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'''Possibly unfree files''' was for listing and discussing files that are marked as available under a free license or public domain, but have '''disputed source or licensing information'''. Files were listed here for 7 days before they were processed. |
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If an image is unquestionably copied from another website and no assertion of permission or fair use is made, the image may be [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deleted]] under criterion G12. Please tag the image with '''<nowiki>{{subst:db-copyvio|url=</nowiki>''source URL''<nowiki>}}</nowiki>''' and warn the user with {{tl|Nothanks-sd}}. |
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After [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 130#Close down Possibly Unfree Files|community discussion]], consensus was established to shut this process down and have all new nominations handled by [[Wikipedia:Files for discussion]]. |
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Please also notify the uploader so they get a chance to fix the problem(s). The templates {{[[Template:image source|image source]]|Image:Image name.ext}} and {{[[Template:image copyright|image copyright]]|Image:Image name.ext}} are made for this purpose, but feel free to write a message of your own. It is not necessary to warn the uploader about ''every'' individual image if they have uploaded several such images, but at least one message telling them that images without source/license will be deleted should be given to each user. |
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This page is for listing and discussing images that are used under a '''non-free license''' or have '''disputed source or licensing information'''. Images are listed here for 14 days before they are processed. |
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Before listing, check if the image should be listed at [[Wikipedia:Copyright problems]] (if its source is known and it cannot be used under a free license or [[Wikipedia:fair use|fair use]] doctrine) or at [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion]] (if it's simply unneeded). |
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# '''Contact the uploader''' by adding a message to their talk page. You can use <nowiki>{{subst:idw-pui|Image:filename.ext}}</nowiki> (replace filename.ext with the name of the image). If the editor hasn't visited in a while, consider using the "E-mail this user" link. |
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Listings should be processed by an administrator after being listed for 14 days. Images that are accepted following this fourteen-day period should have <tt><nowiki>{{subst:puir}}</nowiki></tt> added to the image page and a copy of the issue and/or discussion that took place here put on the image talk page. |
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'''Note:''' Images can be unlisted immediately if they are undisputably in the public domain or licensed under an indisputably free license (GFDL, CC-BY-SA, etc.—see [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags]] for more on these). Images which claim [[fair use]] must have two people agree to this. |
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==Holding cell== |
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: ''These images have been listed for at least 14 days. Images which have been determined to be acceptable may be removed from this page.'' |
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===March 23=== |
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*[[:Image:Ted kulongoski.jpg]] See Ticket#: 2006121810023211. "You have permission to distribute the Governor's photo far and wide" is not the same as PD. [[User:Kjetil r|Kjetil r]] 02:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC) |
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** Attempting to resolve; awaiting return phone call from the Governor's office. Please do not delete pending resolution. -[[User:Peteforsyth|Pete]] 01:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC) |
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** Heard back from Kristina Edmunson from the Governor's office. Received general permission, and emailed her list of licenses to review. -[[User:Peteforsyth|Pete]] 00:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |
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**If it really is "released without restriction by the Governor's office" then it's copyrightfreeuse... so, unless evidence to the contrary I'd say keep it. [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] [[User talk:Grenavitar|グレン]] 08:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC) |
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**I agree with above, but more clarity would certainly be helpful. I just sent a followup email to the Governor's office, which to my knowledge hasn't yet selected a license. Hopefully a specific license will come soon. -[[User:Peteforsyth|Pete]] 01:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**The image's public domain status was confirmed (below) by the Governor's Communications office. -[[User:Peteforsyth|Pete]] 21:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**:: From: Kristina.Edmunson (email deleted for privacy) |
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**:: Subject: RE: Governor Kulongoski Headshot |
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**:: Date: April 12, 2007 9:37:16 AM PDT |
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**:: To: peteforsyth (email deleted for privacy) |
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**:: Again, I assure you, that this photo is already in the public domain. |
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*** Could you forward that e-mail to <code>permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org</code>? --[[User talk:Iamunknown|Iamunknown]] 05:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**** Done just now, sorry for the delay, and thanks for the reminder. -[[User:Peteforsyth|Pete]] 21:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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==Listings== |
