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== Thank you == |
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[[Image:smile.svg|40px]] Thank you for the barnstar; it's been enormously tiring and stressful and I really do appreciate it. I also wanted to thank '''you''' for helping with the discussions at [[Talk:Hogenakkal Falls]] and elsewhere. Your contributions are always welcome. [[User:SheffieldSteel|<span style="color:#006622;">S<small>HEFFIELD</small>S<small>TEEL</small></span>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:SheffieldSteel|TALK]]</b></small></sup> 22:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:And thanks from me as well. Discussions of this sort can get very tiring, and it very much helps to have someone say thank you. I just wish the situation was such that such tireless effort wasn't required. Oh, well. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 22:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Footnote == |
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Yes, I'm sending you an e-mail with my e-mail address in it. Please send me the report. Hope you don't take this personally, but I believe in the "[[Trust but verify]]" principle. :) [[User:Marathi mulgaa|Marathi_Mulgaa]] ([[User talk:Marathi mulgaa|talk]]) 00:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Totally understand. I just sent it so you should receive it shortly. [[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] ([[User talk:Reneeholle#top|talk]]) 12:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Your message == |
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==Your comments are welcome== |
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I left a response for you on my talk page. [[User:Vassyana|Vassyana]] 23:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC) |
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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Persistent_Misuse_of_the_talk_page_and_other_yuckies]] |
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== [[Shri Ram Chandra Mission]] == |
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wishing you happiness, [[User:Sethie|Sethie]] ([[User talk:Sethie|talk]]) 15:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Which org are you associated with? (if any) [[User:IPSOS|IPSOS]] ([[User talk:IPSOS|talk]]) 19:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Wow Renee. |
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Your post on ANI blew me away- so clear, concise and very civil. Wow. [[User:Sethie|Sethie]] ([[User talk:Sethie|talk]]) 20:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::The Chennai group, though my goal is to present a neutral article, not one that favors one over the other. I'm also very familiar with the other group too. Renee --[[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] 19:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the suggested read/book on peptides and emotions. --[[User:DennisDaniels|DennisDaniels]] ([[User talk:DennisDaniels|talk]]) 18:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Cut and paste == |
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== Request for Mediation: [[John Howard]] == |
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You need to cut and paste from the edit page, not the article. Otherwise you lose all the wikilinks and I will have to revert you. [[User:IPSOS|IPSOS]] ([[User talk:IPSOS|talk]]) 20:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Hello. A request for mediation has been lodged for the [[John Howard]] article, concerning whether information about an incident between John Howard and Barack Obama should be included or deleted from the article. The link for the RfM is [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/John_Howard]]. The issue is still being discussed on the [[Talk:John_Howard|article talk page]]. Please go to the RfM page and list whether you agree or disagree to be involved in mediation of this issue. Thank you, '''[[User:Lester|<span style="color:green">Lester</span>]]''' 01:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Sahaj Marg == |
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:::Oops, did I do this wrong? Please let me know which page lost the wikilinks and I'll go back and fix it. Sorry! Renee --[[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] 20:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC) |
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I've been following the discussions on the [[Sahaj Marg]] page due to an interest in Cult Free World on another article. I won't be editing this article but I thought you might find this useful. I've left this same message on [[User:Marathi mulgaa]]'s page. |
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[[Shri Ram Chandra Mission (Chennai)]] |
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http://books.google.com/books?id=0YYYAAAAIAAJ&q=Sahaj+Marg&dq=Sahaj+Marg&lr=&pgis=1 |
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--[[User:PTR|PTR]] ([[User talk:PTR|talk]]) 16:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Dear IPSOS, I've tried twice to do as you recommend and it didn't work (still lost that box). So, I'm just going to revert to your page and hand-type in the text. Thanks, Renee --[[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] 20:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the barnstar. You're very welcome. I found it using books.google.com from the Google advanced search page. There's also a scholar.google.com and http://news.google.com/archivesearch --[[User:PTR|PTR]] ([[User talk:PTR|talk]]) 16:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== AIV == |
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== [[Embedded marketing]] == |
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I'm just curious as to why you and Shashwat have reported each other to [[WP:AIV|AIV]], instead of a resolution area. [[User:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#008000">Jmlk</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmlk17|<span style="color:#000080">1</span>]][[User_talk:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#800000">7</span>]] 21:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:I'd suggest filing a request at [[WP:RFPP|requests for page protection]]. I'll check into the users edits, and take appropriate action. Thank you. [[User:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#008000">Jmlk</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmlk17|<span style="color:#000080">1</span>]][[User_talk:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#800000">7</span>]] 21:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi. I have taken care of the concerns that you raised at this afd. Would you care to reanalyze your opinion? Thanks,--'''''[[User:Brewcrewer|<span style="font family:Arial;color:green">brew</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Brewcrewer|<span style="font-family:Arial;color:#2E82F4">crewer</span>]] [[User talk:Brewcrewer|(yada, yada)]]''''' 18:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC) |
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==YO== |
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==Heavier action, etc.== |
