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Greetings, welcome to my talk page. '''Please leave me new messages at the bottom of the page'''. I usually notice messages soon. If I think it is important to keep a thread together I will respond here; otherwise I may respond on your talk page. Or maybe both. A foolish hobgoblin little minds consistency.
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==Welcome==
Thanks for the kind words :) [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 08:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. Welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for your note at [[Wikipedia:New user log]].


I'm sure there are plenty of things you can contribute to here. You might want to check out [[List of classical music composers]], [[List of musical topics]], and [[Wikipedia:Requested articles/music]]. The last one, especially, has a lot of suggestions for articles that don't exist yet, but that someone would like to see.
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You should also feel free to drop me a question on my [[User Talk:Isomorphic|talk page]]. I'll answer if I'm here.
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:Hello, bot. I did not upload this image; I reverted vandalism to it. You need to inform the ''original uploader.'' That's the one with the earliest date. Thank you, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 13:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


Happy editing, [[User:Isomorphic|Isomorphic]] 18:23, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
==David Tombe requests unblock==
Antandrus, You told me that an unblock could be negotiated, providing that I would be willing to abide by the rules. The more that I read the ongoing edit war between Brews ohare and Fugal on centrifugal force, the more I realize that I never broke the rules to begin with and that there was a considerable amount of presumptuousness on the part of certain administrators that I was the one that was in the wrong.
Anyway, you have got the power yourself to unblock my account. I am not subject to a community ban and I am not subject to any decision by the arbitration committee. I have already made it clear that in view of the particular sensitivities surrounding the centrifugal force article that I would not edit on that page until a consensus has been reached.
I was not at all impressed by the kind of administrators that declined my perfectly reasonable unblock appeal and I don't intend to subject myself to that mechanism again.
I am merely requesting that you unblock my account in order to demonstrate that there are actually some reasonable administrators in the system.
You have my word for it that I will not let you down. If I do, then you can block me again and we will all know that it will be final. David Tombe [[Special:Contributions/81.156.4.144|81.156.4.144]] ([[User talk:81.156.4.144|talk]]) 20:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


== June music ==
:Having looked through the history, and the several noticeboard threads about you, I agree that you are not subject to either a community ban or arbcom saction (there was no consensus on the community ban discussion on the noticeboard [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive458#David_Tombe|here]]). An admin (Mr.Z-man) indefinitely blocked you for evading a 3-month consensus block by using sockpuppets. I want community buy-in for any unblock, though, and you could get that pretty easily by posting on your talk page and taking Jayron's advice there ("leave a new unblock request where you can assure admins that you both understand why you were blocked, and where you can make assurances that you will stop the behaviors that led to you prior block, or will alter the way in which you operate within Wikipedia that will make it unlikely for you to find yourself in situations that led to the first block") -- it's good advice. From what I've seen, you know what you are talking about on subjects related to physics, but don't seem to get that you have any part in what happened to you -- it's all someone else's fault. Is that a fair characterisation? [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 15:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
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Ukrainian peace music is [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1092142957 "on" today], with the conductor! - Pentecost (on last Sunday and Monday in Germany) brought a rich harvest of great music in two church services (one with me singing in choir) and two concerts with my brother in the orchestra, - four pictures I took besides the symphonic one. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


:Ahhh. Thank you for that. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Antandrus, Thanks once again for your reply. I do know the reason why I was blocked. I was arguing against a consensus on two pages. I had done alot of research into centrifugal force and I saw a way of tidying up the article. But there was a group who ganged up against me and made sure that I didn't get a single edit to remain. The rights and wrongs of the issue can only be decided when an impartial expert examines the details of the arguments. Unfortunately for me, some administrators automatically assumed that I was wrong solely on the grounds that I was fighting a lone battle. They assumed that Brews was right. But now that Fugal is arguing against Brews, those administrators have been very quiet.
:: Thank you for improving articles in June! My song collection is especially rich, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1094115079 look], and the hall where I first heard [[Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau|DFD]], [[Pierre Boulez]] and [[Murray Perahia]]. Do you find the baby deer in the meadow (last row)? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:21, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
The original basis for blocking me has gone. And besides that, I have made it clear that I don't want another edit war. I want an opportunity to use some persuasion on the talk pages.
:: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1095343779 today]: a song about getting through the night, after plenty of music over the weekend --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I will not be putting in another unblock request through the normal channels because it is more than clear that there is no end of administrators who are unfamiliar with the case history, and who not only ignore the rules and regulations regarding the purpose of blocks, but who also take great delight in homing in on irrelevencies. They know that no damage will be done. The block has served its purpose and their insistence on declining the unblock request is merely showing themselves up for what they are.
Even my arch opponent PeR spoke up for me when Sandstein declined the unblock request. And Jayron must have known fine well that any so-called sockpuppetry was only for the purpose of communicating with Fugal. They need to get a sense of proportion.
Let's examine a situation where you and I came head to head on Mozart. I do believe that you put in 'more than 600'. That was exactly what I was going to do to end the argument, but you did it first. Originally I noticed that it said 600. I knew that Kochel went to 626, but I also knew that Kochel is not accurate and that there is also K.Anhang. Nevertheless, I switched the 600 to 626. Somebody immediately switched it back to 600 again without discussing the matter. I switched it back to 626 again and pointed out that K goes up to 626. When the edit war on that issue escalated, I was just about to put in something like 'in excess of 600', but you beat me to it.
As for the nationality issue, didn't Blehfu suggest to me that I put a special section in about it? And didn't I do just that and get blocked for 3 months. And Acroterion claimed that it was the straw that broke the camel's back in relation to the centrifugal force argument. Do you think that was a reasonable action bearing in mind that I had been trying to get Acroterion to examine why Itub and FyzixFigher kept reverting my edits on centrifugal force? The point seemed to be that Acroterion considered consensus to outweigh all other considerations and he seemed to get bitter against me when I argued that he should be looking into the rights and wrongs of the issues. The rules make it clear that consensus is not always the overriding issue.
But that aside, it should be sufficient that I have said that I will ignore the Mozart page and that I will not have another edit war on the main centrifugal force page.
If you can't unblock my account, then nobody can. David Tombe [[Special:Contributions/86.148.36.227|86.148.36.227]] ([[User talk:86.148.36.227|talk]]) 20:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


== Ukrainian Melody ==
:I have to admit that in my almost five years here, and almost four as an admin, that this has been the most difficult whether-or-not-to-unblock I've ever had to deal with. I'm persuaded of several things: 1) you genuinely want to help us build an encyclopedia, in good faith. A point. 2) You have trouble working in a collaborative environment, and see groups of editors who disagree with you as conspiring, rather than (as Occam's Razor might suggest) as possibly ''right''. Minus one point. You're persistent in wanting to be unblocked "officially", rather than gaming the system, making sockpuppets in a sneaky way, pretending to be someone else -- I appreciate the honesty. A point. This may make may a very unpopular person here, -- but what is the worst that can happen? that we have to block you again? it's no big deal -- look at the bigger picture, in the misery in the world as everyone's retirement savings turn into smoke and ash, and wars continue worldwide, -- this isn't big stuff. I think you can be unblocked. I'm going to do it. One final note: I am ''not'' doing this "in order to demonstrate that there are actually some reasonable administrators in the system" -- I'm really not that venal -- I'm doing it because I sense you have expertise to bring to our project, and ''expertise is the single thing we need more than any other'' in my largely disregarded opinion around here. ''Please make an attempt to get along with others and if groups disagree with you, consider the possibility that they are not a conspiracy to shut you up''. Respectfully, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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today: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1096565752 violin solo] and you [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4dA7udrP8U can listen] [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


yesterday I attended a unique concert - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1097271235 the 18th Thomaskantor after Bach conducting] - and with some good luck caught [[:File:Andreas Reize, Thomanerchor, Lutherkiche, Wiesbaden RFM.jpg|him happy afterwards]]! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:21, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
::The cause of the financial collapse seems to have been people making risky decisions when they don't know what they are really doing, but where they know that they won't be the ones dealing with the issues if it does go badly. The parallels with your unblocking of somebody who has been blocked about a dozen times is really rather striking. Based on my experience, and others experience here, I'm completely certain that your judgement of David Tombes 'expertise' is completely at odds with his true knowledge. His combination of only believing a small subset of the references (which he doesn't seem to entirely grasp anyway), a complete inability to understand or respond reasonbably to reasonable arguments by a fairly large set of intelligent people, and a certain degree of paranoia. This combination is disastrous in the wikipedia.- ([[User:Wolfkeeper|User]]) '''Wolfkeeper''' ([[User_talk:Wolfkeeper|Talk]]) 01:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