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:''New images should be listed in this section, under today's date. Please be sure to tag the image with an appropriate PUI tag, and notify the uploader. |
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===April 23=== |
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*[[:Image:Carlos andres perez.jpg]] - Description of the image indicate it is not work of the US government. --[[User:Winhunter|WinHunter]] <sup>([[User talk:Winhunter|talk]])</sup> 02:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:PamelaAaa.jpg]] - obviously not a US Gov't image. --[[User:After Midnight|After Midnight]] <sup><small>[[User talk:After Midnight|0001]]</small></sup> 03:19, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**Ditto for [[:Image:MarcosPérezJiménez.gif]], [[:Image:Marcos Pérez Jiménez.gif]], and [[:Image:Angarita.jpg]] all by same user. --[[User:After Midnight|After Midnight]] <sup><small>[[User talk:After Midnight|0001]]</small></sup> 03:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*** All deleted and uploader blocked indefinitely -- uploaded another, [[Image:2Stallone.jpg]], after a final warning. [[User:NawlinWiki|NawlinWiki]] 02:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Diamondcolorj.jpg]] - User claims PD-self, but it's a scan and appears to be from a book or brochure. User has falsely claimed PD-self on [[:Image:H aviewer.jpg]], [[:Image:Sb37-lynch-mckay.jpg]], [[:Image:Brad childress23.jpg]] and [[:Image:Johnson23.JPG]]. [[User:Ytny|Ytny]] ([[User talk:Ytny|talk]]) 12:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**The following images also have unverified claims for PD-self: |
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***[[:Image:Princess cut diamond ring.jpg]] |
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***[[:Image:Shallow deep ideal.jpg]] |
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***[[:Image:Diamondhearts.jpg]] |
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***[[:Image:H a.jpg]] [[User:Ytny|Ytny]] ([[User talk:Ytny|talk]]) 12:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Knobcreeknightshoot.jpg]] - Copyright holder only gives permission for use, not for downstream or derivative use. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 16:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Ralphcameron.jpg]]. The [http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=C000066 image source] shows that this image is owned by the Arizona Historical Society, and thus does not qualify for the public domain as a work of the U.S. Government. A higher resolution image is currently available from commons, and all usage on the English wikipedia has been replaced with the commons image. --''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 17:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Js park.jpg]] ([http://imagebingo.naver.com/album/image_view.htm?uid=sky200420&bno=38421&nid=19304 source]). Image tagged as cc-by-2.5, but taken from a Korean fan blog with no image source info. Unable to verify licensing status. --[[User:Muchness|Muchness]] 17:58, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**[[:Image:Choi hong-man.jpg]] - uploaded by the same user as above, same issue. [[User:Ytny|Ytny]] ([[User talk:Ytny|talk]]) 04:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Lauren_jones_for_fiu_fiu.jpg]] - no indication of release under given license ˉˉ<sup>[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]</sup>[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 19:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:TammySytchAmerica.jpg]] - no indication of release under given license ˉˉ<sup>[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]</sup>[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 19:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:AD193.jpg]] - not public domain ˉˉ<sup>[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]</sup>[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 20:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Fsubk.jpg]] - web resolution, uploaded as first edit of user, could be screenshot of TV commercial for Burger King [[User:Mecu|<font color="CEBE70">'''MECU'''</font>]]≈<small>[[User talk:Mecu|talk]]</small> 23:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC) |
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===April 24=== |
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* [[:Image:Office icon.png]], [[:Image:Heroes TV icon.png]], <s>[[:Image:House Fox icon.png]]</s> - these are cropped versions of <s>the official logo</s> <nowiki>[title screenshots]</nowiki>, and are not free. Additionally, because they were erroneously marked as free they did not show up as violation of fair use policy (in userbox). [[User:Alton|<font color="#808080" size="-1"><b>ALTON</b></font>]] [[User talk:Alton|<font color="#808080">.ıl</font>]] 05:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**replaced [[:Image:House Fox icon.png]] with newly created file |
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**give me one more week, I will try to fix [[User:HokieRNB|HokieRNB]] 20:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Dropdead4.jpg]] - Source ([http://www.kronikenergy.com/teamk_html/Dropdead.htm]) does not support license claim. [[User:Fritz Saalfeld|Fritz Saalfeld]] ([[User talk:Fritz Saalfeld|Talk]]) 11:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Arch_jean_st_irenee.jpg]] - Image source [http://orthodoxwiki.org/Image:Arch_jean_st_irenee.jpg] claims permission for use on that site. Definitely not PD as tagged. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* <s>[[:Image:Lyen wong wiki.jpg]] and [[:Image:Lyen wong wiki4.jpg]] - are listed as being taken by Kolja Platen (aka [[User:Yellowstone]], the uploader), but also have the German Wikipedia mentioned. There ([[:de:Bild:Lyen wong wiki.jpg]]), the photographer is listed as Claus Willemer. On ([[:de:Bild:Lyen_wong_wiki4.jpg]]), it mentions that [[User:Yellowstone]] is the webmaster of Lyen Wong's website. My impression of [[:de:Wikipedia:Löschkandidaten/Bilder/2. Mai 2006|this German diff]] is that there used to be permission for use at http://www.lyenwong.de/wikipedia.html, but the page no longer exists. I have emailed Yellowstone to let them know that these images have been nominated. ~ [[User:BigrTex|<font color="blue">Bigr</font>]][[User Talk:BigrTex|<font color="red">Tex</font>]] 22:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)</s> |
