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== Re:RtP ==
== Whitewashing page. ==


Hi Erik, I see you reversed my edit on the whitewashing page, describing my edit as a personal analysis. You are incorrect there, it wasn't. The nature of Heathcliff has had essays written on for decades, it is ambiguous (and more down to class) as any good English student knows, but articles written by such in Deadline are written from a particular point of view with an axe to grind and poor knowledge of the book (probably British literature in general). Yet that's where Wiki lays it's hat. I did have trepidation of even getting involved in such a lopsided page, I thought it would have it's guardians. I won't be making any more edits there.[[User:Halbared|Halbared]] ([[User talk:Halbared|talk]]) 15:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
I can't see anyting "missing", but I see plenty to clean up. But, you asked for missing, as I'm sure you're more than aware of what needs cleaning. I don't see anything major. I wouldn't say "expand this section" as I'm sure it's already in the back of your mind. I mean, there are plenty of tags on the article for that. Overall, I think it looks decent for just a days worth of work. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 20:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


:Your edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Whitewashing_in_film&diff=prev&oldid=1261706521 here] wrote, ''"Heathcliff is described in the novel has having varying features and possibly a Lascar, Spanish or American, it is kept vague depending on who is doing the describing"''. This was the explanation for removing the ''[[Deadline Hollywood]]'' content, right? Is that not a personal analysis, however educated it may be? Yes, it's a tricky topic, and it has gotten unsourced and badly-sourced listings that should be cleared out, and there will be edge cases to work through. When anyone edits, they have to expect their edit to be challenged. We can go through [[WP:DR]] if you want. [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 16:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:Took only a brief glance, consider combining "Development" with "Writing" and "Filming" with "Cinematography", for a more fulfilling read. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


:To follow up, it appears that the listing was unwarranted anyway because filming has not even started, so I removed it on that basis. If it is produced, though, and whitewashing still discussed in reliable sources, it can be relisted. [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 16:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
::I'd say "Filming" and "Cimematography", and the idea behind both is similar, but not "development". You could probably remove the "development" title. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 20:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


== Hi Erik, I hope when you're Online you can consider the cult films I'm going to mention: ==
:::That's fine. I never really took the time out to view the film. I think I'll try to do that soon. If you can expand the "filming" and "cinemat" sections I think they'll be fine. If you put casting info in the "cast and characters" section, yeah I think it will be just fine. I don't think its too large to merge in the plot section, but again, if you put the casting info there then it's just as good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 12:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


Cult films often gain their status due to a combination of factors, including unique storytelling, unconventional themes, memorable performances, or even a certain level of controversy. Here's a brief overview of why some of the films you mentioned are considered cult classics:
::::I love ''The Descent''. I've been watching so many horror films since my childhood that it's hard to get me into any suspense, and that claustrophobia he created was intense. Even without the monsters he had a very suspenseful film. I love ''Dog Soldiers'' too, matter of fact, I recently watched both and when I get the time (in the next decade, because of all the ''Smallville'' and ''F13'' work) I want to go through the commentaries and see about expanding the articles. Stupid school, why must we learn and get full time jobs...why can't someone pay us to work on Wikipedia. lol. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 14:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
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1. Cruising (1980): Its controversial portrayal of the gay community and exploration of sexuality sparked debate, leading to a reevaluation over time.


2. Elizabethtown (2005): Initially criticized for its tone and pacing, it has gained a following for its quirky characters and heartfelt moments.
I think one skill I have learned to "master" (so to speak), is determing reliable sources. I have a far more critical eye now, than I did before, when I was writing research papers. I try to write them now, and I sit there and go "i would never use this on Wikipedia, why would I use it here". <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 14:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


3. Shin Godzilla (2016): A modern take on the Godzilla franchise that reflects contemporary societal issues, it has garnered appreciation for its political commentary.
:Yeah. I've found that all entertainment articles are pretty much looked down upon, and when one reaches FA status I like to think that's one more point on the board in our favor. Also, I think working on here helps one not only find reliable sources, but be able to pull relevant content from them a little better. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 14:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


4. Anomalisa (2015): This stop-motion film's exploration of loneliness and existentialism resonates with many viewers, making it a standout in animation.
::Yeah, Shawshank is more respected as a film than any Spider-Man, although I would love to have a Trilogy of FAs with all the Spidey films. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 15:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


5. The Emperor's New Groove (2000): Initially underperformed at the box office but became beloved for its humor and distinct style, appealing to both kids and adults.
:::Cool. I hope you enjoy it. Heck, I hope I enjoy it for having to sit there for over 3 hours. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 16:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


6. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001): While it didn't achieve commercial success, its adventurous spirit and unique animation style have earned it a dedicated fanbase.
I am curious - do they also render sound effects (swords clashing, boats creaking) and just how do they caption love scenes? :) - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 18:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


7. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002): Its artistic animation and themes of freedom resonate with audiences, leading to a lasting appreciation.
Why haven't you linked the production notes? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 18:20, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


8. Rise of the Guardians (2012): This film's imaginative premise and ensemble of beloved characters have helped it cultivate a loyal following.
You already listed Empire's feature. All good then. I saw a bit of the movie on TV, very beautiful and cool: not cool like slick, but temperature and colour. I hope you get what I mean. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


9. ParaNorman (2012): Its blend of horror and humor, along with themes of acceptance, has made it a favorite among animation fans.
:Nothing specific. I think all improvements will come after you expand the release section, and most likely any other sections that are thin will be filled in by the commentary. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 20:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


10. Bee Movie (2007): The film's absurd premise and meme culture have contributed to its cult status despite mixed initial reviews.
==The Dark Knight==
Please write me off-list asap. An opportunity has presented itself for some insider info. [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 00:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


11. Flushed Away (2006): While not a box office hit, its clever humor and animation style have garnered it a niche audience.
==Ben Hur & Alientraveller==
I agree that usually images on film pages shouldn't be popping everywhere. What I am describing here is the differences in versions of the released titles. They are very different and visual identification of each title is very useful; hence the images. Also, as I pointed out earlier the images are very small to offer less obtrusiveness. As for calling Alientraveller's edit vandalism and not in good faith; that was the logical conclusion when I asked for him stop the reverts and discuss; which he did not do. Thanks for your time. [[User:FrankWilliams|FrankWilliams]] 14:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


12. Madagascar (2005): The film's quirky characters and comedic elements have made it a beloved family favorite.
Ok, I agree using vandal may have been harsh; but he still should have used the discussion pages. I'll change the wording in the article so it reflects the critical commentary point you're making. I really thing the image are good for the article which is always my interest. [[User:FrankWilliams|FrankWilliams]] 15:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


13. Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003): Despite its initial box office struggles, it has gained appreciation for its animation and storytelling.
== Regarding The Happening not being and Hindu-American film. ==


14. Jennifer's Body (2009): Initially dismissed as a teen horror film, it has since been re-evaluated for its feminist themes and dark humor.
I do not know how to make citations, but here http://in.rediff.com/movies/2007/mar/15night.htm is the link that confirms that the Indian production company UTV is co-producing with 20th Century Fox to make this film.


