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== Error in lead? ==


It says General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis all have headquarters in Detroit, but when you click on their pages, only GM has a headquarters in Detroit. [[User:Mattximus|Mattximus]] ([[User talk:Mattximus|talk]]) 19:29, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
== [[Segregation]] section deleted reasons ==
Someone added a completely new section titled Segregation and it deals with the socioeconomic and racial divisions with [[Metro Detroit]] (I guess? At least I think that's what the paragraph is ''trying'' to talk about). I deleted it because it was offering no refs outside citing some facts that really were inadequate in supporting the idea. Some effort should be made in dealing with this issue to connect it with the other wikipedia topics such as [[white flight]] and [[gentrification]], and to begin it with "By any definition, the gulf between black and white is as wide or wider in Metro Detroit neighborhoods than any metropolitan region in the nation" is extremely poor writing, it is [[praeteritio]] and in fact is just wrong. The stupidest animal knows that there are completely segregated neighbourhoods in many regions- places where no blacks or no whites live. If the point is that Detroit has the highest concentration of African-Americans, then one sentence is needed and can be inserted somewhere else. If the topic is about racial divisions then much greater effort should be made to explain why Detroit has developed in this manner and why it persists. To label it segregation is very loaded too, it is too strong a term when compared to the legalized segregation of the American past, and fails to convey the complexity of the issue in Detroit. --[[User:Mikerussell|Mikerussell]] 01:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:True, but a better way to deal with such material is to edit it, clean it up, and, if no sources are offered, tag it. Chances are the user is using legitimate statistics, but hasn't included the source. If sources fail to be provided in a reasonable period of time, we can always delete it.--[[User:Loodog|Loodog]] 01:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
::If you can show me anywhere in wikipedia that you allow unsourced material to satnd in an article; moreover, poorly written and unsourced in a Feature Article even (as opposed to stub) then please do. You delete crap and let the author fix it later; I have a hard time telling what exactly the person wants to say so how can anyone "clean it up'? It reads like an attempt to characterize the city unfairly in my opinion and thus should be deleted now.--[[User:Mikerussell|Mikerussell]] 02:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Very well. I've left the author a note explaining that sources are needed so (s)he won't be discouraged from editing in the future. Go ahead and remove it, but we'll take more time on this if the author provides sources next time.--[[User:Loodog|Loodog]] 02:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Racial tension and segregation is a big factor in Detroit. [[Special:Contributions/69.209.140.145|69.209.140.145]] ([[User talk:69.209.140.145|talk]]) 02:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


:You are right! GM has it at the RenCen; I think they mean the Detroit area. [[Special:Contributions/206.57.152.111|206.57.152.111]] ([[User talk:206.57.152.111|talk]]) 14:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
== Most dangerous city ==


== Consistency in Translations ==
I used to live here and I think the fact that Detroit is ranked as the most dangerous city in the country by CQ Press is relevent to add. Would anyone object if I add this to the crime section (w/ ref)?
[[User:Burner0718|Burner0718]] ([[User talk:Burner0718|talk]]) 22:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
:Anything [[WP:N|notable]] and sourced should be included.--[[User:Loodog|Loodog]] ([[User talk:Loodog|talk]]) 01:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
::As long as it is well sourced I have no objections. &mdash;<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:MJCdetroit|<font color="#0000CD">'''MJC</font ><font color="#FF0000">detroit'''</font >]]</span> [[User_talk:MJCdetroit|<sup><font color="green">(yak)</font></sup>]] 01:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, thanks! I will. :-) [[User:Burner0718|Burner0718]] ([[User talk:Burner0718|talk]]) 19:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