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:Yellowstone has reinstated the page at http://www.lyenwong.de/wikipedia.html proving that Kolja Platen/Yellowstone is the webmaster and can release the images. ~ [[User:BigrTex|<font color="blue">Bigr</font>]][[User Talk:BigrTex|<font color="red">Tex</font>]] 15:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Pauly_Shore_photo.jpg]] - screencap of copyrighted content, no sign of release ˉˉ<sup>[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]</sup>[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 22:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Alexander Lukashenko May 2005.jpg]] - "Free publishing" is not the same as "free for any purpose". --[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 22:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**So close, yet so far again. Man, it feels like I cannot get free photos from the CIS. Anywho, as the uploaded, I just speedied this. There is another photo from the above site existing on the article on former Turkmen President Nyazov, but it is placed at the Commons. [[User:Zscout370]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Zscout370|(Return Fire)]]</sup></small> 01:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Fhyost.jpg]] - No indication of the date the image was published, the copyright owner or the source; no information given to substantiate the ''post mortem'' 100 years claim or even a less restrictive {{tl|PD-US}} claim. [[User talk:Iamunknown|Iamunknown]] 06:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*:: <s>[[:Image:Charles_robb.jpg]] - No source given to verify public domain status [[User talk:Iamunknown|Iamunknown]] 06:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)</s> |
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*::: Source given. --[[User talk:Iamunknown|Iamunknown]] 08:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Ray_O._Wyland.jpg]] - No acknowledgement of copyright holder on the image description page or [http://web.archive.org/web/2/http://studentorg.georgiasouthern.edu/apo/founders/founders.html archive.org.] [[User talk:Iamunknown|Iamunknown]] 06:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Astevenson.jpg]] - No acknowledgement of copyright holder; link is dead. [[User talk:Iamunknown|Iamunknown]] 06:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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=== April 25 === |
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* [[:Image:030507-lg.jpg]] claims own work, but give another source. Unless [[User:Vissuddi]] is Jeremy Yuenger it's invalid. // [[User:Liftarn|Liftarn]] |
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* [[:Image:07-03-17-010 - PS3.jpg]] claims own work, but looks like a promo shot. // [[User:Liftarn|Liftarn]] |
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* [[:Image:2AS.jpg]] claims own work, but is also available on the page [http://images.google.si/imgres?imgurl=http://occult.skywatching.net/ARCH2006/2006.06.23_000002/Pallas_2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://occult.skywatching.net/ARCH2006/2006.06.23_000002/2006.06.23_000002.html&h=200&w=250&sz=7&hl=sl&start=1&tbnid=_75CzF3QtmJV4M:&tbnh=89&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3D2%2Bpallas%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dsl%26sa%3DG occult.skywatching.net]. See also [[User_talk:Acom#Possibly_unfree_Image:2AS.jpg]] --[[User:Eleassar|'''Eleassar''']] <sup>[[User talk:Eleassar|my talk]]</sup> 12:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**The link you provided does not go to the images rather a 404 page. I was around on the day this image was posted and will attest to it being an original work by [[User_talk:Acom|Acom]]. In addition there are a large number of convex hull renderings that have been provided by this user under the GPL to help fill in the gaps of our knowledge with artist impressions of the small solar system bodies. I have for the time being remove the disputed image tag which I will restore momentarily until this matter is settled. [[User:Abyssoft|Abyssoft]] 15:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**The Image listed is archive in Google's image search. If you look closely you will see the two images are rather different; in the rendering of the convex hull, The lower right forward quadrant of the archived copy is different from the one posted by [[User_talk:Acom|Acom]]. [[User:Abyssoft|Abyssoft]] 22:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I'm sorry, but Acom has violated copyrights more than once and we cannot rely simply on your claim. It would help a lot if Acom provided some detail on how he created that image(s). --[[User:Eleassar|'''Eleassar''']] <sup>[[User talk:Eleassar|my talk]]</sup> 12:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Grozny-meshit.jpg]] -- uploader's claim of this being own work seems unlikely. [[User:Jkelly|Jkelly]] 17:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC) |
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=== April 26 === |
