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== Move to Encyclopædia Dramatica ==

The site claims on their main page and throughout the site that the correct name is Encyclopædia Dramatica, not Encyclopedia Dramatica. I usually refer to it as Encyclopaedia Dramatica because that is closest, but it is not actually accurate.

I propose that we move the name of the article to Encyclopædia Dramatica, with redirects from Encyclopedia Dramatica and Encyclopaedia Dramatica. <s>I further propose that we have a disambig page from [[ED]], as that is its most common abbreviation.</s> - I note that that is already there.

What say you? [[User:Dyinghappy|Dyinghappy]] ([[User talk:Dyinghappy|talk]]) 11:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

:I'm confused. From what I can see, ED refers to itself as Encyclopedia Dramatica. The logo says æ, yes, but lots of companies use stylised logos, you know? Its main page says "Welcome to Encyclopedia Dramatica", their about page uses Encyclopedia, their disclaimer page uses Encyclopedia, their article on themselves uses Encyclopedia, even their URL uses Encyclopedia. I understand that using æ in a URL would be problematic, but ae could have been a substitute, you know? In summary: Throughout the site it uses Encyclopedia to refer to itself, as far as I can see. [[User:Dreaded Walrus|Dreaded Walrus]] <sup> [[User talk:Dreaded Walrus|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Dreaded Walrus|c]]</sup> 18:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::It would be æ if more people knew how to type it on their keyboards. The name of the site uses æ. [[User:SchmuckyTheCat|SchmuckyTheCat]] ([[User talk:SchmuckyTheCat|talk]])

::But then even Britannica.com, the web site of [[Encyclopædia Britannica]] Inc., uses &lt;title&gt;Encyclop'''e'''dia - Britannica Online Encyclop'''e'''dia&lt;/title&gt;. --[[User:Damian Yerrick|Damian Yerrick]] ([[User talk:Damian Yerrick|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Damian Yerrick|stalk]]) 15:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::: what's that got to do with what ED do?? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.149.13.127|81.149.13.127]] ([[User talk:81.149.13.127|talk]]) 19:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->



::ED says the spelling used in the URL was entirely due to the fact that URLs cant have these kind of special characters in them.:: [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/141.158.1.115|141.158.1.115]] ([[User talk:141.158.1.115|talk]]) 18:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Question marks ==

"''The intended style for Encyclopedia Dramatica is to [[Literal_and_figurative_language|figuratively]] place topics in a humorous and opinionated way.''"

1. Is this sentence necessary? What does it add that's not covered in the previous sentences?<br>
2. "Humorous" and "opinionated", according to whom? These are POV adjectives. Which reliable third-party source did the editor get it from? It's unclear.<br>
3. "to figuratively place topics" is a split infinitive. It's best to avoid it.<br>
4. For style, overall, maybe we can consider re-writing it by deleting the wordiness and avoiding the split infinitive -- provided that the sentence can be sourced.<br>

What do others think? [[User:J Readings|J Readings]] ([[User talk:J Readings|talk]]) 07:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Adding another sentence with several question marks:

"''The website has served as a "virtual" Thing for Anonymous to visit[6] and learn new words, or memes, from.''[18]"


== June 2024 ==
1. The sentence ends with the preposition "from." Stylistically, we should avoid ending sentences with a preposition.<br>
2. Do we really need to say "virtual Thing"?? "Thing" itself seems to be an archaic piece of jargon divorced from current mainstream usage in the English language. At least, that's what the linked text indicates. Second, the cited source does not make any mention of a "virtual Thing".<br>
3. Couldn't we simply cite what the third-party reliable source actually says here -- "favorite haunt"? What would be wrong with that?<br>
4. Is there any way we can cut down on the conjunctive "and" in this article? Whoever originally helped write the first article (I wasn't part of that editing), did a good job of keeping the sentences simple and clear. Speaking only for myself, it would be great if we could maintain that structural clarity.<br>


Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. '''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Last sentence with question marks:


