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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. '''This page is no longer live.''' Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. <br>The result of the debate was '''DELETE''' [[User:Gwalla|<nowiki></nowiki>]] &mdash; [[User:Gwalla|Gwalla]] | [[User talk:Gwalla|Talk]] 18:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===[[Last Days of Foxhound]]===
===[[Last Days of Foxhound]]===
Non-notable web comic. Alexa rank of 642,713. Metal Gear Solid fanfiction (in other words, they're somebody else's characters). --[[User:Gwalla|<nowiki></nowiki>]] &mdash; [[User:Gwalla|Gwalla]] | [[User talk:Gwalla|Talk]] 00:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Non-notable web comic. Alexa rank of 642,713. Metal Gear Solid fanfiction (in other words, they're somebody else's characters). --[[User:Gwalla|<nowiki></nowiki>]] &mdash; [[User:Gwalla|Gwalla]] | [[User talk:Gwalla|Talk]] 00:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' (Weak)- Yes, it is no [[Penny Arcade]], or [[Megatokyo]], but is it non-notable enough to be worth deleting and trashing everyone's work? Remember, we're not pressed for space here like a paper encylopedia. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 02:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' (Weak)- Yes, it is no [[Penny Arcade (webcomic)|Penny Arcade]], or [[Megatokyo]], but is it non-notable enough to be worth deleting and trashing everyone's work? Remember, we're not pressed for space here like a paper encylopedia. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 02:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''': Not encyclopedic. 1) Will it be a puzzling topic a reference work will need to address? 2) Is it something anyone will seek in the future? 3) Does it represent a pioneering or influential artwork? I get "no" to all three. --[[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 03:12, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''': Not encyclopedic. 1) Will it be a puzzling topic a reference work will need to address? 2) Is it something anyone will seek in the future? 3) Does it represent a pioneering or influential artwork? I get "no" to all three. --[[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 03:12, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Geogre, I have to ask: where did you get those criteria? They don't resemble any of the crieria for webcomics I remember ever hearing about. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 03:25, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Geogre, I have to ask: where did you get those criteria? They don't resemble any of the crieria for webcomics I remember ever hearing about. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 03:25, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**They're my criteria for articles, all articles. I've been voting on VfD since before the first web comic showed up here, I believe, and all artworks have to answer the same questions, IMO. If anything, we should be more strict about web art, as it is by its nature far more ephemeral than even vanity press publications. For me, an artwork should be either first, greatest, or influential, and it should be something that appears in alien contexts (i.e. something mentioned elsewhere and by someone not in the web comic business) so that we will have a need for explanation. Otherwise, it doesn't matter whether we're talking about video game music or sculpture: the subject is not notable enough for encyclopedic treatment. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 04:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**They're my criteria for articles, all articles. I've been voting on VfD since before the first web comic showed up here, I believe, and all artworks have to answer the same questions, IMO. If anything, we should be more strict about web art, as it is by its nature far more ephemeral than even vanity press publications. For me, an artwork should be either first, greatest, or influential, and it should be something that appears in alien contexts (i.e. something mentioned elsewhere and by someone not in the web comic business) so that we will have a need for explanation. Otherwise, it doesn't matter whether we're talking about video game music or sculpture: the subject is not notable enough for encyclopedic treatment. --[[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 04:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Low Alexa rank alone is enuf, but also hints at the more detailed reasons. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 03:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Low Alexa rank alone is enuf, but also hints at the more detailed reasons. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 03:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Not notable. As Geogre says, the notability bar for webcomics ought to be pretty high. <font color=#00A86B>[[User:Android79|<small>A</small>&#1080;<small>D</small>&#1103;<small>01D</small>]]</font><font color=#B87333>[[User talk:Android79|<small>TALK</small>]]</font><font color=#0047AB>[[Special:Emailuser/Android79|<small>EMAIL</small>]]</font> 05:21, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Not notable. As Geogre says, the notability bar for webcomics ought to be pretty high. [[User:Android79|<span style="color:#00A86B;"><small>A</small>&#1080;<small>D</small>&#1103;<small>01D</small></span>]][[User talk:Android79|<span style="color:#B87333;"><small>TALK</small></span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Android79|<span style="color:#0047AB;"><small>EMAIL</small></span>]] 05:21, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. This entry will probably bring the search up by next week... [[User:Bastique|'''<font size=+1>{{unicode|&#08492;}}</font>astique''']]<font size=+1 style="color:#FF72E3;">{{unicode|&#09660;}}</font>[[User talk:Bastique|'''<sup>talk</sup>''']] 05:24, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. This entry will probably bring the search up by next week... --[[User:Bastique|'''<span style="font-size:large;">&#08492;</span>astique''']]<span style="font-size:large; color:#FF72E3;">&#09660;</span>[[User talk:Bastique|'''<sup>talk</sup>''']] 05:24, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Question: Are you saying that the page rank boosting that occurs when someone writes a Wikipedia article should be used as justification for the Wikipedia article? --[[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 14:54, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' non notable. --[[User:JamesBurns|JamesBurns]] 05:50, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' nn --[[User:Xcali|Xcali]] 05:57, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' non notable. --[[user:mikkalai|mikka]] [[user talk:mikkalai|(t)]] 08:14, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' not notable. --[[User:Melvis|Melvis]] 16:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**User's 19th edit, 12 of which are VFD votes. [[User:Kaibabsquirrel|Kaibabsquirrel]] 22:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' it seems like this guy wants to make his comic better known. [[User:ConeyCyclone|ConeyCyclone]] 17:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**Account was created 12 minutes before this vote. User's 11th edit. [[User:Kaibabsquirrel|Kaibabsquirrel]] 22:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. --[[User:Jinkleberries|Jinkleberries]] 19:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**It should be noted that the above user was created 12 June 2005, and has voted "keep" on everyone of the (many) VfD that user voted on. --[[User:Marudubshinki|maru]] 20:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
***I noted 37 'keep' votes within 7 minutes. That's pretty quick evaluating. :-) [[User:Tobycat|Tobycat]] 20:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', in order to prevent Bastique's reasoning from coming to fruition. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 22:19, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' nn fanfic. -[[User:Gtrmp|Sean Curtin]] 07:23, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - non-notable. --[[User:DoubleCross|DoubleCross]] 08:43, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. [[User:Quale|Quale]] 20:55, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:''This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. '''<span style="color:red;">Please do not edit this page</span>'''.'' </div>

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