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==Ichy and Scrathcy==
==Ichy and Scrathcy==
Not sure about this but I believe that '''Itchy''' and Scratchy are more likely to be paradies of Tom and Jerry rather than the Hppy Tree Friends, As they are a cat and mouse, also I believe that the Happy Tree Friends debuted after I&S. Any changes need to be made?
Not sure about this but I believe that '''Itchy''' and Scratchy are more likely to be paradies of Tom and Jerry rather than the Hppy Tree Friends, As they are a cat and mouse, also I believe that the Happy Tree Friends debuted after I&S. Any changes need to be made?
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Not sure about this but I believe that '''Itchy''' and Scratchy are more likely to be paradies of Tom and Jerry rather than the Happy Tree Friends, As they are a cat and mouse, also I believe that the Happy Tree Friends debuted after I&S. Any changes need to be made?
Not sure about this but I believe that '''Itchy''' and Scratchy are more likely to be paradies of Tom and Jerry rather than the Happy Tree Friends, As they are a cat and mouse, also I believe that the Happy Tree Friends debuted after I&S. Any changes need to be made?
-- 13:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
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Please, do not delete this article has it seem this is a part of deleting campaign of the simpsons. With out this article and others, many people will not understand about information and background about these subjects. [[User:JoeyLovesSports|JoeyLovesSports]] 01:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Please, do not delete this article has it seem this is a part of deleting campaign of the simpsons. With out this article and others, many people will not understand about information and background about these subjects. [[User:JoeyLovesSports|JoeyLovesSports]] 01:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== I have found proof that Springfield's KBBL-TV (Channel 6) is a Fox affiliate ==

I have read things about KBBL-TV/Channel 6 being thought to be a local Fox affiliate and people not 100% sure; but now I have discovered evidence on a Simpsons episode that KBBL-TV really is a Fox affiliate (in the Simpsons world anyway). The evidence is in the season 6 episode [[Sideshow Bob Roberts]]; in the scene with the televised debate hosted by Larry King, he mentions that their being broadcast on Fox, about a minute later Bart & Lisa look at the TV screen with electronic flames surrounding Mayor Quimby, a disclaimer says "Flames added electronically by Channel 6"; and there's the proof. '''Kieranthompson''' <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kieranthompson|Kieranthompson]] ([[User talk:Kieranthompson|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kieranthompson|contribs]]) 21:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== May 2009 ==

I read the discussion from 2007 in regards to whether this article should remain, and I know that some editors think this kind of page shouldn't be on wikipedia at all. I personally don't think a page such as this has the same burden of making sure everything has a reference next to it like an article about something in the real world, since the page deals exclusively with media in the universe of the show, but a few more refs would probably help. I also know that organizing it and keeping it from overflowing is challenging. I personally like this article, and think it should remain here, but I got a little dizzy while reading it because of the breakdown. I think a better way to organize this would be something like:

*section 1, television
**1a, television stations
**1b, television programs
**1c, television networks
*section 2, radio
**2a, radio stations
**2b, radio programs
*section 3, newspapers
*section 4, real-life comparisons

Any thoughts or comments are welcome. [[User:Zephyrnthesky|Zephyrnthesky]] ([[User talk:Zephyrnthesky|talk]]) 21:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Major rewrite ==

I just made a made major rewrite of the article so that it holds more out-of-universe information. My plan is to do a lot more work on it, but I have to respond to my GA review of [[History of The Simpsons]] right now. It will take some time before I get back to this article. --[[User:Maitch|Maitch]] ([[User talk:Maitch|talk]]) 09:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Notes to my self:
* Find other sources than the episode itself.
* Find better sourcing for Radioactive Man.
* <s>Check source for My Sister, My Sitter.</s>
* <s>Add stuff from [[alt.tv.simpsons]].</s>
* Add Bumblebee Man, <s>Channel 6, Scott Christian, Arnie Pie</s>, <s>KBBL</s>, <s>Springfield Shopper</s>, Bill and Marty, <s>Birch Barlow</s>
* Expand on <s>Journalism</s>, Movies, <s>Internet</s>
* Add season and year after each mentioned episode, e.g. "My Sister, My Sitter" (season 8, 1997)
--[[User:Maitch|Maitch]] ([[User talk:Maitch|talk]]) 13:30, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
:Just noticed your rewrite - great work! [[User:Theleftorium|Theleftorium]] <sup>[[User talk:Theleftorium|(talk)]]</sup> 14:51, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks. It still needs a lot of work though. At least it won't be deleted anytime soon. --[[User:Maitch|Maitch]] ([[User talk:Maitch|talk]]) 20:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