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*[[:Image:Frontman.jpg]] - uploader claims that the image is copyrighted and the copyright holder has irrevocably released all rights to it. I see no evidence on the website the the copyright holder has irrevocably released rights to it. [[User:Royalbroil|<font color="#000000">'''Royal'''</font><font color="#FFCC00">'''broil'''</font>]] 01:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Sivan Klein.png]] tagged pd-self, but looks like a screencap to me. --[[User:After Midnight|After Midnight]] <sup><small>[[User talk:After Midnight|0001]]</small></sup> 04:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:MelbCitycourt2.jpg]] - Can't find anything at source to support PD claim. [[User:Fritz Saalfeld|Fritz Saalfeld]] ([[User talk:Fritz Saalfeld|Talk]]) 16:34, 26 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Kojiariyoshi.jpg]] - Tagged GFDL-self, but uploader is not creator of work (although he did crop it). No indication at source that GFDL applies. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 21:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:Uploader here. I was hoping by cropping the picture significantly, that it'd pass as a self-work item. As is, if it doesn't, could it be re-categorized for fair use? [[User: RebelAt|<font color="#3333CC">~ <font size="1" color="red">(The Rebel At)</font> ~</font>]] 23:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::Yes, given that Ariyoshi is dead, you could make a claim under the [[WP:EDP]], but it's still a non-free image. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 02:50, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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=== April 27 === |
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* [[:Image:Breast_implants.jpg]] - {{user|Titan24}} claims {{tl|PD-self}} in what seems to be a continuation of other imagevios which have been deleted. — '''[[User:pd_THOR|<span style="color:#CC0000;">pd_THOR</span>]]''' <sup>|''' [[User_talk:pd_THOR|=/\=]]'''</sup> | 03:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:HTfront.gif]] - Uploader claims PD-self but images are copyrighted logos and newspapers. Has been contacted twice on his talk page but unresponsive. [[User:WindsorFan|WindsorFan]] 18:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**I recommend changing permission to {{tl|Non-free newspaper image}} --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] 09:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Kidderminstershuttlefront.gif]] - Uploader claims PD-self but images are copyrighted logos and newspapers. Has been contacted twice on his talk page but unresponsive. [[User:WindsorFan|WindsorFan]] 18:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**I recommend changing permission to {{tl|Non-free newspaper image}} --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] 09:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Herefordtimemast.gif]] - Uploader claims PD-self but images are copyrighted logos and newspapers. Has been contacted twice on his talk page but unresponsive. [[User:WindsorFan|WindsorFan]] 18:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**I recommend changing permission to {{tl|Non-free newspaper image}} --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] 09:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Wenfront.gif]] - Uploader claims PD-self but images are copyrighted logos and newspapers. Has been contacted twice on his talk page but unresponsive. [[User:WindsorFan|WindsorFan]] 18:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**I recommend changing permission to {{tl|Non-free newspaper image}} --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] 09:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Titles worcesternews.gif]] - Uploader claims PD-self but images are copyrighted logos and newspapers. Has been contacted twice on his talk page but unresponsive. [[User:WindsorFan|WindsorFan]] 18:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**I recommend changing permission to {{tl|Non-free newspaper image}} --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] 09:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Kidderminstershuttlemast.gif]] - Uploader claims PD-self but images are copyrighted logos and newspapers. Has been contacted twice on his talk page but unresponsive. [[User:WindsorFan|WindsorFan]] 18:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**I recommend changing permission to {{tl|Non-free newspaper image}} --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] 09:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Fireflyallianceflag.jpg]] - Appears to be derivative image from [[Firefly (TV series)|''Firefly'']] and non-releaseable into public domain. — '''[[User:pd_THOR|<span style="color:#CC0000;">pd_THOR</span>]]''' <sup>|''' [[User_talk:pd_THOR|=/\=]]'''</sup> | 20:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Mohammadreza Shah.jpg]]- A nice picture but unfortunately does not have copyright permission. --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 22:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::Copyright permission is not required for a fair use claim, and this one is obviously valid. The website where the image was obtained also does not own the copyright to it no matter what it claims. According to [http://www.parstimes.com/law/copyright_law.html Iranian copyright law], unchanged since 1970 according to {{PDFlink|[http://www.wipo.int/about-ip/en/ipworldwide/pdf/ir.pdf WIPO]}}, the term of protection for photography or for any work where it "belongs to a person of legal position" (such as, say, the Shah) is 30 years from the date of publication. See Part III, Article 16. If this photo was made and published before 1977, which IMO is the most likely, it's PD. It would be better if someone could find out when that was, of course, but although it's a very common portrait no one seems to be saying. ''[[User:Csernica|TCC]]'' <small>[[User_talk:Csernica|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Csernica|(contribs)]]</small> 01:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Alternatively we could write to Her Majesty [[Farah Pahlavi]], from whose website the picture was downloaded, and ask Her for permission to use it on a free license. :)) In 3 years it will be PD anyway. --[[User:BotevFixer|BotevFixer]] 09:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Phamthimaiphuong.jpg]], [[:Image:Phan Thu Ngan.jpg]], [[:Image:NguyenDieuHoa.jpg]], [[:Image:Mai-phuong-thuy.jpg]] - All uploaded by [[User:Fairplayworld|Fairplayworld]] and tagged {{tl|PD-self}}, but all from http://vietbao.vn. --[[User:After Midnight|After Midnight]] <sup><small>[[User talk:After Midnight|0001]]</small></sup> 23:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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=== April 28 === |
