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Proposed merge of New Providence Shale into Borden Formation

Current article duplicates content found the Borden. scope_creep^Talk 15:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment per previous dicussion at the Afd Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black River Formation @Paul H.:, @Choess:, @Jwtmsqeh: Can you please take a look at this and give your considered opinion if possible. scope_creep^Talk 15:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The support reasons for merging BRF to BRG does not apply here, different scenarios. Lavalizard101 (talk) 19:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment added Edwardsville Formation to this merge discussion as it can also be merged into this article. Allan Nonymous (talk) 19:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Added a note at Talk:Spickert Knob Formation asking if the discussion can be added to here as well. Lavalizard101 (talk) 20:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment To do any mergers, a person will need to change the Borden Formation into the Borden Group because the Borden Group as currently defined includes three formations: the New Providence Shale, the Spickert Knob Formation, and the Edwardsville Formation. Formations are subdivisions of a group, not subdivisions of another formation. Regardless what is decided, Borden Formation needs to be changed into the Borden Group as recognized by the Indiana Geological and Water Survey Paul H. (talk) 03:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do once this discussion is done. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Spickert Knob Formation into Borden Formation

Moved from Talk:Spickert Knob Formation

Duplicates content found in source article. scope_creep^Talk 15:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment per previous dicussion at the Afd Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black River Formation @Paul H.:, @Choess:, @Jwtmsqeh: Can you please take a look at this and give your considered opinion if possible. scope_creep^Talk 15:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The support for merging BRF to BRG does not apply here, different scenarios. Fixed merge proposalLavalizard101 (talk) 19:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also for the sake of not duplicating discussions can this discussion take place at Talk:Borden Formation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lavalizard101 (talk • contribs)

Done Викидим (talk) 21:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The name is well-established, the formation is well-known even among amateurs (I have added a popular article that mentions the formation multiple times). However, the good descriptions, except by the geologists who identified this formation, seem hard to come by. In other words, a WP:good article can be hard to create even by User:Somebody "Notme" Else. Creation of a Borden Group therefore might make sense. --Викидим (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Comment''' per previous dicussion at the Afd [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black River Formation]] {{ping|Paul H.}}, {{ping|Choess}}, {{ping|jwtmsqeh}} Can you please take a look at this and give your considered opinion if possible.   '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 15:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
 :The support reasons for merging BRF to BRG does not apply here, different scenarios. [[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101|talk]])  19:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
+* '''Comment''' added [[Edwardsville Formation]] to this merge discussion as it can also be merged into this article. [[User:Allan Nonymous|Allan Nonymous]] ([[User talk:Allan Nonymous|talk]]) 19:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
+**Added a note at [[Talk:Spickert Knob Formation]] asking if the discussion can be added to here as well. [[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101|talk]])  20:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
+* '''Comment''' To do any mergers, a person will need to change the ''Borden Formation'' into the ''Borden Group'' because the [https://legacy.igws.indiana.edu/IGNIS/GeoNamesDetails.cfm?ID=B5A27E53%2DAFCE%2D4D62%2DBB69%2D6B009B7A93B9 Borden Group as currently defined includes three formations]: the [https://legacy.igws.indiana.edu/ignis/GeoNamesDetails.cfm?ID=F0804A5D-DDDE-4244-998C-B6AE892A2B95 New Providence Shale], the [https://legacy.igws.indiana.edu/ignis/GeoNamesDetails.cfm?ID=B41425A3-B2CC-4BBF-92CF-2AD28593BA1E Spickert Knob Formation], and the [https://legacy.igws.indiana.edu/ignis/GeoNamesDetails.cfm?ID=C6526084-588A-4553-A50C-F22420B2FE8E Edwardsville Formation]. Formations are subdivisions of a group, not subdivisions of another formation. Regardless what is decided, ''Borden Formation'' needs to be changed into the ''Borden Group'' [https://legacy.igws.indiana.edu/ignis/ as  recognized by the Indiana Geological and Water Survey] [[User:Paul H.|Paul H.]] ([[User talk:Paul H.|talk]]) 03:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
+*:Will do once this discussion is done. [[User:Allan Nonymous|Allan Nonymous]] ([[User talk:Allan Nonymous|talk]]) 13:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
+== Proposed merge of [[Spickert Knob Formation]] into [[Borden Formation]] ==
+{{moved from|Talk:Spickert Knob Formation}}
+Duplicates content found in source article.  '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 15:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' per previous dicussion at the Afd [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black River Formation]] {{ping|Paul H.}}, {{ping|Choess}}, {{ping|jwtmsqeh}} Can you please take a look at this and give your considered opinion if possible.   '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px black; font-family:Papyrus">[[User:scope_creep|<span style="color:#3399ff">scope_creep</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:scope_creep#top|Talk]]</sup></span>''' 15:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
+:The support for merging BRF to BRG does not apply here, different scenarios. Fixed merge proposal[[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101|talk]])  19:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
+::Also for the sake of not duplicating discussions can this discussion take place at [[Talk:Borden Formation]] <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lavalizard101|Lavalizard101]] ([[User talk:Lavalizard101#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lavalizard101|contribs]]) </small> {{done}} [[User:Викидим|Викидим]] ([[User talk:Викидим|talk]]) 21:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
+* '''Comment''' The name is well-established, the formation is well-known even among amateurs (I have added a popular article that mentions the formation multiple times). However, the good descriptions, except by the geologists who identified this formation, seem hard to come by. In other words, a [[WP:good article]] can be hard to create even by [[Wikipedia:User Somebody "Notme" Else|User:Somebody "Notme" Else]]. Creation of a [[Borden Group]] therefore might make sense. --[[User:Викидим|Викидим]] ([[User talk:Викидим|talk]]) 21:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)