In the history section we are saying "in the former colonies of [[New France]] and [[La Louisiane]], respectively." One is rendered in English, the other in French, despite the fact that both are 18th century French colonies.
The CQ report has been discredited by the FBI, the American Society of Criminologists (which has denounced it as an irresponsible use of crime statistics), the US conference of Mayors, and many police chiefs. The CQ report is not noteworthy, it is discussed the sub article.[[User:Thomas Paine1776|Thomas Paine1776]] ([[User talk:Thomas Paine1776|talk]]) 02:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:Have a source for it discrediting?--[[User:Loodog|Loodog]] ([[User talk:Loodog|talk]]) 02:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::If you think it should be removed, tell me why it should. I think it should stay in because despite it being "discredited", lots of people still pay attention to them. Having lived here before, I'd like Detroit to improve as much as the next guy, but I know how bad it is and I believe it belongs. Thank you. :-) [[User:Burner0718|Burner0718]] ([[User talk:Burner0718|talk]]) 22:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


I recommend we either say "La Nouvelle France" and La Louisiane," or we say "New France" and "Louisiana." &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Muckapedia|Muckapedia]]&nbsp;([[User_talk:Muckapedia|talk]])&nbsp;5<span style="font-size:x-small;"><sup>e</sup></span>&nbsp;sept.&nbsp;2024&nbsp;9h24&nbsp;(−4h) 13:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
The CQ report has been discredited by the FBI, the American Society of Criminologists which has passsed a resolution against the report (and denounced it as an irresponsible use of crime statistics), the US conference of Mayors has challenged it, as well as many police chiefs.([http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-16-2007/0004707515&EDATE= Criminologists Condemn City crime rankings (11/16/2007] PRNewswire). These organizations do not consider it noteworthy, but seriously flawed enough to publically come out against it; however, it is discussed in the sub-article on crime. Responsible sources are no longer citing the report without mentioning that it is discredited. The FBI recommends against use of its crime statistics for the direct comparison of cities as Morgan Quitno/CQ does in its "Most Dangerous Cities" rankings.[http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-16-2007/0004707515&EDATE=] This is due to the many variables that influence crime in a particular study area such as population density and the degree of urbanization, modes of transportation of highway system, economic conditions, and citizens' attitudes toward crime.([http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucrquest.htm FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Summary]) In November 2007, the executive board of the American Society of Criminology (ASC) approved a resolution opposing the development of city crime rankings from FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCRs). The resolution states the rankings "represent an irresponsible misuse of the data and do groundless harm to many communities" and "work against a key goal of our society, which is a better understanding of crime-related issues by both scientists and the public.[http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-16-2007/0004707515&EDATE=] The U.S. Conference of Mayors has criticized the "Most Dangerous Cities" list, saying the annual city-by-city crime rankings are "distorted and damaging to cities' reputations.[http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-18-2007/0004707938&EDATE=]. In October 2007, the American Society of Criminology, the U.S. Conference of Mayors, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation requested that the publisher reconsider the promotion of the book — specifically, "their inaccurate and inflammatory press release labeling cities as 'safest' and 'most dangerous'" — because the rankings are "baseless and damaging. [http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/41A85C43D2B421E186257396001D38A2?OpenDocument].[[User:Thomas Paine1776|Thomas Paine1776]] ([[User talk:Thomas Paine1776|talk]]) 22:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:Ok, I guess you're right. Never mind. But me and every other person who lives or has lived or even visited here knows how bad it is. :-) [[User:Burner0718|Burner0718]] ([[User talk:Burner0718|talk]]) 22:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


