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==Merge==
==Merge==
Should i merge this article into [[Abu al-Fida Ismail Ibn Hamwi]]? --[[User:Striver|Striver]] 22:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Should i merge this article into [[Abu al-Fida Ismail Ibn Hamwi]]? --[[User:Striver|Striver]] 22:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:Have merged and provided the Arabic. [[User:Orchid Righteous|Orchid Righteous]] 14:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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{{hatnote|This article is about the geographer and historian, who should not be confused with the 14th-century Shafi scholar [[Ibn Kathir]].}}
seems completely needless, given that they have nothing in common at all. Perhaps an editor would like to explain why anyone would confuse the two?&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User talk:LlywelynII|<span class="texhtml" style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;">Llywelyn<span style="color:gold;">II</span></span>]] 17:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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== Requested move 11 June 2020 ==
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The result of the move request was: '''page moved'''. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 17:50, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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[[:Abu'l-Fida]] → {{no redirect|Abulfeda}} – The most common form, even by excluding the word "crater" on a simple Google search (and "Abulfeda" redirects here already, not to the crater). Encyclopedias seem to mostly use variations on [[Abu al-Fida']], but as said above it's not the most common name outside of them (not even on JSTOR) and Wikipedia is not a specialized encyclopedia so we shouldn't have to use strict or semi-strict transliterations for the sake of using them; also note that his ancestor is called [[Saladin]] here, not ''Salah al-Din'' nor ''Salahu'd-Din''. "Abu'l-Fida" looks like a bizarrely spelt hybrid and is not as common as Abulfeda (compare [https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22Abulfeda%22+-crater Abulfeda -crater: 452] and [https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22Abu%27l-Fida%22 Abu'l-Fida: 203] on JSTOR). [[Special:Contributions/92.184.105.222|92.184.105.222]] ([[User talk:92.184.105.222|talk]]) 13:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

*'''Closing comment''': I note this reverses

22:03, 19 July 2005‎ Quadell talk contribs block‎ 25 bytes +25‎ Abulfeda moved to Abu al-Fida: More standard spelling

which gives no vaid rationale. Quite possibly the ''standard'' referred to here is Arabic rather than English.


There have been several other undiscussed moves. Hopefully this will bring some stability. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 17:50, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
* Have merged and provided the Arabic. [[User:Orchid Righteous|Orchid Righteous]] 14:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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This article is the same published at this address: www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc1/abulfeda

May be they copied Wikipedia? I hope not the contrary. --Cloj 08:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. Is certainly copied from Wikipedia!


Merge

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Should i merge this article into Abu al-Fida Ismail Ibn Hamwi? --Striver 22:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have merged and provided the Arabic. Orchid Righteous 14:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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seems completely needless, given that they have nothing in common at all. Perhaps an editor would like to explain why anyone would confuse the two? — LlywelynII 17:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 June 2020

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 17:50, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Abu'l-FidaAbulfeda – The most common form, even by excluding the word "crater" on a simple Google search (and "Abulfeda" redirects here already, not to the crater). Encyclopedias seem to mostly use variations on Abu al-Fida', but as said above it's not the most common name outside of them (not even on JSTOR) and Wikipedia is not a specialized encyclopedia so we shouldn't have to use strict or semi-strict transliterations for the sake of using them; also note that his ancestor is called Saladin here, not Salah al-Din nor Salahu'd-Din. "Abu'l-Fida" looks like a bizarrely spelt hybrid and is not as common as Abulfeda (compare Abulfeda -crater: 452 and Abu'l-Fida: 203 on JSTOR). 92.184.105.222 (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Closing comment: I note this reverses
 22:03, 19 July 2005‎ Quadell talk contribs block‎  25 bytes +25‎  Abulfeda moved to Abu al-Fida: More standard spelling 

which gives no vaid rationale. Quite possibly the standard referred to here is Arabic rather than English.

There have been several other undiscussed moves. Hopefully this will bring some stability. Andrewa (talk) 17:50, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.