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<div class="usermessage" style="text-align: center;"><span style="color:blue">Administrators:</span> if this bot is malfunctioning, try [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:XLinkBot/Settings&action=edit changing its settings]. It can also be shut off there in a server-friendly way.</div> |
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|This is the talkpage of XLinkBot (formerly SquelchBot), a bot designed to revert [[WP:SPAM|spamming]], or other edits that introduce external links which do not comply with [[WP:EL|our external links]] guideline, or with the policy [[WP:NOT#REPOSITORY|'What wikipedia is not' (not a repository of links section)]]. |
|This is the talkpage of XLinkBot (formerly SquelchBot), a bot designed to revert [[WP:SPAM|spamming]], or other edits that introduce external links which do not comply with [[WP:EL|our external links]] guideline, or with the policy [[WP:NOT#REPOSITORY|'What wikipedia is not' (not a repository of links section)]]. |
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Please leave new comments here by clicking [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:XLinkBot&action=edit§ion=new this link] |
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If your additions were reverted by XLinkBot, please take time to review our [[WP:EL|external links]] & [[WP:SPAM|spam]] guidelines, and take note that [[WP:NOT#LINK|Wikipedia is not a repository of links]], |
If your additions were reverted by XLinkBot, please take time to review our [[WP:EL|external links]] & [[WP:SPAM|spam]] guidelines, and take note that [[WP:NOT#LINK|Wikipedia is not a repository of links]], [[WP:NOT#DIR|a directory]], nor a place to promote [[WP:COI|your own work]]. If you feel your addition was within those policies and guidelines and are [[WP:RS|Reliable]] and [[WP:V|Verifiable]], and do not violate [[Wikipedia:Copyright|Copyright]], you may [[WP:UNDO|undo]] the changes made by XLinkBot. Questions are welcome, however this talk page is for [[WP:CIV|civil]] discussion and is not a complaints department. |
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|<div style="color:#FF0000">FAQs:</div> |
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* [[User:XLinkBot/FAQ#WHY|Why is my external link addition reverted?]] |
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* [[User:XLinkBot/FAQ#REVERTALL|Why did the bot revert all my edits, and not only the one where I added an external link?]] |
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== Reverting all of a day's edits == |
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== Verbose messages, no template comments == |
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The messages left by this bot on user talk pages should be more concise and follow the escalation patterns of prior warnings given by the uw-spam1, uw-spam2, uw-spam3, and uw-spam4 templates. Other bots (ClueBot, VoABot) manage this quite well, and they leave inline comments indicating the warning level. When XLinkBot comes along, the message it leaves doesn't indicate a warning level meaningful to either bots or humans. |
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For example, on [[User talk:203.123.154.98]], XLinkBot should have left a level-2 spam warning with the comment <span style="white-space: nowrap"><tt><nowiki><!-- Template:uw-spam2 --></nowiki></tt></span>, instead of a long essay with no warning level. The essay was incorrectly indented too (which I fixed), making it look like a reply to the prior warning. Please consider these improvements. Thanks. =[[User:Axlq|Axlq]] ([[User talk:Axlq|talk]]) 06:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:No, that 'essay' is part of the first warning. It gives a {{tl|uw-spam1}} and an explanation of why the bot reverted. Do you think that that part of (each) warning should not be indented? --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 10:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::Ah, I see. I thought someone else left uw-spam1, and the bot added indented material underneath. That's what it looks like to someone reading over the page. |
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::Anyway, why is uw-spam1 insufficient? If it's good enough for humans, it's good enough for bots. However, if you want to add more information, that long-winded 3-paragraph 'essay' could be reduced to a few lines, something like this: |
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:;:''Your edit [diff] was reverted by an automated bot. For information about why, see the [[WP:EL|external linking guidelines]] as well as the guidelines for [[Wikipedia:COPYRIGHT#Linking to copyrighted works|Linking to copyrighted works]] and [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. If this bot's revert was in error, please let the bot creator know on User talk:XLinkBot. If this is a shared IP address and you didn't make the edit, please ignore this notice.'' |
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::Naming the article in a heading is redundant, because uw-spam already names the article. The bot should also pay attention to the heading or sub-heading under which it's posting. If a ===January 2008=== heading already exists, and it's still January 2008, the bot shouldn't insert its own heading. =[[User:Axlq|Axlq]] ([[User talk:Axlq|talk]]) 15:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:I have chosen to add a bit more information, as it is often the case that the link is not spam, though an unwanted link. Therefore it includes extra information (where possible) to tell why this particular link was reverted (images because they are better uploaded etc.). I could remove the indenting, that makes it clearer that it belongs in one post. |