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* [[:Image:Arsacidedynasty.jpg]] claims to be self-created public domain image, but it has been clearly published somewhere and there is no source.--[[User:Desafio|Desafio]] 16:20, 28 April 2007 (UTC) |
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=== April 29 === |
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* [[:Image:Ian_excel_bigbro.jpg]] - Copyrighted screenshot claimed as self created. [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] [[User_talk:Nv8200p|talk]] 01:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:IlanChester.jpg]] - Looks like a copyrighted news photo. [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] [[User_talk:Nv8200p|talk]] 01:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::Yep: it's from [http://www.kysfm.com/portal/index.php?op=pagina&pid=426 here]. ''Copyright 2003-2005 © KysFM''.[[User:Tearlach|Tearlach]] 04:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Indknt.jpg]] - No indication that copyright holder has given permission to release under GFDL. [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] [[User_talk:Nv8200p|talk]] 02:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:RonaldEnroth.PNG]] - Copyright holder hasn't actually released into the public domain; just given permission to the uploader to scan the book and post it online. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 02:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:05_14_07title.gif]] - Claims fair use with a GFDL tag. [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] [[User_talk:Nv8200p|talk]] 02:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:074.JPG]] - Nintendo screenshot. Doubtful it was licensed under GFDL. [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] [[User_talk:Nv8200p|talk]] 02:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:075.JPG]] - Nintendo screenshot. Doubtful it was licensed under GFDL. [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] [[User_talk:Nv8200p|talk]] 02:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:SanchezWithCoulter-w.jpg]] - low resolution, web quality, no metadata, unique location that use most likely did not have access to [[User:Mecu|<font color="CEBE70">'''MECU'''</font>]]≈<small>[[User talk:Mecu|talk]]</small> 14:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:SaintLouisSeal.gif]] - Source states: "Copyright © [St. Louis Board of Public Service]". Not a US Federal Government product. — '''[[User:pd_THOR|<span style="color:#CC0000;">pd_THOR</span>]]''' <sup>|''' [[User_talk:pd_THOR|=/\=]]'''</sup> | 00:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Rme043.JPG]], [[:Image:Rme71.JPG]], [[:Image:Rme032.JPG]], [[:Image:Rme017.JPG]], [[:Image:OLA Spain2007.jpg]], [[:Image:OLA Manila2007.jpg]] and many more images uploaded by {{userlinks|Dellquez}}. Copyright dubious, as names on photo credits don't match that of the uploader, who asserts being the creator and releasing them to public domain. [[User:Tearlach|Tearlach]] 01:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Brats in school.jpg]] — tagged as being a work of the US government, but it's from a school web site. The source information should be clarified to explain why this is a work of the US government. —[[User:Remember the dot|Remember the dot]] <sup>([[User talk:Remember the dot|talk]])</sup> 02:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::Tracked that down just now. The image host is off the US DOD servers, the privacy policy page notes that all photos appearing on the site (exept for those created by the children) are released to the public domain as a work of the US Government. You can check if you like to confirm, But I think that this one is ok. [[User:TomStar81|TomStar81]] ([[User talk:TomStar81|Talk]]) 02:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::The school website is from the Department of Defense---it's a Department of Defense Dependent school. Not public high school like the ones in your local neighborhood.[[User:Balloonman|Balloonman]] 04:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:::OK, thanks for the clarification. I've removed the PUI notices. —[[User:Remember the dot|Remember the dot]] <sup>([[User talk:Remember the dot|talk]])</sup> 16:30, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:4519.jpg]] - licensed as promotional, but source is a real estate blog. <font color="#08457E" vlink="#08457E"><b>[[User:Tomtheman5|tiZom]]</b></font><sub><font color="black">[[User talk:Tomtheman5|(2¢)]]</font></sub> 19:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Chinapyongyangimjin.jpg]] - If this is copyrighted, the image is not free use. If this is not copyrighted, we need to know a source to verify it. [[User:Komdori|Komdori]] 19:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Battleofhaengju.jpg]] - says it was listed here, but it was not; been sitting with "somewebsite" link for several periods. (In this case, image is likely not old enough, and no copyright source specified.) [[User:Komdori|Komdori]] 19:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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===April 30=== |
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*The following images are all licensed for non-commercial educational use only, but have been "grandfathered" since the speedy deletion criteria for such images only apply for images uploaded after 19 May 2005. This does not mean they are excempt from the license policy though, just that they can't be speedily deleted. Hence listing them here, these are all the images tagged with {{tl|Brazilian Olympic Committee Image}}, a template we need to delete as well once these are done. Each of these images must be re-tagged with an apropriate non-free (aka fair use) tag and supplied with a valid [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline|fair use rationale]] or be deleted (or if someone can convince the Brazilian Olymic Comitee to change theyr license practice that would be good too). --[[User:Sherool|Sherool]] <span style="font-size:75%">[[User talk:Sherool|(talk)]]</span> 23:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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**[[:Image:Guilheiro bronze.