:It's back, and according to the Dramatica forum, "[[Namecheap]] suspended the domain." So off we go with a new domain, with .top holding the record for the shortest tenure at less than a month.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 18:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
"''Evidence suggests that Anonymous now uses Encyclopædia Dramatica as a planning hub for the majority of its [[strategic management]] operations.''"<ref>{{cite episode | title = Anonymous operation leads to pedophile conviction | network = [[Global Television Network]] | month = September |year = 2006 }}</ref>


::Re [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Encyclopedia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=1228263269 this edit]. ED currently has two domains, edramatica.com which was registered on 9 June 2024, and dramatica.wtf which was registered on 13 May 2024 and is also being used for the forums. Since edramatica.com seems to be the main address and dramatica.wtf is a mirror, the article should give edramatica.com as the address per [[WP:ELMINOFFICIAL]].--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 10:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
1. Evidence suggests...? That smacks of [[WP:OR|original research]] and [[WP:SYN|original synthesis]], no? <br>
2. The citation for this sentence is an improperly sourced TV program that cannot be verified per [[WP:V]]. We need an exact date so one of us can go to the library, etc., in order to verify that the source directly supports the claims made in the sentence. Right now, it doesn't work. <br>
3. It could be the sentence is fine with a little polishing, but the source is inappropriate, in which case we should remove the citation to the talk page (or just completely from the article) and replace the citation with the previous one.<br>
4. If that's the issue, this sentence and its preceding would then seem redundant. Do we really need both in that instance? If so, why?<br>


:::Re [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Encyclopedia_Dramatica&curid=21320889&diff=1229560091&oldid=1229353225 this edit]: edramatica.com is down at the moment, but it is unclear whether this is a temporary blip or something more serious.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 15:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for reading, [[User:J Readings|J Readings]] ([[User talk:J Readings|talk]]) 10:39, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm an ED regular, and I saw it go down live. When it went down, edramatica.com was replaced with a page that said, "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)", so I think it's safe to believe that edramatica.com has been suspended by EasyDNS. [[User:Isthisarandomaccountwellyes|Isthisarandomaccountwellyes]] ([[User talk:Isthisarandomaccountwellyes|talk]]) 17:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, there have been persistent claims in the past few weeks that domain registrars are unhappy with some of the content on ED. Freedom of speech is one thing, deliberate harassment and defamation of living people is another. Since this is all part of the fun (cough, cough) at ED, it leaves them with the difficult task of finding a new domain and web host.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 18:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
*And thanks to the wonders of the [[Wayback Machine]], we can see the termination message [https://web.archive.org/web/20240617172230/http://edramatica.com/ here]. It does indeed say "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)" as a message from [[easyDNS]], complete with a dead skeleton pirate. At this rate ED will end up as a [[Tor (network)|Tor hidden service]] only, because no domain will have them.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 18:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
*:The forums at [https://dramatica.wtf dramatica.wtf] also seem to be down, as all I get is an error message saying "Page could not be loaded". (On other devices I tried, the website won't even load at all and just says "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN") [[Special:Contributions/92.9.147.249|92.9.147.249]] ([[User talk:92.9.147.249|talk]]) 22:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
:They are now on encyclopediadramatica.gay, which was registered with [[Enom]] on 17 June 2024. So let's see how long this lasts, they have had three new domains in little over a month.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::That might not be the wisest choice, per the [[.gay#Harassment protections|§ Harassment protections]] section of the [[.gay]] article. I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see how long this one will last for. [[Special:Contributions/92.9.147.249|92.9.147.249]] ([[User talk:92.9.147.249|talk]]) 11:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
:::OT, but i'm surprised to see ED able to registed the .gay domain at all. [[Special:Contributions/95.24.34.99|95.24.34.99]] ([[User talk:95.24.34.99|talk]]) 11:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
::The .gay website now redirects to edramatica.com, which is working again. [[User:ObserveOwl|ObserveOwl]] ([[User talk:ObserveOwl#top|talk]]) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)


===.win domain===
== Pictures Therein ==
Re [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Encyclopedia_Dramatica&curid=21320889&diff=1234790291&oldid=1234154719 this edit]: It's true that the site is up and running at .win, but it is also up and running at .gay at the time of writing. This leads to a problem with [[WP:ELMINOFFICIAL]] as usually only one URL is given.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:.gay is the current official domain and hosts both the Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums and the wiki. .win is an unauthorized copy of the site that was made by a disgruntled former wiki sysop. The .win site doesn't even have a forum because the guy who runs it never even had a copy of the forum database (although he tried to beg the owner of .gay for the database).