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The "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar |
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On the sahaj marg page, you asked about heavier action. One possible next step would be a user conduct RFC. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RFC#Request_comment_on_users]], something Sethie considered however at the time, Sethie decided to go the mediation route.... |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | You have come up with more then a few great to suggestions to break gridlocks as of late.... and if you keep up such nonsense, level-headedness and reliance on wiki policy I see an adminship in your future! [[User:Sethie|Sethie]] ([[User talk:Sethie|talk]]) 17:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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However, a lot has happened, including: his 3rr violation, the stuff he wrote on his user page about why he is here at wikipedia (now removed), Sethie's problems with him, your problems with him, ISOPS problems with him (any others I am missing?) and that Will Babeck (an admin) cautioned him for all the same things we are struggling with him over. Sethie feels that there is sufficient evidence for a user conduct rfc and that some administrative action would almost certainly be taken against him if a user rfc was instigated. |
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== The Wolf Hunter == |
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If you would, read up on it, and read up on the various options available at [[WP:DR]] and let Sethie know your thoughts. [[User:Sethie|Sethie]] 01:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC) |
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I don't see how any one has a right to delete some ones work from here. Wikipedia is a Encyclopedia for people to gain knowledge about things in life, pop culture and things from around the world. The Wolf Hunter film it's self is a film that has lots of fans and supporters as does the character. I think just because its not as well known as Freddy or Jason does not mean it should not be on here. I have already seen that some one else has edited the article as well. I think that if this does go off its a shame and what kind of Encyclopedia for the people rob people from learning about films and characters from a independent film. |
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== Thanks == |
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--bloodline video 06:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Hey, thanks for the barnstars! [[User:IPSOS|IPSOS]] ([[User talk:IPSOS|talk]]) 13:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:You need to have a few secondary sources (i.e., like from newspapers or magazines) that discuss the work. Articles without sources are frequently deleted so it's not just you, it's a common thing to ensure the encyclopedic quality of Wikipedia. I did a quick Google news search and couldn't find anything, but maybe you know of some? If you add some in let me know. Good luck! [[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] ([[User talk:Reneeholle#top|talk]]) 12:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Real_Madrid_C.F.&diff=216049183&oldid=216048771 |
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Hi I noticed your post on [[User:IPSOS]]'s talk page and took a look at your RfC. While I was there I noticed that it was listed under "wikiuser" and thought you'd forgotten to fill in the user's name when you created the page. Almost left you a note about it, but then realized the subject of the RfC had moved it. I've moved it back and left him a warning. Other than that, since I know nothing about this dispute, I'll leave you to carry on... But let me know if he moves it again or otherwise vandalises it... [[User talk:GlassFET|GlassFET]] 18:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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'rvt vandalism'? You are propogating it. [[Special:Contributions/88.106.94.7|88.106.94.7]] ([[User talk:88.106.94.7|talk]]) 21:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:If the user continues to move or otherwise vandalise the RfC, I'll certainly add my outside view about that, but I'd rather edit pages than dig into something that happened in the past that I wasn't involved in... [[User talk:GlassFET|GlassFET]] 18:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Real_Madrid_C.F.&diff=prev&oldid=216048771 This] is what I reverted, my friend.[[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] ([[User talk:Reneeholle#top|talk]]) 02:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:P.S., I'd advise that you put ''something'' on your user page so it doesn't show up as a redlink. Vandal patrol tends to check the edits of IP users and new users. Having a redlinked user page makes you look like a new user and you may be causing extra work for patrollers. [[User talk:GlassFET|GlassFET]] 18:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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: : I apologise then; don't really edit much on Wikipedia, I just tried to revert the article back to the vandalism I tried to fix. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.106.94.7|88.106.94.7]] ([[User talk:88.106.94.7|talk]]) 18:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Take a look at your sig. See how your name is red instead of blue? Click on it, you will get an edit page. Even if you just put a dot and save it, the links will turn blue. Your user name also shows up as a redlink in recent changes, article histories, etc. It tends to make one as a newbie or someone who'd rather not put a brief note on their user page about who they are and/or what they are interested in. Your edits probably get more scrutiny because of it. |
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: Re your question on my talk page - it wasn't strictly speaking vandalism, it was simply promotional or advertising ([[WP:SPAM]]; [[WP:ADVERT]]). Either way, it had to go. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. [[User talk:Orderinchaos|Orderinchaos]] 06:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::With respect to your dispute, I'm not an admin so I'd rather not get involved with it. You might try the [[Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts]] page. [[User talk:GlassFET|GlassFET]] 18:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::You're welcome. If you'd like an idea of something to put on your user page, many users like to put [[WP:USERBOX|userboxes]] on them. [[User talk:GlassFET|GlassFET]] 18:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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==Request for mediation not accepted== |
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::::You're welcome again. And thanks for the barnstar, it's my first! [[User talk:GlassFET|GlassFET]] 19:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::''For the Mediation Committee,'' <span style="font-family:Verdana;">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB''']][[User talk:WJBscribe|scribe]]</span> 16:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Comet AfD == |
