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== Cahercommaun ==
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hey @[[User:The Banner|The Banner]] you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?
There is a IP address that have been adding "MY AirAsia" which is a non existent airline, he put the code of it as Z9 which is the flight code for the defunct MYAirline, I have reverted his edits twice and he still insists on adding it and now he added two more non existent airline, one was the old name of a cargo airline that had it's AOC revoked, the other one was just only under planning according to several sources on Google, Can you revert the edits by the IP? because it looks like they refuse to stop, and I don't want to get into a misunderstanding and get falsely accused of edit warring, thanks [[User:Metrosfan|Metrosfan]] ([[User talk:Metrosfan|talk]]) 12:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
:I checked them and removed all three one by one with an explanation. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 12:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:The Banner|The Banner]] thanks, you might wanna add it to your watchlist as they might re-add them [[User:Metrosfan|Metrosfan]] ([[User talk:Metrosfan|talk]]) 13:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
:::I have also asked some questions on his talkpage. If it persists, a semi-protection can be requested at [[WP:RPP]]. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 13:12, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:The Banner|The Banner]] this user has also made edits of some unsourced edits of Thai startup airlines launching new routes even though they haven't even began operations [[User:Metrosfan|Metrosfan]] ([[User talk:Metrosfan|talk]]) 15:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:The Banner|The Banner]] update: another IP address have also re-added Ascent Airways Malaysia to the same article, I have reverted it, is this a sign of potential sockpuppetery? [[User:Metrosfan|Metrosfan]] ([[User talk:Metrosfan|talk]]) 09:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::It could be but it is very difficult to prove. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 11:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)


the article's lead says it's "sometimes ''Cahercommane"'' which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm
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Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.
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Please could you stop making malicious edits and reverts on Church of Ireland related pages? You push a Roman Catholic POV, including sectarian and inflammatory language. You have told me this is because you see the Church of Ireland as unimportant. This is not acceptable. [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 12:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of ''Tulach Commáin'' ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).
:Thank you for confirming your CoI-point of view. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 12:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

::I do not have a CofI pov in my edits. I said it was unacceptable that you are making edits based on how subjectively important you regard the CofI to be. [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 12:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.
:::You are just claiming things without any evidence, with a clear positive bias towards the CoI. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 12:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

::::Could you provide an example of this please? [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 12:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
No worries if this was just an oversight—happy to discuss further if needed!
:::::[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Glendalough&diff=1253515341&oldid=1253514413 Pushing CoI up, based on related sources], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Glendalough&diff=1253513340&oldid=1253511509 POV], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Glendalough&diff=1253505681&oldid=1252490001 POV], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Glendalough&diff=1252476870&oldid=1248772736 unsourced]. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 13:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

::::::As I have shown, including in the talk section, the see and bishopric of Glendalough has a much longer and continuous history than in the Roman Catholic Church. Glendalough remains a substantive diocese in the Church of Ireland.
K
::::::Why would the recently revived RC honorific come before the much older diocese itself? [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 13:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 13:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::And here again you show your bias by claiming that the CoI-tradition is older then then the Catholic tradition. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 13:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::No. If we take the Reformation as year 0, and assume for argument sake neither is older. The Church of Ireland has continued to use the title and maintained the diocese. But the RC church has not maintained the diocese, and had let the title drop- thereby necessitating a ‘revival’ in 1969. So the CoI diocese has a longer and more substantive use. [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 13:27, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.
:::::::::And again you confirm your bias. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 13:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::You don’t seem capable of engaging in discussion, or defending your points, but just throwing accusations. [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 13:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane [Cahercommaun]
:::::::::::[[WP:NPA]]. Please, stop this. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 13:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:::: https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Again, you’re accusing me of something you’re doing. I’ve engaged in discussion, and you have made bald assertions. [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 13:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Monument Name: Cahercommane
:::::::::::::You only started discussions after your POV was reverted. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 14:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::::https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm
::::::::::::::You’ve made lots of POV edits without discussion. [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 14:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::And you felt the need to follow me around. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 15:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::What’s sauce for the goose… [[User:LODU70|LODU70]] ([[User talk:LODU70|talk]]) 15:48, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.
::::::Even historically, chiefdoms [https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/from-chiefdom-to-state-in-early-ireland/of-settlements-and-boundaries/62C06BF757C7D301C28C56B910E4571B] to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.
::::::I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.
::::::For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.
::::::If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Will check it out.
::::::::No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::objecting to my redirect link.... why? [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::That is clearly stated in the nomination. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::I've just explained why you're mistaken. [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/commane interesting! dictionary describes ''commane'' an alternative form of ''commaun''
:there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. [[User:Kellycrak88|Kellycrak88]] ([[User talk:Kellycrak88|talk]]) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, could you please stop reverting my edits on Tenerife South Airport ? The route Tampere-Tenerife has been closed, they are no longer labelled as 'direct flight' on airBaltic's website. Only routes from Tenerife to Riga, Tallinn and Vilnius have 'direct flight' mark [[Special:Contributions/90.131.39.229|90.131.39.229]] ([[User talk:90.131.39.229|talk]]) 13:56, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you reverted a reference to nonstop year-round service on United for [[Washington-Dulles]] due to non-independent reference. This was taken directly from the airport's official website, so unclear why this is not considered a primary source. Can you elaborate on what should be used instead or why this reference is not acceptable? Looking forward to your response, thank you. [[User:PAE2008|PAE2008]] ([[User talk:PAE2008|talk]]) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
:# I have reverted your edit, as you created a big mess with that edit.
:The issue is that it is not an independent source. The airport has a clear commercial interest in the connection and so in unsuitable as source, Please take a look at [[WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT]]. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">[[User:The Banner|<span style="color:green">The&nbsp;Banner</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The Banner|<i style="color:maroon">talk</i>]]</span> 18:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
:# I have removed the connection with Tampere by now, as you are correct in that. That was the downside of adding an unsuitable ( = non-independent) source to it.
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hey @The Banner you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?

the article's lead says it's "sometimes Cahercommane" which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm

You removed this.

Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.

Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of Tulach Commáin ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).

His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.

No worries if this was just an oversight—happy to discuss further if needed!

K Kellycrak88 (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. The Banner talk 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.
The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane [Cahercommaun]
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Monument Name: Cahercommane
https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm
Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. The Banner talk 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.
Even historically, chiefdoms [1] to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.
I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.
For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.
If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? The Banner talk 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. The Banner talk 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Will check it out.
No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
objecting to my redirect link.... why? Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is clearly stated in the nomination. The Banner talk 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've just explained why you're mistaken. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/commane interesting! dictionary describes commane an alternative form of commaun
there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. Kellycrak88 (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I saw you reverted a reference to nonstop year-round service on United for Washington-Dulles due to non-independent reference. This was taken directly from the airport's official website, so unclear why this is not considered a primary source. Can you elaborate on what should be used instead or why this reference is not acceptable? Looking forward to your response, thank you. PAE2008 (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that it is not an independent source. The airport has a clear commercial interest in the connection and so in unsuitable as source, Please take a look at WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. The Banner talk 18:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]