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==Only tangentially related to 'state monopoly capital'== |
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This page currently appears as part of the "state monopoly capital theory". The [[State monopoly capital]] page states the concept arose from Marxist theory by Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky, the last of whom died in 1953. The originators of the idea of the principal-agent problem, according to this page are [[Stephen Ross (economist)]], Barry Mitnick, [[Michael C. Jensen]], and William Meckling, writing in the 1970s. These are American corporate finance academics. Ross has awards from Morgan Stanley and Deutsche Bank. These are nor Marxists, and the principal-agent problem is not a Marxist theory. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.154.149.218|81.154.149.218]] ([[User talk:81.154.149.218#top|talk]]) 09:13, 22 January 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Adding to the concerns raised in this reply, no connection with "state monopoly" is made anywhere in the article, either. Thus it seems like a stretch to try and connect it to "state monopoly." [[Special:Contributions/159.121.206.8|159.121.206.8]] ([[User talk:159.121.206.8|talk]]) 18:18, 14 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:I agree that placement of the article as part of "State monopoly capital theory" makes no sense. Indeed, although an article on "principal-agent problem" is appropriate (there is also an article on "agency cost," for example), the major article should be on the actual core approach, the "theory of agency." Other corrections, which I would like to make: Mitnick is not a corporate finance academic; he was trained in political science but works on organization theory and business-society relationships in a business school. His work on agency was not corporate finance; it was a general theory of agent-principal relationships in society. There is no dispute on who originated agency theory; the article is incorrect, and one of the sources cited, Eisenhardt (1989), although insightful on many points, is simply incorrect in its presentation on the origin. Agency theory was originated by Mitnick (institutional/organizational) and by Ross (economic), independently (see Ross, 1973, 1974; Mitnick, 1973, 1974, 1975). The works cited support this. It is also important to cite Berhold (1971), who used agency terms but his article was in the sharecropping/incentive contracting literatures in that the problem was how to share profit as incentive in order to "motivate the appropriate decision... relating monetary payments ... to a characteristic of the agent's performance." (p. 461). The nature, dimensions, and dynamics of an actual agency relationship and the need for and means by which a descriptive theory of agency may be constructed are missing from his analysis. The fact that Berhold used agency terms was not unique; scholars had earlier used such terms, including Cooper in accounting, Arrow in economics, Downs in political economy, and Pitkin in political philosophy. The key aspect was whether an actual, explicit descriptive theory of agency relationships and behaviors was proposed and begun. Despite authoring the most influential work on agency theory, Jensen and Meckling (1976) never claimed to originate agency theory (see their footnote 7); they originated an agency approach to the theory of the firm. The "ice cream cone" problem mentioned in the article, which was told by Ross to Mitnick, was meant as a humorous illustration of a critical issue as seen by Ross, not some grand explanation of Ross's approach, though it expressed his frustration at fundamental limitations of modeling within the assumptions he used. It looks out of place as an attempt at explanation. The following additional sources should be cited regarding the origin of agency theory: |
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RAMON CASADESUS-MASANELL |
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:Berhold, M. 1971. A theory of linear profit-sharing incentives. Quarterly Journal of Economics, 85: 460–482. |
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DANIEL F. SPULBER |
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:Mitnick, B. M. 1973. Fiduciary rationality and public policy: The theory of agency and some consequences. Annual Meeting of the American Political Science Association, New Orleans, LA. In Proceedings of the American Political Science Association, 1973, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract+1020859 or [https://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.1020859 http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.1020859] |
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:Mitnick, B. M. 1974. The theory of agency: The concept of fiduciary rationality and some consequences. (Unpublished doctoral dissertation). Department of Political Science, University of Pennsylvania, PA. ProQuest Dissertations Publishing, 1974. 7422881. |
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:Mitnick, B. M. 1975. The theory of agency: The policing “paradox” and regulatory behavior. Public Choice, 24: 27–42. Available at SSRN: <nowiki>https://ssrn.com/</nowiki> abstract=1021143 [First non-proceedings article in the social science literature proposing and extending agency theory]. |
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:Mitnick, B. M. 2019, 2006. Origin of the theory of agency: An account by one of the theory’s originators. Retrieved from <nowiki>https://ssrn.com/abstract=1020378</nowiki> |
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:Mitnick, B. M. 2021. Guidepost: The theory of agency redux. Academy of Management Discoveries, 7(2):171-179. |
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:Ross, S. A. 1973. The economic theory of agency: The principal’s problem. American Economic Review, 62: 134–139. |