:Thank you Gerda - most excellent!
Antandrus, thanks very much for making that decision. I don't think that you will regeret it. [[User:David Tombe|David Tombe]] ([[User talk:David Tombe|talk]]) 11:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Some day there will be no more war - some day - but alas, Mars shines brightly in the sky, maybe a little too much so. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 20:40, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
:: Who told you that the encore was an arrangement of Bach's Air with text Dona nobis pacem? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:59, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


:::Listening to ''[[Dialogues of the Carmelites]]'' while prepping dinner for family. Have no idea why I'm listening to music about resistance to tyranny, nope, no idea, no idea, must be a coincidence. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
==Thank you!==
I haven't been that active here lately, so I only just recently noticed you reverted some vandalism to my user page. Many thanks. Have a wonderful day! - [[User:Ageekgal|Ageekgal]] ([[User talk:Ageekgal|talk]]) 12:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::: I saw that last year, remember? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:01, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
::::: Yup. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:03, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


... and another outstanding concert on 14 July: [[Voces8]], pictured - I have [[Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56|a FAC open]], in case of interest --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:05, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
:You're welcome ... I like this to be a friendly place. Often when I look at recent changes, all I do is revert vandals in user space (bots and Huggle-armed patrollers get everything else). [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:I love Voces8, and have been listening to them a lot recently. They approach... dare I say... perfection. Especially in the English rep. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
:: agree! - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1101015510 today]: birthday music for a friend, after hiking in the Swiss Alps and a funeral with flowers on a bench and a Rilke poem --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
:::Ah, good to see you around! :) I look forward to a little mountain hiking myself, if there is a gap in the fires. But the coast is nice, and not so smoky. Busy being a composer these days. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:00, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


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:You're also welcome -- keep up the great work! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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[[File:Wikipedia Administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Administrator changes'''
==Another case of Sockpuppetry==
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:PermaLink/1090892500#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#June 2022|AA]] • [[Special:PermaLink/1090892500#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#June 2022|Gwalla]] • [[Special:PermaLink/1091340059#Desysop request (Ioeth)|Ioeth]] • [[Special:PermaLink/1090892500#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#June 2022|Laurascudder]] • [[Special:PermaLink/1090942226#Admin Account|Moriori]] ([[Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/2022#Moriori|deceased]]) • [[Special:PermaLink/1090892500#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#June 2022|Nat]] • [[Special:PermaLink/1090892500#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2022#June 2022|Rfl]]
Hi, while checking my watchlist, i came across three incidents of mass deletion from Muslim apostate related articles such as [[Ramzi Yousef]], [[List of people who converted to Christianity]] and [[List of former Muslims]]. The vandalism was done by three separate accounts. A user named [[User:FarhadS1N|FarhadS1N]] deleted the entire "Conversion to Christianity" section in the Ramzi Yousef article, wven though it was sourced with credible and reliable newspapers such as NY times, CBS news, wtc. Another user [[User:JMDU|JMDU]] removed Ramzi Yousef's picture and deleted his entry from the "List of people who converted to Christianity". Yet, another user [[Iman19|Iman19]] did the same in the "List of former Muslims" article. These striking similarities raised my suspiscion that they were operated by the same user.
:[[File:Pictogram voting rename.png|20px|alt=renamed|Renamed]] {{noping|Drilnoth}} → {{noping|AFigureOfBlue}}


[[File:Wikipedia bureaucrat.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Bureaucrat changes'''
Upon close checking of their contributions, i found that their edits were done within minutes of each other. For instance, [[Special:Contributions/FarhadS1N|FarhadS1N's was on 8:16]], [[Special:Contributions/Iman19|Iman19's was on 8:20]] and [[Special:Contributions/JMDU|JMDU's was on 8:22]]. Also, they have each made only one edit which was to the aforementioned articles.
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/Lee Vilenski|Lee Vilenski]]


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Faced with these facts, i can say with the utmost certainty that they are in fact sockpuppets. As such, i request you to revert their edits, block these accounts indefinitely. I also suspect that these sockpuppets were created by a user who already has a normal account in wikipedia. Therefore, i also request to perform a usercheck and trace any other accounts that were created using this IP address. [[User:Joyson Noel|Joyson Noel]] ([[User talk:Joyson Noel|talk]]) 09:24, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


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May i know the reason as to why you havent even replied back. These accounts are obviously sockpuppets. However, you haven't blocked them or even reverted their vandalism edits, which i took the trouble to do. If your not interested, or somwhow disagree with me, then the least you could do is at least reply back. I'm looking forward to hearing from you. [[User:Joyson Noel|Joyson Noel]] ([[User talk:Joyson Noel|talk]]) 11:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


[[File:Wikipedia Interface administrator.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Interface administrator changes'''
:Haven't looked at it yet. I haven't had a huge amount of time for Wikipedia this week, due to real life events, and we don't get paid for this, you know. If you need immediate action, please file a report at [[WP:SSP]], [[WP:RFCU]], or on one of the noticeboards -- [[WP:ANI]] would probably be willing to help. There are more than 1500 admins, though I don't know how many are active. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 13:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg|20px|alt=added|Added]] [[Special:PermaLink/1093853516#Interface administrator permission request: Nihiltres|Nihiltres]]


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:I apologize if i have been rude to you. Sometimes, my temper just gets the best of me. Well, i am fully aware that you dont get paid for this, but it is common courtesy to at least reply back to a message from someone requesting help. If you were busy and not interested in the first place, then you should have let me know. But you simply ignored my message and didn't even bother replying. To make matters worse, this is an important issue over here. Put yourself in my place. Wouldn't you get irritated? Its not good to keep someone waiting for a response. Anyway, thanks for the advice. I will file a report. Regards, [[User:Joyson Noel|Joyson Noel]] ([[User talk:Joyson Noel|talk]]) 14:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
::The three users have only done a single edit. That they edit within a few minutes of each other is suspicious; they may be sockpuppets or meatpuppets; but in my opinion that's not enough to block. (I like to be ''really'' sure.) You've already reverted them and warned them; I think that's sufficient for now. If you think there is a sockmaster separate from these three -- not a farfetched idea by any stretch -- the only way to find out is to file a [[WP:RFCU|checkuser request]], as "normal" admins do not have that ability. Single-edit throwaway accounts are unfortunately commonplace, and on high-profile articles, such as Ramzi Yousef, you have to expect them. Often reverting and ignoring is the most effective tactic, unless they come back as a "team". Hope this helps, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
* <code>user_global_editcount</code> is a new variable that can be used in [[Special:AbuseFilter|abuse filters]] to avoid affecting globally active users. ({{phab|T130439}})


[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
::I have already filed a report in [[WP:ANI]]. However, its unlikely that anything will be done due to lack of any hard evidence. They haven't undid my reversions to their edits. So, i guess its better to take your advice and ignore them for the time being, unless they come back as a team. Thanks. [[User:Joyson Noel|Joyson Noel]] ([[User talk:Joyson Noel|talk]]) 15:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
* An arbitration case regarding [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct in deletion-related editing|conduct in deletion-related editing]] has been opened.


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== de Vitry image ==
Hello. I've read a number of your essays, and after some contemplation, have decided that it was quite imperitive that I establish a rapport with you. I did a bit of peeking around your userspace and contributions, and I've established that while we have realatively little in common based on interests and expertise, we do share a remarkably similar mindset in the regard of behavior on Wikipedia, especially in dealing with drama. I specifically refer to [[User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior|your essay on behavior]], and while I don't claim to have the same depth of understanding as you've accumulated in many years, I have found myself agreeing with the trends you have observed.