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Thanks for pointing that out. I tagged it with [[WP:TWINKLE|TWINKLE]], so it must have missed it for some reason. I'll clean it up. -- [[User:Chovain|Mark]] [[User talk:Chovain|Chovain]] 02:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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I see you are qualified for this service award, as you have been here over a month and have more than [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Reneeholle&site=en.wikipedia.org 200 edits]. You could put this on your user page if you want or there are [[WP:SERVICE#Novice_Editor_.28or_Burba.29|alternative forms]] your could use instead if you prefer them. Cheers! [[User talk:GlassFET|GlassFET]] 18:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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==No problem== |
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== [[User:Shashwat pandey|Shashwat pandey]] == |
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It was just a confusion in the edit history. Thanks for letting me know. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Squaty squater|Squaty squater]] ([[User talk:Squaty squater|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Squaty squater|contribs]]) 00:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I've signed the RfC and added my attempts to resolve. [[User:IPSOS|IPSOS]] ([[User talk:IPSOS|talk]]) 23:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== BLP noticeboard == |
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It was at [[WT:BLP]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Biographies_of_living_persons&diff=prev&oldid=218314061] when i suggested it should be on the notice board. Yeah, the notice board is the best place to ask such questions [[User:Gnangarra|Gnan]][[User_talk:Gnangarra|garra]] 03:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Thanks == |
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Thanks for the tip on my page! [[User:Duty2love|Duty2love]] 18:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== 10 Maxims == |
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==Heya== |
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I really appreciated your comments on my talk page, I am so glad that I was able to inspire you to tackle some of the absurdities that you've been watching happen here on Wiki for so long. |
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I really feel like I've gotten really familiar with some of the core policies, and more importantly actually believe in them, and really try to edit from them. I feel like this is one of my strengths as an editor, and I am overjoyed to share that. :) |
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I would say one of my weaknesses as an editor is dealing with editors who don't play by those rules. It took me over a year to overcome my own agenda pushing on Wiki, and they really don't have an ounce of inclination to fight that in others anymore. |
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Pls let me know what you think about this proposal: |
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the positive thing about this whole experience for me is that I agree with you, in the end, on Wikipedia, NPOV wins, and troublesome users are forced out. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sahaj_Marg#Proposal_-_Ten_Maxims |
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peace! [[User:Sethie|Sethie]] 21:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Explanation == |
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[[User:Marathi mulgaa|Marathi_Mulgaa]] ([[User talk:Marathi mulgaa|talk]]) 20:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC) |
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It's generally OK to say "We tried mediation but it didn't work". However, you must be very careful to not use it as evidence against someone and not link directly to mediation discussions in user conduct cases, because such links are usually interpreted in that fashion. If you have further questions, please ask. Cheers! [[User:Vassyana|Vassyana]] 08:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Please feel free to include that formal mediation was attempted. However, please avoid linking to the mediation talk page, citing other parts of the related discussion or using the mediation against a user. This is to avoid having the mediation proceedings being handled as evidence. Ask always, ask any questions. Be well! [[User:Vassyana|Vassyana]] 01:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[:Category:Croatian-Australian_Socceroos]] == |
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==Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University== |
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Thank you for stopping by Renee. It is uplifting to see the opinion of a neutral editor like yourself. Right above your comments, an analysis of the current article was provided. The issues you pointed out were also discussed there. It would be nice if neutral visitors followed up with the progress of this page to a certain extent. Anyway; thank you again. Best, [[User:Riveros11|Avyakt7]] 17:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi, |
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[[:Category:Croatian-Australian_Socceroos]] [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_July_7#Category:Croatian-Australian_Socceroos|has come up for deletion at CfD]]. As this category was created as a result of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Croatian-Australian Socceroos|this AfD]], which you participated in, I thought you might have an opinion on this debate as well. This is a blanket notice that is being sent out to everyone who participated in that AfD. [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] <sup>([[User talk:Lankiveil|speak to me]])</sup> 03:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC). |
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:Renee, Thank you so much for responding to the Rfc and waving one huge clue-stick at the article. Yes, the first paragraph seems to have been written to shock and horrify people as much as possible. It bears little resemblance to what BK-style Raj-Yoga actually involves. 'Monastic? Spirit Possession? OK so I need to go to some kind of monastery somewhere and, if I were a woman, get myself possessed by some "male spirit" and become his "mouthpiece"? No thanks!'--- I think that's the sort of impression it was meant to give. It is based on academic references but when I read the references they do use those words, yes, but the context is different and it is also clear there are some things they haven't grasped. I tried to clarify the situation here [[Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University#Start_of_article]] but at that time there were no neutral editors around. |
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== Tauheed Ashraf GM changes == |
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:Thank you for understanding what we are going through with this article. I've seen you've had a similar experience. |
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The changes made for the Greg Mortenson Early Life Section are made since Greg himself is not a Lutheran missionary, please allow this update since it is needed to showcase him in that light. |