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:Ross, S. A. 1974. On the economic theory of agency and the principle of similarity. In M. Balch, D. McFadden, & S. Wu (Eds.), Essays on economic behavior under uncertainty: 215–237. New York, NY: Elsevier. [[User:Agencyedit|Agencyedit]] ([[User talk:Agencyedit|talk]]) 17:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Overly elaborate examples of PA problems == |
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Southern California Interdisciplinary Law Journal |
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Volume 15, Number 1, Fall 2005 |
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Does the page really need very elaborate and detailed (paragraphs in plural) examples of PA problems across all kinds of relationships? While specific examples of PA problems across different issue areas is helpful to readers, I feel the article is borderline-unreadable in its current form with all the highly repetitious and redundant details on how basically the same dynamics manifest across issue areas. [[User:Thenightaway|Thenightaway]] ([[User talk:Thenightaway|talk]]) 18:42, 18 April 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2023 == |
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Perhaps the earliest version of the principal-agent model was given by |
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I would like to ass a small section under the Subjective heading regarding one of the risks of using it to pay employees. |
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Marvin Berhold, who anticipated many of the major theoretical results in |
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agency theory. He also incorporated earlier work on wage incentive |
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systems and labor unions. In Berhold’s framework, a principal designs |
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incentives to motivate an agent to make an “appropriate decision.” He |
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restricts his attention to linear profit-sharing incentives composed of a fixed |
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reward and sharing ratio. Berhold derives the contract that maximizes the |
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principal’s profit such that the agent will accept the contract and the agent |
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will make a decision based on the contract. Assuming that both the |
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principal and the agent are risk averse, Berhold identifies the interaction |
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between risk-sharing and performance incentives for the agent. |
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solution the pricipal-agent problem |
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[[Special:Contributions/67.33.138.42|67.33.138.42]] ([[User talk:67.33.138.42|talk]]) 16:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC) |
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I wonder why Jensen and Meckling are not presented in the article. |
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Employers may also have personal bias when subjectively analysing employee performance. Whether deliberate or not an employers relationship can alter their perception of how an employee is performing subjectively. An employee with a poor relationship with their supervisor may be continually under-rated by the supervisor in performance-reviews. This bias may also present itself in the form of discrimination of minority groups as supervisors may view their work as ‘lower quality’ because of who they are and not what they do. |
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[[User:Galileo Galilei|Galileo Galilei]] 17:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC): I think this article should give a general overview of the Principal / Agent problem and other articles would more deeply explain different subsections. There is a whole branch of finance devoted to this problem (corporate governance) and I'm sure other scientific area's also have lots and lots of information and theory regarding this subject. To mee it seems that this article doesn't offer any finance related theory at all... |
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My source: Lee, Audrey J. "Unconscious Bias Theory in Employment Discrimination Litigation." Harvard Civil Rights-Civil Liberties Law Review, vol. 40, no. 2, Summer 2005, pp. 481-504. HeinOnline, https://heinonline-org.ezproxy.library.uq.edu.au/HOL/P?h=hein.journals/hcrcl40&i=487. [[User:LeeV101|LeeV101]] ([[User talk:LeeV101|talk]]) 23:55, 23 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:AnnaMankad|AnnaMankad]] ([[User talk:AnnaMankad|talk]]) 06:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Expert needed (and citation style) == |
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This article needs more work ( unfortunately I dont know enough to do it myself). It also seems odd there are no mentions of coase, mirrlees and vickery .... who is this candice pendergeist bloke? should I have heard of him? (im not a microeconomist but I would have thought his name would ring a bell if he is a seminal as this article implicitly suggests) cheers for any insights- derryp |
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There are a lot of [[WP:PAREN|parenthetical]] citations throughout the text with no corresponding references section. It will likely take somebody with extensive knowledge of the published literature to find the proper article cites. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 04:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== "Hiddens" == |
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I think that the various hidden problems should be added to also decribe sources of problems in PA-relations. |
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hat about principal-agent problems in relation to Healthcare Economics with third party payers? |
