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Under the description of Restricted Rock, Paper, Scissors, the final line states that the stars are unofficially traded at a value of one or two million. In the anime, Kitami offers Kaiji a star for five million. He also claims that this price is only one million more than official price. It would be ridiculous for the officials to buy the stars at such a high price if the players were trading them for one or two million. Does any one have the manga so they can check this rather suspicious fact? [[User:148.85.201.136|148.85.201.136]] 04:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC) |
Under the description of Restricted Rock, Paper, Scissors, the final line states that the stars are unofficially traded at a value of one or two million. In the anime, Kitami offers Kaiji a star for five million. He also claims that this price is only one million more than official price. It would be ridiculous for the officials to buy the stars at such a high price if the players were trading them for one or two million. Does any one have the manga so they can check this rather suspicious fact? [[User:148.85.201.136|148.85.201.136]] 04:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:The officials don't buy them. Other players in need of stars buy them. Also, Kitami isn't exactly selling stars out of charity. He could just be making up the "official price", because really, desperate players are going to be more concerned with obtaining three stars total as a higher priority than their additional Espoir debt. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.215.251.166|66.215.251.166]] ([[User talk:66.215.251.166|talk]]) 09:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Page name == |
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Given all the sources claim the manga title is actually ''Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji'', and the tv series is just ''Kaiji'', this article really should be moved to [[Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji]]. Per the [[WP:MOS-AM|manual of style for anime and manga]], the title of the article should reflect the original version. Also, the article should discuss the original version first, followed by any adaptations; I've rewritten the lead to reflect this. —[[User:Quasirandom|Quasirandom]] ([[User talk:Quasirandom|talk]]) 01:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC) |
Given all the sources claim the manga title is actually ''Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji'', and the tv series is just ''Kaiji'', this article really should be moved to [[Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji]]. Per the [[WP:MOS-AM|manual of style for anime and manga]], the title of the article should reflect the original version. Also, the article should discuss the original version first, followed by any adaptations; I've rewritten the lead to reflect this. —[[User:Quasirandom|Quasirandom]] ([[User talk:Quasirandom|talk]]) 01:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC) |
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== Manga length and current status == |
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I've noticed a couple of times that the length and status of the Kaiji manga have been updated but then later reverted citing Anime News Network as a source, which lists it as ended in 1999 at 13 volumes. |
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ANN's listing is incorrect and out of date - the Kaiji manga is still currently running, and the 38th volume was released in tankoubon form on the 28th of December, 2007.[[User:Midshift|Midshift]] ([[User talk:Midshift|talk]]) 13:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:No, to my knowledge ANN's listing is correct. However, the key is that there are ''three'' ''Kaiji'' series, the first of which covers thirteen volumes and the first season of anime. This is the edition that ended in 1999; all subsequent ''Kaiji'' anthologies were started as sequels, but I don't know how long they are. I'll try to make a note of this in the info-box. [[User:Malintex Terek|Terek]] ([[User talk:Malintex Terek|talk]]) 19:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::It is apparent that the first 26 episodes will cover the first 13 chapters of the manga, but where is it stated that the series will stop there? ANN counts only as a rumor, here. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Anaholic|Anaholic]] ([[User talk:Anaholic|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Anaholic|contribs]]) 23:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::There are three series, each of which is 13 volumes long and completed. (Series three finished in April 2008.) A fourth series is inevitable, given the ending of the third series has Kaiji driving off with the Chairman's son(!!!), with talks of a final gamble for the long night. |
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Also, omake at the end of EPISODE 26 from Fukumoto himself states interest in a second anime series, obviously covering the second manga series, and is likely to also span 26 episodes, although no further information has been released. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.215.251.166|66.215.251.166]] ([[User talk:66.215.251.166|talk]]) 09:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Error in E-Card section? == |
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"The minimum wager was 1 millimetre and the maximum 10 millimetres" |
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Kaiji bets 18 mm in the last two matches though, this should be fixed I think. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/194.100.193.10|194.100.193.10]] ([[User talk:194.100.193.10|talk]]) 07:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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During most of the game it was. However, near the end Kaiji asked if he could bet more, and Kazutaka allowed it in hopes of seeing a new form of death. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.186.210.168|216.186.210.168]] ([[User talk:216.186.210.168|talk]]) 23:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The maximum bet was never established as 10, Kaiji simply has 30 millimeters of space to bet with until his eardrum is ruptured. What Kaiji asks for later is if he can bet using the entire length of the needle, which is 45 millimeters.[[User:Shiosai|Shiosai]] ([[User talk:Shiosai|talk]]) 13:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== Title == |
