWwGHUCiBKA4KBDoAXoECAoQAg 18], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=yjluAAAAMAAJ&q=Venkateswara+deity&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiriq7nocD%20AhXWTWwGHUCiBKA4KBDoAXoECAsQAg 19], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=89YguasCOXQC&pg=PA524&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnpt37ocD%20AhWYZmwGHWIhCw04MhDoAXoECAgQAg 20], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=u297RJP9gvwC&pg=PA124&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnpt37ocD%20AhWYZmwGHWIhCw04MhDoAXoECAsQAg 21], [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=hKyJEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT196&dq=Venkateswara+deity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks%20redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir2t2OosD%20AhW7XGwGHf8lBoY4PBDoAXoECAgQAg 22]. In academic journals: [https://www.jstor.org/stable/40873161?searchText=venkateswara&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3Ab7560e2fd150cd741099d828ae8834e2 1], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/44142749?searchText=venkateswara&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3Ab7560e2fd150cd741099d828ae8834e2 2], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/4366483?searchText=venkateswara&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3Ab7560e2fd150cd741099d828ae8834e2 3], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/44292298?searchText=venkateswara&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3Ab7560e2fd150cd741099d828ae8834e2 4], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/25212336?searchText=venkateswara&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3Ab7560e2fd150cd741099d828ae8834e2 5], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/3270360?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A9c9658e6680a5e339b4580c595bc14e6 6], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv307fgz7.12?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A9c9658e6680a5e339b4580c595bc14e6 7], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/20027723?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjoyLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6MjV9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBvcnRfcGF 8], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/44140359?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjoyLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6MjV9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBvcnRfcGF 9], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/1465767?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjoyLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6MjV9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBvcnRfcGFy 10], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/4376699?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjoyLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6MjV9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBvcnRfcGFy 11], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv1ddcr78.17?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjozLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6NTB9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBv 12], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt5hj9tk.6?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjozLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6NTB9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBvcn 13], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/3249962?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjozLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6NTB9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBvcnRfcGFy 14], [https://www.jstor.org/stable/23340362?searchText=venkateswara%20deity&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dvenkateswara%2Bdeity%26pagemark%3DeyJwYWdlIjozLCJzdGFydHMiOnsiSlNUT1JCYXNpYyI6NTB9fQ%253D%253D%26groupefq%3DWyJtcF9yZXNlYXJjaF9yZXBvcnRfcGF 15]. [[User:Nikh Nori|Nikh Nori]] ([[User talk:Nikh Nori|talk]]) 13:10, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
*'''Comment:''' Expressing concern that [[User:Nikh Nori|Nikh Nori]] and [[User:Fostera12|Fostera12]] have been [[WP:CAN|canvassed]] to this discussion, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nikh_Nori&diff=prev&oldid=1159819041 diff 1] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fostera12&diff=prev&oldid=1159818649 diff 2]. [[User:Eucalyptusmint|Eucalyptusmint]] ([[User talk:Eucalyptusmint|talk]]) 00:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
*:Facts are facts, no canvassing required to prove facts. Thanks. [[User:Fostera12|Fostera12]] ([[User talk:Fostera12|talk]]) 04:13, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
*: I would have commented the exact same thing if I had come across the page by myself. Venkateswara is the family deity of most Andhra people and changing the name used by tens of millions of devout devotees across the world would mean your position would be contradicted by facts, with or without canvassing. Also, your comment seems ad-hominem presuming that people don't have agency and would simply fall for pleas. [[User:Nikh Nori|Nikh Nori]] ([[User talk:Nikh Nori|talk]]) 13:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
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== Remove wrong information ==

Sri Venkateswara Swamy is a form of Vishnu, not Avatar of Vishnu, None of the scriptures even 18 puranas didn't mentioned anything about swamy is Avatar of Bhagwan Vishnu.
Avatar means taking mortal incarnation in earth for restoration of Dharma in karmabhoomi, Venkateswara can't to be considered Avatar, None of Sampradaya didn't believe this information.

Venkateswara is another pastimes of Vishnu, like Ranganatha, jagannath, vitthoba, these deities can't consider as Avatar.