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== PA problem in energy efficiency == |
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Dear economists (which I am not), |
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I work in environmental/energy policy and was frustrated that no term existed to describe the ubiquitous economic problem when the person investing in energy savings is not the person benefiting from them, and thus the investment is not made. I was then more frustrated to find out that in fact a term does exist and is used: the principal-agent problem - but that this term has an alternate traditional description in economics, which does not match the landlord tenant problem. |
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Anyway, I wrote a section describing the use of the term as it stands. Let me know what you think! |
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[[User:Jujubeberry|Jujubeberry]] 18:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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It seems to me that there is an information component: The buyers choose the landlord that will supply them the house based on information about the residential service he will be providing, but an important detail, the cost of energy over the year, is generally not included in the transaction. This is because of the quality of information available: To judge efficiency you must know both the energy input and the human-usable output, such as the temperature profile over the year. So this surely is a straight forward principle-agent problem, but where the agent is responsible for his own monitoring, as he would be the one who decided whether there were thermostats, and where they went. [[User:81.103.167.149|81.103.167.149]] 04:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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There can be an information component to the landlord-tenant problem, but there does not have to be. Even if both parties are fully informed of the performance of the building, there is still no incentive for the landlord to make an efficiency investment, since the benefit would go to the tenant. This is considered a market barrier if the efficiency investment would be globally cost-effective. And I don't think that the tenant would argue much with the landlord based on the energy performance of the building, even if they had all the other information: other criteria are usually much more important, such as location, size, rent. So to me, and to most energy folk, the principal-agent problem is an imbalance in investment and benefits rather than an information issue. The IEA refers to these situations as "split-incentives" and notes in the policy recommendations that information or awareness campaigns are not sufficient to address the problem, which instead requires regulatory or contractual structure modifications. |
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[[User:Jujubeberry|Jujubeberry]] ([[User talk:Jujubeberry|talk]]) 13:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC) |
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== Direction == |
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I am a little perplexed as to the direction this article has taken. The Principal-Agent Problem has vastly been studied in economics and appears to me to be looked at differently. For example, there is a far greater amount of modelling where signalling and competitive screening are involved and I didn't see any of that mentioned here (see Jen-Jacques Laffont & David Martimort) [[User:Canking|Canking]] 16:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== References == |
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I would question the validity of this reference |
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Justin Hawkins, David Blaine, Daniel Nielson, and Tommy Tiernan, 2006. Delegation and Agency in Internaitonal Organizations. Cambridge University Press. |
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I would actually question the existence of this reference <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.100.96.204|89.100.96.204]] ([[User talk:89.100.96.204|talk]]) 14:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Is this not a theory developed by Milgram? -TDF- <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.25.3.129|82.25.3.129]] ([[User talk:82.25.3.129|talk]]) 23:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Reference structure== |
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This article would be easier to read if references were structured as shown [[Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners|here]] |
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Only tangentially related to 'state monopoly capital'
[edit]This page currently appears as part of the "state monopoly capital theory". The State monopoly capital page states the concept arose from Marxist theory by Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky, the last of whom died in 1953. The originators of the idea of the principal-agent problem, according to this page are Stephen Ross (economist), Barry Mitnick, Michael C. Jensen, and William Meckling, writing in the 1970s. These are American corporate finance academics. Ross has awards from Morgan Stanley and Deutsche Bank. These are nor Marxists, and the principal-agent problem is not a Marxist theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.149.218 (talk) 09:13, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