15. Camera Buff (1970): A Polish film that critiques media and society, it has gained recognition for its artistic merit.
== Up is down ==


16. Los Olvidados (1950): A powerful social commentary on poverty in Mexico, it has been embraced by cinephiles for its artistic significance.
Oh I'll agree with you at how macabre it was: the sailor who got extreme frostbite and Sparrow's mum choked me up. I ranked it better as DMC because it did have more a point being the climax, (*cough*no cannibals*cough*) but as much as I love extended universe COTBP tops it for me being just an enjoyable ghost story. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


17. Pinocchio (1940), Bambi (1942), Sleeping Beauty (1959), Alice in Wonderland (1951), The Lady and the Tramp (1955): These Disney classics have transcended generations, becoming nostalgic favorites for their animation and storytelling.
== Re: Up, up and away web ==


18. A Goofy Movie (1995): Its relatable father-son themes and catchy music have made it an enduring favorite among fans.
Actually, right now, I think it's easily GA. It's definitely not FA material, but GA's are for well written articles that still need work. I don't think anyone would find fault the quality of the article. As for casting, yeah we should look into that. We could put it with the "Cast and characters" section, this way if it isn't that much information it's still got a home. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 13:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


19. Perfect Blue (1997): This psychological thriller has gained a significant following for its complex narrative and influence on later works.
:Since we are dealing with all the films, we may want to limit it to what they win, otherwise the list will be ginormous. We could always create another subheading under "Development", something like "contracts" (or anything that conveys the same meaning) that details the contract issue (e.g. Dunst, Maguire, Franco = 3, Raimi only had a 1 picture deal initially, etc). <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 13:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


20. Millennium Actress (2001): An acclaimed anime that blends history and personal narrative, celebrated for its emotional depth.
I think for the "Film series" bit we can add some stuff on the production, given that is the ongoings of a film series, rather than a third-perspective reception. On another note, from the ''Making the Amazing'' DVD documentary for the second film, [[Laura Ziskin]] noted Raimi basically moved onto the second film right after the first was finished. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


21. Tokyo Godfathers (2003): A unique holiday film that combines humor and heartwarming moments has earned it a dedicated audience.
Shawshank is something I've been meaning for one day. Schedule swamps though: ''Titanic'' is ten this year, so that'll be centre of my attention. I'll saw how you do your thang first, and I'll try to expand if necessary once I view the DVD. I certainly think it was subtitled, but don't take my word for it, I only viewed them a few years ago. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


22. Angel's Egg (1985): This surreal anime film is appreciated for its artistic visuals and ambiguous storytelling.
:I'd go for that. We can still include some book information if need be, and a small bit about the games, since they were technically adaptations of the films. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 19:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


23. Megamind (2010): Its subversion of superhero tropes and clever humor have helped it find a loyal fanbase.
== ET ==


24. When the Wind Blows (1986): A poignant anti-war animated film that resonates with audiences for its emotional depth.
Well there's no way it'll reach June 11, but there is Halloween. Anyway, yeah, ''Tintin'''s ok, lead takes up too much though. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


25. On the Silver Globe (1988): A visually striking film that faced censorship, gaining recognition as an avant-garde classic.
There's a lot I did, a few I couldn't do. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


26. Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! (Átame) (1989): Pedro Almodóvar's provocative narrative has earned it a cult following for its bold themes.
Thanks for all your help. Did you take a degree in English btw? Or am I just Aspergerish with my writing? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


27. Pump Up the Volume (1990): Its portrayal of teenage rebellion and the power of voice resonates with young audiences.
I replied on the talk page. Take your pick of either Spielberg or Rambaldi and their creation. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


28. Jawbreaker (1999): A darkly comedic take on high school dynamics that has become a favorite among fans of teen films.
If you've got some of them, thanks very much. I'll try to find a balance, but like science-fiction films themselves, I try to connect themes and subtleties within the practical problems of creating an alien. I did consider a themes section actually but decided against it due to lack of material. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


29. The Doors (1991): While divisive among critics, it has gained appreciation for its portrayal of Jim Morrison and the band's legacy.
Oh right, I see, I just assumed they were avaliable online. Sorry. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 10:42, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


30. What About Bob? (1991): This comedy's quirky characters and memorable quotes have led to its status as a beloved classic.
Thank you amigo. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


31. Color of Night (1994): Known for its erotic elements and campy dialogue, it has developed a following for its unintentional humor.
You are very welcome to expand the themes section if you wish. I abide by [[WP:OWN]]. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


32. The Human Centipede trilogy: Notorious for its shock value, these films have attracted viewers interested in extreme horror.
Let's see how you do though, if you have time away from the ''[[Road to Perdition]]''. If you want you can bullet point the articles for me. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


33. The Crush (1993), Fear (1996): Both films feature intense psychological themes that resonate with audiences drawn to thrillers.
== Jurassic Park franchise ==


34. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993): Regarded as one of the best Batman adaptations, it has gained critical acclaim over time.
The problem with [[Jurassic Park franchise]] is structuring it. Crichton wrote a script treatment in novel form that got snapped up by Spielberg, who in turn asked him to wrote another novel/treatment for the sequel. After that it was a film series that hit a wall making a fourth film. It can't be as conventional as [[Spider-Man film series]]. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


35. The Fountain (2006): Its ambitious storytelling and visual style have led to a dedicated fanbase despite mixed initial reactions.
Well the article doesn't interest me being that my view is Crichton wrote script treatments, not books, and if it is just the films then count me out. ½ of a trilogy is not something I want to edit on. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


36. Event Horizon (1997): A sci-fi horror film that has become a cult favorite for its unsettling atmosphere and themes.
Not even a plot summary? LOL. Well I do love to work within guidelines as much as possible, so thank you for that compliment over my structuring. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


37. In & Out (1997): Its comedic take on identity and acceptance resonates with audiences seeking lighthearted yet meaningful narratives.
== Aquaman and that other DC guy ==


38. Gia (1998): Angelina Jolie's performance in this biopic about supermodel Gia Carangi has garnered lasting admiration.
Thanks for coming back to Aquaman, I was thinking everyone forgot about it..lol. Anyway, so I'm finally sitting down and watching (er..listening) the commentary for the ''Smallville'' pilot (and the second episode right after that) and I discovered something you'd appreciate. They actually subtitled their commentary, so it's much easier to follow and get things spelled correctly. I just thought that was nice, and that I'd share...you know...in case you suddenly develop a liking of Superman ..lol. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 23:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