Venkata is Sanskrit word,
Derived from Ven, kata, means
Remover of sins,
Tirumala is derived from Tamil language, means divine abode.


whats wrong with you people, what present info in this page, it's edits by sock user @[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]],
Both venkata and tirumala are same meaning of different word.
Even I reverted revision is good stable with including citations and source, why can't understand. See in Revision long old version, it's always mentioned that he is form of Vishnu, even this article central description of page mentioned that he is form of Hindu God Vishnu, without seeing you simply reverted.
Both are in same place.
Day by day I get depressed.
@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]]
@[[User:Seyamar|Seyamar]]
@[[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]] [[User:Chandbhaiya05|Chandbhaiya05]] ([[User talk:Chandbhaiya05|talk]]) 13:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
:What part of "you have been blocked indefinitely from editing" do you not understand? [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 13:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Hbanm|Hbanm]]
::what present info in this page, it's edits by sock user @[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]]
::Even I reverted revision is good stable with including citations and source, why can't understand. See in Revision long old version, it's always mentioned that he is form of Vishnu, even this article central description of page mentioned that he is form.
::I kindly request plz see revision history. [[User:Chandbhaiya05|Chandbhaiya05]] ([[User talk:Chandbhaiya05|talk]]) 15:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)


== October 3 ==
Removed wrong information that is Avatar birth and Avatar end, this is fake information.
Lord Vishnu marries lakshmi avatars, like wise same vishnu in another form i.e, in venkateswara form he marries padmavati, an avatar of lakshmi, like this we cannnot considered venkateswara is avatar, he is vishnu himself, in another form. Venkateswara another name is Sri Nivasa, sri means laksmhi, which means abode and lord of laksmi, if he avatar of Vishnu, how can he is consort of Sridevi and Bhudevi. so Venkateswara swamy is form of Vishnu only, None of single scriptures mentioned this how wikipedia show, please change information and value our culture by removing fabricated missionaries. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 03:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)


Discuss before changes unsource vandalism. don't come to revert for your agenda, I have already told you he is form of vishnu, not avatar, why understand simple concept even this article central description page mentioned that he is Form of Hindu God vishnu, remove wrong info edit by sock user @[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]], atleast please change wrong info in your account.
:No one responses , [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 07:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
@[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]]
::I added content in wikipedia page of Sri Venkateswara Swamy based on wikipedia link description. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 07:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
@[[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]]
:::Thanking [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 09:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]]
{{od}}Another sock of [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vinayvinyill‎|Vinayvinyill‎]], I think. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 09:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
[[File:Venkateswara page info.jpg|thumb]]


:who is vinayviyill, [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 10:04, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
see this proof. [[User:Soosepoppy|Soosepoppy]] ([[User talk:Soosepoppy|talk]]) 08:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::I am priest , i remove wrong information on Sri Venkateswara swamivaru, and correction the mistakes. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 10:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Please read the page [[Avatar]], it clearly states him as an avtar of Vishnu. It is mainly mentioned in the Manava Purana. Also, please read the page [[Legend of Tirumala]], he had indeed taken an human avtara on earth. So stop unnecessary edits. [[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] ([[User talk:Yupsguts|talk]]) 11:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Please read these lines: "Vishnu reincarnated as Srinivasa (or presented himself after penance in the ant-hill) as the son of the elderly woman Vakula Devi." Srinivasa is Venkateswara only, and amply sources support the statemen. [[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] ([[User talk:Yupsguts|talk]]) 11:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::please dont add avatar birth and avatar end, Venkata and tirumala are same abode of different names
:::::Ranganatha, Jagannatha, Vitthoba these are forms of vishnu, archa avatar image manifestation, if you added avatar birth and end add only to historical avatar deities not to form avatars. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::Varaha purana is main text for Tirumala, it describe entire information about Tirumala abode, before vishnu taken venkateswara form, this tirumala abode is varaha kshetra, varaha swamy also reside in venkatadri, please read the literatures and descriptions of Legend of Tirumala in even wikipedia page article.
::::::@[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::::In recent years so many christians missions harm the venkateswara swamy temple, so its main important to add affiliation to Hinduism, even so many rationalist says that he is buddha idol or skanda form, so it necessary to added Hinduism, Vaishnavism and his ethnic groups of Sri vaishnavism.
:::::::@[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::If anydoubts regards ask me to my talk page.
::::::::Thanking You [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:33, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Sir, please understand. Wikipedia is not a place for your personal opinions. Anything that you add to any article needs a source. Please add a source to sustain your claims or else it will be removed. Also you seem like a sock as pointed by another user. [[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] ([[User talk:Yupsguts|talk]]) 12:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::@[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]], Dont ping my username to others , your wiki usersays how you are,
:::::::::you join wikipedia in last three months but you edit more than 3,000 edits ,
:::::::::how can it possible?,
:::::::::for each 1 month you added approximately 1000 edits, this shows how you edit, please dont edit whaterver comes to your mind [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::and also to you wikipedia is not personal opinion , please dont added whatever comes to mind. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::you join wikipedia in last three months but you edit more than 3,000 edits ,
:::::::::::how can it possible?, [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::Sir, because I have created many news page that are verified by administrator. So when you create a page. You add maximum information on it. And hence I have so many edits. I have created more than 10 pages by now. [[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] ([[User talk:Yupsguts|talk]]) 12:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::Also, you also have 30 edits by now. So 30 edits a day means almost 900 a month. Basic maths. [[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] ([[User talk:Yupsguts|talk]]) 12:47, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::I have added everything with a source. I think you won't understand. So better leave it [[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] ([[User talk:Yupsguts|talk]]) 12:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes, Now clear it, Now what wikipedia mentions that is clear, dont add unsourced content, correct only mistakes [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::Thanking You. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::::And Dont add Gender text, already mentioned in introduction, Venkateswara swamy is not Human , he is God. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 12:52, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
{{od}}I have reverted to the stable version pending the outcome of this discussion. {{user|Ramapriya jeeyar}}, as you have been reverted by multiple users, you now need to gain consensus for your proposed changes, per [[WP:BRD]]. I suggest listing them individually here so other editors can see exactly what you're proposing to add/change. Thanks, [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 13:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)