:I’m [[Special:Contributions/24.192.128.108|24.192.128.108]] ([[User talk:24.192.128.108|talk]]) 08:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Also, what many don't realize is that the Detroit area is a multi-boundaried and varied region without radial symmetry which can distort comparisons. The types of crimes can distort comparions. Eg. Drug related crimes which affect isolated areas might distort comparisons while affecting primarly those particular sections. Detroit has many great neighorhoods though. Police chiefs have taken issue as well.[http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A36610] Many cities or regions have high crime sections. Detroit's crime has dropped dramatically and continues to improve.[http://www.tedconline.com/uploads/Downtown_Detroit_Crime_Study_2006.pdf] The recent Social Compact study found Detroit's demographic trends to be significantly improved from the 2000 census.[http://www.crainsdetroit.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070625/SUB/70623003/-1/newsletter02]. [[User:Thomas Paine1776|Thomas Paine1776]] ([[User talk:Thomas Paine1776|talk]]) 23:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:Doraine Chandler I’m not your dad anymore [[Special:Contributions/24.192.128.108|24.192.128.108]] ([[User talk:24.192.128.108|talk]]) 08:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
::What? [[User:Avman89|Mirza Ahmed]] ([[User talk:Avman89|talk]]) 06:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== The links to Canada ==
Dude, Detroit a pretty bad city. The crime rate isn't getting better as fast people would like to believe, as detroits crime rate is still higher than places like san franscico (although that place has it's own problems). Personally, if it's referenced properly, it needs to be in there. [[User:RC-0722|Kimu]] ([[User talk:RC-0722|talk]]) 16:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


They are at present building a new bridge; can someone add that? It is called the Gordie Howe International Bridge in case you do add it. It is done in 2025...I think. [[Special:Contributions/206.57.152.111|206.57.152.111]] ([[User talk:206.57.152.111|talk]]) 14:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
::Look, the information about the crime rate here can be depicted in any number of potentially biased ways. Going to a (hopefully) objective comparison, I googled "worst crime city". From their arbitrariness, we can take the resulting rankings to be unbiased. The [http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime1.aspx first result] doesn't mention Detroit. The [http://realtytimes.com/rtpages/20000928_placestolive.htm second source] calls Detroit the #1 most dangerous. The third doesn't mention crime. The [http://www.morganquitno.com/cit04a.pdf 4th] gives Detroit the 9th highest violent crime rate. The 5th and 6th are forums. The 7th is about NYC. The [http://blog.al.com/archiblog/2008/01/city_among_worst_in_all_types.html 8th], puts Detroit as at least 6th worst. Clearly, the objective crime statistics in Detroit are something to be mentioned, without excuses.


:Already in the article [[Detroit#Transportation|here]] [[User:LaffyTaffer|LaffyTaffer]] ([[User talk:LaffyTaffer|talk]]) 14:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
::Tom, all these things you mention about Detroit being a multibordered region without radial symmetry, is just as true as the next city. And in cases that it isn't, you're explaining (OR) statistics, not reporting them. Then you mention the situation as "improving". You're certainly welcome to include that in the article, but the rate of change of crime has nothing to do with the level itself, which is the more relevant quantity.--[[User:Loodog|Loodog]] ([[User talk:Loodog|talk]]) 22:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::Every city has good neighborhoods and bad ones. The objective crime statistics include '''all of it'''.--[[User:Loodog|Loodog]] ([[User talk:Loodog|talk]]) 22:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, and please consider that Detroit is the most affected place in the recent forceclosure crisis, as well as the automobile industry downturn. [[User:Ruennsheng|Zero]] ([[User talk:Ruennsheng|talk]]) 06:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
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== Surrounding Municipalities? ==
== "Too long" tag ==


Does anyone think it's necessary to have the tag that says "This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably"? I don't see any difference between this article and articles of other cities that don't have the tag. [[User:T Yorke|T Yorke]] ([[User talk:T Yorke|talk]]) 02:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
The [[Detroit%2C_Michigan#Surrounding_municipalities|surrounding municipalities]] seem really inaccurate. Isn't this section intended to list directly adjacent municipalities? Ann Arbor is indeed west of Detroit, but an awful long way to be included here, especially before Livonia. Lake Erie is south, but a long way south. --[[User:Locano|Locano]] ([[User talk:Locano|talk]]) 03:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


:This article is nearly 15k words of readable prose, and is in need of being streamlined per the [[WP:SS|summary style guideline]]. If there are other city articles of similar length they should also be addressed. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 03:03, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
==NPOV==


