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== Phillip Lane article edit == |
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See [[User talk:Bender235/2005-07 archive|my archive]] for everything pre-2008. |
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You removed a substantive edit on an article on a key figure in European central bank politics with solid data and a good argument because it was a pseudonymous publication. Thanks for promoting critical scrutinty, buddy. Clown show. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.111.72.234|88.111.72.234]] ([[User talk:88.111.72.234#top|talk]]) 23:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==[[:Terrelle Pryor]]== |
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Another editor has added the "{{tl|prod}}" template to the article [[Terrelle Pryor]], suggesting that it be deleted according to the [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed deletion]] process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]] and [[Wikipedia:Notability]]). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at [[Talk:Terrelle Pryor|its talk page]]. If you remove the {{tl|prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]], where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. <!-- Template:PRODNote --> [[User:BJBot|BJBot]] ([[User talk:BJBot|talk]]) 01:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:Them's the rules. Feel free to acquaint yourself on [[WP:BLP]]. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 00:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC) |
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== June Jones == |
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== Vernon Jarrett == |
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Despite your edits to the June Jones article, he is still the current head coach at the University of Hawaii. Perhaps the discussion page on the article could be used until an official announcement has been made. —[[User:C A Morris|C A Morris]] ([[User talk:C A Morris|talk]]) 06:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Hello, |
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==NCAA Division I football season or College football season== |
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In answer to your question, the 1976 article is mainly about the progress of the 1976 season in Division I, though there's also a section about the results of the Division II and III playoffs and the NAIA playoffs, with room for anyone to add on. Thus, it really is about that particular year in college football. Starting with 1978, there are articles about Division I-A and Division I-AA seasons, and it's conceivable (but not likely) that someone will do a spinoff article about the Division II season of 31 years ago. Until then, "19__ college football season" is a good way to incorporate all the information. [[User:Mandsford|Mandsford]] ([[User talk:Mandsford|talk]]) 22:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Your comment was reverted by mistake. I did not realize that I had inadvertently clicked the wrong area of the screen after I reviewed the comment that you've left on the Vernon Jarrett talk page. Sending my apologies for that error. '''<strong style="color:red;">→</strong>[[User:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">Lwalt</span>]]<sup> ♦ [[User talk:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>]]</sup>''' 00:32, 8 February 2022 (UTC) |
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==Speedy deletion of [[:Terrelle Pryor]]== |
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[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|48px|left]] A tag has been placed on [[:Terrelle Pryor]] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under [[WP:CSD#A7|section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion]], because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the [[WP:CSD#Articles|criteria for speedy deletion]], articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please [[Wikipedia:Notability|see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable]], as well as our subject-specific [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)|notability guideline for biographies]]. |
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:I figured it must've been by mistake. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 02:18, 8 February 2022 (UTC) |
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If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding <code>{{tl|hangon}}</code> to '''the top of [[:Terrelle Pryor|the page]]''' (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on '''[[{{{targettalk|Talk:Terrelle Pryor}}}|the article's talk page]]''' explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for ''speedy'' deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. [[User:DJBullfish|DJBullfish]] ([[User talk:DJBullfish|talk]]) 19:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)<!-- Template:Db-bio-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> |
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== Nomination of [[:Malcolm Jones (American football)]] for deletion == |
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==Bob Stoops== |
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<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Malcolm Jones (American football)]]''', to which you have [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/Malcolm_Jones_(American_football) significantly contributed], is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or if it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]]. |
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Please refrain from reverting changes concerning U.S. College Football coaches until you have fully researched the changes. Bob Stoops has become known as Blown <b>OUt</b> Bob amongst students of rival schools, specifically the [[University of Texas]] and [[Oklahoma State University]]. This has been verified by multiple media sources. Unfavorable press is legitimate as an entry in this style of article. It is very similar to the section on Mack Brown being known as "Coach February" Thank you for your diligence however. {{unsigned|Rgwilliams}} |
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== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[:Marcus Houston]] == |
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:Very funny. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 14:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC) |
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<blockquote>'''Notability is lacking, played 7 games of college football in 2004 for the Colorado State Rams. Never played in the NFL. Fails [[WP:GNG]].'''</blockquote> |
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While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be [[WP:DEL#REASON|deleted for any of several reasons]]. |
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Stop it, you two. Keep discussion to the talk page and remain [[WP:CIVIL|civil]] or you'll both end up blocked. [[User:Rockstar915|<FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR ="#990000">'''Rock'''</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000033">star</FONT>]] (<small><sup>[[User_talk:Rockstar915|T]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Rockstar915|C]]</sub></small>) 21:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Thanks I will fix that.--[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 12:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC) |
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==[[:Whitney Lewis]]== |
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Another editor has added the "{{tl|prod}}" template to the article [[Whitney Lewis]], suggesting that it be deleted according to the [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed deletion]] process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]] and [[Wikipedia:Notability]]). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at [[Talk:Whitney Lewis|its talk page]]. If you remove the {{tl|prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]], where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. <!-- Template:PRODNote --> [[User:BJBot|BJBot]] ([[User talk:BJBot|talk]]) 03:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC) |
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== I need a Person to Write an Article == |
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== An opinion please == |
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I need a person to write an article about a public servant. What is the process? How do I get in touch with you! [[User:Iamthedarknigh|Iamthedarknigh]] ([[User talk:Iamthedarknigh|talk]]) 07:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC) |
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Hi. I notice you are a vastly experienced editor here at Wikipedia, and I was wondering if you could take a quick look at [[User:Refsworldlee/Oliver Golding]], and let me know whether it would pass being introduced into mainspace, on grounds of notability (the subject may have given up acting, at least for now, and does not yet play tennis to the very highest standard, being a minor) or any other criteria you think may fit. This would be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Refsworldlee|'''Ref''']] <sup>[[User talk:Refsworldlee|(chew)]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Refsworldlee|<small>(do)</small>]] 13:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:Yeah, I pretty sure this article is ready to being introduced into mainspace. ––[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 19:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:Creating an article is fairly simple. Have a look at [[WP:1ST]] for instructions and details. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 15:42, 14 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::Thanks very much for that. [[User:Refsworldlee|'''Ref''']] <sup>[[User talk:Refsworldlee|(chew)]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Refsworldlee|<small>(do)</small>]] 21:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC) |
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==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] of [[:Draft:Excel High School (Alabama) (2)]]== |