:The word Tirumala is of Tamil origin. The term “Tiru”, means sacred or holy and “Mala”, means mountain or hill Both venkata and tirumala are same meaning of different word. Both are same place. venkatadri is hill and this hill reside in tirumala town. Removed wrong information that is Avatar birth and Avatar end, this is fake information.
:Thanks Sir. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 13:26, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]]
:I restored the previous version page., please again dont add, already dicussion in talk page about sri venkateswara swamy [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 13:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]]
::@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] sir, see that above username is blocked as sockpuppet, He edit nearly 3,000 edits just for three months, so many wrong information added for Hindu deities , please protect the page.
:@[[User:Chronikhiles|Chronikhiles]]
::This user @[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]] is blocked as sock. [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 14:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]], Please revert the edits by socks, @[[User:Yupsguts|Yupsguts]], he also made edits on Lord Rama wiki page and other Hindu deities [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 14:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Seyamar|Seyamar]] [[User:Soosepoppy|Soosepoppy]] ([[User talk:Soosepoppy|talk]]) 08:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::YOU ARE INDEFINITELY BLOCKED. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EDIT WIKIPEDIA. I don't know how much clearer I can make it. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 08:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::::And also please revert edits venkateswara swamy what he did , revert full last version
::::@[[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 14:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
:::can you make changes wrong info by discussion in talk page by get consensus, atleast do it. [[User:Soosepoppy|Soosepoppy]] ([[User talk:Soosepoppy|talk]]) 09:20, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::If anyone edits with more wrong information on Hindu deities please to check if a sock-sweep and do lock accounts [[User:Ramapriya jeeyar|Ramapriya jeeyar]] ([[User talk:Ramapriya jeeyar|talk]]) 14:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Editing includes talk pages. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 09:25, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:17, 24 November 2024

God Venkateswara

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whats wrong with you people, what present info in this page, it's edits by sock user @Yupsguts, Even I reverted revision is good stable with including citations and source, why can't understand. See in Revision long old version, it's always mentioned that he is form of Vishnu, even this article central description of page mentioned that he is form of Hindu God Vishnu, without seeing you simply reverted. Day by day I get depressed. @Dāsānudāsa @Seyamar @Chronikhiles Chandbhaiya05 (talk) 13:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What part of "you have been blocked indefinitely from editing" do you not understand? Dāsānudāsa (talk) 13:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hbanm
what present info in this page, it's edits by sock user @Yupsguts
Even I reverted revision is good stable with including citations and source, why can't understand. See in Revision long old version, it's always mentioned that he is form of Vishnu, even this article central description of page mentioned that he is form.
I kindly request plz see revision history. Chandbhaiya05 (talk) 15:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 3

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Discuss before changes unsource vandalism. don't come to revert for your agenda, I have already told you he is form of vishnu, not avatar, why understand simple concept even this article central description page mentioned that he is Form of Hindu God vishnu, remove wrong info edit by sock user @Yupsguts, atleast please change wrong info in your account. @Redtigerxyz @Chronikhiles @Dāsānudāsa

see this proof. Soosepoppy (talk) 08:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The word Tirumala is of Tamil origin. The term “Tiru”, means sacred or holy and “Mala”, means mountain or hill Both venkata and tirumala are same meaning of different word. Both are same place. venkatadri is hill and this hill reside in tirumala town. Removed wrong information that is Avatar birth and Avatar end, this is fake information.
@Dāsānudāsa
@Redtigerxyz
@Chronikhiles
@Seyamar Soosepoppy (talk) 08:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
YOU ARE INDEFINITELY BLOCKED. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EDIT WIKIPEDIA. I don't know how much clearer I can make it. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 08:43, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
can you make changes wrong info by discussion in talk page by get consensus, atleast do it. Soosepoppy (talk) 09:20, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Editing includes talk pages. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 09:25, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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