I think more focus needs to be put on the fact that ED hosts graphically shocking pictures...but I don't know how to do this without hitting the Original Research barrier. [[User:Lots42|Lots42]] ([[User talk:Lots42|talk]]) 06:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:No one of any importance from .online or any of the previous domains is using .win, they are all on .gay. [[User:GirlOnInternet|GirlOnInternet]] ([[User talk:GirlOnInternet|talk]]) 00:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
*How about you link to their goatse page and also an article mentioning how goatse is offensive. moron. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.233.156.111|96.233.156.111]] ([[User talk:96.233.156.111|talk]]) 13:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:*We already have an article on [[Goatse]]. Also, I don't think we're allowed to link directly to shock pages anyway. I don't think there's a neutral way to say that they host shock images on ED. (Oh, and please watch the name-calling, anonymous user.) [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]]• [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[WP:HELPTPH|HELP!]])</sup> 21:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
::*To be honest, they're only shocking when you're not used to seeing that sort of material. If you spend enough time on 4chan and watching porn like I do, you do become desensitized to it to some extent.--[[User:Spacious, Comfortable, Enjoyable|Spacious, Comfortable, Enjoyable]] ([[User talk:Spacious, Comfortable, Enjoyable|talk]]) 09:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, okay? Maybe I'm missing the point. I don't care to watch the 'operation channel' so it still weirds me out when I flip the channel and see actual flesh cutting. [[User:Lots42|Lots42]] ([[User talk:Lots42|talk]]) 10:48, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
::*The first reference in the Goatsee page is a link to the shocking image itself. If that shocking image was put in there, why can't others be put in here? We can at least mention about them (and put the wikipedia links related to them /for those who have/) 09:17, 04 August 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.84.116.16|92.84.116.16]] ([[User talk:92.84.116.16|talk]]) </small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::*Because we aren't a directory of links to shock sites. It would be absurd to ''not'' have a link to goatse on the goatse page. What would you propose we add to the ED page? [[User:Protonk|Protonk]] ([[User talk:Protonk|talk]]) 06:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


::The main pages of .gay and .win are different, so they are not a complete mirror. Also, .win does not have the forums which are only on .gay. So it does look like .win is an unofficial mirror and not endorsed by the people at .gay.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
== 'a much less funny online encyclopaedia' ==


: Those are 'very interesting' one sided comments by both editors, hmmm, but above statement makes no sense if some ver is accepted or not... .win has more articles, also .win has more quality videos... [[Special:Contributions/105.72.201.30|105.72.201.30]] ([[User talk:105.72.201.30|talk]]) 16:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
--does not refer to Wikipedia, but 'Uncyclopedia.' If you've ever been to the latter, you'd know that Wikipedia is a lot lulzier. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Christf**k|Christf**k]] ([[User talk:Christf**k|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Christf**k|contribs]]) 18:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:it does, the quote directly links to EDs Wikipedia page in the ED:About page--[[User:Liekmudkipz|Kip]] [[User_talk:Liekmudkipz|Kip]] 20:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


::I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over which is the better or more official version, but they are not serving exactly the same content and .win does not have the forum pages.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 16:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
== New York Times article about internet trolling mentions ED and its users in detail ==