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"Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji" is an incorrect name for the anthology known as "Kaiji", since each of the ''Kaiji'' series go by a different name - series II isn't called Gambling Apocalypse, for example. And if there is ever going to be a season II of the anime it probably won't be called "Ultimate Survivor" either, it'll have a different title. So, we should just return the page's introduction name to just "Kaiji" and note that it includes three different manga serials with different names. [[User:Malintex Terek|Terek]] ([[User talk:Malintex Terek|talk]]) 08:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== Live Action Movie == |
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I'm not much for editing articles, but there's word on the street about a Live Action movie being made in Japan [http://thehealingtouch.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/news-of-the-now-rising-sun-edition-live-action-zawa/ source] |
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--[[Special:Contributions/136.142.46.33|136.142.46.33]] ([[User talk:136.142.46.33|talk]]) 20:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC) |
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So, is there going to be a separate article for the movie (thats already been released)??? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/123.243.30.245|123.243.30.245]] ([[User talk:123.243.30.245|talk]]) 12:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Coverage == |
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*[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/the-mike-toole-show/2011-01-02 ANN Brain Diving column] |
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--[[User:KrebMarkt|KrebMarkt]] ([[User talk:KrebMarkt|talk]]) 09:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC) |
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== Boo-urns == |
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This article pretty much spoils everything that happens in Kaiji. I'm too lazy to change it, but it should just give general information, not say when and how Kaiji wins/loses and what the rewards/consequences are. |
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--[[Special:Contributions/67.225.12.96|67.225.12.96]] ([[User talk:67.225.12.96|talk]]) 07:28, 29 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== 2nd season eps == |
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Why are all the air dates off by one day compared to the source? For example the source says episode 1 aired April 5, but in the article it reads April 6. --[[User:Mika1h|Mika1h]] ([[User talk:Mika1h|talk]]) 12:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== This page needs update == |
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It seems more chapters are out yet this page is really lagging behind, if possible, someone translate the Japanese version as it seems to have recent informations. |
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[[User:OussDB|OussDB]] ([[User talk:OussDB|talk]]) 00:45, 15 April 2016 (UTC) |
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== Mr. Tonegawa: Middle Management Blues == |
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I propose to create a separate article for Mr. Tonegawa: Middle Management Blues and move the Episodes to that page. I believe it is a different series and although it is a [[spin-off (media)|spin-off]], it has its own website [http://www.tonegawa-anime.com/ TVアニメ「中間管理録トネガワ」公式サイト]. I'm quite happy if someone else wants to do this. [[User:Ozflashman|Ozflashman]] ([[User talk:Ozflashman|talk]]) 07:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC) |
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[edit]- How do we move the "table of contents" from the info-box to right underneath the summary text at the top? Terek 21:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Under the description of Restricted Rock, Paper, Scissors, the final line states that the stars are unofficially traded at a value of one or two million. In the anime, Kitami offers Kaiji a star for five million. He also claims that this price is only one million more than official price. It would be ridiculous for the officials to buy the stars at such a high price if the players were trading them for one or two million. Does any one have the manga so they can check this rather suspicious fact? 148.85.201.136 04:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- The officials don't buy them. Other players in need of stars buy them. Also, Kitami isn't exactly selling stars out of charity. He could just be making up the "official price", because really, desperate players are going to be more concerned with obtaining three stars total as a higher priority than their additional Espoir debt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.251.166 (talk) 09:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Page name
[edit]Given all the sources claim the manga title is actually Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji, and the tv series is just Kaiji, this article really should be moved to Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji. Per the manual of style for anime and manga, the title of the article should reflect the original version. Also, the article should discuss the original version first, followed by any adaptations; I've rewritten the lead to reflect this. —Quasirandom (talk) 01:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Manga length and current status
[edit]I've noticed a couple of times that the length and status of the Kaiji manga have been updated but then later reverted citing Anime News Network as a source, which lists it as ended in 1999 at 13 volumes.