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:Regards [[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] 18:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Greg_Mortenson&action=edit§ion=1 |
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[[User:Tauheed_Ashraf|Tauheed_Ashraf]] ([[User talk:Tauheed_Ashraf|talk]]) 06:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for the advice on the talk page. I have done as you suggested. I've never had much luck with alerts before but one thing I have come to realise this week is that it really helps if Rfcs, alerts etc are written as one bite-size chunk of an issue that people can easily understand and respond to instead of a vague and subtle mushiness. |
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== Offline == |
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::Also thanks for chipping in regarding the "possession" issue. I haven't had chance to formulate a response today but there are secondary references to show that the Puttick reference is not only being used out of context but is actually factually incorrect and misleading in itself. [[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] 17:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Note: I'm going offline for a bit to get some sleep. Tauheed has been invited to the discussion. Let's give him at least 24 hours to respond. If he doesn't in that amount of time, we will work out a solution between the two of us. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 13:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:::No problem. Thanks for reminding me :-) Best [[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] 17:07, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Thanks Anyway, I'm taking off == |
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== References == |
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Thanks anyway for your invitation to talk, I've realized that wikipedia is no place for me though, it's too much drama, seems like too many negative people and spiritual articles don't get treated well in the long run anyway, they just get disparaged if they are up there for any length of time, look at Eckhart Tolle, Gangaji, etc. I figure it's best to just move on. Seems like mob rule on wikipedia and they aren't that friendly to spiritual articles anyway, would just be a fight all the time to get anything posted. I notice that a lot of famous people and organizations in this genre that I wanted to take part in are blatantly missing for some reason, and I have too much to do in real life than to take on fighting with people who are unaware. Life's too short. I can see why college professors strictly prohibit use of wikipedia as a source of information, now. It's not accurate or dependable information, nice idea though if it worked. Good luck to you and I hope you are able to bring some light and truth to wikipedia. If you can deal with the immaturity here, my hat is off to you! Namaste. ([[User:SpiritBeing|SpiritBeing]] ([[User talk:SpiritBeing|talk]]) 09:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)SpiritBeing) |
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Try these three pages: [[WP:LAYOUT]], [[WP:CITE]] and [[WP:FOOT]]. They will have links to lead you into more detailed waters. [[User:IPSOS|IPSOS]] ([[User talk:IPSOS|talk]]) 20:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Do you know if Tauheed has proposed an alternative to your edits? Have you had some time to think about this? [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 00:53, 27 July 2008 (UTC) |
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Dear Renee; |
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{{Talkback|Viriditas}} |
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I didn't change my signature. Someone did that back in September 2006.I believe it was user 244. Avyakt7 was my user name in the brahmakumaris.info site before i was banned by him (user 244.) I have taken care of that so my signature name should match my user name. Best, [[User:Riveros11|Riveros11]] 22:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==Devine== |
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I meant that someone made that change without my permission. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University/Archive02#brahmakumaris.info_page] as you can see I was signing with my normal user name. It appears to me that the archives have been reduced. I cannot find some things there which i used to see before. Best Wishes, [[User:Riveros11|Riveros11]] 23:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi Renee. Thanks for your input to the RfC at the [[Miranda Devine]] article some weeks ago. The RfC was only delisted a few minutes ago. There were originally 3 paragraphs of criticism. Most editors involved in the RfC thought the 2nd & 3rd paragraphs should go. You kindly rewrote the 1st paragraph on the discussion page, so I just copied and pasted your paragraph into the article. Regards, --'''[[User:Lester|<span style="color:green">Lester</span>]]''' 06:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Actually, after I wrote the above message, an anon-IP has deleted all the text again :( --'''[[User:Lester|<span style="color:green">Lester</span>]]''' 01:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Great White Brotherhood== |
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== Finding citations == |
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Hi Renee. I was just looking at the [[Great White Brotherhood]] article, which is (I think) a real mess. For instance, the History section [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White_Brotherhood#History] claims that the source of the teaching about the Great White Brotherhood originated from a writer called Karl von Eckartshausen....which is news to me, and might be OR. |
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Google: first Google news, then web, and a bit of patience going through the results. [[User:IPSOS|IPSOS]] ([[User talk:IPSOS|talk]]) 19:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC) |
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For obvious reasons I am disinclined to work on it, but it occurred to me that you might be interested in doing a good deed for Wikipedia. |
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:.........and then buy some books and read them like the rest of us do. libraries can also be useful |
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I hope you are having a good summer. [[User:Malcolm Schosha|Malcolm Schosha]] ([[User talk:Malcolm Schosha|talk]]) 14:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:I know the Bkwsu very well , i have also read the literature.......it would help a great deal if you could also , google really does not even scrape the surface . thanks[[User:Green108|Green108]] 02:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Sorry about being slow to reply, but have been busy with work...and a little argument over a WP article. |
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== Deleted Talk == |