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Canto bronze.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Beach silver.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Scheidt gold.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Beach gold2.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Football silver.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Equestrian silver.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Sailing gold2.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Athletics bronze.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Volleyball gold.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Diogo fourth.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Natalia fourth.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Brazil fourth.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Winicki fourth.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Basketball fourth.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Vanderlei Coubertin.jpg]] |
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**[[:Image:Vanderlei and Kossivas.jpg]] |
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*[[:Image:Koguryo.jpg]] - claims GFDL, but no evidence of it; linked webpage says used with courtesy, which doesn't seem like free/GFDL. [[User:Komdori|Komdori]] 23:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Cisco.Certified.Network.Associate.Logo.png]] - claims fair use, but I am requesting a second opinion, preferably from an expert, or from a representative of [[Cisco Systems|the owner]] of the image. Although the use of a low-resolution image of a logo or trademark to illustrate a topic on the non-profit Wikipedia website is ''generally'' considered to be fair use, the presence of the [[CCNA]] logo on Wikipedia arguably does not really contribute to the public understanding of the subject matter. [[Wikipedia:fair use]] says that an image "'''must''' contribute '''significantly''' to the article" in order for it to comply with Wikipedia policy; furthermore, the logo is protected by both copyright law and trademark law. For these reasons it seems the benefit of keeping the image is minimal as compared with the potential that it could possibly infringe the rights of the owner. [[User:69.140.164.142|69.140.164.142]] 04:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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===May 1=== |
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* [[:Image:Bangles.jpg]] - tag claims {{tl|cc-by-sa-2.5}} but the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/surajram/50261682/ source] says it's a non-commercial image. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*<s> [[:Image:NZ_Stewart_Island.png]] appears to modified version of a likely copyrighted image. There is no information as to the source of the original map image. --[[User:Limegreen|Limegreen]] 11:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> |
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::The above image was modified by me, original image sourced from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:New_Zealand_map.PNG] Please either remove the notice from the image page or notify me so as I can do so. Thankyou.</s> |
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::Happy to accept it's free. It's still redundant with [[:Image:Stewart_Island-Rakiura.png]], but that is not an issue for here.--[[User:Limegreen|Limegreen]] 12:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Dublinflag.gif]] - contradictory license tags. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 12:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Cuscatlan flag.png]] - contradictory license tags. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 12:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Flag of Rodrigues.gif]] - contradictory license tags. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 12:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Int-ecwa.gif]] - contradictory license tags. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 12:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Masuimi3.jpg]] - image appears to be a professionally posed and photographed image. This would generally indicate a non-free image. User who uploaded it has only two contributions, the upload and the edit to the [[Masuimi Max]] article. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 13:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:50ecko.jpeg]] Image was taken from www.marceckoenterprises.com, and uploader claims it has been released to the public domain. <font color="#08457E" vlink="#08457E"><b>[[User:Tomtheman5|tiZom]]</b></font><sub><font color="black">[[User talk:Tomtheman5|(2¢)]]</font></sub> 16:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Microfiche .jpg]] - Taken from a website; no evidence that the user runs that site. [[User:Grendelkhan|grendel]]|[[User_talk:Grendelkhan|khan]] 18:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Microfiche reader.jpg]] - Taken from a website; website says "all rights reserved". [[User:Grendelkhan|grendel]]|[[User_talk:Grendelkhan|khan]] 18:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Microfilmroll.jpg]] - Taken from a website; no evidence that the user runs that site. [[User:Grendelkhan|grendel]]|[[User_talk:Grendelkhan|khan]] 18:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Microfilmreader.JPG]] - Taken from a website; no evidence that the user runs that site. [[User:Grendelkhan|grendel]]|[[User_talk:Grendelkhan|khan]] 18:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
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===May 2=== |
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* [[:Image:Campusview.JPG]], [[:Image:Campusview2.JPG]] - I can't find a pixel-for-pixel source for these, but both images appear in a [http://www.reading.ac.uk/web/FILES/student_recruitment/200703_ColourWhiteknightsCampusSelfGuidedTour.pdf copyrighted tour guide] (PDF) of Reading University. Uploading user's other image contributions are mostly or wholly copyvios. — [[User:Mholland|mholland]] [[User_talk:Mholland|(talk)]] 10:24, 2 May 2007 (UTC) |