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:I will have a look into trying to obey the 'January 2008'-headings used by the other bots one of these days. That should not be too hard. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 15:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:I think I solved the "January 2008"-heading. I'd like to hear some more input on how to make the warning proper for the type of link, without flooding the page. Thanks. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 16:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::Well, as I suggested above, a few lines of explanation with some "fill-in-blanks" might do the trick. For example: |
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::''Your edit [diff] was reverted by an automated bot, because [bot inserts reason below]'' |
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::*''links to blog/fansite/community/forum sites are discouraged by the [[WP:EL|external linking guidelines]] and the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] policy, except in case of an official link pertaining to the subject of the article.'' |
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::*''links to promotional sites, whether commercial or not, are discouraged by the [[WP:EL|external linking guidelines]].'' |
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::*''[[Wikipedia:COPYRIGHT#Linking to copyrighted works|Linking to copyrighted works]] should be avoided where it isn't clear that the copyright holder gave permission for reproduction or distribution.'' |
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::*''Your edits have predominantly focused on adding this link to articles, which suggests a possible [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]].'' |
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::*''(any other appropriate reason taken from [[WP:EL]])'' |
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::''If you are associated with this link, please review [[WP:COI|conflict of interest guidelines]] and discuss your link on the article's talk page instead of adding it to the article. If this bot's revert was in error, please let the bot creator know on User talk:XLinkBot. If this is a shared IP address and you didn't make the edit, please ignore this notice.'' |
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::How's that? If you complete the first sentence with one of the bullets, you get a concise and civil message explaining why the bot took action. You don't even need to split it into paragraphs. =[[User:Axlq|Axlq]] ([[User talk:Axlq|talk]]) 16:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:I'll have a look at making the warnings more consise later, at the moment the four things that users get customised warnings for is for 'pay per view'-pages (free hosts where people can create an own page, and when others see the page the user gets money from the site-maintainer), 'free hosts' (often problems with COI), 'media files' (which often link to copyrighted information), and 'petition sites' (not a soapbox etc.). The ones that have not been categorised get a shorter warning. |
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:I'd like to add here, that this bot is doing something different than reverting vandalism. Vandalism does not need an extra warning, while people who add, in good faith, an external link, often don't see where their link violates [[WT:SPAM]] or [[WP:EL]], so I think in this case a better explanation is necessery (but we do agree on that). --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 18:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::Hi, I'm not particular about what message the bot leaves, but I've noticed that Cluebot will ignore prior messages that don't say what warning level was used (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:170.158.81.245&diff=208093504&oldid=207635944 this example]). What ever the visable text is, do you mind putting some invisble text that signifies what warning level is being used so the other automated bots will do their jobs? Thanks, [[User:NJGW|NJGW]] ([[User talk:NJGW|talk]]) 21:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== references == |
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The other two links I added as references were from reputable newspapers and thus serve as a good source of information. Why were they deleted? Thanks. |
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- Alfonso129 |
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== Sophie Aldred page reverted? == |
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I dont see how this is classed as spam, I only linked to the facebook group as a source. |
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== Bad Manners == |
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the band Bad Manner's official site is closed and the link is not-working, when i tried to add a link to their official myspace page i got a rejection |
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== [[:Squire, Sanders]] == |
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[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|left|40px]] |
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This is an automated message from [[User:CorenSearchBot|CorenSearchBot]]. I have performed a web search with the contents of [[:Squire, Sanders]], and it appears to be very similar to another wikipedia page: [[:Squire, Sanders & Dempsey]]. It is possible that you have accidentally duplicated contents, or made an error while creating the page— you might want to look at the pages and see if that is the case. |
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This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on [[User talk:Coren|the maintainer's talk page]]. [[User:CorenSearchBot|CorenSearchBot]] ([[User talk:CorenSearchBot|talk]]) 10:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:See post below. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 18:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Simmons == |