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I deleted the talk because in the past the talk page has been flooded with ranting by various suspected, and sometimes discovered, sockpuppets. So I'm inclined to nip these things in the bud now. Also the post was a bit attacking. And finally since it was practically an admission of disregard for wikilaw past and present, "trying to block you if they can , it has been going on for a year and has happened before", so it could be seen as a ''mercy deletion''. |
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:It is, of course, just a suggestion and I do not know if you would find the subject interesting. The teaching of the White Brotherhood (the Masters), seems to have spread from the writings of Helena Blavatsky, and the teaching was very important to Alice Bailey. For instance, the connection of Masters with each of the Seven Rays. This link gives some Bailey quotes about the origin of the the White Lodge [http://www.hiddenhistoryhumanity.com43%20Esoteric%20History%20IIIa%20SthAmMayaShamBraz.htm] |
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I'm happy to leave such posts from now on but let's review the situation if they become too intense and frequent as has sometimes happened on this article. |
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:[[K. Paul Johnson]] has made a scholarly study (which I have not read), that give a more sceptical view. I know there is plenty of information if you would find it interesting to dig a little. [[User:Malcolm Schosha|Malcolm Schosha]] ([[User talk:Malcolm Schosha|talk]]) 15:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC) |
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== foot-in-the-door technique == |
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Thanks & regards [[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] 08:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi -- I [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Foot-in-the-door_technique&diff=236681812&oldid=232185134 corrected] your description of the drink-and-drive experiment in the article on the [[foot-in-the-door technique]]. The way you'd described it, the effect would be unsurprising -- people who agree to signing the petition would of course be more likely to agree to a taxi; that wouldn't be evidence in favor of the foot-in-the-door technique. [[User:Joriki|Joriki]] ([[User talk:Joriki|talk]]) 16:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Other things == |
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"I'd like to finish up my work on this article and move on to other things" - and I'd like to help out with other things too! I am so grateful for the effort you, IPSOS, Rumiton, Utcursch and others have put in and I kind of feel I'd like to pay back somehow. |
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== Help with BKWSU article analysis == |
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Please let me know if you need my support on a project or know of other areas I may be able to help. I am looking out for rfc's I can comment on as a start. |
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Hi Renee, |
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Been away for a while but happy to be back. Hope I you are happy and well :-) |
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I was wondering if I could tap on your NPOV skills. In 2007 I did an [[User:Bksimonb/BKWSU_Article_Analysis|analysis]] of the BKWSU article where I could highlight the problems I had with it at the time. This technique was quite successful in bringing in uninvolved editors as it makes clear what needs attention in the article i.e. makes it easy for them. I plan to attract more experienced editors in the same way who preferably don't have any connections to NRMs that could be interpreted as "pro", since that was a problem for me especially the last time I was around. In fact I would rather editors with an "anti" background did the actual editing as long as they put the ideals of Wikipedia ''first'' before their own views. That way the article is more likely to stick without the usual accusations of COI that get flung at me and other editor who dares to go near the BKWSU article. The new analysis I am working on is [[User:Bksimonb/BKWSU_Article_Analysis_2|here]] and I would be grateful, only if you have any time, if you could look over it and mark it up in red in the same way as I have started. If you want to pass on this then that's OK too. |
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Regards [[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] 12:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Much appreciated [[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] ([[User talk:Bksimonb|talk]]) 20:01, 4 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::Dear BKsimonb -- welcome back. I'll take a look at it over there. Thanks, [[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] ([[User talk:Reneeholle#top|talk]]) 14:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:You know what. I didn't even realise I was sometimes called Simon, sometimes SimonB and sometimes Bksimonb. I guess that must mean I am happy with any of those :-) Regards [[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] 14:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Wow, imagine my surprise to find that you've made [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lassa_fever&diff=prev&oldid=302043087 this edit]. What are the odds that we share the same reading list? :-) [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Thank you so much for your helpful edit of the article! It felt like a ray of light. [[User:Kwork|Kwork]] 22:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:''[[Three Cups of Tea]]'' is a real mess. If I start working on it, please keep an eye over your shoulder. Thanks. :-) [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::The photo was taken by [[Steve Jurvetson]]. His [http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/ photostream] on [[Flickr]] is one of the best; I highly recommend it. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 08:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== Claude Anshin Thomas == |
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Have you had a chance to read ''At Hell's Gate: A Soldier's Journey from War to Peace'', by Claude Anshin Thomas? I thought you might be the person to ask. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:31, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:Cool. Hope you're doing well. :) [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== Eye of the Whale == |
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I haven't had a chance to read this yet, but it's an ecological thriller based on real science. I think it might interest you. It's ''Eye of the Whale'' by Douglas Carlton Abrams. You can preview the book [http://books.google.com/books?id=T_dAKBW0ss8C&dq=%22eye+of+the+whale%22&source=gbs_navlinks_s here] to see if it is something you might like. The publisher's site is [http://books.simonandschuster.com/Eye-of-the-Whale/Douglas-Carlton-Abrams/9781416532545 here]. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 09:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the barnstar! :) [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:49, 16 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== Happy holidays == |