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===May 3=== |
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* [[:Image:KBSansiattack.jpg]] - Screenshot of a drama about an event used to describe the event. [[User:Komdori|Komdori]] 01:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:E3 5 4a sassanian.jpg]] - Seems to be from here [http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/03/hm3_5_4a.html] rather than its supposed source. |
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*[[:Image:Iranian Woman Parthian Shot.jpg]] - While it is taken from CAIS, see here[http://www.u.arizona.edu/~memcinto/archery/amazon_rider.htm]. It is probably not fair use, much less GFDL. [[User:The Behnam|The Behnam]] 19:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Candaceillusion.gif]] - Appears to be generated from scenes in [[Heroes (TV series)|''Heroes'']], certainly not {{tl|PD-self}}-qualifying. — '''[[User:pd_THOR|<span style="color:#CC0000;">pd_THOR</span>]]''' <sup>|''' [[User_talk:pd_THOR|=/\=]]'''</sup> | 20:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:*While obviously not pd-self the image itself was taken from the Heroes Wiki. Fair use in its entirety. –– '''[[User:Lid|Lid]]'''<sup><small>([[User talk:Lid|Talk]])</small></sup> 05:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* Images from the City of Thousand Oaks: These are not works of the U.S. federal government (as tagged. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 00:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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**[[:Image:Thousand Oaks Library 1.jpeg]] |
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**[[:Image:Thousand Oaks Library 2.jpeg]] |
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**[[:Image:Thousand Oaks Library 3.jpeg]] |
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**[[:Image:Thousand Oaks Library 4.jpeg]] |
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**[[:Image:Civic Arts Plaza 1.jpeg]] |
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**[[:Image:Civic Arts Plaza 2.jpeg]] |
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**[[:Image:Civic Arts Plaza 3.jpeg]] |
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===May 4=== |
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*[[:Image:Goblu.jpg]] is clearly stated to be a map produced by the [[U.S. state]] of [[Michigan]] in the article it illustrates ([[Goblu and Beatosu]]), but is incorrectly labeled as US Govt work (and hence a free license) which it is not. [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] 11:32, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:Hmm. So what would be the correct nomenclature? [[User:RMc|RMc]] 12:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:MN00623A.jpg]] claims to be a U.S. Government work, while the subject matter clearly is a British driving licence, so it's either Crown Copyright or non-free (not sure whether the UK licence design is subject to copyright). [[User:Doco|'''doco''']] [[User talk:Doco|(<font color="red">☏</font>)]] 12:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:905887624.jpg]] claims to be GNU self license, which is highly unlikely. Clearly a professional promo/ad photo with copyright of some sort. |
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*[[:Image:Martyfriedman420.jpg]] same as previous image, but smaller. Same reason. Also, ending number is a refernce to [[420 (cannabis culture)|4:20]], which is highly irrelevant (this point is maybe irrelevant in this discussion also, I don't know). |
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*[[:Image:Johnmckenziegoal.jpeg]] marked as GFDL-self, but appears to be a photograph of a photograph. [[User:Ytny|Ytny]] ([[User talk:Ytny|talk]]) 14:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Sarge.GIF]] is tagged with a free license even though it is clearly a [[Template:Non-free television screenshot|screenshot of a copyrighted TV show]]. - [[User:Super48|Super48]] 19:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:345931770_l.jpg]] - this image appears to be a non-free image and not the PD-self it is tagged with [[User:Gay Cdn]] <small>[[User talk:Gay Cdn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Gay Cdn|(Contr)]]</small> 22:38, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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===May 5=== |
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* [[:Image:Gorerage.jpg]] - No evidence that this is a USGov image at all. Taken from a non-USGov website that does not claim it is a USGov image. --[[user:tom|Tom]] ([[User talk:Tom|talk]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Tom|email]]) 00:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Zubiri.jpg]] - Tagged with {{tl|PD-Philippines}}, which discusses old works, but makes no mention of government works. [[User:BigDT|BigDT]] 05:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Curtis-Bush.jpg]] - This appears to be a scan from a newspaper or magazine [[User:Gay Cdn]] <small>[[User talk:Gay Cdn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Gay Cdn|(Contr)]]</small> 12:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Eastern European Hedgehog.jpg]] seems to be the restult of a sloppy transwiki job. The image may well be free licensed, unfortunately the only source info provided is "Lithuanian version of Wikipedia" but despite my best efforts I can find no such image there. None of the articles that use the image have links to any lithuanian version. Commons have a copy of the image, but it was copied from us, not ltWiki, so long storry short: We have no idea who took this photo or what license they released it under. Unless anyone can track down the original image on ltWiki this should be deleted as unverifiable. --[[User:Sherool|Sherool]] <span style="font-size:75%">[[User talk:Sherool|(talk)]]</span> 16:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Czartoryski Wlodzimierz.jpg]] - I don't believe that this old, black-and-white image was originally photographed by the uploader. Licence tag has changed since original (deleted) upload too. [[User_talk:Redvers|❛]]'''<font color="red">[[User:Redvers|ʀϵɒv϶ʁƨ]]</font>'''[[User_talk:Redvers|❜]] 20:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Czartoryski Pawel.jpg]] - I don't believe that this image was originally photographed by the uploader. Licence tag has changed since original (deleted) upload too. [[User_talk:Redvers|❛]]'''<font color="red">[[User:Redvers|ʀϵɒv϶ʁƨ]]</font>'''[[User_talk:Redvers|❜]] 20:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Oklahoma City2.jpg]] - The image is tagged {{tl|GFDL-no-disclaimers}} but is identical to the photo [http://www.clubzone.com/events/event42610.html] used to advertise Oklahoma City’s [[29 December]] [[2006]] "Party Gras." --[[User:Kralizec!|Kralizec!]] ([[User talk:Kralizec!|talk]]) 03:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Coloripodshuffles.jpg]] - not from a press kit [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 08:14, 6 May 2007 (UTC) |