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==Thank you== |
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Hello Bender, I was thinking today about creating [[Darrell Scott (American football)|Darrell Scott]] but I see that you beat me to it. It is a very nice article. I appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, especially those that touch on UT football, of course! I want to thank you for your hard work by presenting you with this barnstar: |
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The page [[:Draft:Excel High School (Alabama) (2)]] has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done for the following reason: |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Thank you, Bender 235, for your hard work on college-football related articles, such as [[Darrell Scott (American football)|Darrell Scott]]. [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\<sup>[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]</sup> 04:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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<blockquote>[[WP:CSD#G6|G6]]: Page with a [[Wikipedia:Minor page history|minor page history]] that was holding up a page move</blockquote> |
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Also, I noticed that you made a small improvement to [[2005 Texas Longhorn football team]] recently. I thank you for that also. Even though it is one of our [[Wikipedia:Featured articles|Featured Articles]] it is nice to see that some improvements are still being made. Since you have great language skills in German, I wonder if you would be interested in translating onto the German Wikipedia? I think it would be great to have an article there. Naturally, it would not necessarily need to be as detailed, but if we could get the article to be FA quality on two different Wikipedias that would be amazing. [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\<sup>[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]</sup> 04:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:Yeah, I thought about that, too, but besides it's a whole lot of work, it's also difficult to do. A couple of words and phrases can't be translated into German, such as "he rushed for 4,000 yards" because there is no word for "rush" in German. It's the same "he recovered a fumble" and a couple of others. I already tried to translate the [[Vince Young]] article into German, but I gave up. ––[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 12:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::I just looked at the German Vince Young. I don't read any German but I think it is good to have even a basic article like that. Short articles are valuable too! Thanks again for your work. [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\<sup>[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]</sup> 19:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[:Siphelo Ngquboza]] == |
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==Rugby edits== |
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<blockquote>'''Fails GNG'''</blockquote> |
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While your edits for UK based rugby players are obviously well-intentioned the weight should be in stones and pounds first rather than kilograms.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Londo06|<font style="color:#fef;background:red;">'''Londo'''</font>]][[User talk:Londo06|<font style="color:white;background:black;">'''06'''</font>]]</span></small> 14:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:Why? The official websites of their clubs also have kilograms first, see [http://www.salesharks.com/player_info?id=46] for example. ––[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 14:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::The convention is that for the country the most commonly used term would be used. ie if a Queensland Reds player was detailed on their website in m, he would still be detailed in cm as that's what it would be on the Wallabies page. The same goes if a Scot moves to a French side, it would be the country that is key.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Londo06|<font style="color:#fef;background:red;">'''Londo'''</font>]][[User talk:Londo06|<font style="color:white;background:black;">'''06'''</font>]]</span></small> 14:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Okay. I didn't know that. I'll keep that in mind. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 14:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC) |
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== Gutenberg–Richter law == |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Gutenberg%E2%80%93Richter_law&diff=prev&oldid=1112772077 Your sarcastic edit summary] does not make you right. Invoking WP:OWN is always the last refuge of those that do not have a case. Nor does it make me wrong. The "comical inconsistency" was not introduced by me. Rather it was your edit that introduced it, or at least made it worse, by templating only two of the existing 17 references. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 07:57, 28 September 2022 (UTC) |
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Never having worked with vector graphics (SVG), my new uploaded images do to seem to work. You asked me to change [Image:Singlewingformation vs5.gif] to another format. Apparently, none of my graphics programs will open .svg. <small>—Preceding [Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned] comment added by [[User:Bill Spencer5|Bill Spencer5]] ([[User talk:Bill Spencer5|talk]] [[User:Bill Spencer5|Bill Spencer]] [[User talk:Bill Spencer5|talk]]) 13:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)• [[Special:Contributions/Bill Spencer5|contribs]]) 13:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The citation style of the article is inconsistent and incomplete as of your latest revert. Some article titles are in quotation marks, others aren't. For some references publication year is written after author name, for others after journal volume. For some references the year is in parentheses, for others it isn't. I could go on. But I'm not blaming you for that, since it's most likely the consequence of different authors adding "their" citations over the years. What upset me was the implied duty on my part to first having any fixes to the citation style "discussed" somewhere, as if Wikipedia needed more bureaucracy for petty issues like this. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 14:46, 28 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:Actually I didn't ask you in particular. The <tt><nowiki>{{SVG}}</nowiki></tt> template just labels graphics in general, that could be replaced with [[SVG]] versions. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 13:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:: The need for a discussion is explained at [[WP:CITEVAR]]. That's mot new bureaucracy, it's established long-standing bureaucracy. I'm not against making the style consistent, but the one thing that editors contributing to this page have been entirely 100% consistent in is not using templates. I see no good reason for not respecting that. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 15:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::Not a problem. I will try to find appropriate imaging software. [[User:Bill Spencer5|Bill Spencer]] ([[User talk:Bill Spencer5|talk]]) 15:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:::"Not using templates" is not a citation style, let alone a consistent one. That's like considering "not using a typewriter" a literary genre. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 19:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC) |
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==Walkersville High School== |
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:::: I beg to differ with that. And you are now contradicting yourself. If templates are not part of citation style, then inserting them certainly cannot be justified with the rationale of making styles consistent. Besides, preserving styles is a ''globally'' recognised principle per [[WP:STYLEVAR]], not just limited to citations. There is no specific guidance on using typewriters, and I couldn't care less whether you do or not, but there is guidance on citation templates in [[WP:CITECONSENSUS]] {{xt|The use of citation templates is neither encouraged nor discouraged: '''an article should not be switched between templated and non-templated citations''' without good reason and consensus}} (my emphasis). CITEVAR also ''explicitly'' covers this point; showing that the guidelines recognise templates as part of the style even if you don't. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 16:35, 29 September 2022 (UTC) |
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I see that you rated [[Walkersville High School]] as low importance and categorized it as an article with no info box. Does the info box that it contains not qualify as an info box or were you mistaken? And out of curiosity, what makes a high school low importance according to some editors and medium to others? I used the same style and template with every high school page that I have created, yet they are never consistantly rated. Just curious. I would appreciate your feedback. [[User:Wallstreethotrod|Wallstreethotrod]] ([[User talk:Wallstreethotrod|talk]]) 20:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::I know this policy, and it has been dumb from the moment it was created. It was meant to reduce unnecessary bickering over nuances in citation styles, but it led to stubborn, backward-minded users monkeywrenching the process of converging to a uniform citation style throughout Wikipedia. I mean, think about what is ''supposed'' to happen now if we followed WP policy by the letter: I'm supposed to open a thread on the article talk page to ask whether there's consensus to adopt citation templates, and you would object. And it would be '''only you''', because the article had like 4 different contributors over the last half-decade total, most of whom aren't going to bother to respond for months. Bottom line: everything stays as is. |
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:I'm sorry. I was in kind of a hurry when I added the [[Template:WPSchools]] and thus forgot to add the <code>infobox=no</code> parameter. The infobox the article currently has is alright. |