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Aloha. Two more books for you: Mortenson's ''Stones into Schools'' has been out for several weeks now, and I received a new copy as a gift. ''[http://www.amazon.com/Alex-Me-Scientist-Discovered-Intelligence/dp/0061673986 Alex & Me]'' (2008) came out about a year ago, but I think you might like it. It's about psychologist [[Irene Pepperberg]] and her research work with [[Alex (bird)|Alex]], an African Grey Parrot. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 12:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== Brahma Kumaris == |
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OK, can you tell me what is wrong with the statement and reference that I added? |
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Thank you. --[[User:Fear based teachings|Fear based teachings]] ([[User talk:Fear based teachings|talk]]) 07:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC) |
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::There may be nothing wrong with it and it probably just got reverted with all of the other changes. But, before adding it (and giving the apparent animosity between you and the other editor), let's please talk about it first. Please see the talk page, I've asked you to post it there so you can do just that. [[User:Reneeholle|Renee]] ([[User talk:Reneeholle#top|talk]]) 13:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC) |
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== Archive and disruption == |
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Hi Renee, |
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I was about to archive the page then I saw [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox's]] suggestion to keep a list of issues on the Talk page. So I suggest keeping it as-is for now. |
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Also, a new account has sprung up immediately after the previous two were blocked. Although we are in our rights to revert disruption I realise that it isn't immediately obvious to outsiders that it isn't just another edit war. Based on our experience of the last day or so I recommend that we don't revert or respond at all to an account behaving like Lucy until it has been blocked. We are never going to get any sense out of him. I have come to the conclusion that he isn't here to work with other editors or towards a balanced article. He is here to sway public opinion against the BKWSU and anyone who crosses his path, such as me. |
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<del>Will continue our discussion on the talk page once it's clear of disruption again.</del> |
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Regards, |
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[[User:Bksimonb|Bksimonb]] ([[User talk:Bksimonb|talk]]) 10:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC) |
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==Vandal back== |
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Thanks for your note. I've semi-protected both pages. However given the circumstances I'm not sure anything more can be done. <b>[[User:Will Beback|<span style="color:#595454;">Will Beback</span>]] [[User talk:Will Beback|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">talk</span>]] </b> 21:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Thank you
[edit]Thank you for the barnstar; it's been enormously tiring and stressful and I really do appreciate it. I also wanted to thank you for helping with the discussions at Talk:Hogenakkal Falls and elsewhere. Your contributions are always welcome. SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 22:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- And thanks from me as well. Discussions of this sort can get very tiring, and it very much helps to have someone say thank you. I just wish the situation was such that such tireless effort wasn't required. Oh, well. John Carter (talk) 22:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Footnote
[edit]Yes, I'm sending you an e-mail with my e-mail address in it. Please send me the report. Hope you don't take this personally, but I believe in the "Trust but verify" principle. :) Marathi_Mulgaa (talk) 00:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Totally understand. I just sent it so you should receive it shortly. Renee (talk) 12:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Your comments are welcome
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wishing you happiness, Sethie (talk) 15:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Wow Renee.
Your post on ANI blew me away- so clear, concise and very civil. Wow. Sethie (talk) 20:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggested read/book on peptides and emotions. --DennisDaniels (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Request for Mediation: John Howard
[edit]Hello. A request for mediation has been lodged for the John Howard article, concerning whether information about an incident between John Howard and Barack Obama should be included or deleted from the article. The link for the RfM is Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/John_Howard. The issue is still being discussed on the article talk page. Please go to the RfM page and list whether you agree or disagree to be involved in mediation of this issue. Thank you, Lester 01:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Sahaj Marg
[edit]I've been following the discussions on the Sahaj Marg page due to an interest in Cult Free World on another article. I won't be editing this article but I thought you might find this useful. I've left this same message on User:Marathi mulgaa's page.
http://books.google.com/books?id=0YYYAAAAIAAJ&q=Sahaj+Marg&dq=Sahaj+Marg&lr=&pgis=1
--PTR (talk) 16:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the barnstar. You're very welcome. I found it using books.google.com from the Google advanced search page. There's also a scholar.google.com and http://news.google.com/archivesearch --PTR (talk) 16:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I have taken care of the concerns that you raised at this afd. Would you care to reanalyze your opinion? Thanks,--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
YO
[edit]The "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | ||
You have come up with more then a few great to suggestions to break gridlocks as of late.... and if you keep up such nonsense, level-headedness and reliance on wiki policy I see an adminship in your future! Sethie (talk) 17:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
The Wolf Hunter
[edit]I don't see how any one has a right to delete some ones work from here. Wikipedia is a Encyclopedia for people to gain knowledge about things in life, pop culture and things from around the world. The Wolf Hunter film it's self is a film that has lots of fans and supporters as does the character. I think just because its not as well known as Freddy or Jason does not mean it should not be on here. I have already seen that some one else has edited the article as well. I think that if this does go off its a shame and what kind of Encyclopedia for the people rob people from learning about films and characters from a independent film.
