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is this an ad? there should be articles on other similar websites like wesabe.com,or expensr.com and Geezeo.com to balance things out.98.195.185.125 15:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Was this post written by Aaron himself or the marketing department at Intuit? I guess they have to justify overpaying for this load of shite website. It is all "Look at us", "We did this!" "Are you not proud of us?" What a load of saleshack crap. I want the last three minutes of my life back.

I agree, there should be pages created for the other free personal finance type applications as well. --05runner (talk) 08:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a good idea. --Explodicle (T/C) 18:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and create them. :) --יהושועEric (talk) 21:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not feel this is an ad. I was already aware of the site, but being unfamiliar with it I came here looking for a NPOV explaination of it's reliability/security. I agree information on other sites should be added. Yoda of Borg (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added the NPOV tag to the discussion about the security of the site, as it definitely doesn't read as neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.110.142 (talk) 17:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not an ad... Dmarquard (talk) 01:57, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It could benefit from some expert info on the controversial "limited power of attorney" clause in the terms, section 9. I, like many others, don't speak legalese, and rely on wikipedia to give me the gist of things.

For purposes of this Agreement and solely to provide the Account Information to you as part of the Service, you grant Mint a limited power of attorney, and appoint Mint as your attorney-in-fact and agent, to access third party sites, retrieve and use your information with the full power and authority to do and perform each thing necessary in connection with such activities, as you could do in person. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT WHEN MINT IS ACCESSING AND RETRIEVING ACCOUNT INFORMATION FROM THIRD PARTY SITES, MINT IS ACTING AS YOUR AGENT, AND NOT AS THE AGENT OF OR ON BEHALF OF THE THIRD PARTY. You understand and agree that the Service is not sponsored or endorsed by any third parties accessible through the Service.

Is it possible (IANAL) that the limited power of attorney is what enables Mint/Intuit to retrieve your financial information? It's protected very strenously otherwise. I personally appreciated an update on the manual transaction feature, as they didn't used to have that. Information on competitors is a must. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.158.0.2 (talk) 20:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

I removed a paragraph with some pretty heavy POV about the security of the site, calling the creators "dishonest" and saying they "should" worry more about security. 74.92.148.250 (talk) 21:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section on "security concerns" is really low on information of any kind. It mentions the association with Yodlee as if it were a negative thing - to me, if anything, that's a big plus for it's reputation... I'll be tempted to remove the security concerns section alltogether if some citations don't show up. JoshDuffMan (talk) 23:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I understand and agree with the need for NPOV, but I don't feel security information should be removed. I came here looking for a NPOV explaination/discussion of any security/reputability issues there might be. If someone familiar with "Yodlee" or any of mint.com's security holes could put information here, I think there should be a security section. Yoda of Borg (talk) 19:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I came here looking for unbiased information about the site's security, too. Yodlee#Privacy looks relevant, and a little scary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.62.174 (talk) 15:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

also [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.62.174 (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The "Awards" section seemed like ad copy, I unified the formatting but I'm a little worried. At what point does a list of awards begin to violate WP:NOT? Greg Ravn (talk) 06:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion Needs

Several sections including awards, finances, and security concerns need expansion. Please make an effort to help this article get better. --יהושועEric (talk) 22:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Competitors

I removed the Competitors section. It was, and has been, a marketing tool for Mint's competitors, none of which have a "competitors" section of their own. It is inappropriate for Mint's entry. There is already a Comparison_of_personal_financial_management_online_tools. That is the appropriate location for a comprehensive list of competitors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Octavecat (talk • contribs) 05:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

There is a variety of criticism regarding this product and should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.148.31 (talk) 03:16, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not too impressed by the allegations of security issues, but I will offer the following criticism. It stems from Mint's site scraping strategy, and their ability or inability to respond to protocol changes on the sites they support. It is not unusual to suddenly lose access to one or more of your accounts, and the time it takes for Mint to update their software can be weeks or even months. This appears to point to a lack of a coherent strategy for responding to updates. Mint's logical long term strategy is to partner with the financial institutions in question, but whether this strategy will succeed is unclear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddssff (talk • contribs) 15:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems I can't offer sufficient evidence to prove that Mint lost a lot of historical data in July 2012. This forum post is not enough, even though the Rep admits they lost the data: https://satisfaction.mint.com/mint/topics/debt_trends_no_longer_includes_closed_accounts