== Fox non-interference ==

<blockquote>When ''The Simpsons'' were developed for the half-hour show, [[James L. Brooks]] negotiated an unusual contract, in which the producers prevented the [[Fox network]] from interfering with the show. This contract made it possible to write several jokes about both the Fox network and [[Fox news]]. The fact that most networks use network notes to tinker with television shows is often parodied on ''The Simpsons''. '''Creator [[Matt Groening]] has commented that this contract puts ''The Simpsons'' in a unique position, while others have commented that it defies industry practices.'''
</blockquote>

The bolded sentence doesn't make much sense. Of COURSE it defies industry practice if The Simpsons is in a unique position... how could something unique not defy common practice? The way it's worded makes it seem that these unnamed "others" are disagreeing with Groening. Anyone have a suggested fix? Should we just remove everything after the comma as unsourced? --[[User:Dante Alighieri|Dante Alighieri]] | [[User talk:Dante Alighieri|Talk]] 19:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

:"While" does not always imply a contrastive sense. I could also write "The days were hot while we were on vacation". However, it may confuse people, so I have changed it to "and". Also, the lead should not be sourced. Those comments in the lead are already sourced in the "Network notes" section. --[[User:Maitch|Maitch]] ([[User talk:Maitch|talk]]) 09:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

::Your point is taken, but there are two different usages of "while" in the two cases above. Notably, the presence of the comma in the article sentence means that it cannot be taken in the fashion that you reference (in the "vacation" sentence"). Regardless, the issue is now moot. Thanks for the fix. --[[User:Dante Alighieri|Dante Alighieri]] | [[User talk:Dante Alighieri|Talk]] 02:09, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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Ichy and Scrathcy

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Not sure about this but I believe that Itchy and Scratchy are more likely to be paradies of Tom and Jerry rather than the Hppy Tree Friends, As they are a cat and mouse, also I believe that the Happy Tree Friends debuted after I&S. Any changes need to be made? 13:23, 14 April 2007

Merge

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I created this article in order to cut down on the vast number of articles on the simpsons, following the deletion of a few. Hopefully, this page can be expanded to include all media mentioned in the show - even those that wouldnt be worthy of their own page - both fictional and non fictional. Robdurbar 15:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Homer v. Lisa and the 8th Commandment

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Just wondering if it would be worth adding the cable references from the episode where the Simpsons steal cable, particularly the "Hear Me Roar" network for women (parody of Lifetime). There have been several cable spoofs on the Simpsons -- in that episode alone they have the Arts & Crafts channel mention, Poopsie the Clown being sold on some shopping channel, top hat theater (Playboy parody) and televised snail racing.

Also, that consumer watchdog show hosted by Kent Brockman is worth a mention?

Since I'm new to wikipedia, I guess I can just write information based on the episodes themselves and site the episode? Elocina 13:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This gets a bit messy

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Maybe it's better to make this a page about the TV and Radiostations and Papers only, and make an other page with TV Programs. This page is now not complete at all, there are quite a lot and that would mess things up here. I started the List of television programs in The Simpsons. What do you think? --Leoremy 15:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ichy and Scratchy

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Not sure about this but I believe that Itchy and Scratchy are more likely to be paradies of Tom and Jerry rather than the Happy Tree Friends, As they are a cat and mouse, also I believe that the Happy Tree Friends debuted after I&S. Any changes need to be made? -- 13:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Please, Do Not Delete