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:::::Now to the other point: what I wrote was "no templates" is not a consistent citation style. You can certainly ''have'' a consistent citation style without using templates (the article decidedly does not), if you consistently follow some citation manual. But just the fact of "no templates were being used" does not make a citation style consistent. |
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:The importance rating is subjective. I don't really know where to separate between medium- and low-importance schools. In my mind the rating depends on how "well-known" a school is. Schools like Mater Dei (CA), Oak Hill (VA), Cardinal Mooney (OH), Highland Park (TX) are qualified for "mid" or even "high" importance because of their well-known athletic programs, for example. I wasn't really sure whether Walkersville has any well-known program, so I gave it a "low" importance rating. But you are free to change it. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 23:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::The reason we have those templates on Wikipedia is to simplify the process of having truly consistent citation styles, both within an article and across different articles. Once you have templates adopted widely, you can change the citation style (if needed) with little effort if needed. And finally, and in my opinion most importantly: these templates create a hidden [[Dublin Core]] object (search for "Z3988" in the HTML code any article that uses citation templates) that makes the citations machine readable. |
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:::::To me, these benefits outweigh the "costs" of templates (are there any, really?). But you, for any reason or no reason at all, will disagree. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 17:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::: I stopped reading after you said the policy "has been dumb from the moment it was created". If this discussion is not going to be based on policy, then I'm withdrawing from it. Editing articles should be in accordance with policy. If you don't like the policy, take it to a policy discussion page, not fight it out in articles. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 14:31, 30 September 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::::You're free to reserve the right to be offended on behalf of a policy. I'm sorry your feelings were hurt. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 14:34, 30 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== ITN recognition for [[Lucious Jackson]] == |
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I noticed the recent edit you made to [[Amobi Okoye]], but could not find anything in the NY Times article you referenced denying that he had been offered a Harvard scholarship. The original reference [http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4757683.html (9th paragraph)] is at odds with your edit summary. Have I missed something? Please clarify when you get a chance. Thanks! —[[User:TravisTX|<font face="Georgia" color="#2F335F">Travis</font>]][[User_talk:TravisTX|<font color="#888888" size="-1"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 01:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:I actually doubt that Houston Chronicle article, because there is no other newspaper verifying Okoye's Harvard offer. Not a single one. At least I couldn't find one. I only found Okoye's statements that his father wanted him to go to Harvard and that he was admitted. But no one mentions an academic scholarship besides the Houston Chronicle. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 02:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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==Your draft article, [[Draft:Molly Potter]]== |
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:'''Compromise''', see the article. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 10:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::If you really can’t find anything else to back up the Chronicle story, feel free to change the article back to your earlier wording. (It certainly wouldn’t be the first time the Chronicle got something wrong.) I also haven’t seen any other reference to a scholarship from Harvard. —[[User:TravisTX|<font face="Georgia" color="#2F335F">Travis</font>]][[User_talk:TravisTX|<font color="#888888" size="-1"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 13:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::And, of course, all of the Alabama newspapers want me to pay $2.95 per article :/ —[[User:TravisTX|<font face="Georgia" color="#2F335F">Travis</font>]][[User_talk:TravisTX|<font color="#888888" size="-1"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 14:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== recent edits to Laplace's Approximation == |
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== Huh? == |
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I have couple of issues with your two recent 2023-02-15 edits to the page on Laplace's Approximation. I'll explain: |
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Can I ask why you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Volcanic_Explosivity_Index&diff=197620944&oldid=197594680 this] without an edit summary and reason? I'm a rather involved editor in this project, and I usually consider it rude for a real editor like yourself (as opposed to a troll) to not at least inform an experienced editor like myself why my edit was summarily reverted? Doesn't happen to me except usually by nutjobs, and you don't appear to be one!!!! Thanks. [[User:Orangemarlin|<font color="orange">'''Orange'''</font><font color="teal">'''Marlin'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]]</sup></small> 03:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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1) since wikipedia has encyclopedic nature, it is important that it clearly defines its subject. The previous version's first sentence was: |
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:I was involved in that article, too. I actually made that example list. If you look at that list, you might recognize that there are always links to the volcanoes despite there are specific articles on the eruptions. That's why I reverted it. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 10:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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'''Laplace's approximation''' fits an un-normalised [[Multivariate normal distribution|Gaussian]] approximation to a (twice differentiable) un-normalised target density. |
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==Ellipsis== |
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The rules at [[Wikipedia:Did you know#The hook]] specify: "* Entries should start with an [[ellipsis]] of three [[full stop]]s (not the ellipsis character …), and end with a question mark." So if you want to replace the dot dot dot with an ellipsis character at the [[Template talk:Did you know#Suggestions]] instructions, then you should remove the rule to allow either form of an ellipsis. If not, we could agree to revert your edit. |
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which is a concise description of what it actually is. But your edit deletes this. |
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As it is, I edit ellipsis characters in hooks to change them to dot dot dot, to conform to the rule. If the suggested example tells newbies to do it "wrong", that is, wrong from the rule's point of view, then that "error" may occur more often. I don't know of a good reason for the rule, as either form of the ellipsis looks the same to me, except on the edit page. But maybe it looks different on someone else's system, so I have been making them consistently dot dot dot, even before someone else added the dot dot dot rule. |
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2) Laplace's Approximation is used in many numerate fields, such as, but not limited to (Bayesian) Statistics, Physics, etc. The previous page made this clear, and presented its use in Bayesian analysis as an example domain. After your edit, you simply silently assume that the domain is Bayesian Statistics. |
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I hope you didn't intend for everyone to have to use the ellipsis character for all hooks. Newbies can add three dots by imitating existing hooks, but an ellipsis character requires them to see <nowiki> … </nowiki> in edit mode, and grasp what it means. One of us would have a full-time job changing dot dot dots to an ellipsis character. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 21:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC) |
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3) your current edit days "Laplace's approximation provides an analytic expression for the posterior probability distribution...". I have several issues with this: a) "analytic expression" is not very precise, it neglects to mention that it is an approximation and that it is Gaussian, therefore "Gaussian approximation" is much more accurate. b) Laplace's approximation gives both an approximation to the posterior and to the marginal likelihood, this was carefully pointed out in the previous version, but is lost after your edit. |
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:Now I'm changing it back. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 06:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC) |
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4) the definition given in terms of MAP and Fisher info only makes sense in the particular use of Laplace's approximation to Bayesian Statistics, unlike the previous version. |
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::Okay. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 10:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC) |
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5) you say "Laplace is justified by Bernstein von Mises". I think this is not necessarily so, I would say at most "may be justified by". Whether or not an asymptotic property is a justification may greatly depend on the application. Clearly, Laplace himself didn't justify his method by Berstein von Mises. This sentence also uses vocabulary which hasn't yet been defined, for example "posterior" and "large sample". It isn't very understandable to a reader consulting the wikipedia page to figure out what Laplace's Approximation really is. |