If anyone can help me find "reliable" sources to cite, I would greatly appreciate it. Warzinski (talk) 20:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)Warzinski[reply]

As I explained on my talk page, there is only one post on that page flagged as coming from an "Official Rep", and that is the last post on the thread. The post you are referencing is not similarly flagged - it may be from someone official, but it is not flagged as such which makes it not-verifiable as official, and therefore does not meet Wikipedia requirements for being used as a source. Also, even if that post could be verifiably identified as coming from an official rep, all it would support is the one sentence that there was a loss of data related to balance history for some closed accounts; the claims of it raising questions and the claim of their not responding would still be original research. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lying Press Releases vs. Original Research

There is a sentence near the beginning of the article that reads as follows: "On April 19, 2010, Mint.com announced expansion in its reach to connect securely and to download transactions from virtually every bank, credit union and credit card account in the United States with online banking capability."

I recently tried Mint.com because Quicken just shut down their own online service. Mint.com could not connect like Quicken could with my accounts at the following:

Bank of America
Chase
Navy Federal Credit Union (the largest credit union in the country)
ING Direct

I know, I know this is all original research, blah blah blah. But the rather strong claim in the current article relies on dead link from MarketWatch.

MarketWatch does present some original articles and analysis but the vast majority of their content is reprinted press releases.