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Please, do not delete this article has it seem this is a part of deleting campaign of the simpsons. With out this article and others, many people will not understand about information and background about these subjects. JoeyLovesSports 01:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have found proof that Springfield's KBBL-TV (Channel 6) is a Fox affiliate

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I have read things about KBBL-TV/Channel 6 being thought to be a local Fox affiliate and people not 100% sure; but now I have discovered evidence on a Simpsons episode that KBBL-TV really is a Fox affiliate (in the Simpsons world anyway). The evidence is in the season 6 episode Sideshow Bob Roberts; in the scene with the televised debate hosted by Larry King, he mentions that their being broadcast on Fox, about a minute later Bart & Lisa look at the TV screen with electronic flames surrounding Mayor Quimby, a disclaimer says "Flames added electronically by Channel 6"; and there's the proof. Kieranthompson —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kieranthompson (talk • contribs) 21:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

May 2009

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I read the discussion from 2007 in regards to whether this article should remain, and I know that some editors think this kind of page shouldn't be on wikipedia at all. I personally don't think a page such as this has the same burden of making sure everything has a reference next to it like an article about something in the real world, since the page deals exclusively with media in the universe of the show, but a few more refs would probably help. I also know that organizing it and keeping it from overflowing is challenging. I personally like this article, and think it should remain here, but I got a little dizzy while reading it because of the breakdown. I think a better way to organize this would be something like:

  • section 1, television
    • 1a, television stations
    • 1b, television programs
    • 1c, television networks
  • section 2, radio
    • 2a, radio stations
    • 2b, radio programs
  • section 3, newspapers
  • section 4, real-life comparisons

Any thoughts or comments are welcome. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 21:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Major rewrite

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I just made a made major rewrite of the article so that it holds more out-of-universe information. My plan is to do a lot more work on it, but I have to respond to my GA review of History of The Simpsons right now. It will take some time before I get back to this article. --Maitch (talk) 09:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notes to my self:

  • Find other sources than the episode itself.
  • Find better sourcing for Radioactive Man.
  • Check source for My Sister, My Sitter.
  • Add stuff from alt.tv.simpsons.
  • Add Bumblebee Man, Channel 6, Scott Christian, Arnie Pie, KBBL, Springfield Shopper, Bill and Marty, Birch Barlow
  • Expand on Journalism, Movies, Internet
  • Add season and year after each mentioned episode, e.g. "My Sister, My Sitter" (season 8, 1997)

--Maitch (talk) 13:30, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed your rewrite - great work! Theleftorium (talk) 14:51, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It still needs a lot of work though. At least it won't be deleted anytime soon. --Maitch (talk) 20:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fox non-interference

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When The Simpsons were developed for the half-hour show, James L. Brooks negotiated an unusual contract, in which the producers prevented the Fox network from interfering with the show. This contract made it possible to write several jokes about both the Fox network and Fox news. The fact that most networks use network notes to tinker with television shows is often parodied on The Simpsons. Creator Matt Groening has commented that this contract puts The Simpsons in a unique position, while others have commented that it defies industry practices.

The bolded sentence doesn't make much sense. Of COURSE it defies industry practice if The Simpsons is in a unique position... how could something unique not defy common practice? The way it's worded makes it seem that these unnamed "others" are disagreeing with Groening. Anyone have a suggested fix? Should we just remove everything after the comma as unsourced? --Dante Alighieri | Talk 19:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"While" does not always imply a contrastive sense. I could also write "The days were hot while we were on vacation". However, it may confuse people, so I have changed it to "and". Also, the lead should not be sourced. Those comments in the lead are already sourced in the "Network notes" section. --Maitch (talk) 09:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your point is taken, but there are two different usages of "while" in the two cases above. Notably, the presence of the comma in the article sentence means that it cannot be taken in the fashion that you reference (in the "vacation" sentence"). Regardless, the issue is now moot. Thanks for the fix. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 02:09, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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