39. Can't Hardly Wait (1998): A quintessential teen film that captures the essence of high school life, leading to nostalgic appeal.
:Yeah, I'm hoping Raul closes it soon. Not that I'm worried about people opposing it, but it really isn't getting any new traffic. Right now I'm working with a bunch of editors on a Television taskforce. We're hoping to curb this problem of episode articles that can never meet criteria for existence. It seems to be going well. We are trying to keep it in a close community until we can all agree on what would be considered fair. Then when we have it all set, we're going to notify the rest of the wiki community to get a broader opinion. This way we don't have 1000 hands in the cookie jar at the same time. Let me know when you put ''FC'' up for FAC. I don't think you'll have too much to worry about. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 14:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


40. I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997): A staple of 90s horror that has maintained popularity among slasher fans.
When do you intend to nominate ''Fight Club'' and ''The Fountain''? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


41. American History X (1998): Its powerful themes of redemption and racism have led to ongoing discussions about its impact.
:I haven't seen them, but from experience it generally stemmed from a lot of "well the other guy did it, so I will too". Also, people would set up parent articles (like "List of Lost episodes) in a manner that they could say "well, we can't put it there, because it wouldn't look right". There was already a guideline that said "only split if you need to", and people took that to mean if one needs to be split then they all should be split. It takes quite a bit of work to get an episode article to actually be good, because most don't have that much information available. [[Pilot (Smallville)|I've done quite a bit of work]] on the ''Smallville'' pilot. If the LOST episodes are in that bad of shape then I'm sure they'll be address. You can see [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episodes|our discussion]] about what should be done to handle these episodes. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 15:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
==Fountain==
It's already four paragraphs though, how big do you want it to be? [[User:Aaron Bowen|Aaron Bowen]] 00:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


42. Disturbing Behavior (1998): A teen thriller that explores conformity and rebellion, gaining traction among genre enthusiasts.
== 30 days of invasion ==


43. Magnolia (1999): Known for its ambitious narrative structure and ensemble cast, it has been embraced by fans of art-house cinema.
I just watched the ''30 Days of Night'' and ''The Invasion'' trailers, they both look pretty good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 17:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


44. Girl, Interrupted (1999): With strong performances and themes of mental health, this film has resonated with many viewers.
:I've never heard of ''The Invasion'''s Director. He's a German film maker, and I don't recognize the films listed on his page. I liked the 1978 version of the film, and parts of the 1993 version. We'll see, I guess. Lately, trailers have been letting me down. Usually there are a couple that get you in and the film's don't deliver, but there has been more of that lately (Spidey, Pirates). I can't view the "I am Legend" trailer. I keep getting some quicktime error, and I have no idea why. I have the latest version. I just have to wait till it's released somewhere else so I can view it there. Yeah, I want to see ''Ocean'', might see it with my step-dad on Father's Day. I enjoyed ''12'', partially. I hated the fake lasers, I mean, come on. I've seen really low-budget films that did a better job, and that whole Julia Roberts look-a-like gag? Slap the audience in the face why don't they. But I did like how they actually got the egg, that was kind of cool, but the suspension of disbelief is stretch, because I'd never let that thing out of my sight..I don't care who's fighting. I'll have to check that "Hard Candy" film. Ellen Page playing a 14 year old girl, when she was 18? Hmmm, eh...Tom Welling was 24, pretending to be a 15/16 yr old Clark Kent in season 1 of Smallville...so I guess stranger things have happened. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 19:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


45. Bicentennial Man (1999): Its exploration of humanity through an AI lens has led to a re-evaluation over time.
You guys haven't seen ''[[Downfall (film)|Downfall]]''? Cracking recreation. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


46. Audition (1999): This Japanese horror film is known for its shocking twists and psychological depth, garnering critical acclaim.
:Yeah, I wanted to see ''Brick''. My movie collection, though vast, generally only grows based on older films, and I only rarely go the theater (don't like crowds). According to Bay, he's kept all the big action sequences out of the trailers. I mean, notice how we have never seen Megatron don't anything other than being frozen? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 19:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


47. (500) Days of Summer (2009): Its unconventional romantic narrative has made it a favorite among fans seeking authenticity in love stories.
::Finally got the trailer for ''[[I Am Legend (film)|I am Legend]]'' to download, you're right...nothing really there. It isn't due for awhile, so I guess they probably don't want to show too much. Looks kinda good, from the lack of anything that was there. lol. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 02:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


48. Love & Pop (1998): An exploration of youth culture in Japan that resonates with fans of experimental cinema.
==Trivia==
But the issue here is that the information is relevant. Every bat movie has come out in June except this one.[[User:TheManWhoLaughs|TheManWhoLaughs]] 19:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


49. Ritual (Shiki-jitsu) (2000): An art-house film that examines existential themes, attracting cinephiles interested in unique narratives.
== Titanic ==


50. The Piano Teacher (2001): A provocative exploration of desire that has garnered attention for its bold storytelling.
OK, I've taken out a book, and wrote down page selections to make multiple citing easy, and I'm going to crack out a production section in my sandbox. The book focuses on how, not why Cameron did stuff, so if you do find citations for me, focus it on the writing, structure etc. Thanks. IMDb has a good news archive to flesh out the film's reception, so I may sandbox that too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


51. The House That Jack Built (2018): Lars von Trier's controversial film has sparked discussions about morality in art, attracting attention from cinephiles.
Would IMDb be a reliable source for the beginning and end of the shoot? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


52. Mother! (2017): Known for its allegorical storytelling and divisive reception, it has become a topic of analysis among audiences.
Oh ker-rap, any ideas on using italics for both the film and the ship yet disambiguating them? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


53. Prozac Nation (2001): A coming-of-age story that resonates with those exploring mental health themes.
Erm, thanks, might be more useful for my Spielberg work. Nice touch, how many years does it go up to? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


54. Ben and Arthur (2002): Recognized for its low-budget production values but earnest storytelling, gaining a niche audience.
Wonderful. I don't link urls right? Still, *Borat voice* very nice, I like. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


55. Daredevil (2003), Elektra (2005), Blade (1998): These superhero films have garnered attention for their unique takes on the genre despite mixed reviews.
Understandable, that's always a problem when you are making a film that has to entertain and enlighten. I recall seeing ''[[United 93 (film)|United 93]]'' and coming out wondering what was the point: I felt like I saw a horror film. ''[[World Trade Center (film)|World Trade Center]]'' has more lasting value. I only have a paragraph on digital effects and editing left for ''Titanic'', and I think I'll sandbox everything from cast, historical accuracy, themes, releases, soundtrack and reception. I already found a review that critcised it as a cash-in, contrary to what Cameron wanted, so that's interesting. Where do you think Historical accuracy can go? Under reception? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


56. Bruce Almighty (2003): Its comedic premise about divine intervention has led to lasting popularity among fans of light-hearted comedies.
== Wanted ==


57. How the Grinch Stole Christmas: Jim Carrey’s portrayal added a unique layer to the classic tale, making it memorable for many viewers.
Yeah, it seems ok. So far the production section isn't too huge, so I don't think sub-sections are necessary, though it's up to you. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