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===May 6=== |
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*[[:Image:RobinsonBear.JPG]] is tagged as {{tl|PD-self}} even though it is clearly a screenshot of copyrighted game. - [[User:Super48|Super48]] 16:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:CWMcD1997.jpg]] and [[:Image:CWMcD+SheepDolly.jpg]] have been uploaded as GFDL by the copyright holder, but with the proviso that "The image may be used as long as the name and reputation of Capers W. McDonald are treated with respect. The image's inclusion on Wikipedia will not result in financial loss to any copyright holder." This is incompatible with the GFDL licence. --[[User:Kingboyk|kingboyk]] 22:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:Anuj_smart.jpg]] - Looks like a promo photo, probably not free [[User:BigDT|BigDT]] 22:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* [[:Image:OctopusNAS1.jpg]] Image taken from [http://library.thinkquest.org/12307/propagan.html], i.e. the Thinkquest website. Well, they are a website for student essays, not the source of the picture. [[User:Dr Zak|Dr Zak]] 00:54, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:*This is an example of Nazi propaganda, dated around 1938. [http://library.thinkquest.org/12307/propagan.html] We don't claim it as a free image, but as an historic poster, so I'm unclear about the point of this entry. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 01:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:*It's from the Library of Congress, according to this source, [http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/ARTPROP.HTM] which says "Antisemitic cartoon by Seppla (Josef Plank)--An octopus with a Star of David over its head has its tentacles encompassing a globe. Credit: Library of Congress, courtesy of USHMM Photo Archives. Date: Circa 1938" [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 01:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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::*Ah, and suddenly it's more credible. [[User:Dr Zak|Dr Zak]] 01:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:::*Perhaps in future, you could take a quick look on Google before tagging images for deletion. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 01:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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::::*Perhaps even you can properly source and credit images when you upload them. [[User:Dr Zak|Dr Zak]] 01:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:*More info from the Library of Congress. [http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/churchill/interactive/_html/wc0213.html] [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 01:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:::: Some aspects of human history would make some people feel uncomfortable. WP has many historic political posters, I don't see any problem with this one. Doesn't seem like a good faith nomination. ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну]][[Special:Contributions/Humus_sapiens|?]]</sup> 01:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:Pbpic907668.jpg]] is tagged as PD-self, however it clearly has a website logo on it. Also uploader claims that because it was on display at an event it is public domain. Personally, I'm not convinced of that statement. -- [[User:Malo|malo]] <small>[[User_talk:Malo|(tlk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Malo|(cntrbtns)]]</small> 02:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*[[:Image:DerSturmer stand.jpg]]. Picture of a ''Stürmerkasten''. Source given are two websites, none of which tell who the photographer might be or what archive this might have come from. [[User:Dr Zak|Dr Zak]] 03:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:*Humus sapiens questions Dr Zak's attempt to delete a Nazi image above, so now Dr Zak has found a Nazi image uploaded by Humus sapiens' to nominate for deletion. This isn't the first time he's done this. These are probably PD images, but for our purposes are labeled non-free historical images; and we're using them for educational purposes, not simply to illustrate pages for frivolous reasons. If you want to help track down the original source or the author, Dr Zak, please do; the help would be welcome. But please stop the vindictive WP:POINTs. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 04:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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::*Can we now get back to discussing the image, please?! When you have nothing to say about the issue you have a go at the contributor instead, and others have observed that as well. [[User:Dr Zak|Dr Zak]] 04:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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::*Ah, and another thing: it's not my fault that stuff from That Era hasn't fallen out of copyright yet. By the way, the ''Stiftung Preußischer Kulturbesitz'' has a couple ''Stürmerkāsten''. All of them watermarked unfortunately, if they hadn't been, I'd have uploaded one myself. [[User:Dr Zak|Dr Zak]] 04:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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