--bloodline video 06:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- You need to have a few secondary sources (i.e., like from newspapers or magazines) that discuss the work. Articles without sources are frequently deleted so it's not just you, it's a common thing to ensure the encyclopedic quality of Wikipedia. I did a quick Google news search and couldn't find anything, but maybe you know of some? If you add some in let me know. Good luck! Renee (talk) 12:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
RM
[edit]http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Real_Madrid_C.F.&diff=216049183&oldid=216048771
'rvt vandalism'? You are propogating it. 88.106.94.7 (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- This is what I reverted, my friend.Renee (talk) 02:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- : I apologise then; don't really edit much on Wikipedia, I just tried to revert the article back to the vandalism I tried to fix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.94.7 (talk) 18:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Re your question on my talk page - it wasn't strictly speaking vandalism, it was simply promotional or advertising (WP:SPAM; WP:ADVERT). Either way, it had to go. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Orderinchaos 06:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Request for mediation not accepted
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Comet AfD
[edit]Thanks for pointing that out. I tagged it with TWINKLE, so it must have missed it for some reason. I'll clean it up. -- Mark Chovain 02:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
No problem
[edit]It was just a confusion in the edit history. Thanks for letting me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Squaty squater (talk • contribs) 00:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
BLP noticeboard
[edit]It was at WT:BLP [2] when i suggested it should be on the notice board. Yeah, the notice board is the best place to ask such questions Gnangarra 03:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
10 Maxims
[edit]Pls let me know what you think about this proposal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sahaj_Marg#Proposal_-_Ten_Maxims
Marathi_Mulgaa (talk) 20:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Category:Croatian-Australian_Socceroos has come up for deletion at CfD. As this category was created as a result of this AfD, which you participated in, I thought you might have an opinion on this debate as well. This is a blanket notice that is being sent out to everyone who participated in that AfD. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC).
Tauheed Ashraf GM changes
[edit]The changes made for the Greg Mortenson Early Life Section are made since Greg himself is not a Lutheran missionary, please allow this update since it is needed to showcase him in that light. http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Greg_Mortenson&action=edit§ion=1
Tauheed_Ashraf (talk) 06:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Offline
[edit]Note: I'm going offline for a bit to get some sleep. Tauheed has been invited to the discussion. Let's give him at least 24 hours to respond. If he doesn't in that amount of time, we will work out a solution between the two of us. Viriditas (talk) 13:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Anyway, I'm taking off
[edit]Thanks anyway for your invitation to talk, I've realized that wikipedia is no place for me though, it's too much drama, seems like too many negative people and spiritual articles don't get treated well in the long run anyway, they just get disparaged if they are up there for any length of time, look at Eckhart Tolle, Gangaji, etc. I figure it's best to just move on. Seems like mob rule on wikipedia and they aren't that friendly to spiritual articles anyway, would just be a fight all the time to get anything posted. I notice that a lot of famous people and organizations in this genre that I wanted to take part in are blatantly missing for some reason, and I have too much to do in real life than to take on fighting with people who are unaware. Life's too short. I can see why college professors strictly prohibit use of wikipedia as a source of information, now. It's not accurate or dependable information, nice idea though if it worked. Good luck to you and I hope you are able to bring some light and truth to wikipedia. If you can deal with the immaturity here, my hat is off to you! Namaste. (SpiritBeing (talk) 09:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)SpiritBeing)
Update
[edit]Do you know if Tauheed has proposed an alternative to your edits? Have you had some time to think about this? Viriditas (talk) 00:53, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
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Devine
[edit]Hi Renee. Thanks for your input to the RfC at the Miranda Devine article some weeks ago. The RfC was only delisted a few minutes ago. There were originally 3 paragraphs of criticism. Most editors involved in the RfC thought the 2nd & 3rd paragraphs should go. You kindly rewrote the 1st paragraph on the discussion page, so I just copied and pasted your paragraph into the article. Regards, --Lester 06:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, after I wrote the above message, an anon-IP has deleted all the text again :( --Lester 01:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Great White Brotherhood
[edit]Hi Renee. I was just looking at the Great White Brotherhood article, which is (I think) a real mess. For instance, the History section [3] claims that the source of the teaching about the Great White Brotherhood originated from a writer called Karl von Eckartshausen....which is news to me, and might be OR.