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A non existing edit was reverted ending with a substitution of the disambig [[Simmons]] page by the [[Simmons & Simmons]] page.--[[User:Stone|Stone]] ([[User talk:Stone|talk]]) 14:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Bllooodddyy .. I know what the problem is, the stupid ampersand. <s>One of the other bots had the same problem</s>I saw that this was happening, and I have repaired that 3 days ago .. <s>and now I look further, </s>I actually repaired it in this sequence. There was a spammer active adding a link to a whole series of lawyer-companies sites, a lot of them with the ampersand in them. I hope I have really repaired it, please alert me if you find one after the 16th (my calculation of time has a problem now, the box is 5 hours behind me, so I have tried to repair it on April 16 at 11:18, and you are posting this at Apr 16 at 14:23. The bot reverted at 11:27 .. hmm .. that would be after the repair .. I have to keep my eyes open for this one). I do hope this explains. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 18:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:some refactoring, was not another bot, I implemented another attempt to repair, and I did not see another revert on a page with an ampersand in the log. I really hope this has helped now. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 18:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:It seems to have been resolved: XLinkBot tried to revert this [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Gavin_%26_Stacey&diff=prev&oldid=206924462 edit] and http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Gavin_%26_Stacey&diff=next&oldid=206924462 this] was the result. Thanks again for reporting this! --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 10:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== RE:Revision history of Love Boat (study tour) == |
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Good work on your part in the effort to eliminate extraneous links. However in this particular case you did not do your research or check in depth. The friendster loveboat2000 site is an alumni site for Taiwan studytour participants like some of the others. If you look and read closely to the message board there are testimonials to the tour's impact and there is absolutely no spam nor is it used for advertising. It is further evidence of the many people who had a significant cultural experience when going to Taiwan on the tour. To delete such a link is to show a cultural insensitivity and an obtuse racial blindness to significance of these networking sites to the Overseas Chinese Community. Please continue your efforts to reduce spam and porn links on Wiki, but please also leave well meaning and appropriate links to sites such as these alone. Thank you. |
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== Cruella De VIlle == |
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Regarding the alteration of this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Cruella_de_Ville&diff=205995108&oldid=205995092) |
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The CDV Wikipedia page is the ONLY up to date information site for the band...! |
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I included the list for videos availble on YouTube as factual information (as well as showing what few video performances of the band have survived)... and the link to facebook was only added so fans had a chance of contacting each other - again there are not many CDV sites on the internet. |
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So I don't understand why these have been edited... especially the video list |
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PLUS you've reverted to a version the contains a link to the CDV "Stage 6" webpage... Stage6 has closed down so the link was removed. |
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James (a CDV fan in contact with Philomena & Colum Muinzer of CDV) |
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== link to Christian Rap Recording Artist Myspace in relation to Christian Rap in Wiki == |
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--[[Special:Contributions/142.165.222.6|142.165.222.6]] ([[User talk:142.165.222.6|talk]]) 19:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)www.myspace.com/robdonison is not a site that promotes an artist. it is simply a collection of Christian rap artists that record that genre of music. is is possibly the most informative source of Christian rap artists on the internet and is an essential link ofr anyone wanting to connect with artists in this genre of music. if you are not clear on this, please check the site itself www.myspace.com/robdonison rob donison is the manager of the site and is an music award judge, not an active recording artist. |
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:Yes, see [[Wikipedia:External links]], the link is not appropriate, it may be appropriate on the wikipage for [[Rob Donison]], in almost all other cases it is not. If however you think it is really appropriate, just revert the bot, it should not revert you twice. Hope this explains. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 19:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== extra reverts == |