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For these reasons, I think the version prior to your edit was superior. If you want to add links to Fisher Information and Bernstein von Mises, I think this would be great, but it should be added much further down in the page, after the necessary concepts have been properly introduced. I look forward to hear your views. |
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[[User:Inference|Inference]] ([[User talk:Inference|talk]]) 11:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:I was under the impression that the whole reason why [[Laplace's approximation]] was split from [[Laplace's method]] was so that the former can focus on the particular application in statistics, whereas the latter discusses the concept in more general terms. Since you were the one who originally created [[Laplace's approximation]], let me know what was your original motivation for the split, and how did you plan to distinguish between the two articles in terms of content? --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 12:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC) |
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::thanks bender235. The reason that I wrote "Laplace's approximation" distinct from "Laplace's method" is specified in the first line of the page |
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::{{Distinguish|text = [[Laplace's method]], which is based on an essentially identical construction. Whereas [[Laplace's method]] focusses on a limiting behaviour of the integral, Laplace's approximation isn't used in the limit, and considers both integral and integrand. This naming distinction may not be universal.}} |
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::Although the fundamental construction is the same in the two pages, I found it difficult to recognise the use that I describe, which is a pity, as it is fairly simple and elegant. I don't really have a strong view whether this should really be one common page or two separate pages, as long as everything is a clear as possible. A separate page seemed easiest for me. [[User:Inference|Inference]] ([[User talk:Inference|talk]]) 19:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:::We may disagree on this one, but I prefer the split between Laplace's method in general in one article, and its application in Bayesian statistics in the other. We could ask [[WT:WPSTATS]] for additional opinions if you want. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 19:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC) |
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::::I don't think the distinction right now is really "more general" vs "specific to various fields". The current [[Laplace's method]] is almost exclusively about the value of the integral in the limit, whereas [[Laplace's approximation]] is both about the value of the integral AND the integrand, and not in the limit. I also think that specialising to "its application in Bayesian statistics" may really represent a lost opportunity for unification; the (artificial) boundaries between traditional fields epitomises some of the problems science faces. If we only write pages on a mathematical method specifically and separately for physics, for statistics, for machine learning, for engineering, for signal processing etc, then that blocks cross-fertilisation and hinders understanding and progress. Mind you, I'm not saying there couldn't be a page called "Laplace's approximation applied to Bayesian statistics" -- I just happen to be particularly interested in the unifying view. Sure, other's perspective may be interesting. [[User:Inference|Inference]] ([[User talk:Inference|talk]]) 12:37, 20 February 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::I'm not sure why you think I have plans for [[Laplace's method]], and don't see any reason why selected applications couldn't be discussed on that page. Why shouldn't we have a page called "Laplace's approximation" being about approximating the integrand and integral, not in the limit, and not '''assuming''' any specific application field, but including any field where it may be of interest? That would be exactly what was implied by the title, and it happens not to coincide with the current content of [[Laplace's method]] (which has been well signposted). [[User:Inference|Inference]] ([[User talk:Inference|talk]]) 18:47, 22 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::I'm sympathetic to your idea, but you have to admit the article as currently constructed really focuses on the Bayesian application (not just the lead, but the example as well). Are you planning to add all the material and use cases you've mentioned? --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 19:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC) |
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== Wealthy historical figures == |
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::::::::ok, that sounds good. Yes, the focus is currently on the application in approximate Bayesian inference. I may add the application to neural networks. Technically this is also Bayesian inference of course, but since these models have very large numbers of parameters, the method is adapted in various ways. [[User:Inference|Inference]] ([[User talk:Inference|talk]]) 20:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC) |
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== [[Victor La Mer]] == |
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I noticed you edited the main page of the annual lists of Wealthy historical figures and placed two members from |
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one(which is set to come out on March 2009). For that reason, I have to remove the members from the list. However, |
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you can send in more infomation as to who these people are and where their wealth came from the citie the sources |
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and then they could be put on the next 2009 list. Thanks. [[User:Jughead.z(1)|Jughead.z(1)]] ([[User talk:Jughead.z(1)|talk]]) 18:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Hallo, You recently moved this, citing "spelling of last name according to VIAF", but all three sources use the spelling "LaMer" ([https://web.archive.org/web/20140505104744/http://web2.clarkson.edu/projects/chemistry/job/ chair named for him], [http://www.nasonline.org/publications/biographical-memoirs/memoir-pdfs/la-mer-victor.pdf NAS biog memoir - ignore the title page], [https://www.aps.org/programs/honors/fellowships/archive-all.cfm?initial=&year=1931&unit_id=APS&institution=Columbia+University APS fellows list]. See also [https://www.anb.org/display/10.1093/anb/9780198606697.001.0001/anb-9780198606697-e-1302431;jsessionid=5B92221F37B998E423454ABEA8F93451 ANB]. Could you please move him back to this, the most common spelling of his name. Thanks. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 21:55, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:I didn't think I was able to move it myself, but it seems I can do so - leaving this here to alert you to the undoing of your move. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 22:17, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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Hi, Bender. I saw your edits to [[Geology of Mars]], but I was puzzled what they were intended to achieve. Collapsing templates like that just makes the source harder to maintain and it wastes your time. I've left your changes in place, but please reconsider whether you really want them. Also, as I'm regularly reminded, edit summaries are your friend. Cheers,[[User:LeadSongDog|LeadSongDog]] ([[User talk:LeadSongDog|talk]]) 21:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::It seems [http://viaf.org/viaf/165031865 all library catalogues] are unanimous in their spelling. Plus, he seems to have spelled his own name "La Mer" in all his publications (example: [https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/cr60138a001], [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Retardation_of_Evaporation_by_Monolayers/z4WoBQAAQBAJ]), or at least I couldn't find anything that use your suggested spelling of "LaMer". --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 22:30, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:Well, actually I didn't intent to collapse the template data. I just wanted to update it. So I copied the template from its documentary page, where it happens to be collapsed. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 21:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Far from unanimous: Worldcat is not even consistent [https://www.worldcat.org/search?q=victor+laMer&author=Lamer+Victor+K%7CLamer%2C+Victor+K%7CLamer+Victor%7CLamer%2C+Victor+Kuhn%7CLa+Mer%2C+Victor+K LaMer] or [https://www.worldcat.org/search?q=victor+la+Mer&author=La+Mer+Victor+K%7CMer+Victor+K+La%7CLa+Mer%2C+Victor+Kuhn La Mer]. I wonder whether Google and Viaf feed off each other? But the four sources I mentioned above seem convincing. See [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015095019678&view=1up&seq=1 this] for an example using LaMer. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 23:00, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Worldcat is not an authority control. I was talking about actual national libaries, like [https://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n83827170.html Library of Congress]; "LaMer" isn't even listed among the variants there. I'm still not finding those third-party sources credible. When in doubt, we should go by however the person himself spelled his name. [https://clio.columbia.edu/catalog/1933002 His doctoral thesis] spells his name "La Mer". --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 01:09, 8 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== Charles III requested move discussion == |
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[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|30px|]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit war|edit war]]{{#if:|  according to the reverts you have made on [[:{{{1}}}]]}}. Note that the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]. If you continue, '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing'''. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. If necessary, pursue [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 17:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