- Adding to the concerns raised in this reply, no connection with "state monopoly" is made anywhere in the article, either. Thus it seems like a stretch to try and connect it to "state monopoly." 159.121.206.8 (talk) 18:18, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that placement of the article as part of "State monopoly capital theory" makes no sense. Indeed, although an article on "principal-agent problem" is appropriate (there is also an article on "agency cost," for example), the major article should be on the actual core approach, the "theory of agency." Other corrections, which I would like to make: Mitnick is not a corporate finance academic; he was trained in political science but works on organization theory and business-society relationships in a business school. His work on agency was not corporate finance; it was a general theory of agent-principal relationships in society. There is no dispute on who originated agency theory; the article is incorrect, and one of the sources cited, Eisenhardt (1989), although insightful on many points, is simply incorrect in its presentation on the origin. Agency theory was originated by Mitnick (institutional/organizational) and by Ross (economic), independently (see Ross, 1973, 1974; Mitnick, 1973, 1974, 1975). The works cited support this. It is also important to cite Berhold (1971), who used agency terms but his article was in the sharecropping/incentive contracting literatures in that the problem was how to share profit as incentive in order to "motivate the appropriate decision... relating monetary payments ... to a characteristic of the agent's performance." (p. 461). The nature, dimensions, and dynamics of an actual agency relationship and the need for and means by which a descriptive theory of agency may be constructed are missing from his analysis. The fact that Berhold used agency terms was not unique; scholars had earlier used such terms, including Cooper in accounting, Arrow in economics, Downs in political economy, and Pitkin in political philosophy. The key aspect was whether an actual, explicit descriptive theory of agency relationships and behaviors was proposed and begun. Despite authoring the most influential work on agency theory, Jensen and Meckling (1976) never claimed to originate agency theory (see their footnote 7); they originated an agency approach to the theory of the firm. The "ice cream cone" problem mentioned in the article, which was told by Ross to Mitnick, was meant as a humorous illustration of a critical issue as seen by Ross, not some grand explanation of Ross's approach, though it expressed his frustration at fundamental limitations of modeling within the assumptions he used. It looks out of place as an attempt at explanation. The following additional sources should be cited regarding the origin of agency theory:
- Berhold, M. 1971. A theory of linear profit-sharing incentives. Quarterly Journal of Economics, 85: 460–482.
- Mitnick, B. M. 1973. Fiduciary rationality and public policy: The theory of agency and some consequences. Annual Meeting of the American Political Science Association, New Orleans, LA. In Proceedings of the American Political Science Association, 1973, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract+1020859 or http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.1020859
- Mitnick, B. M. 1974. The theory of agency: The concept of fiduciary rationality and some consequences. (Unpublished doctoral dissertation). Department of Political Science, University of Pennsylvania, PA. ProQuest Dissertations Publishing, 1974. 7422881.
- Mitnick, B. M. 1975. The theory of agency: The policing “paradox” and regulatory behavior. Public Choice, 24: 27–42. Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/ abstract=1021143 [First non-proceedings article in the social science literature proposing and extending agency theory].
- Mitnick, B. M. 2019, 2006. Origin of the theory of agency: An account by one of the theory’s originators. Retrieved from https://ssrn.com/abstract=1020378
- Mitnick, B. M. 2021. Guidepost: The theory of agency redux. Academy of Management Discoveries, 7(2):171-179.
- Ross, S. A. 1973. The economic theory of agency: The principal’s problem. American Economic Review, 62: 134–139.
- Ross, S. A. 1974. On the economic theory of agency and the principle of similarity. In M. Balch, D. McFadden, & S. Wu (Eds.), Essays on economic behavior under uncertainty: 215–237. New York, NY: Elsevier. Agencyedit (talk) 17:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Overly elaborate examples of PA problems
[edit]Does the page really need very elaborate and detailed (paragraphs in plural) examples of PA problems across all kinds of relationships? While specific examples of PA problems across different issue areas is helpful to readers, I feel the article is borderline-unreadable in its current form with all the highly repetitious and redundant details on how basically the same dynamics manifest across issue areas. Thenightaway (talk) 18:42, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2023
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I would like to ass a small section under the Subjective heading regarding one of the risks of using it to pay employees.
Employers may also have personal bias when subjectively analysing employee performance. Whether deliberate or not an employers relationship can alter their perception of how an employee is performing subjectively. An employee with a poor relationship with their supervisor may be continually under-rated by the supervisor in performance-reviews. This bias may also present itself in the form of discrimination of minority groups as supervisors may view their work as ‘lower quality’ because of who they are and not what they do.
My source: Lee, Audrey J. "Unconscious Bias Theory in Employment Discrimination Litigation." Harvard Civil Rights-Civil Liberties Law Review, vol. 40, no. 2, Summer 2005, pp. 481-504. HeinOnline, https://heinonline-org.ezproxy.library.uq.edu.au/HOL/P?h=hein.journals/hcrcl40&i=487. LeeV101 (talk) 23:55, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. AnnaMankad (talk) 06:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Expert needed (and citation style)
[edit]There are a lot of parenthetical citations throughout the text with no corresponding references section. It will likely take somebody with extensive knowledge of the published literature to find the proper article cites. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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