:It would seem that .win is down for the count, leaving edramatica.com as the sole host of the property. The circle of life continues... '''[[User:Botto|<span style="color:#38003B">BOTTO</span>]]'''<sub>&nbsp;([[User talk:Botto|<span style="color:#38003B">T</span>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Botto|<span style="color:#38003B">C</span>]])</sub> 16:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin How can we work this into the article]? There's a wealth of information there about Encyclopedia Dramatica.--[[User:Hope of the Future|Hope of the Future]] ([[User talk:Hope of the Future|talk]]) 18:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
::It's hard to keep up with this, but at the time of writing, .gay is completely offline, while .win has a page saying "It's over - for now... Due to reasons that shall not be disclosed I will not be able to run encyclopediadramatica.win anymore - at least all on my own." This means that edramatica.com is the only working version at the moment, and thankfully we no longer have to listen to arguments about whether .win or .gay is the better version, because both of them are unavailable now.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 16:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
: One of the users who was editing for me on certain wikipedos said many edpedo administrators have different accounts, playing good and bad cops, total anarchy! Many are porn maniacs! Lots of good stuff but overdoing on sick things!
:::{{Reply|ianmacm}} I'm beginning to get concerned about the quality of the article, as the list of domains & owners is becoming too unwieldy for the infobox. We should probably find a way to truncate it. '''[[User:Botto|<span style="color:#38003B">BOTTO</span>]]'''<sub>&nbsp;([[User talk:Botto|<span style="color:#38003B">T</span>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Botto|<span style="color:#38003B">C</span>]])</sub> 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
::I agree there are gross pictures on ED but there is no need to accuse wikipedia members of being pedophiles. [[User:Lots42|Lots42]] ([[User talk:Lots42|talk]]) 21:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Agreed, I'm not sure that the infobox needs to list all of the domains that are now defunct.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 17:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I've looked at ED, and some people involved with the Grawp/Hagger stuff refer to Wikipedians as "Wikipedos" just as general slang, without any serious implication that they are pedophiles - that would be absurd without evidence.--[[User:Hope of the Future|Hope of the Future]] ([[User talk:Hope of the Future|talk]]) 21:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
: : Users like grawp/hagger attacks wiki big time with blue advark, some of them may be voronic and lateral from uk! White monkey acts is if he owed the world there!
::::Also, ED seems to have been down for most of today. I'm not sure why, another DDOS attack like the ones that have hit the chans recently?--[[User:Hope of the Future|Hope of the Future]] ([[User talk:Hope of the Future|talk]]) 21:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Naw, people are reading the web copy of the Sunday NYT magazine and checking out this "internets" thing. My guess is that it only takes a small percentage of the NY Times reader base to bring their servers down. [[User:Protonk|Protonk]] ([[User talk:Protonk|talk]]) 22:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::No, it's DDOS'd. ED has plenty of bandwidth for normal usage, even surges of it, but not extended DDOS. [[User:SchmuckyTheCat|SchmuckyTheCat]] ([[User talk:SchmuckyTheCat|talk]])


== Current Status ==
== no link? ==


why is there no link? [[User:Gahex220|Gahex220]] ([[User talk:Gahex220|talk]]) 17:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Due to lack of money and the host of Encyclopedia Dramatica [[null route|null routing]] it, the current status is inactive. [[Special:Contributions/72.161.25.201|72.161.25.201]] ([[User talk:72.161.25.201|talk]]) 22:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, it's null routed, because that's the easiest way to respond to this DDOS. [[User:SchmuckyTheCat|SchmuckyTheCat]] ([[User talk:SchmuckyTheCat|talk]])


:There have been so many ups and downs in 2024 that it is hard to keep track of them all. However, the article is correct that edramatica.com is currently the only one that is online. There is also a problem with [[WP:LINKLOVE]] due to unsuitable material on the main page (harassment, [[Goatse.cx]] etc).--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
== About time ==
::I'm not sure why the user keeps deleting this as it answered the question and it's useful for other editors who might ask the same question. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 23:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:::as of 12/20/24, edramatica.com is down with the "timed out" error, awaiting further information. [[User:Woahglaceon|Woahglaceon]] ([[User talk:Woahglaceon|talk]]) 06:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::IsItDownRightNow says that it has been down for over a week.[https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/edramatica.com.html] This means that at the time of writing, the site is not online at all. This isn't a major panic, as ED has been offline for weeks in the past and returned. Watch this space.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Are you checking some other ED mirror? I'm taking about edramatica.com, which was back on the same day it got down, which was 12/20/24. [[User:Woahglaceon|Woahglaceon]] ([[User talk:Woahglaceon|talk]]) 18:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::I couldn't access edramatica.com yesterday (20 December), but it is back online today. IsItDownRightNow agrees and says "Last down: 1 day 10 hours ago.[https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/edramatica.com.html]--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 20:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