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There is a [[Talk:Charles_III#Requested_move_23_July_2023|new requested move discussion]] in progress for the Charles III article. Since you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you might like to know about this one. Cheers. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 06:25, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Nomination of [[:Deunta Williams]] for deletion == |
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:Well, I'm not the one who reverted three times. That was [[User:Zodiiak]]. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 17:45, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::Please understand that the three revert rule clearly states that editors may make three reverts and can only be blocked on their fourth revert. I am simply leaving you a message to infrom you that edit warring can lead to a block of both parties involved. Cheers, [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 17:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::: Actually, thats a mis-statement of the rules. You almost undoubtedly *will* be blocked for 4R in 24h. But there is no entitlement to 3R; you can be blocked for edit warring for less. Meantime, please also note the convention of marking your reverts with "rv" or somesuch; not doing so can look underhand [[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] ([[User talk:William M. Connolley|talk]]) 22:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi Bender! I've noticed you were listed in a mediation cabal case for [[LeBron James]]. I've adopted the case and come up with a few questions that I'd like to hear your answers to. If you could [[Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-05-10_LeBron_James|reply to them]] whenever you can, I'd very much appreciate it! Thank you! [[User:Kntrabssi|Kntrabssi]] ([[User talk:Kntrabssi|talk]]) 22:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::Hi Bender! Firstly, I apologize for being gone for so long. I didn't receive a notification on my talk page that you guys had responded so I sort of drifted off I guess! Anyway, I've offered a compromise at the page. Take a look! [[User:Kntrabssi|Kntrabssi]] ([[User talk:Kntrabssi|talk]]) 09:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== November 2023 == |
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== Josh Shipp doesn't come last alphabetically == |
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[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|30px|link=]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[WP:Edit warring|edit war]]  according to the reverts you have made on [[:Maghrebi Jews]]. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to [[Wikipedia:Consensus#In talk pages|collaborate]] with others, to avoid editing [[WP:Disruptive editing|disruptively]], and to [[WP:Consensus|try to reach a consensus]], rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. |
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Try actually reading the edit before undo-ing it. This list is supposed to be someone alphabetical. (That means its in the order of the alphabet) Josh Shipp does not come after Russell Westbrook. At least not in our alphabet. I'm moving Josh Shipp back to his rightful place in the alphabetized order. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/214.4.159.21|214.4.159.21]] ([[User talk:214.4.159.21|talk]]) 14:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Prairie View A&M University Coaches Nav template== |
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# '''Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;''' |
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I've done a lot of work lately on the Prairie View A&M coaches, and then noticed that you have a [[Template:PVAMUPanthersCoach]] already in place. Sorry I missed it! I re-directed [[Billy Nicks]] to a page that several of us already developed, but I'd like to delete the template you made because there's another that's more complete. Sorry I didn't realize you had work in progress, I would have built on that. |
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:Cute, but [[WP:DTR]]. Thanks. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 20:10, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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WOuld you mind going to that template and proposing it for speedy delete? Also, please check over our work and see if anything we missed needs merged/corrected/etc.--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 13:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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''Moved from [[Talk:Maghrebi Jews]]'':<br> |
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:Well, since my template is obsolete, go ahead and propose a speedy delete. I am fine with that. --[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 13:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::Casting aspersions makes you irrelevant. Consider yourself ignored (lucky in that respect as there is so much I can say about you). [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 21:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Much to "say about me"? Don't hold back. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235|talk]]) 22:10, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::::I don't want to sink to your level. Anyway, you made yourself irrelevant (forever). [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 22:26, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::I've been contributing to Wikipedia for almost 20 years now, but I don't recall ever crossing you in any way. Seriously, elaborate if you can why you would have an apparent personal issue with me. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235|talk]]) 22:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::Suggest you both take this offline and hat the thread starting with [[WP:ADVOCACY]] as it's about personal contributors and not this article. '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">[[User_talk:Andrevan|🚐]]</span> 22:35, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== [[Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library]] == |
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Hey, wanted to see if you had an account on this, as it has a tremendous JSTOR access. '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">[[User_talk:Andrevan|🚐]]</span> 22:50, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== redundancy can be useful. add doi, don't delete url == |
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:I do have JSTOR access already from work, but thank you for letting me know. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 23:00, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Please do not delete URLs when you add DOIs. The redundancy is useful in this case. You will note that both fields exist in the template. One does not make the other pointless. Please do not '''force''' others to access information in a way that you dictate. Choice is good. Cheers. [[User:WAS 4.250|WAS 4.250]] ([[User talk:WAS 4.250|talk]]) 18:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Oh ok great. You may already have good sources. Not trying to be patronizing. Just figuring I'd mention it since you were using the Google Books and old NYT links. Those are good too. But there are some really good academic sources behind paywalls. Wikipedia Library also gives you De Gruyter, Cambridge, EbscoHost, Proquest, Gale, etc '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">[[User_talk:Andrevan|🚐]]</span> 23:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:::I understand what you mean, and I do have a preference for academic sources over newspaper articles. We have to keep in mind, though, that most of our readers do not have JSTOR etc. access, so Google Books links are generally a good idea. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 23:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Just my 2c, when possible, I suggest you combine the sources like I suggested, bundle the easily accessible Google or NYT primary sources with higher quality academic sources that are more authoritative and less wiggle room for people crying [[WP:RSOPINION]]. I get what you mean about trying to make sure readers can access all of the material. That's why I mentioned TWL because I think it's underappreciated and underutilized and you really don't need much to get into it, basically just extended-confirmed user and the willingness to sign up for an account that asks for some information like a real name and email. '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">[[User_talk:Andrevan|🚐]]</span> 23:38, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== Enrico James (musician) == |
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::Where someone said "''It's intuitively clear what clicking on a hypertext title means. Most readers will not know what a DOI is (I work for a high tech company, and this is my experience anyway. Random readers are probably even less likely to know.) Furthermore, the doi "looks" random, and users are taught to be wary about clicking on random looking links (these are often phishing or spam tracking links).''" I agree with that. Please do not delete URLs. I'm not asking you to go out of your way and add them. I'm not asking you to not add DOIs. Just please please do not delete URLs ''just because'' you are adding a DOI. Thank you. [[User:WAS 4.250|WAS 4.250]] ([[User talk:WAS 4.250|talk]]) 20:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Hey Bender, are you able to verify and approve the wiki article I created? [[User:Rickym1008|Rickym1008]] ([[User talk:Rickym1008|talk]]) 22:59, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== Hurricane article moves == |
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Hey there, in regards with your reference to the article i want to tell you that i didn't actually mean to readd the nonsense. I thought the last edit was the one that vandalized the page. Really sorry. [[User:Sergiogr|Sergiogr]] ([[User talk:Sergiogr|talk]]) 13:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC) |