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The bot is reverting more edits than just the one which adds links. If an editor has made multiple edits in a row then all of those edits may be reverted, including edits that don't add links. See [[Freyed knot]] (if noone has deleted the page yet). [[Special:Contributions/144.110.129.62|144.110.129.62]] ([[User talk:144.110.129.62|talk]]) 07:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Its a choice, general, anti vandalism bots revert all edits by the same user. When only reverting one edit, often not all 'vandalism' gets reverted, when reverting all it sometimes reverts too much. Difficult choice. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 14:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Illinoise == |
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Why was the "in other media" section of [[Illinoise]] deleted? Check the edit log - the reason for deletion is not good enough. If you're gonna remove this for one page, you have to do it for every single page on Wikipedia that is laid out like this. Simple as that. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.161.206.86|68.161.206.86]] ([[User talk:68.161.206.86|talk]]) 12:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I have read the entire links "rules" page and fail to see any violation to a fan forum that is designed to provide discussion of the the article subject. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.4.163.198|65.4.163.198]] ([[User talk:65.4.163.198|talk]]) 05:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Please read [[WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS]]. You were adding ezboard.com, which is generally not a suitable page in external links sections. If you believe in this case that the bot is wrong, just revert the edit. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 14:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Non standard warnings layout == |
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Please use the layout described in [[Wikipedia:UTM#Multi-level_templates]] thanks -- John <span class="plainlinks" style="font-family: Verdana; font-variant: small-caps; font-size: 11px; text-align: center;">([[User:Daytona2|Daytona2]]<span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> [[User talk:Daytona2|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Daytona2|Contribs]])</span> 19:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:It does add {{tl|uw-spam1}} untill {{tl|uw-spam4}} .. I am not sure what you mean. Could you explain? --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 19:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::The messages Xlinkbot leaves are so long that it seems other bots don't notice prior warnings (like in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:170.158.81.245&diff=208093504&oldid=207635944 this example]). Maybe you should move the warning level to the end of the posts. [[User:NJGW|NJGW]] ([[User talk:NJGW|talk]]) 20:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:I have added <nowiki><!-- Template:uw-spam# --></nowiki> to the end of the message. Now waiting for further examples to see if it works. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 14:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Why reverting YouTube links on [[Durham Miners' Gala]]? == |
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Linking to YouTube videos is not banned on Wiki. Nor do the links contravine copyright. Stop reverting! I am reporting this stupid bot. [[Special:Contributions/88.107.110.247|88.107.110.247]] ([[User talk:88.107.110.247|talk]]) 20:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Would it be possible to have the bot report when the user edits again after being reverted, instead of reverting again? I know most vandalism bots work that way. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#001F7F;">talk</span>]]</sup> 21:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::The bot does not revert a user twice in a row on the same page, it does report to IRC for that. It has quite some 'safety features' installed (obeying 3RR, not reverting twice in a row, and when a user is adding to many links to too many pages which are 'of concern', I hope that the report on AIV gets checked properly by the admins before blocking. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 19:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== THIS BOT(PROGRAM) IS MALFUNCTIONING - get a real person in here! == |
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SOMEBODY needs to deactivate this bot - it does not know what the hell it's doing. |
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[[Special:Contributions/75.8.35.177|75.8.35.177]] ([[User talk:75.8.35.177|talk]]) 21:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:No, it did what it had to do, and you did what was then a solution. But still I think these links should not be there, you should discuss that on the talkpage. The page in mainspace is not a place for discussion, and XLinkBot did tell what the solution is when you upload images. Hope this explains. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 19:05, 27 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== What's wrong with my edits? == |