== Montage ==
I'm trying to get us past some claims like "powerhouse" "high energy rock" "top venues" -- how do we substantiate such claims? The encyclopedia isn't for promoting tourism, it's for recording fact and consensus. If we can establish it as simple, sober fact, or universally recognized consensus, that the city is particularly noted for its avid hockey fans, cool -- I lived there for twenty years, and didn't think it was especially ahead of St. Louis with its Blues. But this is not the place for promotion and boosterism. [[User:DavidOaks|DavidOaks]] ([[User talk:DavidOaks|talk]]) 02:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


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::I hate to get into a revert war, but a CITY doesn't ''have'' a "marque," nor a "panorama," and we would need to figure out exactly how particular neighborhoods "contribute to quality of life," in a sense that isn't just as legitimately asserted for particular flowerbeds at particular streetcorners, or a good supply of Starbucks and any other pleasant thing one can think of. It's not meaningful. If an area is "reclaimed," that's a loaded expresion -- the previous users might dispute that. The "dominance" of live music is hard to maintain against the variety of other things that participate in a city's nightlife -- the idea is to remain in the realm of objective, verifiable statements. This stuff should not be restored until it can be reliably sourced as fact. Moreover -- the various styles of architecture co-exsit -- to assert that they blend is to claim an aesthetic harmony which is frankly in dispute. To say the city spawned a particular flavor of R&R is also a claim very much in need of sourcing; to call that style "energetic" is hard to make sense of -- the rest of Rock ''isn't'' energetic? I mean, there's a long list of really quite minor adjustments that were made to render the thing more objective and factual. [[User:DavidOaks|DavidOaks]] ([[User talk:DavidOaks|talk]]) 01:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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You seem misinformed about the area. We'll find references overtime for the some of the content for which you are concerned. While your edits may be in good faith, you seem unfamiliar with the terms of art in particular fields. Reclaimed is the proper term, eminent domain has been used to reclaim much of the land, its been an ongoing event. The author of the music section also used the correct term, a Detroit genre was "high energy rock" in the late 1960s and 1970s. The writers of the music section are also correct that live music has been a dominant feature of the city's nightlife, the Motown moniker is recognized worldwide. Authors cite the Renaissance Center as defining the city's skyline, its also frequently used as a 'marque' of the city skyline. Revitalized and well maintained neighborhoods have enhanced the quality of life in the city. There has been a wealth of news stories on the city's revitalization. The Comerica Tower was designed to blend with the city's historic skyline. The description is accurate. Detroit's skyline is also recognized as one of the panoramic waterfront skylines, while others may be for mountains, valleys, as so on. While your edits may be in good faith, they have the effect of distorting or obfuscating some of legitimate content message.[[User:Thomas Paine1776|Thomas Paine1776]] ([[User talk:Thomas Paine1776|talk]]) 02:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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:::Sources will be great. More focused expression will help, too. There's a difference between "blends in with" (an aesthetic judgment, subject to strong disagreement) and "was designed to blend in with" -- your revised version is an improvement. A marque is a marketing concept, and if there is a marketing organization that intends to design a skyline, they should be named. Instead of wholesale reversion, work through the points where you differ with my alterations one at a time, and we'll build consensus. I'm sure your efforts too are in good faith, but they have the effect of creating promotional literature rather than encyclopedic reporting. [[User:DavidOaks|DavidOaks]] ([[User talk:DavidOaks|talk]])
| alt1 = Downtown Detroit skyline
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| caption2 = [[Fox Theatre (Detroit)|Fox Theatre]]
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| image7 = Motown Museum Detroit (52755960301).jpg
| alt7 = Hitsville U.S.A.
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I'd like to propose changing the images in the infobox to those appearing to the right (after receiving pushback from [[User:T Yorke|T Yorke]]). Namely, I'd like to change the skyline image to the proposed because the current image is from 2015; this new image is from 2024. While I can appreciate that this image is not encompassing every building in downtown Detroit at the scope of the old image, it does feature the skyline in substantial part--featuring the new Hudson's development--and is a daylight image.