== ED Downtime ==
This is just to say it's about damn time this article came back to WP. Honestly, getting involved in this debate a couple months back was probably a good part of reason for me not coming around here very often afterwards. I'd like to share this quote from my talk page: "Reality check: ED? It's not getting an article on Wikipedia, period/full stop, no matter what legalisms you try to bring to bear. It be dead, and you can't breathe any life into its corpse."


edramatica.com is down again.
Thanks for finally coming to your senses. No thanks for acting like whiny children. Seriously, this is the most prevalent research site in the world for every subject imaginable (yes, I said research, as in even scientific research), and yet a handful of powerful people successfully censor it for years because they were cyber-bullied?
(12/23/24) [[User:Woahglaceon|Woahglaceon]] ([[User talk:Woahglaceon|talk]]) 06:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


:edramatica.com is back up. (12/23/24) [[User:Woahglaceon|Woahglaceon]] ([[User talk:Woahglaceon|talk]]) 09:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
To comment on the article itself, removing the brackets around the d in "[d]one in the spirit of..." would be in order, as changing capitalization at the start of a sentence is not something that needs to be clarified as a correction, unless WP has a drastically different style guide. [[User:SamuelRiv|SamuelRiv]] ([[User talk:SamuelRiv|talk]]) 03:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


::I'm relaxed about this, as ED's hosting is famously unreliable. It has been offline for days or weeks in the past.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 12:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:There's no need for rudeness. There are many nuetral editors on Wikipedia willing to take a look at things if you have a dispute. [[User:Lots42|Lots42]] ([[User talk:Lots42|talk]]) 04:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Sorry for the long delay, edramatica.com was back up the next day. [[User:Woahglaceon|Woahglaceon]] ([[User talk:Woahglaceon|talk]]) 09:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah dude. Thems the breaks. It's nice to talk a good game about being even handed, but what did you expect? ED gets part of its notoriety from crapping all over Wikipedia. Did you honestly think that it would be treated like any other site by this community? I stopped getting fired up about that stuff when I was 17. People are people. The system is designed to not be censored (hence ED is here after a long process), but that doesn't stop people from pushing back against the article for their own reasons. Just because the system is designed to be a certain way doesn't mean all (or even most) of the users will behave in that fashion. [[User:Protonk|Protonk]] ([[User talk:Protonk|talk]]) 04:21, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
==Start to 'C' class==
Sections or no, this article gives a clear understanding of the subject (given the sourcing limitations), sources verify the text, there are no copyedit problems and the article is stable. [[User:Protonk|Protonk]] ([[User talk:Protonk|talk]]) 03:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:06, 28 December 2024

June 2024

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Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's back, and according to the Dramatica forum, "Namecheap suspended the domain." So off we go with a new domain, with .top holding the record for the shortest tenure at less than a month.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Re this edit. ED currently has two domains, edramatica.com which was registered on 9 June 2024, and dramatica.wtf which was registered on 13 May 2024 and is also being used for the forums. Since edramatica.com seems to be the main address and dramatica.wtf is a mirror, the article should give edramatica.com as the address per WP:ELMINOFFICIAL.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 10:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Re this edit: edramatica.com is down at the moment, but it is unclear whether this is a temporary blip or something more serious.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm an ED regular, and I saw it go down live. When it went down, edramatica.com was replaced with a page that said, "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)", so I think it's safe to believe that edramatica.com has been suspended by EasyDNS. Isthisarandomaccountwellyes (talk) 17:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, there have been persistent claims in the past few weeks that domain registrars are unhappy with some of the content on ED. Freedom of speech is one thing, deliberate harassment and defamation of living people is another. Since this is all part of the fun (cough, cough) at ED, it leaves them with the difficult task of finding a new domain and web host.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are now on encyclopediadramatica.gay, which was registered with Enom on 17 June 2024. So let's see how long this lasts, they have had three new domains in little over a month.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That might not be the wisest choice, per the § Harassment protections section of the .gay article. I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see how long this one will last for. 92.9.147.249 (talk) 11:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OT, but i'm surprised to see ED able to registed the .gay domain at all. 95.24.34.99 (talk) 11:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The .gay website now redirects to edramatica.com, which is working again. ObserveOwl (talk) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