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It's not nonsense at all; it's our [[WP:V|most fundamental policy]], non-negotiable and not fulfilled by implication that the source is is the case itself. If you confirm that you used the case itself for the information, I'll do it for you, though you'll still need a reference for the statement that the case is a "landmark".--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 17:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Have you actually read the Law journal article by Blakey? ––[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 17:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::No and reading it is irrelevant. If it says the case is a landmark case then ''cite it as a source''. A further reading section serves to point people to...further reading. It does not act as a reference for the material because you are not ''citing it as a reference''. If you tell me that it says it is a landmark case (not necessarily in those words), I'll reference that for you as well. Let me make this explicit. Tell me what information in this article comes from what sources, and I'll do the heavy lifting.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 17:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Allen Wilson (American football) == |
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Hey, @[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] This person needs a Wikipedia page.([https://g.co/kgs/NL59Rt Moslem Kazemi]) Do you think they have enough notability to do this? Can you see their name in any competitions they have participated in and search? Please help us with this. Thank you.I ,hope (: I apologize if my answer is unclear. [https://www.ihf.info/competitions/men/308/2022-ihf-mens-beach-handball-world-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Asian_Beach_Handball_Championship([https://media.imna.ir/d/2023/06/01/4/1876109.jpg?ts=1685613740000 Group A]) Team [[Kazma SC Kuwait|Kazma SC]]) and is on the player's name page.Check the references [http://www.farsnews.ir/news/13991115001023/%D9%84%DB%8C%DA%AF-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%B1-%D9%87%D9%86%D8%AF%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84 1] [https://irhf.ir/Default.aspx?PageName=News&ID=470641&Language=1 2] [http://fna.ir/f2h4mn 3] [https://t.me/iv?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.akhbarrasmi.com%2Fnews%2F140208217679123858%2F&rhash=7f8d1866d87b3c 4] [https://tn.ai/2731049 5] [https://borna.news/005C3U 6]The most well-known beach handball tournament is the World Championship, and this person has participated in these tournaments with the national team as much as necessary.[[2022 Asian Beach Handball Championship]]> [https://avayevarzeshnews.ir/?p=23098 Moslem Kazemi] ,be created:) [[User:ALIREZA HASANVAND|ALIREZA HASANVAND]] ([[User talk:ALIREZA HASANVAND|talk]]) 10:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Please add references to [[Allen Wilson (American football)]]. It's especially important that living people's articles be properly referenced. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]]/<small><small>([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]])/([[Special:Contributions/Davidwr|contribs]])/([[Special:Emailuser/davidwr|e-mail]])</small></small> 03:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]]/<small><small>([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]])/([[Special:Contributions/Davidwr|contribs]])/([[Special:Emailuser/davidwr|e-mail]])</small></small> 12:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::No problem. —[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 12:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:I'm not writing articles upon request. Please have a look at [[WP:1ST]] on how to write an article yourself, as well as [[WP:ATHLETE]] on criteria that are relevant to establish this person's notability. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 17:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Re: PNG to SVG == |
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== Deletion discussion about [[John Marshall High School (Richmond, Virginia)]] == |
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Regarding your edit summary [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Global_warming&diff=221414834&oldid=221174494]: |
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:<small>you might prefer to read [[Wikipedia:Image use policy]] before making that type of stupid revert again</small> |
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You may possible prefer to read this long discussion on talk[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Global_warming/Archives/2008/4#Svg_first_image], and read [[WP:CIVIL]] before doing a change that now has been reverted 4 times (for you alone) [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Global_warming&diff=217046619&oldid=217038935][http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Global_warming&diff=219692301&oldid=219677316][http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Global_warming&diff=221164886&oldid=221077205][http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Global_warming&diff=221414834&oldid=221174494]. (Note that the very first revert - pointed the discussion out for you).<br> |
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May i suggest that you either convert the existing PNG to SVG, create a better SVG, ask the original contributer to make one, leave the PNG alone or try to get consensus for the change on Talk? --[[User:KimDabelsteinPetersen|Kim D. Petersen]] ([[User talk:KimDabelsteinPetersen|talk]]) 13:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Hello Bender235, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. |
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:Huh? Why should I suggest to convert the exisiting PNG to SVG? It's already been done. Compare those to graphics. I can't see any difference, besides the colors. So what is wrong with that SVG version? ––[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 14:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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While your contributions are appreciated, I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, [[John Marshall High School (Richmond, Virginia)]], should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Marshall High School (Richmond, Virginia)]]. |
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Thanks for cleaning up the references. [[User:Crowsnest|Crowsnest]] ([[User talk:Crowsnest|talk]]) 12:48, 28 June 2008 (UTC) |
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To give the cost of an event in present year dollars, you need to inflate the cost of the event at the time. If a storm caused $100 million in 1950, that is about $900 million in 2008 USD - irrespective of what happened to the area afterwards. |
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Consider the following two extreme events: |
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#A storm, such as the [[Indianola Hurricane of 1886]] completely destroys a city which is then ''not'' rebuilt. |
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#An earthquake identical to the [[1906 San Francisco earthquake]], except that it occured 500,000 years ago. |
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The first will have an enormous cost, but a 2005 wealth normalization would give an insignificant value - as the population is non-existent. The second is even more extreme: As its before humanity was there, the cost is obviously 0. However, by definition (the calculation Pielke used would break down), a wealth normalization would give an identical figure to that of the 1906 earthquake - about [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319421/ $120 billion] (2006). |
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Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to [[Kanem-Bornu Empire]], would you be interested in a [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anthropology/Oral tradition taskforce|taskforce on oral tradition]]? [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 15:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Which of my hypothetical events has a higher cost, the storm that permanently destroyed a city, or the earthquake that hit an uninabited area? If you looked at wealth normalized figures the earthquake would be vastly more damaging, which is absurd. This is because wealth normalization attempts to say what the event would do IF it happened today, it is not the value of the damage caused in present year prices. That is what an inflation adjustment is for. Wealth normalization is a useful figure to know, but it is NOT the cost of an event.--[[User:CycloneAlley|CycloneAlley]] ([[User talk:CycloneAlley|talk]]) 10:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:What I contributed wasn't content, [[Special:Diff/906590889|just fixed the bibliography style]]. --[[User:Bender235|bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 15:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:You are making absurd comparisons. The whole wealth normalization thing is just a better way to compare the damage of early 20th century and present day storms. Even the WMO says "recent increase in societal impact from tropical cyclones has largely been caused by rising concentrations of population and infrastructure in coastal regions." —[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 12:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::My bad, apologies for wasting your time [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 15:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::Yes, I was taking it to extremes. Yes, wealth normalization is a better metric. However, wealth normalization is not now, has not been and never will be "cost" - do not '''ever''' conflate the two terms!--[[User:CycloneAlley|CycloneAlley]] ([[User talk:CycloneAlley|talk]]) 12:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Fact is that inflation adjustment is just the same, just not as precise as wealth normalization. ––[[User:Bender235|Bender235]] ([[User talk:Bender235#top|talk]]) 12:36, 29 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::The cost of an event is related to the damage caused not the damage potential. If a hurricane destroys one house on a sparsely populated coast its inappropriate to say the value of the damage ''caused'' is the value of the town that developed there after the event. Hurricane Katrina ''is'' the most costly storm in US history, that fact the Miami hurricane would do more damage today doesn't mean it was actually more costly. $100 in 1950 is equivalent to $900 in 2008, so saying something did $100 damage in 1950 is equivalent to saying it did $900 (2008 USD). It is not equivalent to saying it did $5000 (2008 USD) - even if that is what wealth normalization would indicate.--[[User:CycloneAlley|CycloneAlley]] ([[User talk:CycloneAlley|talk]]) 12:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::Actually using the numbers I just used to explain the semantic difference: |