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During WikiConfrence North America, an editor spoke about the deleterious effect that having all of a day's editing reverting had on a group of editors they were affiliated with. It's not clear to me that the benefits you claim are made by this decision outweigh the BITEing impact it has. Is there any data to support this design decision? Thanks, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 13:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I added an external link to Maajid Nawaaz's and Ed Hussain's blog - the link is relevant. Why was it revereted??? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Javk|Javk]] ([[User talk:Javk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Javk|contribs]]) 23:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Only reverting to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hyderabad_House&oldid=1247450235 this] would have left the rest of the crap added by this spammer (and the first, then unreverted, edit was a broken edit in itself). Was easier to find than an editor who had 'all of a day's editing revert[ed]', the latter being nearly impossible with the bot settings. I am curious to see the edit you are talking about. [[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 15:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::This was done in a large setting and so I was not able to follow-up with the comment. In fact it took me reaching out to a number of people to even figure out that this was likely XLinkBot that was being discussed. The specific mention was attempts around use of GoodReads links if that is of any help. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 16:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::I will first pile on (you got the worst of me, I was curious if I could find any of the edits of the type that you mention - something where someone utterly new was editing for a long time (but not long enough) and have all reverted. |
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:::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Q4OS&oldid=1244449482 This] would have left the rest of the crap added by this spammer. |
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:::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Anant_Ambani&oldid=1244494593 This] is another one which would not have been reverted on this edit, but only on a later one. |
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:::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Lil_Durk&oldid=1244753320 This one (damaged the picture)] but would not have been reverted. |
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:::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Noelia_Artigas&diff=prev&oldid=1244917083 Or this]. |
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:::* [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Russell_Gordon&diff=prev&oldid=1244957539&unhide=1 This] one is nice, reverting one edit would have left the copyvio (though that is not for XLinkBot to decide, it was nice that it did an attempt to remove all instead of leaving it; IMHO the XLinkBot and edit of JalenBarks should not have been revdelled). |
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:::(and I am not listing everything there where I think first edits are bad quality; Note this is a good chunk out of about a month worth of reverting, I'm giving up further){{pb}}But with that list, there are indeed edits where a full revert would be excessive, but I've encountered just a couple ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Spaghettification&diff=prev&oldid=1245377520 this is one]){{pb}}XLinkBot has not reverted goodreads edits in years, and I cannot find it on the revertlist (or blacklist). So no, I do not think that it was XLinkBot at all. With WikiConference the last 3 days, they were either talking about something else, or something from long long ago. So this basically was some vague discussion of someone who was lightly disgruntled because 'look what those bad Wikipedians (or one of their bots) did to me!' Thanks for the exercise, I'll remember that the choice of reverting all edits is actually a good thing, Wikipedia would be worse if we did not. [[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 17:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::This was not something that happened at the WikiConfrence. It was instead part of a complaint to members of the Board of the WMF about ways Wikipedia is unfriendly to newcomers, especially new comers from groups under represented on English Wikipedia. [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 17:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Then I know enough. This was not XLinkBot. [[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 18:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::Dirk, that is '''not''' the policy, from WP:EL "Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority" are normally to be avoided. That gives considerably greater flexibiity than you specified. Any blog may be used if there is a particular good reason & it isnt being used for spam.Agreed, 95% or so of the blogs added here are improper, but the tolerance is not quite as narrow as you say. '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 22:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Re: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A80.42.207.226&diff=1251596327&oldid=1251579679]. This bot is badly programmed. It should not be reverting links that are within a {{tl|copyvio-revdel}} template, as this is achieving the exact opposite of what it is approved for. It was lucky that [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Banaras_Hindu_University&diff=1251597595&oldid=1251590093 someone else spotted this] after a copyvio was restored to the article in question by the bot. [[Special:Contributions/80.42.207.226|80.42.207.226]] ([[User talk:80.42.207.226|talk]]) 10:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:You are right, David, my mistake (your description is also what the bot leaves on the talkpage after reverting blogs). Here, a blogspot was added to the external links section; though it may be that a whole blogspot not written by the subject of the page is relevant for the subject of the page, I do believe it may only be a few posts on that specific blogspot. If the bot and I are both mistaken, then please revert the bot. It should not revert you twice in a row. Hope this explains. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 13:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Since late June 2024, a "mutilated" - i.e., all 'Works' removed- entry on [Professor] Seta B. Dadoyan waiting to be restored == |