Do you know where [[:File:Philippe de Vitry.jpg]] is from? I vaguely recall either a conversation between you and I, or one I saw between yourself and someone else on a talk page somewhere discussing it. But alas, I cannot locate or recall the content of said conversation(s). '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 18:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
The main reason I chose to contact you is that I'm finding myself lately being drawn further into the non-encyclopedic workings of Wikipedia. I've long been an anti-vandalism fighter, but on a part-time basis: I revert on sight, but usually only see it on my watchlisted pages (I don't go looking for trouble). I'm slowly wading into the world of article assessment and review, which ought to be less political and dramatic. I've been asked to comment in a few discussions on the Admin's noticeboard, request for comment, and one ArbCom. I'm even penning an essay, which even as I do so, I can't help but dismiss as verbal self-indulgence. Ideally, I'd like you to decide if I need a [[Wikipedia:Whacking with a Wet Trout|slap with a wet trout]] or not, since I think that you would be a great judge. Am I getting in too deep? '''[[User:Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#006400;color:#fff;">bahamut0013</span>]][[User talk:Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#00FF00;color:#000">♠</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#00FF00;color:#000">♣</span>]]''' 16:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


:Hi [[User:Aza24|Aza]] -- wow. I do not remember that image at ''all'' and my skepticism light came on with a big flash-flash. It appears it was uploaded by someone now blocked for abusing multiple accounts -- and the face sure does not seem to be rendered in an early 14th-century style. Googling a bit I don't find either a reliable source for it, or any suggestion it is someone else either. Seems most copies on the internet came from us. I don't trust it. [[User:Mscuthbert|Myke]], are you still editing? do you recognize this image? [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 18:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
:Hey, thank you!
::Ah, you know, I think the thread I was remembering was that on [[Ockeghem]]'s page about his image ([[Talk:Johannes Ockeghem#Portrait?|see here]]). I have never come across the de Vitry image in any of the literature about him (though I have not exhaustively searched). In terms of likelihood, I can't say it would be impossible that an image of de Vitry exists in the first place, given the eminent status he had during his time. However, I would agree it doesn't seem obviously 14th-century—{{u|Johnbod}} may have some thoughts on that. A posthumous portrait is always possible as well, I suppose. I had exchanged some emails with Michael a few months ago about another WP question, so might email again if they don't see the ping. Going to ping {{u|Sparafucil}} and {{u|Srnec}} as well to see if they have any ideas. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 19:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
:I completely agree about the world of article assessment and review needing to be less political and dramatic. It's exactly those qualities that drive me from that zone, and I suspect it's the same with other people: I do Wikipedia for fun, and running that gauntlet, or enduring that hazing, is so far from being fun that I think you need a streak of masochism to enjoy it. Personally I prefer writing good articles that Google finds, rather than Good Articles that Wikipedia finds, if you know what I mean. But I have the greatest respect for people that work on FAC, FAR, GA, GAR, DYK, and make an effort to be apolitical and undramatic.
:::I would say it looks 15th or even early 16th century. Whoever it is, it looks like a [[donor portrait]] or supporter in an altarpiece, but done well after his death, and he was not a saint. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 21:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
:I looked (briefly) for the essay, but didn't find it. LOL. Let me know when it's ready! I love reading other people's meta-work, i.e. essays on Wikipedia and the people who work here.
::::Thank you -- rather confirms my hunch (just felt like a 15th-century rendering to me, but I'm not an expert). I'm pretty sure if there were authentic portraits of de Vitry we'd know. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
:We need more, not less people with calm, common sense, and life experience to work in places like the noticeboards. Anyone who has been to Iraq and back has more than enough perspective to know what is important and what isn't -- in my opinion, the single biggest problem, and driver of drama, is that the people who inhabit the noticeboards lack perspective. Everything is an unnecessary drama, and most everything argued over is insignificant -- even in Wikipedia's protozoan world.
:I see you've made the acquaintance of Tony the Marine: he's one of my favorite Wikipedians from way back, and an excellent source of good advice. Cheers! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 19:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Definitely not a real image, and not from the time. I have however downloaded a copy for future talks about frauds in the early Ars Nova. :-) -- [[User:Mscuthbert|Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert]] <small>[[User_talk:Mscuthbert|(talk)]]</small> 08:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


Excuse me for interrupting, but [[:File:Philippe de Vitry.jpg|that]] (poor scan, reflected, with a peculiar background) seems to bear more than a coincidental resemblance to [[:File:San Isidoro de Sevilla, del Maestro de la Colección Pacully (Museo Nacional de Escultura de Valladolid).jpg|this]], at the [[Museo Nacional de Escultura, Valladolid]], attributed to the {{ill|Master of the Pacully collection|es|Maestro de la Colección Pacully}}. [http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Main?idt=2068&inventary=CE0951/001&table=FMUS&museum=MNEV Catalogue link]. Hope that helps. [[User:Theramin|Theramin]] ([[User talk:Theramin|talk]]) 00:24, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
::I think I've made the essay readable enough now. I am by no means done with it, as I think it's still ramble-ly and a bit unfocused and incoherant. Suggestions (on the talk page please) would be more than welcome. I've even nabbed a shortcut: [[WP:CSIOR]].
:No need to excuse yourself - that's it! Thank you! Absolutely. So it's supposedly [[Isidore of Seville]]? I wouldn't be a bit surprised, given the history of the account that uploaded it. We need to get rid of this thing. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:29, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
::One other thing I got to thinking as my account nears its two year mark: things must have been much different for the first few years of the project. I feel a bit remorseful that I missed the explorative years, when everything was fresh and new. I feel like I missed out on a lot of great times, much like the exploration of the American west (perhaps a result of recently having watched [[Dances with Wolves]]?). While I certainly couldn't be a judge of whether the "good 'ol days" were better or not, I do feel like I missed out on a good thing. '''[[User:Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#006400;color:#fff;">bahamut0013</span>]][[User talk:Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#00FF00;color:#000">♠</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#00FF00;color:#000">♣</span>]]''' 22:53, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well spotted, or did you do a CIA-style image comparison search? 1480-ish anyway. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 02:21, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
:::No kidding. I'm impressed!
:::Now I feel like I've turned over a log and found something awful. There are other images by this same uploader that show, um, similarities, and there may be a ''lot'' of them. I'm not an admin on Commons. Uggggh. This particular de Vitry image has grown legs and spread all over the internet. Reminds me of how that "Giovanni Gabrieli" image (the one with the lute) similarly spread, and it's still out there.
:::Are any of my talk page stalkers admins on Commons? Can we speedy hoaxes there? [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
::::Yes, there are of course a ton of other wikis using it. I suppose to the medieval mind, there's no real problem as the idea of portraits needing to be likenesses was slow to arrive, though it had by the time this was done. It probably looks more like de Vitry than Isidore, if only we knew. In the Romanesque period, I forget which English king was having a row with a bishop, who wisely fled to Rome to complain to the pope. The king sent agents to intercept him, equipped with a wanted poster for identification, which sadly has not survived. They didn't find him. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 02:58, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::And of course, one cannot forget the whole Anne of Cleves debacle. Besides de Vitry and Gabrieli, I know of at least two other instances of similar issues with early music composers: that random man who randomly was decided by someone (?) to be 'Pachelbel', with absolutely no evidence ([https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-3twJz7U3QBUq8w5W-0qJzuQ-t500x500.jpg]), and that really [[:File:Pérotin photo.jpg|annoying image]] from the ''Cantigas'' which was used once by for album art in a Pérotin CD, and now has the internet brainwashed into thinking its actually him! (The file name even says "Pérotin"... should probably be changed...) – '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 03:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
You are welcome. Without giving away too many state secrets, it was nothing special - I just searched for similar images in a well-known internet search engine, and looked for some using different titles. A saint or a bishop or both seemed about right. [[User:Theramin|Theramin]] ([[User talk:Theramin|talk]]) 00:38, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


