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The first paragraph is POV. The second is inappropriate—we don't take credit for articles on Wikipedia. Every article is a collaberation and can change continuously. —[[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] 15:15, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
The first paragraph is POV. The second is inappropriate—we don't take credit for articles on Wikipedia. Every article is a collaberation and can change continuously. —[[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] 15:15, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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::The main problem with the first paragraph is not that it is POV (which could be fixed) but that it described an olfactory game and not a audio game. The concept is fascinating but inappropriate for this article. Does anyone have any ideas where this could fit? I checked to see if there was anything about television for pets (e.g. [http://www.petdvdlibrary.com/Dog-Entertainment.htm link1] or [http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s953902.htm link2]) on wiki, which seemed tangentially related, but there doesn't seem to be. |
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::Another thing this brings up is the focus in gaming on the different senses. Tactile games have come to us through the [[Haptic#Games|force-feedback controllers]], and games such as ''[[Rez]]'' target multiple senses (3 in ''Rez'') to form a cohesive integrated experience. Are there any examples of human olfactory games? What about gustatory games? Other multi-sense-targeting games? |
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::-[[User:Thibbs|Thibbs]] ([[User talk:Thibbs|talk]]) 19:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC) |
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[[User:80.127.96.19|80.127.96.19]] changed all the uses of "audiogame" to "audio game." I realized this was more correct since "video game" is split and is not "videogame." So I moved the page to this new name. I also updated all the wikilinks to [[audiogame]] which is now a redirect page. —[[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] 17:56, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
[[User:80.127.96.19|80.127.96.19]] changed all the uses of "audiogame" to "audio game." I realized this was more correct since "video game" is split and is not "videogame." So I moved the page to this new name. I also updated all the wikilinks to [[audiogame]] which is now a redirect page. —[[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] 17:56, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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:Neither version is incorrect. "Videogame" is less common but widely used, e.g. [[National Videogame Museum]], [[The Lego Movie Videogame]], [https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/how-to-talk-about-videogames How to Talk About Videogames]. The biggest forum for this type of game uses "audiogame" [https://audiogames.net/ audiogames.net]. [[User:Buckleyschance|Buckleyschance]] ([[User talk:Buckleyschance|talk]]) 06:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC) |
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No, no, no, this is so wrong! The "Before the introduction of Microsoft Windows . . ." passage makes it sound like most games under DOS were text based! They weren't! Most games under DOS were very graphical and accessed the video hardware directly . . . after graphics display adapters became widespread starting circa 1983. MS-DOS was the market leading OS on the IBM-compatible PC platform until around 1991 (give or take up to two years) when Windows 3.1--from the same publisher--overtook it in popularity. It still didn't do very well in offering game-quality (high speed, high resolution) graphics services, and ran on top of DOS, so until Windows 95 became established--maybe even until Windows 98--most games were written for DOS, used DOS extenders such as DPMI and DOS4GW, and recommended NOT running them under Windows, because it tended to make them unstable and cause crashes, slowdowns, or video and sound glitches. So for at least 12 years (1984-1996,) most graphical PC games were DOS programs. |
No, no, no, this is so wrong! The "Before the introduction of Microsoft Windows . . ." passage makes it sound like most games under DOS were text based! They weren't! Most games under DOS were very graphical and accessed the video hardware directly . . . after graphics display adapters became widespread starting circa 1983. MS-DOS was the market leading OS on the IBM-compatible PC platform until around 1991 (give or take up to two years) when Windows 3.1--from the same publisher--overtook it in popularity. It still didn't do very well in offering game-quality (high speed, high resolution) graphics services, and ran on top of DOS, so until Windows 95 became established--maybe even until Windows 98--most games were written for DOS, used DOS extenders such as DPMI and DOS4GW, and recommended NOT running them under Windows, because it tended to make them unstable and cause crashes, slowdowns, or video and sound glitches. So for at least 12 years (1984-1996,) most graphical PC games were DOS programs. |
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:I agree the wording now isn't really clear. In the DOS days, especially the early DOS days, there were many text-based games (such as the excellent ones from [[Infocom]]). By the time Windows arrived, they had largely disappeared. That's what the wording needs to make clear. — [[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefσσt]] | [[User talk:Frecklefoot|Talk]] 16:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC) |
:I agree the wording now isn't really clear. In the DOS days, especially the early DOS days, there were many text-based games (such as the excellent ones from [[Infocom]]). By the time Windows arrived, they had largely disappeared. That's what the wording needs to make clear. — [[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefσσt]] | [[User talk:Frecklefoot|Talk]] 16:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC) |
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Should we come up with a new category for audio games? Currently there is none so, for example, the audio game ''[[BBBeat]]'' is listed under [[Category:Games]] simply. I realize that there are not a lot of articles on audio games and categories are not normally intended for small numbers of articles, but it seems like [[Category:Games]] is overbroad. I wish [[Category:Electronic Games]] were available for use, but there seems to be a large video-game bias to the electronic games. [[Electronic game]]s is actually a ''redirect'' page for [[Video game]]s... It seems like this would be a struggle to change but it probably should be done eventually. (It would also be cool to include audio games under something like <nowiki>{{VideoGameGenre}}</nowiki> but for all electronic games). In the mean time, though we could perhaps create [[Category:Audio games]]. Thoughts? -[[User:Thibbs|Thibbs]] ([[User talk:Thibbs|talk]]) 16:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