58. Brother Bear: Though not as popular as other Disney films, its themes of brotherhood have resonated with audiences over time.
Also, is there real significance to free running? It is a deviation from the book or anything? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


59. Love Actually: Initially polarizing, this romantic comedy has become a holiday staple thanks to its ensemble cast and intertwining stories.
OK. Did you see ''[[Night Watch (2004 film)|Nightwatch]]''? It was fun. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


60. Big Fish: Its imaginative storytelling appeals to those who appreciate whimsical narratives about family and legacy.
==[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of deaths in The Sopranos series]]==
I'd appreciate it if you gave your opinion for the deletion of [[List of deaths in The Sopranos series]] at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of deaths in The Sopranos series]]. Thanks. :) [[User:The Filmaker|The Filmaker]] 16:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


61. House of Sand and Fog: This drama's exploration of loss and identity resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate character-driven stories.
== Movies ==
Yeah, good so far, I added a bit. The current guidelines are good though, don't forget completely that they're worthwhile. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


62. Fantastic Four (2005), Shark Tale: Both films have found audiences who enjoy their unique takes on familiar genres despite initial criticism.
Topic pulled out of my hat: do you want to see ''[[Rise of the Silver Surfer]]''? For me, it's Surfy, Galactus and Doom, so I think I would. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


63. Just Like Heaven: Its blend of romance and fantasy appeals to viewers looking for feel-good stories.
:Elektra...no. ''Ghost Rider'', it was better than his attempt with ''Daredevil'', that's for sure. I've heard the rumor of the cloud isn't in fact a rumor, and there is that bit in the trailer that appears to be a huge cloud moving down to Earth. Then again, it could just be a cloud-ship, which transports Galactus. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 19:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::Empire says Galactus is all [[Mufasa]]ish but squint your eyes and you will see a bit of his [[pharoah]]-like splendour. Yeah, ''Fantastic Four'' I didn't care for. Too much setting up of superpowers and not enough Doom. It's simply really: great villain = great story. Not here. So I hope this sequel fulfils that with Doom and the Cosmic lot. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 20:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


64. Jarhead: A reflective take on military life that resonates with those interested in more serious war narratives.
:::Yeah, I don't have high expectations for it either. It probably won't suck, b/c I didn't think the first one sucked, not like some other comic book films, but it won't be that great either. At least, I don't believe it will. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 20:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


65. Zathura: While overshadowed by "Jumanji," this space-themed adventure has gained appreciation for its imaginative premise.
All that is from Find Articles right? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


66. She's the Man: This modern adaptation of Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night" is beloved for its humor and gender-bending themes.
Should we merge ''Wolverine''? I mean, it hasn't got a director and ''Magneto'' is merged. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


67. Monster House: A unique animated horror film that resonates with both kids and adults during Halloween season.
Cleaned-up and merged. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


68. Marie Antoinette (2006 film): Sofia Coppola’s stylized portrayal has sparked discussions about historical representation in cinema.
== Re: Holy rusted death lists, Batman! ==


69. Dead Silence: Known for its creepy atmosphere, it has developed a following among horror enthusiasts despite mixed reviews.
LOL, not to my knowledge. If you look at that guys contribs, and follow them to the WikiProject for the EastEnders, he made a comment about "Bloody ridiculous, they are saying it's a copyright violation now". But seriously, go there, and also check out the author of that death/birth/marriage list. It's an administrator. Check out the AfD discussion at that WikiProject and look at what the Admin is saying. His name is like Anemi-something, I can't remember. But yeah, if you find a user box about that let me know. lol. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 00:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


70. Meet the Robinsons: Its heartwarming message about family and resilience appeals to audiences looking for uplifting stories.
:[http://bp1.blogger.com/_CqDAtRJb_Ho/Rm4lim-jr6I/AAAAAAAAAA8/EzSd2kU1JVM/s1600-h/batcycle.jpg Should I be worried]? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 01:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


71. Fracture (2007 film): A legal thriller that captivates viewers with its intricate plot twists and strong performances.
::Yes, but the bike worries me that we are departing from the dark, and entering [[Joel Schumacher|the campy]]. I mean, the bike looks cool, just out of place for the direction Nolan left us. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 02:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


72. Shelter (2007 film): This LGBTQ+ film gained recognition for its heartfelt exploration of love and identity within the community.
:::Not really. Most news organizations try to stick by the "only print what you can prove" motto, and it says to me that WB has yet to actually take responsibility for the marketing, contrary to what G4 apparently was reporting. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC">[[User:Bignole|<small>'''<span style="background:Maroon;color:Gold"> &nbsp;BIGNOLE&nbsp;</span>'''</small>]]</span> <span style="font-family:Showcard Gothic">[[User talk:Bignole|<small>(Contact me)</small>]]</span> 03:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


73. Numb (2007 film): A drama that resonates with those exploring mental health themes in their own lives.
== Sorry ==


74. It's Kind of a Funny Story (film): A coming-of-age story that tackles mental health with humor and sincerity, appealing to young adults.
Sorry, I didn't see that. But I did explain my reasoning on the discussion page. --[[User:Jimbo Herndan|Jimbo Herndan]] 00:29, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


75. The Mist (film): Known for its bleak ending, this horror film has sparked discussions among genre fans regarding narrative choices.
== Giant f***ing robots are coming! ==


76. Eden Lake (2008 film): A British horror film that critiques class disparities while delivering intense thrills to viewers who appreciate social commentary in horror films.
I can almost imagine Soundwave being one: so he'd realistically have minions. But there is [[Tidal Wave (Transformers)|Tidal Wave]]. But I love [[Grimlock]], Grimlock is something we need: an Autobot who isn't a goody-two-shoes. Man, why do I have to see ''Transformers'' on July 27? They're invading our world not Australia, then the USA, New Zealand, Canada and then the UK... When are you seeing it? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


77. Bronson (2008 film): Tom Hardy’s transformative performance in this biopic about notorious criminal Charles Bronson has garnered critical acclaim over time.
==Consensus==
See [[Consensus]] - people agreeing are a consensus; not everyone has to bring something new to what it agreed, but everyone participating in the discussion ought to be allowed to have a view, even if it is simply to agree with someone else [[User:Stephenb|Stephenb]] [[User talk:Stephenb|(Talk)]] 12:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


78. Revolutionary Road: A poignant exploration of suburban life that resonates with audiences interested in character-driven dramas.
== Themes ==


79. Redline: An animated racing film known for its stunning visuals and frenetic energy that appeals to fans of the genre.
Thanks for the invite Erik, but I'm going off-line right now. I'll check in later and see what's up. &mdash;[[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] | [[User talk:Viriditas|Talk]] 14:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