==You've got mail!==
:::Good work. I'm glad you addressed that topic; it's about time it got an essay of its own. That one should assume good faith before making an "original research" is a strong point (AGF applies to a lot of things; personally I think it's the heart and soul of "ignore all rules", since that is where the ''project'' assumes good faith of ''you''.) I do think we are overrun with original-research fundamentalists; it's not much of a stretch to go from that position to this one: "we can only write Wikipedia by collecting quotations from other works. Even stating a fact in your own words necessarily distorts it, therefore is original research!"
{{You've got mail|subject=|ts=06:32, 18 July 2022 (UTC)}}
:::The "good old days" never were all that good. Funny, I feel I missed out on the Golden Age of 2003, when requests for adminship was like two or three people saying, "sure ... looks cool ... make him an admin," when nothing needed to be cited inline (nor were there mechanisms for doing so), when [[Camp Pendleton]] looked like [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Marine_Corps_Base_Camp_Pendleton&oldid=1169510 this], when very few people had even ''heard'' of Wikipedia and it was pretty much wide open for newcomers with a pioneering spirit. On the other hand, I remember bloody and terrible edit wars over some of the stupidest things, and we didn't have 3RR when I joined the project. [[WP:LAME]] documents some of the stuff from that time.
--[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]])</small> 06:32, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
:::While it may seem sometimes that the encyclopedia is written, we still have lots more room for good essays. Cheers! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


== Josquin, for the 30th time ==
== Notice ==


Sorry I'm back here :) I'm pondering how to deal with sources calling Josquin both French and Franco-Flemish, and unsatisfied with just calling him the former since sources do not overwhelming call him French, but (afaics) slightly more often than not call him such. What would you think of "Josquin des Prez [...] was a composer of High Renaissance music, variously described as 'French' or 'Franco-Flemish'." ? '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 21:31, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
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:No worries - bring up the magnificent composer any time! - Yes, that is one particularly fraught area and I could write paragraphs and paragraphs on it. We love to impose (even without realizing it) modern ideas of "nationality", or worse "ethnicity" on these historical figures. I heartily approve of your "variously described as" line. It's true. I mean - it's true. He is variously described that way, in the literature, in encyclopedias, in edit wars. (How many languages do you think he actually spoke? I'm guessing quite a few.) 'Franco-Flemish' may be a dated term, but it describes that cultural blending-pot rather nicely. And he had the French connection, so to speak. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:53, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
== State vs. federal waters ==
::Now done, and fully sourced/explained by note 4 in the article. Glad you see eye to eye with me here—might have to do something similar with Du Fay at some point, but would need to dig into sources more for that! '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 01:49, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


== High activity on your talk page ==
Thanks for your assistance on the reference desk! Your answer was most enlightening. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 02:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


Hello, Antandrus. Although we have not communicated with each other before, your user pages have been on my watch list since the day I started editing the English Wikipedia. It is a pleasure to watch them - especially [[User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior|this page]]. And, you know, the interaction on your talk page has been very high in a few weeks, and I have requested permanent protection twice for your talk page. Now I just see your reasons and appreciate them.
:You're welcome! Happy to help. It's interesting stuff, and a hot issue in a lot of coastal states. Some of the largest speculative oil reserves in the U.S. are in that federal offshore zone, much of which hasn't even been completely explored. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


On the other hand, let's see [[Special:PermanentLink/1100407328|Amanda's talk page]]. She has created a page that can only be edited by IPs. Maybe a page like that will be fine for you.
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:Thanks Victor - you know, I was just thinking about that exact thing, i.e. setting up an IP page. There's really only one person who causes the problem (and this has gone on, with occasional breaks, since February 2006 - it only stops when he goes to jail - literally). It's hard to write about because he reads my page, and I don't want to give him ideas. He loves to vandalize my archives, probably thinking no one watches them, so I've protected most. Creating an IP-only talk page would shift the problem to there. Worthwhile? I'm on the fence. I like the idea of a [[honeypot (computing)]]. Ideally I just want him to bother me, since it's just water off my back, rather than someone else that might be driven away from the project entirely by the creepiness of an insane obsessive. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:11, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
== Tidying up talk pages ==


== Administrators' newsletter – August 2022 ==
Antandrus, what are the rules on tidying up talk pages? Is there some kind of archiving system? I notice alot of editors clean out their talk pages regularly. [[User:David Tombe|David Tombe]] ([[User talk:David Tombe|talk]]) 11:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (July 2022).
:Greetings! Most people archive them. You can look at how I do it (see the links under the picture at the top of the page); there is also a bot that you can assign the task, but I prefer archiving mine manually. To archive, just copy and paste the page contents to a new page, such as [[User talk:David Tombe/Archive 1]]. I like to save the last message or two so the page isn't completely blank (it's a subtle point, but some of our more timid users don't like to post on a completely blank page). Cheers, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 13:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


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Antandrus, Thanks for that information. [[User:David Tombe|David Tombe]] ([[User talk:David Tombe|talk]]) 20:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


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With [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Provod%C3%ADn&diff=prev&oldid=244797774 this] particular edit about placing tags on extremely short articles and as it states on the [[Template:Unreferenced]] page, "Consider not adding this template to extremely short articles." Unfortunately i dont think that [[User:SmackBot|editor]] will take much notice though :-) You have been here for a long time so know how it works more so than others. I think it is only appropriate to have the expand tag there for an article such as this and it seems fine to me. What do you think? Best [[Special:Contributions/137.154.16.30|137.154.16.30]] ([[User talk:137.154.16.30|talk]]) 01:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
* [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_190#RfC%3A_Showing_Editnotices_to_mobile_editors|An RfC]] has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
* [[Special:Permalink/1099239489#Notability_of_train_stations|An RfC]] has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.


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:Greetings -- yes, I think the "expand" is fine, which is why I left it; expand tags can be a tempting carrot for newcomers to try their hand at editing -- but it's one of my pet peeves here that people go slapping those giant, ugly, obnoxious tags, typically involving referencing, on articles without a thought for who we are serving: the ''reader''. If there's a way that only ''editors'' can see them, then I wouldn't mind so much. The other thing I find irritating is that most of the taggers aren't actually helping in the hard work of finding references, they're just slapping tags all over the place. But that's just my unpopular opinion. In a recent random-pages sample I found that about one out of five of our articles had some sort of giant 'this article sucks for the following reasons' tag at the top. Best, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 03:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
* The [[:wikimania:Hackathon|Wikimania 2022 Hackathon]] will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
::Those tags do serve the reader. They point out that the information presented might not be reliable. [[User:Asher196|Asher196]] ([[User talk:Asher196|talk]]) 03:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
* Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. ([[phab:T308570|T308570]])


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:::In the ''opinion'' of the ''one'' person who happens by and slaps on the tag, which trumps sometimes weeks of labor by many other editors. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 03:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
* The arbitration case request ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Geschichte|Geschichte]]'' has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.
::::I was thinking more along the lines of an unreferenced article. I just clicked on twenty random articles and did not find a single tag.[[User:Asher196|Asher196]] ([[User talk:Asher196|talk]]) 03:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


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:::::That's interesting; it shows that we need a database query rather than random page checks. The last time I did that (maybe a month ago) I clicked on thirty, and got six, but didn't save the list. I did a more thorough random-page qc once [[User:Antandrus/QA|here]] for a presentation, but did not note tagging frequency there either; I only assessed quality and condition. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 13:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
* You can vote for candidates in the [[:meta:Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022|2022 Board of Trustees elections]] from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
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== August songs ==
Is [[User:Layre]] logged out. [[User:Clark89|Clark89]] ([[User talk:Clark89|talk]]) 03:24, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1104192329 pics and thoughts] on 13 August -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:41, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


and on [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1104579756 15 August]: "my" concert of the year (so far) is on the Main page, but not pictured, and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2022|I don't understand why]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
:Yes: you are certainly correct. He's at that age where "gay" is the worst insult imaginable. Offhand I'd say he has some homework due tomorrow which he is trying to avoid doing, and I'd hazard a guess it's at a middle school in Medford, Oregon. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 03:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


the last week brought [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1105775366 more outstanding concerts and bike tours], - how is your summer? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
==Changes to Composers Project banner?==
Hi. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] is suggesting changes to the Composers banner. In particular she is objecting to the mention of 'songwriters'. I'm wondering if you might know the (historical?) reasons for the reference? The discussion is '''[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Composers#Problems_with_.7B.7BComposers.7D.7D_banner|here]]'''. Thanks. --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 08:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