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I recently tried to edit a page and did it incorrectly, my apologies.[[Special:Contributions/66.210.5.90|66.210.5.90]] ([[User talk:66.210.5.90|talk]]) 17:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC) |
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After a long and in fact positive correspondence with 1AmNobody24, and despite promises, the entry on me remains drastically mutilated of ALL my 'Works', I am still trying to "talk" to a WIKI editor. People who go to WIKIPEDIA have been getting back to me disappointed. I offered 1AmNobdy24 - and indeed he accepted and received - a full list of 'Works', with no comments, ALL PUBLISHED works, that need no references, they are references. I did not not get any assistance, and my WIKI entry looks miserable. |
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== over zealous deletion == |
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I do kindly expect a WIKI-worthy response, and I was elected "Top Scholar" by ScholarGPS recently, otherwise five time recipient of awards... But in the WIKI entry, I am a scholar with NO Works and no other information. It looks strange. |
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1. You are reversing edits if any part of them is adding a myspace link. This is deleting good material also. e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Maya_Beiser&oldid=209538336] |
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2. We have no absolute rule against linking to myspace if that's where a subjects official page is. WP:EL says "normally to be avoided" not always prohibited. Are you doing this automatically, or is a human looking at what you are doing? '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 22:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Re 1. Yes, it reverses all edits by the editor (can be changed in the settings), it is impossible to parse out only the link, that is too prone to leaving garbage, as there are too many ways of inserting external links. |
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:Re 2. Indeed, therefore the bot can be reverted, it only reverts once, it does not revert to other antivandalism bots, it obeys 3RR, it only reverts unestablished and IP editors (except when whitelisted), and it does not block itself (I hope the admins reviewing on AIV do check before blocking after bot-reports), etc. etc. Rules here should have a pretty low error rate, but there will always be errors (and therefore the built-in safety features; if there are indeed too many errors, then the rule should be removed). All reversions are mentioned on IRC, and there are quite often people watching (unfortunately there are not enough people watching the link addition feeds, as opposed to the recent edits patrollers (though they probably also remove quite some unwanted links). --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 16:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Seta B. Dadoyan [[User:Seta dadoyan|Seta dadoyan]] ([[User talk:Seta dadoyan|talk]]) 18:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I was unaware of the Youtube thing, sorry.[[Special:Contributions/72.0.36.36|72.0.36.36]] ([[User talk:72.0.36.36|talk]]) 04:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Hello, @[[User:Versageek|Versageek]] and @[[User:Beetstra|Beetstra]]-- I'm clearing up some syntax errors, and have run across this bot's userpage/talk page due to the HTML5-incompatible misnesting error that is occurring. I've fixed this issue here on the bot's talk page ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AXLinkBot&diff=1262023509&oldid=1254574389 diff]), but the bot's userpage has full protection and I have only EC access. Would one of you be willing to make the same adjustment over there to clear the misnested issue, and replace the use of the obsolete center tag? |
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I do not see anything wrong with what I did but thanks anyway if I did do something wrong. --[[Special:Contributions/86.41.91.199|86.41.91.199]] ([[User talk:86.41.91.199|talk]]) 20:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC) |
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If you have any questions, I'm happy to chat. Thanks, [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 06:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Your ridiculous note on my talk page == |
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:@[[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] {{done}}! Thanks (it also reminded me to put that on the other bots) [[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 18:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::Thank you so much! [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 20:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== hello it about:Third ararat operation == |
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Hey! I never ''even'' added any links to [[Demi Lovato]]! I think something got to your head or maybe you're dumb, but I did not add '''ANY LINK''' to the Demi Lovato article! I think that it was stupid and unfair to leave a ridiculous note like that on my talk page. I don't even care if you still think I changed the Demi article. i just don't want you to leave messages like that on my talk page again. [[User:DemiLovato15|DemiLovato15]] ([[User talk:DemiLovato15|talk]]) 01:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:You edited a myspace.com link that was already there (btw: either of those link formats work for her site.. the longer one redirects to the shorter one).. It's good that the bot reverted you though. When you made those two edits, it seems you inadvertently removed some wiki-markup which broke the page formatting. --[[User:Versageek|<span style="color:midnightblue">Versa</span>]][[User_talk:Versageek|<span style="color:darkred">geek</span>]] 02:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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source for ararat operation it was kurdish victory :Jwaideh, Wadie (June 19, 2006) (in English). The Kurdish National Movement: Its Origins and Development. Syracuse University Press. ISBN 081563093X. |