80. Mary & Max: This stop-motion film’s exploration of friendship across distances resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate heartfelt storytelling.
:My point is that he is trying to make it so if a film scholar does not speak about a film's themes and style, then it shouldn't be FA status. But, in my opinion, it isn't about whether or not they should be speaking about it in those terms, but if they have or haven't. If they have, great. If they haven't, then it shouldn't be a deciding factor in an FAC. There are far too many films for scholars to talk about every one, and some were never intended to be looked at in that manner. ''Fight Club'' was meant to convey several messages, and had underlying tones. A slasher film isn't, it's about splattering guts and blood everywhere. Sure, someone could find a theme or symbolism in some of the character's actions, I think Arcayne did a good job of pointing one out in Part VII, but that doesn't mean that they actually have. I just don't like the idea that we would say a film can never reach FA status if film scholars don't write about it. I've never looked at FA status as meaning the subject of the article is something that could be put in the Library of Congress, which is what I'm taking he thinks these articles should be. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


81. Love Exposure: An epic Japanese film known for its ambitious narrative structure that explores love in unconventional ways; it’s become a favorite among cinephiles seeking unique experiences in cinema.
Funny, Adewit gave up. Still, his/her E.T. objection will provide practise for ''Titanic''. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


82. Dogtooth: This Greek film’s surreal narrative challenges societal norms, leading to discussions about boundaries in filmmaking.
:They seem to be getting rather personal with it. I don't know how many times they were basically talking down to me. They kept assuming things about my opinion as we discussed, but the second I do it they blow up at me. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


83. I Saw the Devil: A South Korean thriller known for its intense psychological elements that captivates fans of dark narratives exploring revenge themes.
::Regarding what you were saying about the Cineaste review, I think you have a point. Some reviewers are utter boors, who write to see how much they can cobble together and make themselves feel oh-so-witty, and who shouldn;t be allowed anywhere near a tv screen. If no one else is suggesting what they are, it is more reliable to go with the majority who say otherwise. Recently, in another article, I encountered an editor who felt very, very strongly that one reviewer's reputation should allow them to dismiss the larger portion of other, perhaps less-touted reviewers who saw a film in another way than the single reviewer. We always run the risk of injecting ourselves into our articles if we decide ahead of time which source voice is going to receive more play than others (outside of the application of RS and V). We may not see the incest facet of ''American Beauty'', but I don't think it's our call to dismiss it unless it fails the Wiki standards litmus. If the review is credible and from a reliable source, and is not contraverted by an overwhelming number of others, it should go in. The reader is left with the final responsibility to decide if it has merit or not. - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 17:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:::What's the supposed hole in ET? Let me know what you find in Dark City and Shawshank, as I am interested in both of those films. - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 17:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I wasn't in total disagreement with him either. I have no doubt that most films will need to cover that information, butt here are so many others, though in the minority, that won't have that information coverage. I just don't think it should be held against the article being FA if everything else is "perfect". Like I said, it shouldn't be a film's fault that it just wasn't made to be thematically proactive, or that it's part of a genre or series that people don't really care enough about to write anything other than "same ol' tireless crap, just like the other". I have no doubt most of those FA films currently need those sections, like you've pointed out when you went through them. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 19:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


84. Ruby Sparks: This romantic comedy-drama’s exploration of creativity and relationships resonates with viewers seeking originality in storytelling.


85. The Skin I Live In: Pedro Almodóvar’s provocative exploration of identity has sparked conversations about gender and transformation in cinema.
==Pan's Labyrinth==
I see that you have contributed to this article, do you know where the source for this quote might be found?


86. Thesis (Tésis): A Spanish thriller examining media ethics that captivates viewers interested in thought-provoking narratives about violence in media representation.
:''Guillermo Navarro, the director of photography, said that "after doing work in Hollywood on other movies and with other directors, working in our original language in different scenery brings me back to the original reasons I wanted to make movies, which is basically to tell stories with complete freedom and to let the visuals really contribute to the telling of the story."''


87. Seeking a Friend For the End of the Worldv Its unique premise about love amidst impending doom resonates with audiences looking for heartfelt stories against existential backdrops.
Thanks. [[User:Atropos|Atropos]] 17:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


88. The Master (2012): Paul Thomas Anderson’s explorative narrative on cult dynamics garners attention from cinephiles interested in character studies within complex relationships between individuals searching for meaning in life experiences post-World War II America.
:Thanks a lot! [[User:Atropos|Atropos]] 19:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


That would be really great. I'm going to start writing a production section soon, which is the only thing its really missing. [[User:Atropos|Atropos]] 20:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
89. Project X: While criticized upon release, this found-footage party film found popularity through meme culture and word-of-mouth among younger audiences.


== Re: Repoed my dance moves ==
90. Jeff Who Lives at Home: Its quirky premise about fate leads to discussions about life choices among viewers seeking introspective storytelling.


Um...there doesn't seem to be enough information there to hold a page. There's less there than Spider-Man 4. It seems more like they are all signing contracts but thing has actually been started. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 03:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
91. Disconnect (2012): Tackling modern issues surrounding technology’s impact on relationships resonates with audiences navigating similar challenges today.


:Sorry, I'm at my parents house (been here since Friday). Not only am I barely on the computer while I'm here, there's is extremely slow. I actually hate being on a computer when I try to use there's. Mine's all "zip zip zip", and there's is all "poke.......poke......poke". Anyway, If anyone's reading this beyond Erik, and is going to send me a message I'll be in the air (having my brain crushed by gravity) and will not be home till 3pm EST. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 09:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
92. Children Who Chase Lost Voices: An anime film exploring loss resonates emotionally with fans appreciating heartfelt narratives paired with stunning visuals.


==Historical Inaccuracies==
93. Look Who's Back: A satirical take on contemporary politics through humor captures attention from those exploring societal commentary within cinema.
Thanks for the assist. :) - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 19:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::about 10 pounds of Crazy in a 5-pound bag. Going on vacationnext month, and just working while firming up my plans. Getting ready to move into my new place (closer to work), making the world safe for stupid people to continue rebuilding in areas prone to disasters. How about you?
::Also, what to do if BigDaddy does nothing? Is there some sort fo timetable involved? - [[User:Arcayne|<span style="color:black">'''Arcayne'''</span>]] [[User talk:Arcayne|<small><span style="color:gray">(<sup>'''cast a spell'''</sup>)</span></small>]] 19:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