:Hi Gerda! - it's pretty good. Composition projects, lots of writing (elsewhere, obviously), family time. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 19:23, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
:I've offered two possible new versions - one referring to 'mainstream composers' and one to 'composers of all eras and styles'. I don't know if you have a preference for one rather than the other? I'd like to wrap this one up and move on . . . --''[[User:Kleinzach|<span style="color:#FF4500;letter-spacing:2px;">Klein</span>]][[User talk:Kleinzach|<span style="padding:0px 0px 1px 2px;color:white; background-color:#ACE1AF;letter-spacing:2px;">zach</span>]]'' 07:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:: thank you, sounds good - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1106022183 another great tour on Debussy's birthday] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:37, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
:: + [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1107047373 the church where I heard VOCES8] and more discoveries --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
::: Wow, [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda]], did you just hear the Bruckner 7th? I'm jealous. Love that piece. It soars, it soars. That opening, that in its very scale sets up the granitic mountain range that is the whole - it's sublime. I have synesthesia and hear E major as radiant gold, and this piece is the type specimen, so to speak. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
:::: you say that so well, - now I'm a bit jealous ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:12, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
:::: thank you for what you told Aza24! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


== Changing user name question ==
::Wish I could decide. I'm on the fence, and can go either way. If forced to make a choice I suppose I'd go for "all eras and styles" -- unless there is a Wikiproject Songwriters I don't know about. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


My brother-in-law registered a kind of jokey user name and now wants to change it to something more professional. His jokey user name is actually a stumbling block to his being a more active editor. How can he change it officially? Thanx in advance. [[User:Amuseclio|Amuseclio]] ([[User talk:Amuseclio|talk]]) 13:41, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Amuseclio
== Update on California National Forests ==


:Hi [[User:Amuseclio|Amuseclio]] -- it's easy. All you have to do is go here: [[Special:GlobalRenameRequest|'''Global user account rename request''']]. See [[WP:RENAME]] for the whole policy. I think it gets more complicated if he has a ''lot'' of edits but that's not what it sounds like. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
After more than 4 hours, I have finally gone through all 18 articles and made sure they have a functioning infobox with either the US locator map or a photo of some sort. I am gathering information on the Angeles NF from my main ref book as I believe that article is in the poorest shape (also has the most evil tag). The reason WP is so addicting, is the work is never-ending! The "end of the tunnel" moves away as we try to approach it LOL.
Cheers, [[User:Marcia Wright|Marcia Wright]] ([[User talk:Marcia Wright|talk]]) 18:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – September 2022 ==
==Cheers==
Thanks for the block of [[User:Whitey234]] (love the summary by the way), was tempted to do it myself, but figured i should wait to see if he came back.--[[User:Jac16888|Jac16888]] ([[User talk:Jac16888|talk]]) 02:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (August 2022).
:You're welcome -- accounts that do nothing but attack other users need to be sent packing, double quick, in my opinion. I cut a lot of slack for clueless newbies, but this one didn't look like a potential good user. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:59, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


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I understand the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of solo piano pieces|keep result]] but I must ask in all seriousness &mdash; do we list every [[John Tesh]] or [[Jim Brickman]] piece? This is what I was trying to determine but I could not get a valid response.
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Thank you. [[User:Timneu22|Timneu22]] ([[User talk:Timneu22|talk]]) 17:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


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:No, probably not. There is an inevitable gray area in lists where some items will be bluelinked, some will be redlinked, and some will be blacklinked: that is, an item may be notable enough ''only'' for inclusion on a list, but not to have its own article. While Wikipedia may never actually be "finished", I can see it leveling off at a point where we accept that some marginally-notable things aren't going to get articles. I personally think every BWV item by Bach deserves an article, as does every opus number by Brahms and every K. number by Mozart. Probably every opus by Alkan. Maybe every piece by ... Thalberg. And then it's gray. But that's just the way I see it, and I suppose I tend towards inclusionism on music. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


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:Actually I think I misunderstood your question at first -- do we list them at ''all''? Once again it gets into a gray zone -- when you get to the marginally notable composers, probably not. I'd list every piece by Chopin, Alkan, and Thalberg though. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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:: I think we'll get into trouble here eventually. Everything by Chopin and Beethoven? Sure. But there are lots of current composers/artists who are more than "marginaly" notable (George Winston), and based on your statements above, one could interpret this as, ''yes, all their pieces should be listed.'' Maybe we should create a "list of composers whose pieces are worth being listed". ;-) [[User:Timneu22|Timneu22]] ([[User talk:Timneu22|talk]]) 21:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


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I'm wondering if [[Violin]] should be semi-protected, given the rate of IP vandalism on it relative to substantive edits. Is this something an admin (i.e. you :) can just do, or does it have to go through a more formal process? ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 12:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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:Hi Magicpiano! Yes, come to think of it, that's one of those articles I'm constantly reverting dumb vandalism from, and which almost never gets good IP edits, so yes, I think I will. Regarding a more formal process -- one exists ([[WP:RFPP]]), but in practice with semiprotection for often-vandalized articles, it seems most of the time it's easier just to ask someone (like you are doing now). Thanks and keep up the great work! :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 13:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
* An arbitration case regarding [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct in deletion-related editing|Conduct in deletion-related editing]] has been closed. The Arbitration Committee [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing#Request_for_Comment|passed a remedy]] as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
* The arbitration case request ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jonathunder|Jonathunder]]'' has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.


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::Thanks. I just wasn't sure if it was ''required'' to go through the formal process, which is why I asked. ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 18:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::Nope. But then I'm [[WP:ROUGE|rouge]] about all things bureaucratic. :) By the way, now that I'm thinking of it, thank you for your work on Schubert, with your excellent rewrite and de-1911ification of the thing. I've been talking about it needing to be done on the article's discussion page for more than four years now; really appreciate your work on it. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 18:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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== September music ==
==Beethoven==
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You were quick.
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Question: please give an opus or WoO number
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Answer: WoO13
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[[User:Wallie|Wallie]] ([[User talk:Wallie|talk]]) 20:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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1 September: I remember the [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1107842829 Vespro della Beata Vergine], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1108308497 2 September]: the last of the [[Rheingau Musik Festival]] concerts, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1108521596 today] we can read [[The Story of Mr Sommer]], and follow [[Ruth Lapide]]. - Do you have a bit of time to look into [[viola repertoire]]? -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