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:You shouldn't be butting in on conversations that don't even involve you! This is between me and XLinkbot, not you! Mind your own business! [[User:DemiLovato15|DemiLovato15]] ([[User talk:DemiLovato15|talk]]) 21:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Nuri, İhsan (1992). Ihsan Nuri Pasha, La Révolte de L'Agridagh.. Published in Geneva in 1985. In Turkish: Mount Ararat Rebellion, Med Basımevi, Istanbul.. https://books.google.com/books?id=8NmzmAEACAAJ. |
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::Please, stay calm. It actually has everything to do with Versageek. XLinkBot is, as the name suggests, a bot that is run by Versageek. Any problems with the bot should be forwarded to him. [[User:Paragon12321|Paragon12321]] ([[User talk:Paragon12321|talk]]) 21:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Karaca, Emin (September 15, 2003) (in Turkish). Ağrı Eteklerinde İsyan Bir Kürt Ayaklanmasının Anatomisi. ISBN 9789758658374. |
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:Hey! Mind your own business next time! This doesn't concern you. [[User:DemiLovato15|DemiLovato15]] ([[User talk:DemiLovato15|talk]]) 21:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Olson, Robert (July 1, 1989). The Emergence of Kurdish Nationalism and the Sheikh Said Rebellion, 1880–1925. ISBN 0292720858. [[Special:Contributions/185.84.70.133|185.84.70.133]] ([[User talk:185.84.70.133|talk]]) 11:53, 28 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::I do have to agree with you. You didn't add a link, you just fixed one. I don't know specifically how this bot works, but it probably just reverts any myspace links. Just remember, this is a bot, and there are false positives. Just stay calm next time. You can remove the warning if you want. [[User:Paragon12321|Paragon12321]] ([[User talk:Paragon12321|talk]]) 21:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for agreeing with me! By the way, I ''removed'' the warning just now. The warning practically filled up my entire talk page! Again thank you! [[User:DemiLovato15|DemiLovato15]] ([[User talk:DemiLovato15|talk]]) 22:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::No problem. Just [[WP:CIVIL|keep a cool head]] and you'll find that people are more helpful. [[User:Paragon12321|Paragon12321]] ([[User talk:Paragon12321|talk]]) 23:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::I don't get it. Demi, were you expecting the bot to reply? '''[[User:Enigmaman|<font color="blue">Enigma</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|<b><sup>message</sup></b>]]'' 00:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:STBotI&diff=prev&oldid=210689704 I guess this isn't the only bot...] '''[[User:Enigmaman|<font color="blue">Enigma</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Enigmaman|<b><sup>message</sup></b>]]'' 00:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::::It is also possible that Demi didn't know that they were automatic bots or just someone that has "bot" in there name. [[User:Paragon12321|Paragon12321]] ([[User talk:Paragon12321|talk]]) 00:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Hey! Don't talk about me behind my back! [[User:DemiLovato15|DemiLovato15]] ([[User talk:DemiLovato15|talk]]) 01:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Reverting all of a day's edits
[edit]During WikiConfrence North America, an editor spoke about the deleterious effect that having all of a day's editing reverting had on a group of editors they were affiliated with. It's not clear to me that the benefits you claim are made by this decision outweigh the BITEing impact it has. Is there any data to support this design decision? Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 13:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Only reverting to this would have left the rest of the crap added by this spammer (and the first, then unreverted, edit was a broken edit in itself). Was easier to find than an editor who had 'all of a day's editing revert[ed]', the latter being nearly impossible with the bot settings. I am curious to see the edit you are talking about. Dirk Beetstra T C 15:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- This was done in a large setting and so I was not able to follow-up with the comment. In fact it took me reaching out to a number of people to even figure out that this was likely XLinkBot that was being discussed. The specific mention was attempts around use of GoodReads links if that is of any help. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will first pile on (you got the worst of me, I was curious if I could find any of the edits of the type that you mention - something where someone utterly new was editing for a long time (but not long enough) and have all reverted.
- This would have left the rest of the crap added by this spammer.
- This is another one which would not have been reverted on this edit, but only on a later one.
- This one (damaged the picture) but would not have been reverted.
- Or this.
- This one is nice, reverting one edit would have left the copyvio (though that is not for XLinkBot to decide, it was nice that it did an attempt to remove all instead of leaving it; IMHO the XLinkBot and edit of JalenBarks should not have been revdelled).
- another copyvio that is not reverted.
- broke the references in the first edit (which they did not manage to repair in subsequent ones).