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::::#The event caused $100 worth of damage in 1950 |
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::::#That damage is worth $900 in 2008 |
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::::#If the event occured again today it would cause $5000 in damage |
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::::To call the $5000 figure more accurate, when talking about the ''damage caused'' by the event is incorrect; but the inflated $900 reflects what the damage caused would be worth today. The $5000 is more useful when discussing potential for damage. Therefore, the inflated figures are better for the articles on the storms (as they report what the storm actually did), whilst normalized figures are more useful for broader discussion - such as that in [[effects of global warming]].--[[User:CycloneAlley|CycloneAlley]] ([[User talk:CycloneAlley|talk]]) 12:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC) |
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[edit]You removed a substantive edit on an article on a key figure in European central bank politics with solid data and a good argument because it was a pseudonymous publication. Thanks for promoting critical scrutinty, buddy. Clown show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.72.234 (talk) 23:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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Vernon Jarrett
[edit]Hello,
Your comment was reverted by mistake. I did not realize that I had inadvertently clicked the wrong area of the screen after I reviewed the comment that you've left on the Vernon Jarrett talk page. Sending my apologies for that error. →Lwalt ♦ talk 00:32, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]I need a person to write an article about a public servant. What is the process? How do I get in touch with you! Iamthedarknigh (talk) 07:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
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Gutenberg–Richter law
[edit]Your sarcastic edit summary does not make you right. Invoking WP:OWN is always the last refuge of those that do not have a case. Nor does it make me wrong. The "comical inconsistency" was not introduced by me. Rather it was your edit that introduced it, or at least made it worse, by templating only two of the existing 17 references. SpinningSpark 07:57, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- The citation style of the article is inconsistent and incomplete as of your latest revert. Some article titles are in quotation marks, others aren't. For some references publication year is written after author name, for others after journal volume. For some references the year is in parentheses, for others it isn't. I could go on. But I'm not blaming you for that, since it's most likely the consequence of different authors adding "their" citations over the years. What upset me was the implied duty on my part to first having any fixes to the citation style "discussed" somewhere, as if Wikipedia needed more bureaucracy for petty issues like this. --bender235 (talk) 14:46, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- The need for a discussion is explained at WP:CITEVAR. That's mot new bureaucracy, it's established long-standing bureaucracy. I'm not against making the style consistent, but the one thing that editors contributing to this page have been entirely 100% consistent in is not using templates. I see no good reason for not respecting that. SpinningSpark 15:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- "Not using templates" is not a citation style, let alone a consistent one. That's like considering "not using a typewriter" a literary genre. --bender235 (talk) 19:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- I beg to differ with that. And you are now contradicting yourself. If templates are not part of citation style, then inserting them certainly cannot be justified with the rationale of making styles consistent. Besides, preserving styles is a globally recognised principle per WP:STYLEVAR, not just limited to citations. There is no specific guidance on using typewriters, and I couldn't care less whether you do or not, but there is guidance on citation templates in WP:CITECONSENSUS The use of citation templates is neither encouraged nor discouraged: an article should not be switched between templated and non-templated citations without good reason and consensus (my emphasis). CITEVAR also explicitly covers this point; showing that the guidelines recognise templates as part of the style even if you don't. SpinningSpark 16:35, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- "Not using templates" is not a citation style, let alone a consistent one. That's like considering "not using a typewriter" a literary genre. --bender235 (talk) 19:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- I know this policy, and it has been dumb from the moment it was created. It was meant to reduce unnecessary bickering over nuances in citation styles, but it led to stubborn, backward-minded users monkeywrenching the process of converging to a uniform citation style throughout Wikipedia. I mean, think about what is supposed to happen now if we followed WP policy by the letter: I'm supposed to open a thread on the article talk page to ask whether there's consensus to adopt citation templates, and you would object. And it would be only you, because the article had like 4 different contributors over the last half-decade total, most of whom aren't going to bother to respond for months. Bottom line: everything stays as is.
- Now to the other point: what I wrote was "no templates" is not a consistent citation style. You can certainly have a consistent citation style without using templates (the article decidedly does not), if you consistently follow some citation manual. But just the fact of "no templates were being used" does not make a citation style consistent.
- The reason we have those templates on Wikipedia is to simplify the process of having truly consistent citation styles, both within an article and across different articles. Once you have templates adopted widely, you can change the citation style (if needed) with little effort if needed. And finally, and in my opinion most importantly: these templates create a hidden Dublin Core object (search for "Z3988" in the HTML code any article that uses citation templates) that makes the citations machine readable.
- To me, these benefits outweigh the "costs" of templates (are there any, really?). But you, for any reason or no reason at all, will disagree. --bender235 (talk) 17:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- I stopped reading after you said the policy "has been dumb from the moment it was created". If this discussion is not going to be based on policy, then I'm withdrawing from it. Editing articles should be in accordance with policy. If you don't like the policy, take it to a policy discussion page, not fight it out in articles. SpinningSpark 14:31, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- You're free to reserve the right to be offended on behalf of a policy. I'm sorry your feelings were hurt. --bender235 (talk) 14:34, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- I stopped reading after you said the policy "has been dumb from the moment it was created". If this discussion is not going to be based on policy, then I'm withdrawing from it. Editing articles should be in accordance with policy. If you don't like the policy, take it to a policy discussion page, not fight it out in articles. SpinningSpark 14:31, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]I have couple of issues with your two recent 2023-02-15 edits to the page on Laplace's Approximation. I'll explain:
1) since wikipedia has encyclopedic nature, it is important that it clearly defines its subject. The previous version's first sentence was:
Laplace's approximation fits an un-normalised Gaussian approximation to a (twice differentiable) un-normalised target density.
which is a concise description of what it actually is. But your edit deletes this.
2) Laplace's Approximation is used in many numerate fields, such as, but not limited to (Bayesian) Statistics, Physics, etc. The previous page made this clear, and presented its use in Bayesian analysis as an example domain. After your edit, you simply silently assume that the domain is Bayesian Statistics.
3) your current edit days "Laplace's approximation provides an analytic expression for the posterior probability distribution...". I have several issues with this: a) "analytic expression" is not very precise, it neglects to mention that it is an approximation and that it is Gaussian, therefore "Gaussian approximation" is much more accurate. b) Laplace's approximation gives both an approximation to the posterior and to the marginal likelihood, this was carefully pointed out in the previous version, but is lost after your edit.
4) the definition given in terms of MAP and Fisher info only makes sense in the particular use of Laplace's approximation to Bayesian Statistics, unlike the previous version.
5) you say "Laplace is justified by Bernstein von Mises". I think this is not necessarily so, I would say at most "may be justified by". Whether or not an asymptotic property is a justification may greatly depend on the application. Clearly, Laplace himself didn't justify his method by Berstein von Mises. This sentence also uses vocabulary which hasn't yet been defined, for example "posterior" and "large sample". It isn't very understandable to a reader consulting the wikipedia page to figure out what Laplace's Approximation really is.