Today: [[Opera in Ukraine]], not by me. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:06, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
:Thanks -- I think I got it now -- I looked through the ''complete'' Beethoven works list, and did a little bit of research. It's by Johann Heinrich Walch, formerly attributed to Beethoven as WoO Anhang 13 (WoO 13 is the set of 12 German Dances for orchestra). I haven't been able to establish yet ''when'' the attribution was changed from Beethoven to Walch (if it ever was) or why anyone thought it was by Beethoven. Maybe there is a downloadable score on the internet somewhere I can't find? Cheers, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 20:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


a rainbow pic today, and a deer yesterday (but hard to see) - [[Jubilate Deo (Britten)|Jubilate Deo]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
:Thank you too. You are absolutely correct. It is great to have this puzzle solved. I like this piece of music, and it is often attributed to Beethoven. I can well imagine why they thought it was Beethoven, as the march is very very good! [[User:Wallie|Wallie]] ([[User talk:Wallie|talk]]) 21:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


the rose pic was taken on 11 Sep 2021, and this year was full of music that day, [[Tag des offenen Denkmals]], not only singing in church and rehearsals for Verdi's Requiem, but two concerts at special places [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1110249866 pictured], one a synagogue (pictured on its wall). Today three DYK: a piece we'll perform on Sunday, a violinist we heard in June playing the Berg Concerto, and a Youth Orchestra shaped by a conductor who recently died. Almost too much of a good thing. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:09, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
::You're welcome .... wanting to hear it, I found an MP3 version [http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Oeuvres/Music-Midi-Mp3-OthersPiano.html#Anh13 here]. Interesting piece; it begins in A minor and ends in E minor: Beethoven never does that; at least I can't think of any examples. The list claims the original key is F minor (though I presume the transcriptionist just made the change arbitrarily). Since the opening is so similar to the funeral march from the sonata opus 26, and shortly includes big diminished seventh chords just like that piece does, I have to wonder if Walch was deliberately writing it as a ''tribute'' to Beethoven. It certainly sounds like "Beethovenian". Cheers, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


today, we sang old music for two choirs at church, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1110991391 pictured], scroll to the image of the organ of the month of the Diocese of Limburg (my perspective), and if you have time, watch the video about it --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:52, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks for the sample mp3 version. I read somewhere that Walch had something to do with the composition of the funeral march for opus 26 too. Walch is obviously a talented composer in his own right! The funeral march as played in the Rememberance Sunday program is to my mind a very impressive piece of music, and just fits the great occasion of the wreath laying. I sometimes put half researched stuff on Wikipedia. It is better than nothing - and someone like yourself comes in and fills in some gaps, or at least correct/reverts what I have said. Thanks again. [[User:Wallie|Wallie]] ([[User talk:Wallie|talk]]) 11:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


... and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1111085755 today] I wrote an article about music premiered today, [[Like as the hart (Weir)|Like as the hart]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
==Fan mail==
Yeah good call on that "upperclass wikipedian" eh? BRASIL! <<giant Brazil flag redacted>> [[User:Wiki_brah]]


and yesterday I wrote [[Who shall separate us?]] and today [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1111551456 we enjoy] [[Spannungen]] (tensions, sparks ...) - chamber music --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
:Cool, I like Brazil. "Fox news", huh? LOL. Have a nice day. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1112412432 travel and strings sound], last in a brand-new concert hall --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:37, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
== Userpage ==


last images, - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1113098760 music to explore], a Ukrainian baritone first, and the new Casals Forum for chamber music is just wonderful. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:01, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Hope you don't mind, but I lifted quite a bit of your userpage design for my userpage. :) [[User:Master&amp;Expert|'''<span style="color:Blue">Master&amp;</span>'''<span style="color:#00FFFF">Expert</span>]] ([[User talk:Master&amp;Expert|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]) 06:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


== Please vote in the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation Inc. Board of Trustees election ==
== against trollss ==


Hello hello. I hope this message finds you well.
A, may I ask you to go to [[WP:DE]] which I think (1) needs some rvisions and then (2) elevation to policy, as it will address many of our concerns? i left a commetn on the talk pae, maybe you can take the next step. [[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] | [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk]] 20:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


The Wikimedia Foundation Inc. Board of Trustees election ends soon, '''[[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/393|please vote]]'''. At least one of [[m:Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates#Candidates list|the candidates]] is worthy of support. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 14:30, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
:Tricky one. Blocking for disruptive editing is already in policy [[Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Disruption|here]], but the type of disruption we're concerned with is not on that list. To do anything useful I think we'd have to amend the blocking policy itself (good luck on that!) before attempting to make the DE page policy. Or do you think I'm getting it backwards? At any rate WP:DE should expand and explain what is already in the blocking policy. The core of the issue is this, which you perceptively identified: a ''series'' of edits may be disruptive, even though no ''individual'' edit may violate any policy. ''Identifying'' those disruptive groups of edits as such requires intangible qualities sometimes known collectively as common sense, and I'm not sure how to either teach that, or write it in such a way as to be enforceable. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


== Josquin (for the 1000th time) ==
DE is different from the disruption section of the blocking policy. It definitely shouldn't expand and explain what is already on the blocking policy. It is a new thing. Here is a chance to revise a set of guidelines so that they actually address a (1) real but (2) inadequately addressed problem, and ''then'' propose it for policy. if it is accepted for policy, only ''then' is the policy on blocking revised to make it consistent with the new policy.


Hey! My work on the Josquin article is mostly finished; reviewers at the [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Josquin des Prez/archive1|article's FAR]] are now taking a look through for final clean up and such. Sandy has asked if another editor familiar with the subject matter could go through it to double check for any content inconsistencies or errors. If at all possible, any thoughts you might have on these matters would be most appreciated on the page's FAR. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 00:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
<s>Have you read my comment on the DE page? I assumed that you would respond to what I wrote, but what you write here doesn't really follow from what i wrote so I am finding it hard to see how you are or are not reacting to my suggestions.</s>


:Hi [[User:Aza24|Aza]] - certainly. I'll try to give it a readthrough in the next couple days - mainly for content but may make some prose tweaks. It's ten years since I've read any of the Josquin scholarship, so - as I don't have a strong research library five minutes away like I did when I wrote the original article, if I need to access something behind a paywall I may just ask you. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
It sounds like you are saying that we really just need to go by existing policies, and revise any new proposal so it says just what existing policy says. Well, I have a different approach to proposing new policies. Also, I thought you agreed that there is a problem at Wikipedia currently ill-served by policy, this seems to be the only way to address it, but if you are not interested, well, okay - sorry to have bothered you. [[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] | [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk]] 22:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::Much obliged—and happy to provide any scholarship for reference, though I will not have my hands on the ''Josquin Companion'' again until next week. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 02:26, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
:::(I should have just bought myself a copy of the damn thing back in the day...)
:::Are you not a fan of the Oxford comma, and do you mean for the article to be without it? No worries either way; I just like consistency. (Should I write my comments on the FAR page? - I will continue reading it soon.) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:41, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
::::I started using the Oxford comma a lot more this year, but since I worked on Josquin throughout the year, I suspect there are inconsistencies on the page. Comments on the FAR page would be great, preferably the FAR talk page (you'll see Sandy has left comments there too). '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 03:14, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – October 2022 ==
:Patterns are not intangible. The fact that a pattern is made up of edits that violate no other policies is not a problem. When astronomers identify a new body in space, they take a series of photographs. Usually, the information in a photograph is not enough to determined whether a point of light is a star, a comet, or a planet. Only many photographs reveal the pattern, which enables one to identify the object. this is common - I imagine it is the same in music, listening to a pile of notes doesn't tell you anything, it could be noise, you need to see the patterns in rhythm and pitch. Only Wikipedia seems not to acknowledge that the most meaningful things in human experience take the forms of patterns. The task is to classify different patterns. i am not sure how to do this, but i think enough people who are sensitive to trolling can have a discussion and begin to sort out the elements ''of'' the pattern itself. [[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] | [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk]] 22:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (September 2022).
::Yes, I read your comment -- thank you for striking that -- I'm just not sure of the answer yet. It's not obvious to me. I can recognize trolling but it's quite apparent that not everyone can, even people I thought were common-sensible. The situation reminds me of that U.S. Supreme Court justice who said that he didn't know what pornography was, but could recognize it when he saw it. In my four years as an admin I see I have made numerous blocks for trolling that ''literally'' aren't covered by that disruption clause in the blocking policy -- but this line gives us an out: "This is not an exhaustive list; blocking may be used in other situations, particularly situations addressed by more specific policies dealing with particular issues." That would seem to allow a DE policy to cover trolling. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:56, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


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:Well, I think the way to start is simply for a group of like-minded experienced admins to get together and knock around ideas .... [[User:Slrubenstein|Slrubenstein]] | [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk]] 23:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
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Hi there! I am dipping my toe gingerly back in the waters here, trying not to get sucked back in to the degree of abandoning my work and family as has happened in the past. I wonder if you would please be so kind as to take a gander at the [[software architect]] page, which I am fooling with, to see if my updates are improvements or merely pointless alterations.


