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Where? What zero-brain puts that in a tooltip? Snots != brains FFS.

PS. This article is toxic but the demagogues who are pushing their agenda have locked it down. So typical and it's nothing we've not seen before. This is a Wikipedia article - keep your agendas at home in our own closet!

Usain Bolt's Olympic Golds

Usian Bolt has achieved 9 gold medals at the Olympics Games. He achieved the "Triple Triple" at his final games in Rio 2016 when he won the 4x100m relay with his teammates, his final race as an Olympian. He won the 100m, 200m and 4x100m at every games he attended - 2008, 2012 and 2016.

Dr. Herb Elliot link

The link to Doctor Herb Elliot links to 1960 Olympic 1500m winner Herb Elliot, not Jamaican Doctor Herb Elliot who the link should go to.

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Is it possible to list Bolt's world records and wins at championship (like the Olympics and World Championships) at the bottom of the page, similar to the other pages of athletics who also hold world records and have won Olympic/World Championships?

Or, would this not be wise considering how lengthy the page already is right now? ViveLaSuisse (talk) 02:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Quincy Wilson has now pushed usain to no.7 on the all time youth bests 400 meter dash with a time of 44.2 recognized by ^[1] 2600:1007:A111:748:F477:FEAE:84BE:53F3 (talk) 01:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how to read that source. Do you have one that mentions Bolt? McYeee (talk) 05:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: The way you are attempting to use the source looks like WP:OR. We need a source explicitly stating that Bolt is ranked #7. Left guide (talk) 21:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this the right event? It lists him at #10. McYeee (talk) 23:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://worldathletics.org/athletes/united-states/quincy-wilson-15025343