- (and I am not listing everything there where I think first edits are bad quality; Note this is a good chunk out of about a month worth of reverting, I'm giving up further)But with that list, there are indeed edits where a full revert would be excessive, but I've encountered just a couple (this is one)XLinkBot has not reverted goodreads edits in years, and I cannot find it on the revertlist (or blacklist). So no, I do not think that it was XLinkBot at all. With WikiConference the last 3 days, they were either talking about something else, or something from long long ago. So this basically was some vague discussion of someone who was lightly disgruntled because 'look what those bad Wikipedians (or one of their bots) did to me!' Thanks for the exercise, I'll remember that the choice of reverting all edits is actually a good thing, Wikipedia would be worse if we did not. Dirk Beetstra T C 17:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- This was not something that happened at the WikiConfrence. It was instead part of a complaint to members of the Board of the WMF about ways Wikipedia is unfriendly to newcomers, especially new comers from groups under represented on English Wikipedia. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Then I know enough. This was not XLinkBot. Dirk Beetstra T C 18:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- This was not something that happened at the WikiConfrence. It was instead part of a complaint to members of the Board of the WMF about ways Wikipedia is unfriendly to newcomers, especially new comers from groups under represented on English Wikipedia. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will first pile on (you got the worst of me, I was curious if I could find any of the edits of the type that you mention - something where someone utterly new was editing for a long time (but not long enough) and have all reverted.
- This was done in a large setting and so I was not able to follow-up with the comment. In fact it took me reaching out to a number of people to even figure out that this was likely XLinkBot that was being discussed. The specific mention was attempts around use of GoodReads links if that is of any help. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Programming error
[edit]Re: [1]. This bot is badly programmed. It should not be reverting links that are within a {{copyvio-revdel}} template, as this is achieving the exact opposite of what it is approved for. It was lucky that someone else spotted this after a copyvio was restored to the article in question by the bot. 80.42.207.226 (talk) 10:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Since late June 2024, a "mutilated" - i.e., all 'Works' removed- entry on [Professor] Seta B. Dadoyan waiting to be restored
[edit]Dear XLinkBot,
After a long and in fact positive correspondence with 1AmNobody24, and despite promises, the entry on me remains drastically mutilated of ALL my 'Works', I am still trying to "talk" to a WIKI editor. People who go to WIKIPEDIA have been getting back to me disappointed. I offered 1AmNobdy24 - and indeed he accepted and received - a full list of 'Works', with no comments, ALL PUBLISHED works, that need no references, they are references. I did not not get any assistance, and my WIKI entry looks miserable.
I do kindly expect a WIKI-worthy response, and I was elected "Top Scholar" by ScholarGPS recently, otherwise five time recipient of awards... But in the WIKI entry, I am a scholar with NO Works and no other information. It looks strange.
Thanks,
Seta B. Dadoyan Seta dadoyan (talk) 18:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Edit request
[edit]Hello, @Versageek and @Beetstra-- I'm clearing up some syntax errors, and have run across this bot's userpage/talk page due to the HTML5-incompatible misnesting error that is occurring. I've fixed this issue here on the bot's talk page (diff), but the bot's userpage has full protection and I have only EC access. Would one of you be willing to make the same adjustment over there to clear the misnested issue, and replace the use of the obsolete center tag?
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If you have any questions, I'm happy to chat. Thanks, Zinnober9 (talk) 06:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Zinnober9 Done! Thanks (it also reminded me to put that on the other bots) Dirk Beetstra T C 18:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Zinnober9 (talk) 20:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
hello it about:Third ararat operation
[edit]source for ararat operation it was kurdish victory :Jwaideh, Wadie (June 19, 2006) (in English). The Kurdish National Movement: Its Origins and Development. Syracuse University Press. ISBN 081563093X.
Nuri, İhsan (1992). Ihsan Nuri Pasha, La Révolte de L'Agridagh.. Published in Geneva in 1985. In Turkish: Mount Ararat Rebellion, Med Basımevi, Istanbul.. https://books.google.com/books?id=8NmzmAEACAAJ. Karaca, Emin (September 15, 2003) (in Turkish). Ağrı Eteklerinde İsyan Bir Kürt Ayaklanmasının Anatomisi. ISBN 9789758658374. Olson, Robert (July 1, 1989). The Emergence of Kurdish Nationalism and the Sheikh Said Rebellion, 1880–1925. ISBN 0292720858. 185.84.70.133 (talk) 11:53, 28 December 2024 (UTC)