Should we come up with a new category for audio games? Currently there is none so, for example, the audio game ''[[BBBeat]]'' is listed under <nowiki>[[Category:Games]]</nowiki> simply. I realize that there are not a lot of articles on audio games and categories are not normally intended for small numbers of articles, but it seems like <nowiki>[[Category:Games]]</nowiki> is overbroad. I wish <nowiki>[[Category:Electronic Games]]</nowiki> were available for use, but there seems to be a large video-game bias to the electronic games. [[Electronic game]]s is actually a ''redirect'' page for [[Video game]]s... It seems like this would be a struggle to change but it probably should be done eventually. (It would also be cool to include audio games under something like <nowiki>{{VideoGameGenre}}</nowiki> but for all electronic games). In the mean time, though we could perhaps create <nowiki>[[Category:Audio games]]</nowiki>. Thoughts? -[[User:Thibbs|Thibbs]] ([[User talk:Thibbs|talk]]) 16:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :Creating an audio games category is pretty simple. All one has to do is create an article with <nowiki>[[Category:Audio games]]</nowiki> at the bottom. All that's required then is someone to write a (brief) introduction for the page. But few audio games have articles written about them, so it is likely to remain sparsely populated for quite a while. — [[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefσσt]] | [[User talk:Frecklefoot|Talk]] 14:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::OK I guess I will make the Category then. Hopefully nobody objects that it is too tiny. |
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::-[[User:Thibbs|Thibbs]] ([[User talk:Thibbs|talk]]) 16:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::{{tick|10}} Problem addressed. -[[User:Thibbs|Thibbs]] ([[User talk:Thibbs|talk]]) 14:08, 13 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Bibliography of Sources to Improve This Article == |
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I have collected a short list of sources that could potentially improve this article on the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SparksCap95/Audio_game/Bibliography?venotify=created#Bibliography bibliography page in my sandbox]. Does anyone have any advice on how to improve this list or suggestions on sources to look into? |
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⚫ | :Creating an audio games category is pretty simple. |
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- (Actually, there are stranger games in this world, like scent games for dogs!)
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The first paragraph is POV. The second is inappropriate—we don't take credit for articles on Wikipedia. Every article is a collaberation and can change continuously. —Frecklefoot 15:15, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- The main problem with the first paragraph is not that it is POV (which could be fixed) but that it described an olfactory game and not a audio game. The concept is fascinating but inappropriate for this article. Does anyone have any ideas where this could fit? I checked to see if there was anything about television for pets (e.g. link1 or link2) on wiki, which seemed tangentially related, but there doesn't seem to be.
- Another thing this brings up is the focus in gaming on the different senses. Tactile games have come to us through the force-feedback controllers, and games such as Rez target multiple senses (3 in Rez) to form a cohesive integrated experience. Are there any examples of human olfactory games? What about gustatory games? Other multi-sense-targeting games?
- -Thibbs (talk) 19:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]80.127.96.19 changed all the uses of "audiogame" to "audio game." I realized this was more correct since "video game" is split and is not "videogame." So I moved the page to this new name. I also updated all the wikilinks to audiogame which is now a redirect page. —Frecklefoot 17:56, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Neither version is incorrect. "Videogame" is less common but widely used, e.g. National Videogame Museum, The Lego Movie Videogame, How to Talk About Videogames. The biggest forum for this type of game uses "audiogame" audiogames.net. Buckleyschance (talk) 06:05, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]No, no, no, this is so wrong! The "Before the introduction of Microsoft Windows . . ." passage makes it sound like most games under DOS were text based! They weren't! Most games under DOS were very graphical and accessed the video hardware directly . . . after graphics display adapters became widespread starting circa 1983. MS-DOS was the market leading OS on the IBM-compatible PC platform until around 1991 (give or take up to two years) when Windows 3.1--from the same publisher--overtook it in popularity. It still didn't do very well in offering game-quality (high speed, high resolution) graphics services, and ran on top of DOS, so until Windows 95 became established--maybe even until Windows 98--most games were written for DOS, used DOS extenders such as DPMI and DOS4GW, and recommended NOT running them under Windows, because it tended to make them unstable and cause crashes, slowdowns, or video and sound glitches. So for at least 12 years (1984-1996,) most graphical PC games were DOS programs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.41.248 (talk • contribs) 21 September 2007
- I agree the wording now isn't really clear. In the DOS days, especially the early DOS days, there were many text-based games (such as the excellent ones from Infocom). By the time Windows arrived, they had largely disappeared. That's what the wording needs to make clear. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- I have made what I believe are further improvements to this section. I agree it was pretty confusingly written. -Thibbs (talk) 16:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]Should we come up with a new category for audio games? Currently there is none so, for example, the audio game BBBeat is listed under [[Category:Games]] simply. I realize that there are not a lot of articles on audio games and categories are not normally intended for small numbers of articles, but it seems like [[Category:Games]] is overbroad. I wish [[Category:Electronic Games]] were available for use, but there seems to be a large video-game bias to the electronic games. Electronic games is actually a redirect page for Video games... It seems like this would be a struggle to change but it probably should be done eventually. (It would also be cool to include audio games under something like {{VideoGameGenre}} but for all electronic games). In the mean time, though we could perhaps create [[Category:Audio games]]. Thoughts? -Thibbs (talk) 16:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Creating an audio games category is pretty simple. All one has to do is create an article with [[Category:Audio games]] at the bottom. All that's required then is someone to write a (brief) introduction for the page. But few audio games have articles written about them, so it is likely to remain sparsely populated for quite a while. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 14:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- OK I guess I will make the Category then. Hopefully nobody objects that it is too tiny.
- -Thibbs (talk) 16:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Problem addressed. -Thibbs (talk) 14:08, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 31 January 2023 and 11 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): SparksCap95 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Dkell22.
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Bibliography of Sources to Improve This Article
[edit]I have collected a short list of sources that could potentially improve this article on the bibliography page in my sandbox. Does anyone have any advice on how to improve this list or suggestions on sources to look into?