Because this image more prominently features the RenCen, I removed it from the montage and added the Ford Piquette Avenue Plant as a representation of the city's history. Looking for community input as to updating the images in the montage. Thanks! [[User:636Buster|636Buster]] ([[User talk:636Buster|talk]]) 22:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::There was a time when this article was overly negative and a balance had been reached. Most of your current revisions are fine. A few of the sentences of concern to you were aimed at being clear, sharp, concise and more readable, not 'promotional'. Simply stated, a postive fact is not a bad thing. These articles should be interesting for the reader. A 'marque' can be marketing, but it is not necessarily so. The term is appropriate and probably should have been phrased as 'marque of skyscrapers' but your re-wording is fine. The architectural point being the historic skyline's description along side the Renaissance Center has in effect become a reconized 'marque of skycrapers'. The statement that the architecture of the city is among the finest is from the sourced content review. The statement on 'millions of visitors' is from the sourced content. The article has been very careful about making claims and the article is one of the best of its type as one of the more well sourced. The idea has been to write it in an interesting way that is not a long drawn out explanation which will not be read. The wholesale reversion you note had a few changes, but the thought was that the changes should be rephrased. The writer of the top live music venues statement probably got it from Pollstar, though the statistics change and probably need to be updated (those venues have the credibilty to make such claims). The statement someone added that 'corrupt politicians and crumbling business contribute to heavy criminal activity' is speculative and probably inaccurate. The city's claims are that the worst crime is often drug related and that the crime has been in certain areas of the city and not necessarily citywide. The city has been critical of broadsweeping generalizations about its crime figures. Revitalized and existing well maintained neighborhoods have contibuted to the quality of life in the city - the media has reported on some of them. An AP report on the postitive impact of Detroit's revitalized Mexicantown recently circulated nationally.[[User:Thomas Paine1776|Thomas Paine1776]] ([[User talk:Thomas Paine1776|talk]]) 19:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Great, sounds like we're getting nearer consensus. However, I still think we need to distinguish between a statement presented as fact -- "Detroit's archtiecture is regarded as some of the finest" etc. -- and the citing of opinion ""American Architecture Magazine identifiies Detroit's skyline as a model for the contemporary American City" (citation) -- I'm making that up, but you get the idea. Similarly with claims of revitalization -- it's not a meanignful claim at the level of fact, but it's possible to make a factual claim that efforts were made to revitalize a neighborhood, or that a particular source claimed "quality of life" improved (leaving the way open of course, for counter-views -- a good example is the fact that not everybody regards gentrification as progress). Yeah, it can slow down the reading, but if the choice really is between that and precision, anencyclopedia chooses precision.[[User:DavidOaks|DavidOaks]] ([[User talk:DavidOaks|talk]]) 21:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