== BoF ==
94. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, 95. Man of Steel: These films have attracted both criticism praise from comic book fans examining their interpretations within established franchises.
96. The Neon Demon: Nicolas Winding Refn’s stylistic approach combined with themes surrounding beauty culture attracts cinephiles interested in visually striking narratives.
97. Tamasha: A Bollywood film exploring identity through romance resonates deeply among audiences seeking authenticity within relationships depicted on-screen.
98. The Nice Guys:Combining comedy detective noir elements leads to appreciation from fans enjoying witty banter nostalgic references throughout.
99. Silence (2016 film): Martin Scorsese’s exploration of faith amidst adversity draws attention from those engaging critically with religious themes depicted through cinematic storytelling.
100. Blade Runner 2049: While divisive upon release due to pacing issues compared to original Blade Runner; this sequel finds appreciation among sci-fi enthusiasts exploring philosophical questions surrounding humanity's future amidst advanced technology.
101. Mandy (2018 film): Cult status stems from Nicolas Cage’s performance alongside surreal visuals creating an unforgettable experience resonating strongly within horror fandoms.
102. Climax (2018 film): Gaspar Noé’s provocative style combined with dance elements creates an immersive experience attracting viewers seeking experimental cinema offerings.
103. Love (2015 film): This romantic drama’s explicit content paired with emotional depth captures attention from audiences exploring unconventional relationships depicted through artistic lenses showcased within filmmaking today.
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[[User:Thomasmurdock19|Thomasmurdock19]] ([[User talk:Thomasmurdock19|talk]]) 02:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


:Hello, films should only be added to [[list of cult films]] if there are reliable sources calling it a cult film. There are over a dozen cult-film books cited already, so the list is very comprehensive. Your posted content sounds like it is AI-generated, so please see [[WP:RSPCHATGPT]]. [[User:Erik|Erik]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Erik|talk]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Erik|contrib]]) <sup>([[Template:Reply to|ping me]])</sup> 02:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm touched, they care. :) Since you're registered you can pass on the note that their thoughts keep me up at night, I have horrible nightmares over the opinions of BoF members..lol. Anyway, yeah...that user will break the 3RR first...and if he does I won't worry about changing it back. Someone else will. You see he removed the citation, since it didn't agree with what he was putting in? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 01:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[:Christopher Cantwell (disambiguation)]] ==
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The article [[:Christopher Cantwell (disambiguation)]] has been [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]]&#32;because of the following concern:
:Finally got to the bottom of the thread, thanks for the support. By far, my favorite is "'''DOWN WITH BIGNOLE!'''". LMAO. It's like I'm a government and they are going to overthrow me. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 01:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be [[WP:DEL#REASON|deleted for any of several reasons]].
== Watchmen Questions ==


You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your [[Help:edit summary|edit summary]] or on [[Talk:Christopher Cantwell (disambiguation)|the article's talk page]].
Hey, it looks like you reverted one of my recent edits to the Watchmen(film) page. Now, I'm not trying to argue with what you did, because you're obviously a very experienced contributor to this site, while I'm still relatively new. However, since it looks like your basis for removal were the sources I cited I was just curious what exactly qualifies as a good source for this sort of information in a wiki article? I realize that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and so we shouldn't just toss out every rumor that comes our way, yet on a film such as this, that's still a year or more away from release, pretty much any casting information (other than Gerard Butler since that came straight from the director) is speculation to some extent. Do we have to wait for the actor or director to confirm it themselves or are there any online sources that are considered trustworthy enough to cite on Wikipedia? Also, what in particular did you object to about the comment on Cusack? I wasn't trying to make it sound like he had been offered a part, just that he had expressed his interest in joining the film. The man says this himself in the on the page I linked to. I thought this would be acceptable since no one has removed the item on Cruise, which more or less said that he at one point was interested in being in the film. Also if you are an avid Watchmen fan I expect that you are aware with Jude Law's enthusiasm for the material, and the fact that he even has a tattoo of Rorschach. He has also expressed an interest in portraying Ozymandias, and at this point seems much more likely to than Cruise, considering the CHUD link. Is there any specific reason why, if I could find a credible enough source, the information about Law couldn't be added alongside the Cruise statement? Thanks for the help. I just want to make sure, since I am still relatively new, that I don't make the same sort of mistakes editing pages in the future.


Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed deletion process]], but other [[Wikipedia:deletion process|deletion process]]es exist. In particular, the [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deletion]] process can result in deletion without discussion, and [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|articles for deletion]] allows discussion to reach [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for deletion.<!-- Template:Proposed deletion notify --> [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 10:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Also is this the best place for me to ask questions like these?

[[User:Aurum ore|Aurum ore]] 01:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, that pretty much answered everything I needed.

[[User:Aurum ore|Aurum ore]] 20:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

== Potential name issue ==

I thought you might want to know and bring it up with this editor if there are any potential problems: [[User:Erik the Appreciator]]. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

== Yo, Joe! ==

Eh, just wondering about the handle.

Good luck with ''G.I. Joe.'' Mind, a film adaptation with [[Action Man]] sounds weird. I mean, why take out the likes of Snake Eyes and Cobra Command and then stuff in another fictional universe for no other reason than economy? Thank Hasbro DeSanto and Murphy were there to keep DiBonaventura in check on ''Transformers''. But I shouldn't really say anything, because I know so little of the Joes: couldn't even get into their crossovers with the Transformers. I'd like an [[Action Man]] movie myself, plus [[Captain Scarlet]]. [[Thunderbirds]] would be cool... [[Thunderbirds (film)|oh wait]]. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:33, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I dawdled. ''Variety'' is ok for me. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

==Road to Perdition==
It's looking pretty good, I'd say you can at least nominate for GA at this point. [[User:The Filmaker|The Filmaker]] 03:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

== Not sure why DharmaFlix links are labelled spam ==

Hi Erik. You deleted links to film content pages on our new wiki which emphasizes the Buddhist content in various films. Not sure why. Clearly you consider it some kind of spam. I have read the various requirements for external links and don't see how we have violated them, Our site is not for profit and is a community service for the worldwide Buddhist community. You might consider the kind comments from Buddhist practitioners and teachers listed at: [http://www.dharmaflix.com/wiki/DharmaflixWiki:Community_Portal DharmaflixWiki:Community_Portal]. We are very inspired by the success of Wikipedia and appreciate the fine film reviews that you and others have produced here. However, our interest is to highlight Buddhist themes or Buddhist flavors in film for the purpose of teaching people about Buddhist dharma, that is, Buddhist philosophy and Buddhist states of consciousness. I am not sure what your criteria is for deciding to leave IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes on ''The Matrix'' page (when they are sort of boring), and take us off the page, when we had over 100 hits from the Matrix page in 3 days from people who care about how Buddhist philosophy deeply informs ''The Matrix'', for example. I can see that on some films that we believe are flavored with Buddhist content, it may seem too much a stretch to include a link to the page on our site on that film, but ''Spiritual Films'', ''The Matrix films'', ''Kundun'', ''Crouching Tiger...'', and on and on clearly have Buddhist content. Again, our site is purely for educational purposes and I believe you do a very large community of Buddhist practitioners a disservice by indiscriminately removing links. Thanks for your careful consideration of this. Bruce

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Whitewashing page.