For these reasons, I think the version prior to your edit was superior. If you want to add links to Fisher Information and Bernstein von Mises, I think this would be great, but it should be added much further down in the page, after the necessary concepts have been properly introduced. I look forward to hear your views.
Inference (talk) 11:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that the whole reason why Laplace's approximation was split from Laplace's method was so that the former can focus on the particular application in statistics, whereas the latter discusses the concept in more general terms. Since you were the one who originally created Laplace's approximation, let me know what was your original motivation for the split, and how did you plan to distinguish between the two articles in terms of content? --bender235 (talk) 12:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- thanks bender235. The reason that I wrote "Laplace's approximation" distinct from "Laplace's method" is specified in the first line of the page
- Although the fundamental construction is the same in the two pages, I found it difficult to recognise the use that I describe, which is a pity, as it is fairly simple and elegant. I don't really have a strong view whether this should really be one common page or two separate pages, as long as everything is a clear as possible. A separate page seemed easiest for me. Inference (talk) 19:01, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- We may disagree on this one, but I prefer the split between Laplace's method in general in one article, and its application in Bayesian statistics in the other. We could ask WT:WPSTATS for additional opinions if you want. --bender235 (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think the distinction right now is really "more general" vs "specific to various fields". The current Laplace's method is almost exclusively about the value of the integral in the limit, whereas Laplace's approximation is both about the value of the integral AND the integrand, and not in the limit. I also think that specialising to "its application in Bayesian statistics" may really represent a lost opportunity for unification; the (artificial) boundaries between traditional fields epitomises some of the problems science faces. If we only write pages on a mathematical method specifically and separately for physics, for statistics, for machine learning, for engineering, for signal processing etc, then that blocks cross-fertilisation and hinders understanding and progress. Mind you, I'm not saying there couldn't be a page called "Laplace's approximation applied to Bayesian statistics" -- I just happen to be particularly interested in the unifying view. Sure, other's perspective may be interesting. Inference (talk) 12:37, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- We may disagree on this one, but I prefer the split between Laplace's method in general in one article, and its application in Bayesian statistics in the other. We could ask WT:WPSTATS for additional opinions if you want. --bender235 (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand your general plan for these two articles. Why couldn't selected applications also be discussed in Laplace's method? --bender235 (talk) 16:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why you think I have plans for Laplace's method, and don't see any reason why selected applications couldn't be discussed on that page. Why shouldn't we have a page called "Laplace's approximation" being about approximating the integrand and integral, not in the limit, and not assuming any specific application field, but including any field where it may be of interest? That would be exactly what was implied by the title, and it happens not to coincide with the current content of Laplace's method (which has been well signposted). Inference (talk) 18:47, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand your general plan for these two articles. Why couldn't selected applications also be discussed in Laplace's method? --bender235 (talk) 16:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sympathetic to your idea, but you have to admit the article as currently constructed really focuses on the Bayesian application (not just the lead, but the example as well). Are you planning to add all the material and use cases you've mentioned? --bender235 (talk) 19:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- ok, that sounds good. Yes, the focus is currently on the application in approximate Bayesian inference. I may add the application to neural networks. Technically this is also Bayesian inference of course, but since these models have very large numbers of parameters, the method is adapted in various ways. Inference (talk) 20:49, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sympathetic to your idea, but you have to admit the article as currently constructed really focuses on the Bayesian application (not just the lead, but the example as well). Are you planning to add all the material and use cases you've mentioned? --bender235 (talk) 19:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Hallo, You recently moved this, citing "spelling of last name according to VIAF", but all three sources use the spelling "LaMer" (chair named for him, NAS biog memoir - ignore the title page, APS fellows list. See also ANB. Could you please move him back to this, the most common spelling of his name. Thanks. PamD 21:55, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't think I was able to move it myself, but it seems I can do so - leaving this here to alert you to the undoing of your move. PamD 22:17, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- It seems all library catalogues are unanimous in their spelling. Plus, he seems to have spelled his own name "La Mer" in all his publications (example: [1], [2]), or at least I couldn't find anything that use your suggested spelling of "LaMer". --bender235 (talk) 22:30, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Worldcat is not an authority control. I was talking about actual national libaries, like Library of Congress; "LaMer" isn't even listed among the variants there. I'm still not finding those third-party sources credible. When in doubt, we should go by however the person himself spelled his name. His doctoral thesis spells his name "La Mer". --bender235 (talk) 01:09, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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- Cute, but WP:DTR. Thanks. --bender235 (talk) 20:10, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Casting aspersions makes you irrelevant. Consider yourself ignored (lucky in that respect as there is so much I can say about you). M.Bitton (talk) 21:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Much to "say about me"? Don't hold back. --bender235 (talk) 22:10, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't want to sink to your level. Anyway, you made yourself irrelevant (forever). M.Bitton (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've been contributing to Wikipedia for almost 20 years now, but I don't recall ever crossing you in any way. Seriously, elaborate if you can why you would have an apparent personal issue with me. --bender235 (talk) 22:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Suggest you both take this offline and hat the thread starting with WP:ADVOCACY as it's about personal contributors and not this article. Andre🚐 22:35, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've been contributing to Wikipedia for almost 20 years now, but I don't recall ever crossing you in any way. Seriously, elaborate if you can why you would have an apparent personal issue with me. --bender235 (talk) 22:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't want to sink to your level. Anyway, you made yourself irrelevant (forever). M.Bitton (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Much to "say about me"? Don't hold back. --bender235 (talk) 22:10, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Casting aspersions makes you irrelevant. Consider yourself ignored (lucky in that respect as there is so much I can say about you). M.Bitton (talk) 21:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
Hey, wanted to see if you had an account on this, as it has a tremendous JSTOR access. Andre🚐 22:50, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I do have JSTOR access already from work, but thank you for letting me know. --bender235 (talk) 23:00, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oh ok great. You may already have good sources. Not trying to be patronizing. Just figuring I'd mention it since you were using the Google Books and old NYT links. Those are good too. But there are some really good academic sources behind paywalls. Wikipedia Library also gives you De Gruyter, Cambridge, EbscoHost, Proquest, Gale, etc Andre🚐 23:20, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I understand what you mean, and I do have a preference for academic sources over newspaper articles. We have to keep in mind, though, that most of our readers do not have JSTOR etc. access, so Google Books links are generally a good idea. --bender235 (talk) 23:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Just my 2c, when possible, I suggest you combine the sources like I suggested, bundle the easily accessible Google or NYT primary sources with higher quality academic sources that are more authoritative and less wiggle room for people crying WP:RSOPINION. I get what you mean about trying to make sure readers can access all of the material. That's why I mentioned TWL because I think it's underappreciated and underutilized and you really don't need much to get into it, basically just extended-confirmed user and the willingness to sign up for an account that asks for some information like a real name and email. Andre🚐 23:38, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- I understand what you mean, and I do have a preference for academic sources over newspaper articles. We have to keep in mind, though, that most of our readers do not have JSTOR etc. access, so Google Books links are generally a good idea. --bender235 (talk) 23:27, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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