Now I'm not saying my original research should be in the article but neither should a presumed press release, in my opinion. What do others think about striking this sentence until Mint's connections with banks is established one way or the other by an independent source?RevelationDirect (talk) 03:25, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 04:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– Intuit purchased Mint.com in 2009 and has since rebranded it as just "Mint". There is no mention of "Mint.com" on its website, and Mint is now a mobile app as well as a website. Intuit's Mint is software, and so is the web analytics software, so Mint (software) is ambiguous. Intuit's offering is much more well known and widely used than the software described at Mint (software). The software described at Mint (software) has been deprecated; it is not maintained and is no longer offered for sale (since 2016). The article about the Intuit finance service has about 20–25 times as many recent page views as Mint (software). —BarrelProof (talk) 18:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support; nom sounds reasonable. I assume that Mint (software) would be turned into a disambiguation page once it's incoming links are handled? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 06:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- That sounds appropriate. —BarrelProof (talk) 14:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 == Potential for expansion ==
 is this an ad? there should be articles on other similar websites like wesabe.com,or expensr.com and Geezeo.com to balance things out.[[User:98.195.185.125|98.195.185.125]] 15:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
+Wow! Was this post written by Aaron himself or the marketing department at Intuit? I guess they have to justify overpaying for this load of shite website. It is all "Look at us", "We did this!" "Are you not proud of us?" What a load of saleshack crap. I want the last three minutes of my life back.
 :I agree, there should be pages created for the other free personal finance type applications as well. --[[User:05runner|05runner]] ([[User talk:05runner|talk]]) 08:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
-::[[WP:BOLD|Sounds like a good idea.]] --[[User:Explodicle|<span style="background:Silver;color:Black;letter-spacing:2pt">Explodicle</span>]] <font size="-2">([[User talk:Explodicle|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Explodicle|C]])</font> 18:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
+::[[WP:BOLD|Sounds like a good idea.]] --[[User:Explodicle|<span style="background:Silver;color:Black;letter-spacing:2pt">Explodicle</span>]] <span style="font-size:x-small;">([[User talk:Explodicle|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Explodicle|C]])</span> 18:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 :::Go ahead and create them. :) --[[User:Eric1985|יהושועEric]] ([[User talk:Eric1985|talk]]) 21:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
-Added the NPOV tag to the discussion about the security of the site, as it definitely doesn't read as neutral.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/32.97.110.142|32.97.110.142]] ([[User talk:32.97.110.142|talk]]) 17:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+::::I do not feel this is an ad.  I was already aware of the site, but being unfamiliar with it I came here looking for a NPOV explaination of it's reliability/security.  I agree information on other sites should be added. [[User:Yoda of Borg|Yoda of Borg]] ([[User talk:Yoda of Borg|talk]]) 19:28, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
+:::::Added the NPOV tag to the discussion about the security of the site, as it definitely doesn't read as neutral.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/32.97.110.142|32.97.110.142]] ([[User talk:32.97.110.142|talk]]) 17:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+::::::Definitely '''not''' an ad...  [[User:Dmarquard|Dmarquard]] ([[User talk:Dmarquard|talk]]) 01:57, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
+It could benefit from some expert info on the controversial "limited power of attorney" clause in the [http://www.mint.com/privacy/terms/ terms, section 9]. I, like many others, don't speak legalese, and rely on wikipedia to give me the gist of things.
+<blockquote>
+For purposes of this Agreement and solely to provide the Account Information to you as part of the Service, you grant Mint a limited power of attorney, and appoint Mint as your attorney-in-fact and agent, to access third party sites, retrieve and use your information with the full power and authority to do and perform each thing necessary in connection with such activities, as you could do in person. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT WHEN MINT IS ACCESSING AND RETRIEVING ACCOUNT INFORMATION FROM THIRD PARTY SITES, MINT IS ACTING AS YOUR AGENT, AND NOT AS THE AGENT OF OR ON BEHALF OF THE THIRD PARTY. You understand and agree that the Service is not sponsored or endorsed by any third parties accessible through the Service.
+</blockquote>
+:: Is it possible (IANAL) that the limited power of attorney is what enables Mint/Intuit to retrieve your financial information? It's protected very strenously otherwise. I personally appreciated an update on the manual transaction feature, as they didn't used to have that. Information on competitors is a must.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.158.0.2|24.158.0.2]] ([[User talk:24.158.0.2|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 == NPOV ==
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 The section on "security concerns" is really low on information of any kind.  It mentions the association with Yodlee as if it were a negative thing - to me, if anything, that's a big plus for it's reputation... I'll be tempted to remove the security concerns section alltogether if some citations don't show up. [[User:JoshDuffMan|JoshDuffMan]] ([[User talk:JoshDuffMan|talk]]) 23:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
+I understand and agree with the need for NPOV, but I don't feel security information should be removed.  I came here looking for a NPOV explaination/discussion of any security/reputability issues there might be.  If someone familiar with "Yodlee" or any of mint.com's security holes could put information here, I think there should be a security section. [[User:Yoda of Borg|Yoda of Borg]] ([[User talk:Yoda of Borg|talk]]) 19:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