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-I added this reference, template, and gma links; also, the previous record of 9.74sec set by compatriot Asafa Powell at Rieti,[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hh2IjM6I0US9yn9Y8wwN8EBRlQAQ   Afp.google.com,  Bolt strikes for 100m world record at New York meeting]</ref>
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-Watching the olympics right now, he just broke out from the pack and ran 9.69. He actually started slacking off with like 20 meters. Dont have a link just yet, but Im sure someone will soon. [[Special:Contributions/69.123.33.176|69.123.33.176]] ([[User talk:69.123.33.176|talk]]) 03:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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-== Hacking Emergency ==
+Where? What zero-brain puts that in a tooltip? Snots != brains FFS.
+PS. This article is toxic but the demagogues who are pushing their agenda have locked it down. So typical and it's nothing we've not seen before. This is a Wikipedia article - keep your agendas at home in our own closet!
-Someone has hacked into this article (obviously). An administrator needs to fix this. I have tried but am unable to fix the article. HELP!!!!!! [[User:JakeH07|JakeH07]] ([[User talk:JakeH07|talk]]) 18:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
+== Usain Bolt's Olympic Golds ==
-:Since this will be a popular article due to the subject's recent achievement and its link on the front page, there will be some vandalism.  Accordingly, there will be a lot of registered users watching and removing the vandalism very quickly. [[User:Slow Graffiti|Slow Graffiti]] ([[User talk:Slow Graffiti|talk]]) 19:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
+Usian Bolt has achieved 9 gold medals at the Olympics Games. He achieved the "Triple Triple" at his final games in Rio 2016 when he won the 4x100m relay with his teammates, his final race as an Olympian. He won the 100m, 200m and 4x100m at every games he attended - 2008, 2012 and 2016.
-:You can consider me one of those watching users. Useless vandalism really frustrates me. Thanks for taking care of that one. [[User:JakeH07|JakeH07]] ([[User talk:JakeH07|talk]]) 20:52, 16 August 2008 (UTC)JakeH07
+== Dr. Herb Elliot link ==
-:Any talk of his slowing and celebrating before finishing must be considered racism and should be eliminated immediately. [[User:Cynic783|Cynic783]] ([[User talk:Cynic783|talk]]) 21:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
-::The celebrating before the finish is reported in reliable sources, including the New Zealanbd Herald article which quotes Bolt himself confirming it. [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 00:33, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
-:It's not racism if he did celebrate.[[User:JakeH07|JakeH07]] ([[User talk:JakeH07|talk]]) 04:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)JakeH07
+The link to Doctor Herb Elliot links to 1960 Olympic 1500m winner Herb Elliot, not Jamaican Doctor Herb Elliot who the link should go to.
-==What if?==
-It would be interesting to know what time he would have achieved if he had maintained his speed till the end of the course, instead of slowing down. Any estimates? --[[User:Phenylalanine|Phenylalanine]] ([[User talk:Phenylalanine|talk]]) 21:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
+== Banners/footers ==
-:9.58 [[User:JakeH07|JakeH07]] ([[User talk:JakeH07|talk]]) 04:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)JakeH07
+Is it possible to list Bolt's world records and wins at championship (like the Olympics and World Championships) at the bottom of the page, similar to the other pages of athletics who also hold world records and have won Olympic/World Championships?
-: [[Ato Bolden]], retired 100m specialist, commentator for [[NBC Television]], estimated that had Bolt gone all-out to the line, he would have had a time of 9.59 <ref> NBC Television, ''Olympics Evening'', 16 Aug 2008 </ref>
-: [[Donovan Bailey]], Olympic 100m record holder before Bolt reset it, commentator for [[CBC Television]], estimated that had Bolt gone all-out to the line, he would have had a time of 9.55 <ref> CBC Television, ''Olympic Morning'', 16 Aug 2008 </ref>
-: - those two sentences should be added to the article. [[Special:Contributions/70.51.11.210|70.51.11.210]] ([[User talk:70.51.11.210|talk]]) 05:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
+Or, would this not be wise considering how lengthy the page already is right now? [[User:ViveLaSuisse|ViveLaSuisse]] ([[User talk:ViveLaSuisse|talk]]) 02:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
-: Haha, this is not exactly an appropriate place for such discussion. But for the record, all those estimates are far too low. While he did slow down a bit, it's not like he tried to stop running. Going through the line would have improved his time by 0.04 at best. However, had he also had a faster start, he could have also improved his time by an additional 0.05. Add tailwind, and that could have helped by another 0.08 maybe. [[User:Mipchunk|Mipchunk]] ([[User talk:Mipchunk|talk]]) 08:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
+== Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2024 ==
-:: If you still think that "walking" a world record without doping is possible then you are an idiot. If he wouldn't slow down then his time would be under 9.5 sec.  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.131.243.189|82.131.243.189]] ([[User talk:82.131.243.189|talk]]) 08:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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-: Definitely doping.  Look at the Ben Johnson case.  Since when did human performance increase so much?
+Quincy Wilson has now pushed usain to no.7 on the all time youth bests 400 meter dash with a time of 44.2 recognized by <ref> https://worldathletics.org/athletes/united-states/quincy-wilson-15025343 </ref> [[Special:Contributions/2600:1007:A111:748:F477:FEAE:84BE:53F3|2600:1007:A111:748:F477:FEAE:84BE:53F3]] ([[User talk:2600:1007:A111:748:F477:FEAE:84BE:53F3|talk]]) 01:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
+:I'm not sure how to read that source. Do you have one that mentions Bolt? [[User:McYeee|McYeee]] ([[User talk:McYeee|talk]]) 05:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
-== the 9.72 was already a WR, notify it! ==
+:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The way you are attempting to use the source looks like [[WP:OR]]. We need a source explicitly stating that Bolt is ranked #7. [[User:Left guide|Left guide]] ([[User talk:Left guide|talk]]) 21:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
+::Is [https://worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/400-metres/all/men/u18?regionType=world&timing=electronic&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true&firstDay=1899-12-31&lastDay=2024-08-19&maxResultsByCountry=all&eventId=10229631&ageCategory=u18 this] the right event? It lists him at #10. [[User:McYeee|McYeee]] ([[User talk:McYeee|talk]]) 23:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
+{{reflist-talk}}
-. [[Special:Contributions/81.184.71.111|81.184.71.111]] ([[User talk:81.184.71.111|talk]]) 23:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
-==Page preotection==
-Is there an issue here? BLP notice board or something else? I read above but if not, please unprotect, thank you.  --[[Special:Contributions/70.181.45.138|70.181.45.138]] ([[User talk:70.181.45.138|talk]]) 00:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
-:Should it read boasted or coasted in the last section. I just got home and haven't seen the race yet. Is this the same guy that basically trotted the last 20 yards looking all around in the semi finals yesterday and blew everybody away? Thank you, --[[Special:Contributions/70.181.45.138|70.181.45.138]] ([[User talk:70.181.45.138|talk]]) 00:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
-He boasted, he admitted it, its amazing he ran a 9.69, the fact of the matter is he held his hands out in celebration. [[User:JakeH07|JakeH07]] ([[User talk:JakeH07|talk]]) 04:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)JakeH07
-He wouldve shaved a bit more of the world record if he wasnt such a great big show-off :P [[Special:Contributions/77.96.48.193|77.96.48.193]] ([[User talk:77.96.48.193|talk]]) 11:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
-== Curious ==
-Watching the event (finally) on American TV just now, I noticed that the time was 9:68, according to the TV, although all the other sources say 9:69.  Was this an error by NBC, or an error somewhere else?  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 03:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
-:The time was adjusted after the finish to 9.69, it happens a lot in this race. [[User:JakeH07|JakeH07]] ([[User talk:JakeH07|talk]]) 04:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC)JakeH07
-== Maroon ==
-The [[Maroon (people)|Maroons]] formerly lived in Trelawny; is Bolt of Maroon heritage? [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 03:45, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
-== Rewrite ==
-I've overhauled the article as it may as well be a quality article given the amount of people reading it. I have written/rewritten all the info from early life to change to 100 metres. Can anyone expand the lead and rewrite the 100 metres section too? [[User:Sillyfolkboy|Sillyfolkboy]] ([[User talk:Sillyfolkboy|talk]]) 05:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
-:Nice job. Perhaps I'll work on it if I have time. One thing we should try to do is really control the amount of change that people will inevitably try to force onto this article. While some of these changes will be beneficial, in general, especially with articles about people like Usain Bolt, inexperienced editors may insert random embellishments and weasel words that decrease the overall quality of the article. [[User:Mipchunk|Mipchunk]] ([[User talk:Mipchunk|talk]]) 08:29, 17 August 2008 (UTC)