For obvious reasons I am disinclined to work on it, but it occurred to me that you might be interested in doing a good deed for Wikipedia.
I hope you are having a good summer. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 14:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry about being slow to reply, but have been busy with work...and a little argument over a WP article.
- It is, of course, just a suggestion and I do not know if you would find the subject interesting. The teaching of the White Brotherhood (the Masters), seems to have spread from the writings of Helena Blavatsky, and the teaching was very important to Alice Bailey. For instance, the connection of Masters with each of the Seven Rays. This link gives some Bailey quotes about the origin of the the White Lodge [4]
- K. Paul Johnson has made a scholarly study (which I have not read), that give a more sceptical view. I know there is plenty of information if you would find it interesting to dig a little. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 15:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
foot-in-the-door technique
[edit]Hi -- I corrected your description of the drink-and-drive experiment in the article on the foot-in-the-door technique. The way you'd described it, the effect would be unsurprising -- people who agree to signing the petition would of course be more likely to agree to a taxi; that wouldn't be evidence in favor of the foot-in-the-door technique. Joriki (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Help with BKWSU article analysis
[edit]Hi Renee, Been away for a while but happy to be back. Hope I you are happy and well :-)
I was wondering if I could tap on your NPOV skills. In 2007 I did an analysis of the BKWSU article where I could highlight the problems I had with it at the time. This technique was quite successful in bringing in uninvolved editors as it makes clear what needs attention in the article i.e. makes it easy for them. I plan to attract more experienced editors in the same way who preferably don't have any connections to NRMs that could be interpreted as "pro", since that was a problem for me especially the last time I was around. In fact I would rather editors with an "anti" background did the actual editing as long as they put the ideals of Wikipedia first before their own views. That way the article is more likely to stick without the usual accusations of COI that get flung at me and other editor who dares to go near the BKWSU article. The new analysis I am working on is here and I would be grateful, only if you have any time, if you could look over it and mark it up in red in the same way as I have started. If you want to pass on this then that's OK too. Much appreciated Bksimonb (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Dear BKsimonb -- welcome back. I'll take a look at it over there. Thanks, Renee (talk) 14:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: Lassa fever
[edit]Wow, imagine my surprise to find that you've made this edit. What are the odds that we share the same reading list? :-) Viriditas (talk) 11:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Three Cups of Tea is a real mess. If I start working on it, please keep an eye over your shoulder. Thanks. :-) Viriditas (talk) 09:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- The photo was taken by Steve Jurvetson. His photostream on Flickr is one of the best; I highly recommend it. Viriditas (talk) 08:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Claude Anshin Thomas
[edit]Have you had a chance to read At Hell's Gate: A Soldier's Journey from War to Peace, by Claude Anshin Thomas? I thought you might be the person to ask. Viriditas (talk) 11:31, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Cool. Hope you're doing well. :) Viriditas (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Eye of the Whale
[edit]I haven't had a chance to read this yet, but it's an ecological thriller based on real science. I think it might interest you. It's Eye of the Whale by Douglas Carlton Abrams. You can preview the book here to see if it is something you might like. The publisher's site is here. Viriditas (talk) 09:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the barnstar! :) Viriditas (talk) 11:49, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Happy holidays
[edit]Aloha. Two more books for you: Mortenson's Stones into Schools has been out for several weeks now, and I received a new copy as a gift. Alex & Me (2008) came out about a year ago, but I think you might like it. It's about psychologist Irene Pepperberg and her research work with Alex, an African Grey Parrot. Viriditas (talk) 12:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Brahma Kumaris
[edit]OK, can you tell me what is wrong with the statement and reference that I added?
Thank you. --Fear based teachings (talk) 07:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
- There may be nothing wrong with it and it probably just got reverted with all of the other changes. But, before adding it (and giving the apparent animosity between you and the other editor), let's please talk about it first. Please see the talk page, I've asked you to post it there so you can do just that. Renee (talk) 13:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Archive and disruption
[edit]Hi Renee,
I was about to archive the page then I saw Beeblebrox's suggestion to keep a list of issues on the Talk page. So I suggest keeping it as-is for now.
Also, a new account has sprung up immediately after the previous two were blocked. Although we are in our rights to revert disruption I realise that it isn't immediately obvious to outsiders that it isn't just another edit war. Based on our experience of the last day or so I recommend that we don't revert or respond at all to an account behaving like Lucy until it has been blocked. We are never going to get any sense out of him. I have come to the conclusion that he isn't here to work with other editors or towards a balanced article. He is here to sway public opinion against the BKWSU and anyone who crosses his path, such as me.
Will continue our discussion on the talk page once it's clear of disruption again.
Regards, Bksimonb (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Vandal back
[edit]Thanks for your note. I've semi-protected both pages. However given the circumstances I'm not sure anything more can be done. Will Beback talk 21:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
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