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Reference 6 has:

< as far as Glogue it climbed continuously at 1 in 40 to 1 in 50, with a final steep section at 1 in 35. After Glogue the line fell with a ruling gradient of 1 in 40. >

but this is nonsense. Crymych is something like 250 feet higher than Glogue. (700 vs. 450, in round numbers). The summit is evidently only a matter of yards (metres, if you must) from Crymych Arms station.

81.131.36.98 (talk) 15:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there's a gradient profile in

Price, Martin R. Connop (1991) [1976]. The Whitland & Cardigan Railway. The Oakwood Library of Railway History (2nd ed.). Headington: Oakwood Press. p. 62. ISBN 0-85361-409-1. OL39.

which shows that the summit is a short level stretch a little to the north of Crymmych Arms. Indeed, the text on page 77 says Beyond Glogue the hills became bleaker and the gradients worsened until just befory Crymmych there was a 500 yd stretch at 1 in 35. and on page 82: North of Crymmych the Cardigan Extension Railway climbed through a deep rock cutting to the summit.

I think that if we change "Glogue" to "Crymmych", giving "as far as Crymmych it climbed continuously at 1 in 40 to 1 in 50, with a final steep section at 1 in 35. After Crymmych the line fell with a ruling gradient of 1 in 40.", it reads more correctly, if not perfectly accurate. But I can't find where these sentences occur in the article, so can't correct it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

. . . in the section labelled 'Topography' in the fourth paragraph from the end of the article proper, i.e. not counting Notes.

WP:OR alert:

Looking again at the 1:25000 map, and taking the OS contours as gospel, the summit was not more than 150 metres north of Crymmych Arms station.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.0&lat=51.97449&lon=-4.64556&layers=10&b=ESRIWorld&o=100&marker=51.975107,-4.645116

The OS put a benchmark, noted as at 714 feet, on the overbridge just north of this point. 81.131.36.98 (talk) 16:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[Special:Contributions/81.131.36.98|81.131.36.98]] ([[User talk:81.131.36.98|talk]]) 15:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
+:Yes, there's a gradient profile in
+:*{{cite book |last=Price |first=Martin R. Connop |title=The Whitland & Cardigan Railway |edition=2nd |series=The Oakwood Library of Railway History |year=1991 |orig-year=1976 |publisher=Oakwood Press |location=Headington |isbn=0-85361-409-1 |id=OL39 |page=62 }}
+:which shows that the summit is a short level stretch a little to the north of Crymmych Arms. Indeed, the text on page 77 says <q>Beyond Glogue the hills became bleaker and the gradients worsened until just befory Crymmych there was a 500 yd stretch at 1 in 35.</q> and on page 82: <q>North of Crymmych the Cardigan Extension Railway climbed through a deep rock cutting to the summit</q>.
+:I think that if we change "Glogue" to "Crymmych", giving "as far as Crymmych it climbed continuously at 1 in 40 to 1 in 50, with a final steep section at 1 in 35. After Crymmych the line fell with a ruling gradient of 1 in 40.", it reads more correctly, if not perfectly accurate. But I can't find where these sentences occur in the article, so can't correct it. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
+::. . . in the section labelled 'Topography' in the fourth paragraph from the end of the article proper, i.e. not counting Notes.
+::WP:OR alert:
+::Looking again at the 1:25000 map, and taking the OS contours as gospel, the summit was not more than 150 metres north of Crymmych Arms station.
+::https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.0&lat=51.97449&lon=-4.64556&layers=10&b=ESRIWorld&o=100&marker=51.975107,-4.645116
+::The OS put a benchmark, noted as at 714 feet, on the overbridge just north of this point. [[Special:Contributions/81.131.36.98|81.131.36.98]] ([[User talk:81.131.36.98|talk]]) 16:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)