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Heard the Alsop/Baltimore [[Mass (Bernstein)|Bernstein ''Mass'']] last month, a work I had not known before. It was really something special, very very well done and deeply moving in its own way.
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== Schubert ==


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Hi Antandrus. I was wondering whether you had seen [[Schubert's last sonatas|this gem of an article]]. Have recently come across it and am more than delighted (not least, I admit, because it's about one of my all-time favorite pieces), it almost restored my confidence in Wikipedia's creative potential. Had a little discussion with the main author at [[User talk:Gidip]]. There is also a review linked from the talk page. Your input would be invaluable. Warning: long read. Thanks and best wishes, [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] ([[User talk:Kosebamse|talk]]) 21:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
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* Community comment on [[:meta:Universal Code of Conduct/Revised enforcement guidelines|the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines]] is requested until 8 October.


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:Wow. I don't know how I missed it. It's a year old, too. Great article; very fine indeed. Frankly, I wish our article on Schubert was as good as this. I will read it but I don't want to look at the peer review until I've read the full article myself. I know these pieces pretty well (the C minor least of the three) -- they're powerful. (The Andantino movement of the A major sonata, in my opinion, is Schubert's agonized negotiation with Death itself, briefly reaching the edge of insanity -- it reminds me of Job's argument with God, only without any hope -- it's also interesting that he uses an instrumental recitative in a way similar to what you find in late Beethoven). I think the article is already better than many of our FAs, but getting it past the gauntlet can be so soul-crushing, I dunno. -- Here's a thought: the opposite extreme is here: [[Late String Quartets (Beethoven)]]. Mount Everest. Wouldn't it be fun to have that article equal in quality to the Schubert? Group of late compositions by a massively important composer, often viewed as a set. It just shows us how much remains to be done on Wikipedia ... [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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::Mozart's last symphonies, anyone? But shouldn't we try to get that Schubert article promoted. My idea was to ask another one or two knowledgeable Wikipedian, and give it the final polish without the public attention of formal review, lest it get ruined through [[design by committee]]. I can lend a hand if I find the time (which won't be much in the near future, unfortunately), but neither my English nor my knowledge is nearly good enough, so more help would be needed. What do you think? [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] ([[User talk:Kosebamse|talk]]) 04:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
* [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Muhammad_images#Discretionary_sanctions|Remedy 8.1]] of the ''Muhammad images'' case will be rescinded 1 November following a [[Special:Permalink/1107517787#Sunset of Muhammed images|motion]].
* [[Special:Permalink/1111557733#Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing_RfC|A modification]] to the deletion RfC remedy in the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct in deletion-related editing|Conduct in deletion-related editing]] case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
* The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions/2021-22 review/Phase II consultation|second phase]] of the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions/2021-22 review|2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review]] closes 3 October.


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== October music ==
Hi, I and my fellow editors are facing a deadlock on a issue of removing/toning down a section as subsection under criticism section in [[Operation Blue Star]] article, concerns include WP:NPOV, the summary of dispute can be found at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Operation_Blue_Star#Cruelity_section_deletion_by_LegalEagle], please let us know your views/opinion so that 'alleged' bias may be looked into and a consensual solution may be found. Thanks [[User:Legaleagle86|LegalEagle]] ([[User talk:Legaleagle86|talk]]) 06:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1113690826 Today] is Erntedank in Germany, thanksgiving, and we celebrated our village's 650th anniversary, and had the dress rehearsal for Verdi's Requiem with an interesting band of marimba, piano, horn, bass, timpani and drum, - concert tomorrow, our national holiday. Seeing a pic I took on the Main page was also a nice harvest. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


:650! Where I live, something is old if a gray-haired person remembers it being built. But yet an entire culture existed here for ten thousand years, and left nothing but ghosts that talk to you in the wind, on an October night. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
==[[Nathan Hale (Game Character)]]==
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2022|Thomanerchor]] celebrated 800 years (in 2012)! - Excited that Ukrainian choir [[Oreya|OREYA]] will visit our parish, giving a concert on 4 November. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:28, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello! You had deleted this article. A similar article is under discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Hale (character)]], which is currently in no consensus territory and I would like to see if anything from the previous article might be merged into the article under discussion. Could you please either temporarily restore the article and its talk page or just post whatever contents were on them onto my talk page to see if there were any additional references I might be able to use? I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks! Also, if the article under discussion does result in a no consensus or keep closer, would you be opposed to a redirect being created out of the one in this topic line? Thanks again! Sincerely, --[[User:A Nobody|A Nobody]]<sup>''[[User talk:A Nobody|My talk]]''</sup> 16:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:: new day, another pictured DYK (but not pictured by me this time): [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1115820410 look] at power work tensions (if you translate) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
:Greetings! Here you go -- this is the complete content of the article that I deleted (minus a few extra hard returns, and indented one level for readability:
:: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1117046339 today's DYK]: two facts from the two concert of this years Rheingau Musik Festival I liked best, both a cappella singing, yes, Thomanerchor. If you follow the songs, you see a circus, where I performed singing, and in the end the whole tent joined for [[Dona nobis pacem (round)|Dona nobis pacem]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:52, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
:: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1117577933 who shall separate us] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
:: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1118406987 spa wellness]: last day of [[Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56|BWV 56]], and two great musicians who died --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:41, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
:: leaving the month with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1119269216 reformation and a cat treat] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – November 2022 ==
::Nathan hale is the protagonist of the Playstation 3 game Resistance: Fall of Man
::he killed like every chimera in england and then he went to america to win again.


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (October 2022).
:No references or sources. The original creator was [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vanila58 Vanila58]. Hope this helps, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


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:Oh, and I didn't finish answering your question: a redirect would be fine. (I deleted the stublet originally since all the other contributions by that account were vandalism.) Cheers, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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:::Was there any on the talk page? I see from [[User_talk:Antandrus/Archive29#Nathan_Hale_.28Game_Character.29]] that an IP claimed he was adding a reference to a draft on the talk page for the article, which was also deleted. Is it possible to let me know what was put on the talk page? Thanks! Sincerely, --[[User:A Nobody|A Nobody]]<sup>''[[User talk:A Nobody|My talk]]''</sup> 16:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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I know you're sensitive to this, I'd like to find a proper way to address your concern about limited source material. When I look at an article, I'm currently looking for:
* The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale|article creation at scale]] RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
#cited statements about what source materials are available
* An [[Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#RfC:_should_RfAs_be_put_on_hold_automatically?|RfC is open]] to discuss having open [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship|requests for adminship]] automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a [[WP:CRAT|bureaucrat]].
#other citable assertions that the article describes the extent of current knowledge
If a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] has written about someone (i.e. done some original research), statements like "Little is known about X" should be cited (they're not in [[Adrien Basin]]).