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Hi Erik, I see you reversed my edit on the whitewashing page, describing my edit as a personal analysis. You are incorrect there, it wasn't. The nature of Heathcliff has had essays written on for decades, it is ambiguous (and more down to class) as any good English student knows, but articles written by such in Deadline are written from a particular point of view with an axe to grind and poor knowledge of the book (probably British literature in general). Yet that's where Wiki lays it's hat. I did have trepidation of even getting involved in such a lopsided page, I thought it would have it's guardians. I won't be making any more edits there.Halbared (talk) 15:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit summary here wrote, "Heathcliff is described in the novel has having varying features and possibly a Lascar, Spanish or American, it is kept vague depending on who is doing the describing". This was the explanation for removing the Deadline Hollywood content, right? Is that not a personal analysis, however educated it may be? Yes, it's a tricky topic, and it has gotten unsourced and badly-sourced listings that should be cleared out, and there will be edge cases to work through. When anyone edits, they have to expect their edit to be challenged. We can go through WP:DR if you want. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 16:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To follow up, it appears that the listing was unwarranted anyway because filming has not even started, so I removed it on that basis. If it is produced, though, and whitewashing still discussed in reliable sources, it can be relisted. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 16:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Erik, I hope when you're Online you can consider the cult films I'm going to mention:

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Cult films often gain their status due to a combination of factors, including unique storytelling, unconventional themes, memorable performances, or even a certain level of controversy. Here's a brief overview of why some of the films you mentioned are considered cult classics:

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1. Cruising (1980): Its controversial portrayal of the gay community and exploration of sexuality sparked debate, leading to a reevaluation over time.

2. Elizabethtown (2005): Initially criticized for its tone and pacing, it has gained a following for its quirky characters and heartfelt moments.

3. Shin Godzilla (2016): A modern take on the Godzilla franchise that reflects contemporary societal issues, it has garnered appreciation for its political commentary.

4. Anomalisa (2015): This stop-motion film's exploration of loneliness and existentialism resonates with many viewers, making it a standout in animation.

5. The Emperor's New Groove (2000): Initially underperformed at the box office but became beloved for its humor and distinct style, appealing to both kids and adults.

6. Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001): While it didn't achieve commercial success, its adventurous spirit and unique animation style have earned it a dedicated fanbase.

7. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002): Its artistic animation and themes of freedom resonate with audiences, leading to a lasting appreciation.

8. Rise of the Guardians (2012): This film's imaginative premise and ensemble of beloved characters have helped it cultivate a loyal following.

9. ParaNorman (2012): Its blend of horror and humor, along with themes of acceptance, has made it a favorite among animation fans.

10. Bee Movie (2007): The film's absurd premise and meme culture have contributed to its cult status despite mixed initial reviews.

11. Flushed Away (2006): While not a box office hit, its clever humor and animation style have garnered it a niche audience.

12. Madagascar (2005): The film's quirky characters and comedic elements have made it a beloved family favorite.

13. Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003): Despite its initial box office struggles, it has gained appreciation for its animation and storytelling.

14. Jennifer's Body (2009): Initially dismissed as a teen horror film, it has since been re-evaluated for its feminist themes and dark humor.

15. Camera Buff (1970): A Polish film that critiques media and society, it has gained recognition for its artistic merit.

16. Los Olvidados (1950): A powerful social commentary on poverty in Mexico, it has been embraced by cinephiles for its artistic significance.

17. Pinocchio (1940), Bambi (1942), Sleeping Beauty (1959), Alice in Wonderland (1951), The Lady and the Tramp (1955): These Disney classics have transcended generations, becoming nostalgic favorites for their animation and storytelling.

18. A Goofy Movie (1995): Its relatable father-son themes and catchy music have made it an enduring favorite among fans.

19. Perfect Blue (1997): This psychological thriller has gained a significant following for its complex narrative and influence on later works.

20. Millennium Actress (2001): An acclaimed anime that blends history and personal narrative, celebrated for its emotional depth.

21. Tokyo Godfathers (2003): A unique holiday film that combines humor and heartwarming moments has earned it a dedicated audience.

22. Angel's Egg (1985): This surreal anime film is appreciated for its artistic visuals and ambiguous storytelling.

23. Megamind (2010): Its subversion of superhero tropes and clever humor have helped it find a loyal fanbase.

24. When the Wind Blows (1986): A poignant anti-war animated film that resonates with audiences for its emotional depth.

25. On the Silver Globe (1988): A visually striking film that faced censorship, gaining recognition as an avant-garde classic.

26. Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! (Átame) (1989): Pedro Almodóvar's provocative narrative has earned it a cult following for its bold themes.

27. Pump Up the Volume (1990): Its portrayal of teenage rebellion and the power of voice resonates with young audiences.

28. Jawbreaker (1999): A darkly comedic take on high school dynamics that has become a favorite among fans of teen films.

29. The Doors (1991): While divisive among critics, it has gained appreciation for its portrayal of Jim Morrison and the band's legacy.

30. What About Bob? (1991): This comedy's quirky characters and memorable quotes have led to its status as a beloved classic.

31. Color of Night (1994): Known for its erotic elements and campy dialogue, it has developed a following for its unintentional humor.

32. The Human Centipede trilogy: Notorious for its shock value, these films have attracted viewers interested in extreme horror.

33. The Crush (1993), Fear (1996): Both films feature intense psychological themes that resonate with audiences drawn to thrillers.

34. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993): Regarded as one of the best Batman adaptations, it has gained critical acclaim over time.

35. The Fountain (2006): Its ambitious storytelling and visual style have led to a dedicated fanbase despite mixed initial reactions.

36. Event Horizon (1997): A sci-fi horror film that has become a cult favorite for its unsettling atmosphere and themes.

37. In & Out (1997): Its comedic take on identity and acceptance resonates with audiences seeking lighthearted yet meaningful narratives.

38. Gia (1998): Angelina Jolie's performance in this biopic about supermodel Gia Carangi has garnered lasting admiration.

39. Can't Hardly Wait (1998): A quintessential teen film that captures the essence of high school life, leading to nostalgic appeal.

40. I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997): A staple of 90s horror that has maintained popularity among slasher fans.

41. American History X (1998): Its powerful themes of redemption and racism have led to ongoing discussions about its impact.

42. Disturbing Behavior (1998): A teen thriller that explores conformity and rebellion, gaining traction among genre enthusiasts.

43. Magnolia (1999): Known for its ambitious narrative structure and ensemble cast, it has been embraced by fans of art-house cinema.

44. Girl, Interrupted (1999): With strong performances and themes of mental health, this film has resonated with many viewers.

45. Bicentennial Man (1999): Its exploration of humanity through an AI lens has led to a re-evaluation over time.

46. Audition (1999): This Japanese horror film is known for its shocking twists and psychological depth, garnering critical acclaim.

47. (500) Days of Summer (2009): Its unconventional romantic narrative has made it a favorite among fans seeking authenticity in love stories.

48. Love & Pop (1998): An exploration of youth culture in Japan that resonates with fans of experimental cinema.

49. Ritual (Shiki-jitsu) (2000): An art-house film that examines existential themes, attracting cinephiles interested in unique narratives.