:I'd like to propose keeping the current images in the infobox. The proposed image of the skyline cuts off one of the Renaissance Center buildings, doesn't include Huntington Place Convention Center, and includes the Hudson's building (which isn't complete yet). I recommend updating the image when the Hudson's building is complete and the image also includes the other buildings mentioned. The current image was taken during sunset and everything appears to be visible.
Fine to specify. Besides the 2005 work cited for the cities architecture as among America's finest, the Historic Preservation Trust's recognition status evidenced its importance, the statement was certainly sourced. Some of Detoit's skysrapers are also National Historic landmarks. Certainly welcome suggestions for better phrases, not sure of your reasons for not preferring the phrase 'quality of life' in the context used. The phrase 'quality of life' in context is clear, concise, ''and accurate'', for the reader its serves as an effective conveyance of the economic effects of revitalization and an improved/restored impact. Generally, a 'quality of life' is an accurate phrase in these cases since most outcome measures are positive. If you have a better suggestion, let's hear it. While it may be ok to mention counter points/criticisms, the gentrification critics have a weak case anyway, as evidenced by Mexicantown's revitalization with increased economic activity and an improved environment. Revitalized urban high rises, by nature, initially will command higher prices, as will revitalized 19th century mansions, thats simply a normal market condition. Other city's have similarly positive experiences with revitalizations, it appears there is little dispute about the positive effects. In America's cities, its generally known that revitalization is an effort to improve/restore. If the lack of revitalization/well maintained areas would generally be concern then it follows that revitalization is generally a positive. Detroit revitalizations are a significant topic with many references to them.[[Special:Contributions/12.110.179.187|12.110.179.187]] ([[User talk:12.110.179.187|talk]]) 23:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:The Renaissance Center is Detroit's tallest building and is also representative of the city's history. Thanks. [[User:T Yorke|T Yorke]] ([[User talk:T Yorke|talk]]) 23:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:58, 1 January 2025

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Error in lead?

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It says General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis all have headquarters in Detroit, but when you click on their pages, only GM has a headquarters in Detroit. Mattximus (talk) 19:29, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are right! GM has it at the RenCen; I think they mean the Detroit area. 206.57.152.111 (talk) 14:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consistency in Translations

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In the history section we are saying "in the former colonies of New France and La Louisiane, respectively." One is rendered in English, the other in French, despite the fact that both are 18th century French colonies.

I recommend we either say "La Nouvelle France" and La Louisiane," or we say "New France" and "Louisiana." — Muckapedia (talk) 5e sept. 2024 9h24 (−4h) 13:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m 24.192.128.108 (talk) 08:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doraine Chandler I’m not your dad anymore 24.192.128.108 (talk) 08:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What? Mirza Ahmed (talk) 06:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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They are at present building a new bridge; can someone add that? It is called the Gordie Howe International Bridge in case you do add it. It is done in 2025...I think. 206.57.152.111 (talk) 14:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already in the article here LaffyTaffer (talk) 14:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Too long" tag

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Does anyone think it's necessary to have the tag that says "This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably"? I don't see any difference between this article and articles of other cities that don't have the tag. T Yorke (talk) 02:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is nearly 15k words of readable prose, and is in need of being streamlined per the summary style guideline. If there are other city articles of similar length they should also be addressed. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:03, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Montage

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Downtown Detroit skyline
Downtown Detroit skyline
Fox Theatre
Fox Theatre
Detroit Institute of Arts
Detroit Institute of Arts
Ambassador Bridge
Ambassador Bridge
Comerica Park
Comerica Park
Ford Piquette Plant
Ford Piquette Plant
Hitsville U.S.A.
Hitsville U.S.A.
Belle Isle Park
Belle Isle Park

I'd like to propose changing the images in the infobox to those appearing to the right (after receiving pushback from T Yorke). Namely, I'd like to change the skyline image to the proposed because the current image is from 2015; this new image is from 2024. While I can appreciate that this image is not encompassing every building in downtown Detroit at the scope of the old image, it does feature the skyline in substantial part--featuring the new Hudson's development--and is a daylight image.

Because this image more prominently features the RenCen, I removed it from the montage and added the Ford Piquette Avenue Plant as a representation of the city's history. Looking for community input as to updating the images in the montage. Thanks! 636Buster (talk) 22:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to propose keeping the current images in the infobox. The proposed image of the skyline cuts off one of the Renaissance Center buildings, doesn't include Huntington Place Convention Center, and includes the Hudson's building (which isn't complete yet). I recommend updating the image when the Hudson's building is complete and the image also includes the other buildings mentioned. The current image was taken during sunset and everything appears to be visible.
The Renaissance Center is Detroit's tallest building and is also representative of the city's history. Thanks. T Yorke (talk) 23:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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