.win domain

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Re this edit: It's true that the site is up and running at .win, but it is also up and running at .gay at the time of writing. This leads to a problem with WP:ELMINOFFICIAL as usually only one URL is given.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

.gay is the current official domain and hosts both the Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums and the wiki. .win is an unauthorized copy of the site that was made by a disgruntled former wiki sysop. The .win site doesn't even have a forum because the guy who runs it never even had a copy of the forum database (although he tried to beg the owner of .gay for the database).
No one of any importance from .online or any of the previous domains is using .win, they are all on .gay. GirlOnInternet (talk) 00:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The main pages of .gay and .win are different, so they are not a complete mirror. Also, .win does not have the forums which are only on .gay. So it does look like .win is an unofficial mirror and not endorsed by the people at .gay.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those are 'very interesting' one sided comments by both editors, hmmm, but above statement makes no sense if some ver is accepted or not... .win has more articles, also .win has more quality videos... 105.72.201.30 (talk) 16:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over which is the better or more official version, but they are not serving exactly the same content and .win does not have the forum pages.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would seem that .win is down for the count, leaving edramatica.com as the sole host of the property. The circle of life continues... BOTTO (TC) 16:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's hard to keep up with this, but at the time of writing, .gay is completely offline, while .win has a page saying "It's over - for now... Due to reasons that shall not be disclosed I will not be able to run encyclopediadramatica.win anymore - at least all on my own." This means that edramatica.com is the only working version at the moment, and thankfully we no longer have to listen to arguments about whether .win or .gay is the better version, because both of them are unavailable now.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ianmacm: I'm beginning to get concerned about the quality of the article, as the list of domains & owners is becoming too unwieldy for the infobox. We should probably find a way to truncate it. BOTTO (TC) 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, I'm not sure that the infobox needs to list all of the domains that are now defunct.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no link?

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why is there no link? Gahex220 (talk) 17:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There have been so many ups and downs in 2024 that it is hard to keep track of them all. However, the article is correct that edramatica.com is currently the only one that is online. There is also a problem with WP:LINKLOVE due to unsuitable material on the main page (harassment, Goatse.cx etc).--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure why the user keeps deleting this as it answered the question and it's useful for other editors who might ask the same question. Knitsey (talk) 23:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
as of 12/20/24, edramatica.com is down with the "timed out" error, awaiting further information. Woahglaceon (talk) 06:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
IsItDownRightNow says that it has been down for over a week.[1] This means that at the time of writing, the site is not online at all. This isn't a major panic, as ED has been offline for weeks in the past and returned. Watch this space.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you checking some other ED mirror? I'm taking about edramatica.com, which was back on the same day it got down, which was 12/20/24. Woahglaceon (talk) 18:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't access edramatica.com yesterday (20 December), but it is back online today. IsItDownRightNow agrees and says "Last down: 1 day 10 hours ago.[2]--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ED Downtime

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edramatica.com is down again. (12/23/24) Woahglaceon (talk) 06:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

edramatica.com is back up. (12/23/24) Woahglaceon (talk) 09:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm relaxed about this, as ED's hosting is famously unreliable. It has been offline for days or weeks in the past.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 12:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the long delay, edramatica.com was back up the next day. Woahglaceon (talk) 09:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]