50. The Piano Teacher (2001): A provocative exploration of desire that has garnered attention for its bold storytelling.

51. The House That Jack Built (2018): Lars von Trier's controversial film has sparked discussions about morality in art, attracting attention from cinephiles.

52. Mother! (2017): Known for its allegorical storytelling and divisive reception, it has become a topic of analysis among audiences.

53. Prozac Nation (2001): A coming-of-age story that resonates with those exploring mental health themes.

54. Ben and Arthur (2002): Recognized for its low-budget production values but earnest storytelling, gaining a niche audience.

55. Daredevil (2003), Elektra (2005), Blade (1998): These superhero films have garnered attention for their unique takes on the genre despite mixed reviews.

56. Bruce Almighty (2003): Its comedic premise about divine intervention has led to lasting popularity among fans of light-hearted comedies.

57. How the Grinch Stole Christmas: Jim Carrey’s portrayal added a unique layer to the classic tale, making it memorable for many viewers.

58. Brother Bear: Though not as popular as other Disney films, its themes of brotherhood have resonated with audiences over time.

59. Love Actually: Initially polarizing, this romantic comedy has become a holiday staple thanks to its ensemble cast and intertwining stories.

60. Big Fish: Its imaginative storytelling appeals to those who appreciate whimsical narratives about family and legacy.

61. House of Sand and Fog: This drama's exploration of loss and identity resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate character-driven stories.

62. Fantastic Four (2005), Shark Tale: Both films have found audiences who enjoy their unique takes on familiar genres despite initial criticism.

63. Just Like Heaven: Its blend of romance and fantasy appeals to viewers looking for feel-good stories.

64. Jarhead: A reflective take on military life that resonates with those interested in more serious war narratives.

65. Zathura: While overshadowed by "Jumanji," this space-themed adventure has gained appreciation for its imaginative premise.

66. She's the Man: This modern adaptation of Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night" is beloved for its humor and gender-bending themes.

67. Monster House: A unique animated horror film that resonates with both kids and adults during Halloween season.

68. Marie Antoinette (2006 film): Sofia Coppola’s stylized portrayal has sparked discussions about historical representation in cinema.

69. Dead Silence: Known for its creepy atmosphere, it has developed a following among horror enthusiasts despite mixed reviews.

70. Meet the Robinsons: Its heartwarming message about family and resilience appeals to audiences looking for uplifting stories.

71. Fracture (2007 film): A legal thriller that captivates viewers with its intricate plot twists and strong performances.

72. Shelter (2007 film): This LGBTQ+ film gained recognition for its heartfelt exploration of love and identity within the community.

73. Numb (2007 film): A drama that resonates with those exploring mental health themes in their own lives.

74. It's Kind of a Funny Story (film): A coming-of-age story that tackles mental health with humor and sincerity, appealing to young adults.

75. The Mist (film): Known for its bleak ending, this horror film has sparked discussions among genre fans regarding narrative choices.

76. Eden Lake (2008 film): A British horror film that critiques class disparities while delivering intense thrills to viewers who appreciate social commentary in horror films.

77. Bronson (2008 film): Tom Hardy’s transformative performance in this biopic about notorious criminal Charles Bronson has garnered critical acclaim over time.

78. Revolutionary Road: A poignant exploration of suburban life that resonates with audiences interested in character-driven dramas.

79. Redline: An animated racing film known for its stunning visuals and frenetic energy that appeals to fans of the genre.

80. Mary & Max: This stop-motion film’s exploration of friendship across distances resonates deeply with audiences who appreciate heartfelt storytelling.

81. Love Exposure: An epic Japanese film known for its ambitious narrative structure that explores love in unconventional ways; it’s become a favorite among cinephiles seeking unique experiences in cinema.

82. Dogtooth: This Greek film’s surreal narrative challenges societal norms, leading to discussions about boundaries in filmmaking.

83. I Saw the Devil: A South Korean thriller known for its intense psychological elements that captivates fans of dark narratives exploring revenge themes.

84. Ruby Sparks: This romantic comedy-drama’s exploration of creativity and relationships resonates with viewers seeking originality in storytelling.

85. The Skin I Live In: Pedro Almodóvar’s provocative exploration of identity has sparked conversations about gender and transformation in cinema.

86. Thesis (Tésis): A Spanish thriller examining media ethics that captivates viewers interested in thought-provoking narratives about violence in media representation.

87. Seeking a Friend For the End of the Worldv Its unique premise about love amidst impending doom resonates with audiences looking for heartfelt stories against existential backdrops.

88. The Master (2012): Paul Thomas Anderson’s explorative narrative on cult dynamics garners attention from cinephiles interested in character studies within complex relationships between individuals searching for meaning in life experiences post-World War II America.


89. Project X: While criticized upon release, this found-footage party film found popularity through meme culture and word-of-mouth among younger audiences.


90. Jeff Who Lives at Home: Its quirky premise about fate leads to discussions about life choices among viewers seeking introspective storytelling.


91. Disconnect (2012): Tackling modern issues surrounding technology’s impact on relationships resonates with audiences navigating similar challenges today.


92. Children Who Chase Lost Voices: An anime film exploring loss resonates emotionally with fans appreciating heartfelt narratives paired with stunning visuals.


93. Look Who's Back: A satirical take on contemporary politics through humor captures attention from those exploring societal commentary within cinema.


94. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, 95. Man of Steel: These films have attracted both criticism praise from comic book fans examining their interpretations within established franchises.

96. The Neon Demon: Nicolas Winding Refn’s stylistic approach combined with themes surrounding beauty culture attracts cinephiles interested in visually striking narratives.

97. Tamasha: A Bollywood film exploring identity through romance resonates deeply among audiences seeking authenticity within relationships depicted on-screen.

98. The Nice Guys:Combining comedy detective noir elements leads to appreciation from fans enjoying witty banter nostalgic references throughout.

99. Silence (2016 film): Martin Scorsese’s exploration of faith amidst adversity draws attention from those engaging critically with religious themes depicted through cinematic storytelling.

100. Blade Runner 2049: While divisive upon release due to pacing issues compared to original Blade Runner; this sequel finds appreciation among sci-fi enthusiasts exploring philosophical questions surrounding humanity's future amidst advanced technology.

101. Mandy (2018 film): Cult status stems from Nicolas Cage’s performance alongside surreal visuals creating an unforgettable experience resonating strongly within horror fandoms.

102. Climax (2018 film): Gaspar Noé’s provocative style combined with dance elements creates an immersive experience attracting viewers seeking experimental cinema offerings.

103. Love (2015 film): This romantic drama’s explicit content paired with emotional depth captures attention from audiences exploring unconventional relationships depicted through artistic lenses showcased within filmmaking today.

Thomasmurdock19 (talk) 02:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, films should only be added to list of cult films if there are reliable sources calling it a cult film. There are over a dozen cult-film books cited already, so the list is very comprehensive. Your posted content sounds like it is AI-generated, so please see WP:RSPCHATGPT. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 02:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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