+I came here looking for unbiased information about the site's security, too.  [[Yodlee#Privacy]] looks relevant, and a little scary.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.167.62.174|71.167.62.174]] ([[User talk:71.167.62.174|talk]]) 15:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+also [http://forums.mint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5]  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.167.62.174|71.167.62.174]] ([[User talk:71.167.62.174|talk]]) 16:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+The "Awards" section seemed like ad copy, I unified the formatting but I'm a little worried. At what point does a list of awards begin to violate [[WP:NOT]]? [[User:Sgravn|Greg Ravn]] ([[User talk:Sgravn|talk]]) 06:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 == Expansion Needs ==
 Several sections including awards, finances, and security concerns need expansion.  Please make an effort to help this article get better. --[[User:Eric1985|יהושועEric]] ([[User talk:Eric1985|talk]]) 22:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
+== Competitors ==
+I removed the Competitors section.  It was, and has been, a marketing tool for Mint's competitors, none of which have a "competitors" section of their own.  It is inappropriate for Mint's entry.  There is already a [[Comparison_of_personal_financial_management_online_tools]].  That is the appropriate location for a comprehensive list of competitors.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Octavecat|Octavecat]] ([[User talk:Octavecat|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Octavecat|contribs]]) 05:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== Criticism ==
+There is a variety of criticism regarding this product and should be included.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.21.148.31|76.21.148.31]] ([[User talk:76.21.148.31|talk]]) 03:16, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+I'm not too impressed by the allegations of security issues, but I will offer the following criticism.  It stems from Mint's site scraping strategy, and their ability or inability to respond to protocol changes on the sites they support.  It is not unusual to suddenly lose access to one or more of your accounts, and the time it takes for Mint to update their software can be weeks or even months.  This appears to point to a lack of a coherent strategy for responding to updates.  Mint's logical long term strategy is to partner with the financial institutions in question, but whether this strategy will succeed is unclear.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ddssff|Ddssff]] ([[User talk:Ddssff|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ddssff|contribs]]) 15:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:It seems I can't offer sufficient evidence to prove that Mint lost a lot of historical data in July 2012.  This forum post is not enough, even though the Rep admits they lost the data:  https://satisfaction.mint.com/mint/topics/debt_trends_no_longer_includes_closed_accounts
+:If anyone can help me find "reliable" sources to cite, I would greatly appreciate it. [[User:Warzinski|Warzinski]] ([[User talk:Warzinski|talk]]) 20:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)Warzinski
+::As I explained on my talk page, there is only one post on that page flagged as coming from an "Official Rep", and that is the last post on the thread. The post you are referencing is not similarly flagged - it may be from someone official, but it is not flagged as such which makes it not-verifiable as official, and therefore does not meet Wikipedia requirements for being used as a source. Also, even if that post could be verifiably identified as coming from an official rep, all it would support is the one sentence that there was a loss of data related to balance history for some closed accounts; the claims of it raising questions and the claim of their not responding would still be original research. --- [[User:Barek|Barek]] <small>([[User talk:Barek|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Barek|contribs]])</small> - 20:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
+== Lying Press Releases vs. Original Research ==
+There is a sentence near the beginning of the article that reads as follows:
+"On April 19, 2010, Mint.com announced expansion in its reach to connect securely and to download transactions from virtually every bank, credit union and credit card account in the United States with [[online banking]] capability."
+I recently tried Mint.com because Quicken just shut down their own online service.  Mint.com could not connect like Quicken could with my accounts at the following:
+* Bank of America
+* Chase
+* Navy Federal Credit Union (the largest credit union in the country)
+* ING Direct
+I know, I know this is all original research, blah blah blah.  But the rather strong claim in the current article relies on [http://www.marketwatch.com/story/story/rescue?SourceUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marketwatch.com%2Fstory%2Fget-the-full-financial-picture-mintcom-works-with-nearly-all-us-banks-2010-04-19%3Freflink%3DMW_news_stmp|this dead link] from [[MarketWatch]].
+MarketWatch does present some original articles and analysis but the vast majority of their content is reprinted press releases.
+Now I'm not saying my original research should be in the article but neither should a presumed press release, in my opinion.  What do others think about striking this sentence until Mint's connections with banks is established one way or the other by an independent source?[[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 03:25, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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+– [[Intuit]] purchased [[Mint.com]] in 2009 and has since rebranded it as just "Mint". There is no mention of "Mint.com" on its website, and Mint is now a mobile app as well as a website. Intuit's Mint is software, and so is the web analytics software, so {{-r|Mint (software)}} is ambiguous. Intuit's offering is much more well known and widely used than the software described at {{-r|Mint (software)}}. The software described at {{-r|Mint (software)}} has been deprecated; it is not maintained and is no longer offered for sale (since 2016). The article about the Intuit finance service has about 20–25 times as many recent page views as {{-r|Mint (software)}}. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 18:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
+*'''Support'''; nom sounds reasonable. I assume that [[Mint (software)]] would be turned into a disambiguation page once it's incoming links are handled? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 06:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
+**That sounds appropriate. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 14:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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