Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/New Zealand

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New Zealand

Jonah Chapman

Jonah Chapman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Sources currently cited consist of IMDb and some YouTube channels published by the subject. Searching the name alone turns up unrelated individuals; with some other specifying material added, some promotional material from an agency turns up, but nothing which would indicate notability. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Television, Theatre, Internet, and New Zealand. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:18, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
• Delete Classic WP:COI! At best WP:TOOSOON, but clearly fails WP:SIGCOV. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
• Delete Per nom and above, but also noting the incorrectly disclosed COI. Snowycats (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
• Delete: No sources provided and fail WP:NACTOR. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 08:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

1874 Waitemata by-elections

1874 Waitemata by-elections (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Original BLAR was contested. All the sources in the article are primary and I cannot find any secondary sources.

I am also nominating 1886 Waitemata by-election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for the same reason. Traumnovelle (talk) 10:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and New Zealand. Traumnovelle (talk) 10:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  Could you explain what you mean by the sources being "primary"? They are secondary sources in my eyes. ―Panamitsu (talk) 10:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  WP:NEWSPRIMARY. News reports are primary sources in most cases. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Suggesting that by-elections to the New Zealand Parliament, or the House of Representatives as it was called back then, are not notable is time-wasting behaviour bordering on being disruptive. Schwede66 23:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Elections to the New Zealand Parliament are clearly notable. Paora (talk) 09:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Clearly notable and sufficiently sourced. Number 57 11:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  There is no SNG for by-elections nor elections and the sources are all primary in contradiction to WP:PRIMARY Traumnovelle (talk) 04:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep as a corollary to NPOL, electorates and elections will be notable, it would be illogical otherwise. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  NPOL doesn't apply to electorates and even if it did that wouldn't override that the article violates WP:OR which is a valid deletion reason. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Finding a source is not "original research!" Hugo999 (talk) 02:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

    WP:OR states: 'Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them.' Traumnovelle (talk) 04:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Miz Ima Starr

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WP:BLP of a cabaret performer, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for performers. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show certain specific markers of achievement sourced to a WP:GNG-worthy depth and volume of third-party coverage in reliable sources -- but the only notability claim in evidence here is that Miz Ima Starr exists, and the article is referenced almost entirely to event calendar listings and the self-published websites of venues where she's performed, which aren't support for notability. The only potentially decent source is one newspaper article that is paywalled even in the Wayback Machine archiving link (meaning I can't actually read it to determine if it supports a meaningful notability claim or not), and isn't enough to singlehandedly vault her over GNG all by itself if it's the only GNG-worthy source she's got.
I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better access to archived Australian and New Zealand media than I've got can find enough proper GNG-worthy coverage to salvage it, but nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Australia, and New Zealand. Bearcat (talk) 16:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  I agree with you, @Bearcat, that as it stands, it doesn't meet the GNG with reliable and accessible sources.

  I had a look at the NZ media and I have found one piece in the PastPaper archive, I haven't been successful finding anything through the NZHerald or Stuff. I have found a passing mention to the Australia's Got Talent semi-finals in a journal article in the European Journal of Cultural Studies here, and a couple of other articles from the Australian Arts Review, Star Observer, and an interview with Joy Media, that I don't see currently referenced in the article. There is also some archival media coverage that I cannot access, such as this. Lastly, there is an IMDB page that has the films produced/directed - although I believe this is a disputed use of this source on Wikipedia, so might be best avoided.

  I am not sure whether this will be enough to meet GNG but I am happy to contribute to rewriting and adding these references, if that would help it meet it. Ewhite31 (talk) 12:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete none of the references appear to be secondary and provide significant coverage.

I did find one reference that provides that but I don't believe it is reliable enough for a BLP. Traumnovelle (talk) 05:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Likely PROMO or COI. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 10:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

NZ proposed deletions (WP:PROD)

Rather than discussing PROD-nominees here, it is better to contribute to the talk page for the article nominated for deletion. If you agree with the proposed deletion, you don't have to do anything or you may second the nomination. If you think the article merits keeping, then remove the {{prod}} template and make an effort to improve the article so that it clearly meets the notability and verifiability criteria.

A list of prodded articles with {{WikiProject New Zealand}} tags can be seen at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/Article alerts#Alerts.