ANN's listing is incorrect and out of date - the Kaiji manga is still currently running, and the 38th volume was released in tankoubon form on the 28th of December, 2007.Midshift (talk) 13:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, to my knowledge ANN's listing is correct. However, the key is that there are three Kaiji series, the first of which covers thirteen volumes and the first season of anime. This is the edition that ended in 1999; all subsequent Kaiji anthologies were started as sequels, but I don't know how long they are. I'll try to make a note of this in the info-box. Terek (talk) 19:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- It is apparent that the first 26 episodes will cover the first 13 chapters of the manga, but where is it stated that the series will stop there? ANN counts only as a rumor, here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anaholic (talk • contribs) 23:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- There are three series, each of which is 13 volumes long and completed. (Series three finished in April 2008.) A fourth series is inevitable, given the ending of the third series has Kaiji driving off with the Chairman's son(!!!), with talks of a final gamble for the long night.
Also, omake at the end of EPISODE 26 from Fukumoto himself states interest in a second anime series, obviously covering the second manga series, and is likely to also span 26 episodes, although no further information has been released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.251.166 (talk) 09:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Error in E-Card section?
[edit]"The minimum wager was 1 millimetre and the maximum 10 millimetres"
Kaiji bets 18 mm in the last two matches though, this should be fixed I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.100.193.10 (talk) 07:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
During most of the game it was. However, near the end Kaiji asked if he could bet more, and Kazutaka allowed it in hopes of seeing a new form of death. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.210.168 (talk) 23:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- The maximum bet was never established as 10, Kaiji simply has 30 millimeters of space to bet with until his eardrum is ruptured. What Kaiji asks for later is if he can bet using the entire length of the needle, which is 45 millimeters.Shiosai (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Title
[edit]"Tobaku Mokushiroku Kaiji" is an incorrect name for the anthology known as "Kaiji", since each of the Kaiji series go by a different name - series II isn't called Gambling Apocalypse, for example. And if there is ever going to be a season II of the anime it probably won't be called "Ultimate Survivor" either, it'll have a different title. So, we should just return the page's introduction name to just "Kaiji" and note that it includes three different manga serials with different names. Terek (talk) 08:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Live Action Movie
[edit]I'm not much for editing articles, but there's word on the street about a Live Action movie being made in Japan source
--136.142.46.33 (talk) 20:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
So, is there going to be a separate article for the movie (thats already been released)??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.30.245 (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Coverage
[edit]--KrebMarkt (talk) 09:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Boo-urns
[edit]This article pretty much spoils everything that happens in Kaiji. I'm too lazy to change it, but it should just give general information, not say when and how Kaiji wins/loses and what the rewards/consequences are. --67.225.12.96 (talk) 07:28, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
2nd season eps
[edit]Why are all the air dates off by one day compared to the source? For example the source says episode 1 aired April 5, but in the article it reads April 6. --Mika1h (talk) 12:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
This page needs update
[edit]It seems more chapters are out yet this page is really lagging behind, if possible, someone translate the Japanese version as it seems to have recent informations. OussDB (talk) 00:45, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Mr. Tonegawa: Middle Management Blues
[edit]I propose to create a separate article for Mr. Tonegawa: Middle Management Blues and move the Episodes to that page. I believe it is a different series and although it is a spin-off, it has its own website TVアニメ「中間管理録トネガワ」公式サイト. I'm quite happy if someone else wants to do this. Ozflashman (talk) 07:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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