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I'm not sure what to use as a guide when the editor (i.e. you) is essentially asserting "these are all the sources that are currently known, and the article reflects them". Perhaps you can give some guidance. (I'm [[WP:IAR|ignoring]] the fact that I think this skates right up against [[WP:NOR]], a rule I don't entirely agree with (and I suspect you don't either).) ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 16:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
* Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2022|in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections]].
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:Stepping back a bit and looking at our encyclopedia and the Byzantine array of policies and guidelines that have accreted to guide its development, one thing strikes me every time: the over-interpretation of "no original research." There are a lot of ''fundamentalists'' on the issue; an extreme position, which I have seen unfortunately frequently, is that one can say next to ''nothing'' about any topic without tagging it with a cite. The way I interpret the policy is that you can read a source, put its contents in your own words, and maybe put one cite per paragraph (unless you are writing on a current news or political event, in which case it quickly becomes impossible to work without citing absolutely everything). But even that is not required: inline cites are not actually ''required'' for writing on Wikipedia. Only listing verifiable sources is (unless the policy changed when I wasn't watching).
* The [[WP:CUOS2022|2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process]] has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
:To determine what sources are available on a composer, I look at the Grove bibliography, which is invariably excellent. I can't think of a better way to compile sources other than a trip to a good research library, and even that won't turn them up as well as the list compiled by the individual scholar who Oxford regards as the world expert on the topic, who they asked to write the Grove article.
* You can add yourself to [[Wikipedia:List of administrators/Timezones|the centralised page listing time zones of administrators]].
:Sometimes you can find tertiary sources on the internet. CD liners contain useful information sometimes. You can find things in Google books. Often you can find sources more recent than what is in the online Grove, which contains many articles not updated since the 1980 edition (although often they update the bibliography, while leaving the text alone -- in particular I have noticed a lot of David Fallows's articles have not changed since 1980).
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:I don't list the Grove bibliography in articles -- somehow it feels like plagiarism to do so (does it?)
:Occasionally I have fattened articles using primary sources, when nothing else was available.
:Dunno. Wish I could be more helpful. I just try to write the things as completely as I can, using every source I can get. And I'll admit I'm still smarting from that godawful 2007 "assessment drive" for the Biography project, which tagged articles three or four per minute, invariably as "stub" or "start", based on -- who knows? I still can't figure out what they were looking at -- length? no infobox? no pictures? -- those of us who dared to question it were met with bureaucratic hostility. I still think that was one of the most actively destructive, and passionately supported, projects ever run on Wikipedia, ''if'' these ratings ever mean anything. It was an exercise in aggressive ignorance the likes of which I've never seen anywhere else on the project -- that people with no knowledge of a topic whatsoever can, in ''fifteen seconds'', determine whether or not an article you have spent days compiling and writing gets on that stable-version DVD or not. Damn them to hell. I just want us to do a better job than that, and so far I think we are thanks to you and Kleinzach and a couple others, and I do appreciate the work you are putting in to this. Best, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for venting. (Seriously. It helps at least me to understand more of the why, especially since I am relatively new here.)
::I also find some of the policies here a little over-the-top. I decided to try steering some articles through the GA process, in part to understand how reviewers there approach subjects they don't necessarily know well. That process deals more with form than content (i.e. the reviewers aren't really in a position to ''validate'' the content). The main thing raising my hackles is the (I guess introduced this year?) policy of requiring inline citations for GA/FA certification. Literally, if a paragraph does not end with a footnote, the reviewer calls you on it. (See [[Talk:Boston campaign/GA1]], especially the bullet on "shot heard round the world", as well as the first reviewer's comments. Gack. I thought I'd try to steer [[Franz Schubert]] through that, now I'm not so sure.)
::One thought I had was that perhaps the Composers project should have something like a formal A-class review (required or optional to be determined by consensus?). This would give the nominating editor the opportunity to assert and defend completeness of the material against peer editors within the project (rather than style-and-form nitpickers in GA/FA land). This would give a forum in which statements you make above (e.g. "no significant new research since 1980") can be probed and given weight that they can't in a 1-10 minute drive-by review. I don't know if (or how well) this would work given present participation levels, though.
::One random thought on Biography project assessments: from the sample of 15 I looked at yesterday, I would judge that, as a rule, the Biography assessment should be at least the Composer assessment, but not necessarily vice versa. A composer assessment includes specific things not implied by a Biography assessment (things like work-list, critical appreciation, etc). A reasonably complete bio that is missing those things to a large degree may have trouble getting a B, for example. I'd not feel too bad about what they have to say...
::Kleinzach made a good point on the project talk page -- I should have cross-checked my thoughts against the written descriptions of the levels. In the light of that, I think he's correct about Basin being Start level. Best, ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 14:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:I've reviewed [[William Brade]]. Let me know what you think of my [[Talk:William Brade/Comments|comments]]. ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 22:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


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::It's fair. The only way I can see to expand the article is to get my hands on that 1965 doctoral dissertation in North Carolina, and maybe look at the other references in the Grove bibliography. I wrote the article in summer 2005 which was before we were using inline cites; I can go back and put some in. Finding a free audio sample would be tough, short of recording one myself. One thing I ''can'' do is add a works list, since the current online Grove article has one (I wrote the article originally from the 1980 Grove, which I have in hard copy; that was probably before I bought myself a subscription to the online version).
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::It's interesting (or maybe you knew this?) -- Brade was the first time that I collided with the Wikiproject "Biography". I left what I thought was a polite note on the talk page of the person who downgraded my "B" to "start" [[User_talk:Cgilbert76#Criteria_for_biography_rating]] asking him how they came up with their ratings, and what they meant -- and received a condescending, unhelpful reply that just left me open-mouthed with astonishment. That was just the first time. -- Maybe people who don't write articles honestly have no idea how this feels. I know you know, since you contribute content -- but many of the Wikiproject Rubberstamp folks do no writing at all, and I think they neither know nor care what it feels like to have a drive-by, completely ignorant, rubberstamp assessment; they ''honestly think they are helping the encyclopedia''. I dunno. -- But getting back to your question: your assessment is good, and you list things that can be improved. Thanks, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
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:::I didn't know it was the subject of your tussle with the Bio folks, but I'm hardly surprised, considering an alphabetic attack (from the back) makes him first from that time period.
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:::My comments on discography and sound are really just suggestions -- I think all composers benefit from that, and I think it's mostly harmless for sparsely-recorded composers (where it may also round out the article). Interestingly, Amazon lists 50 CD containing his music (mostly early-music collections), but Arkivmusic, which is usually quite reliable (at least for later periods), doesn't list any. Anyway, thanks for the feedback. ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 13:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
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== Another IP for the Talk:Homo antecessor vandalism ==
== Thank you! ==


Per [[Special:Contributions/184.103.6.255]] shouldn’t that IP be blocked too? [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] ([[User_talk:Mike Christie|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie|contribs]] - [[User:Mike Christie/Reference library|library]]) 01:07, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
[[Image:WikiThanks.png|43px|left|WikiThanks]] '''Thank you'''<br>for reverting the personal attacks on my userpage (and talk)


:It looks like a VPN or group of open proxies (one IP was in Arizona, one in Taiwan, one in Greece) so it's highly unlikely the person would get the same IP again. I will block it though if it returns. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:26, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
::Ah, OK. Thanks. Since I don’t think we’ve spoken before I should take the opportunity to say how much I like [[User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior]]. I must have read it half a dozen times over the years; thanks for putting it together. [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] ([[User_talk:Mike Christie|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie|contribs]] - [[User:Mike Christie/Reference library|library]]) 01:32, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
:::Oh thank you! - really appreciate that. I always like to hear when someone has noticed that thing, or it has done some good. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


== November vacation ==
And great job with the [[WP:CM]] articles. Your name pops up often - keep up the great work! :) &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic">[[User:La Pianista|<font color="darkblue">'''La</font>&nbsp;<font color="dodgerblue">Pianista</font>]]</font> <sup>([[User talk:La Pianista|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/La Pianista|C]]•[[User:La Pianista/g|S]])'''</sup> 03:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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I was away for vacation in the U.S., pictured, after we had an Ukrainian choir visiting, my first subject celebrated 60, and we heard Bach's ultimate statement about life and death (3 concerts in 3 days) -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:58, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


:Oh wow Gerda, that's wonderful! I haven't been in New York City for a few years. Looks like a lovely time. I admit I laughed out loud at the Katz's deli picture (remembering a certain movie).
:Hey, thanks! appreciate that! and you're welcome, of course ... I like this to be a friendly place. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 03:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
:Busy composing music these days, and getting my piano technique back up where it belongs. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 18:53, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
:: That sounds great! Happy Thanksgiving! [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1123536535 Bach said it in music for peace] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:30, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
:::Happy Thanksgiving as well, Gerda! - our big family gathering this year is at my house so I will be cooking much of the day. However this year I get to choose the music. :) May include Bach. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:50, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
:::: good choice! the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqdXwd7FEyI sinfonia of that cantata] might be a good idea --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:45, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
:::: American tradition guests preferred Lebanese, pictured --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:26, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
:::: Opera and Advent choral music [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1124356261 on my talk] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)


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Antandrus, I told you that I believed that I could obtain a consensus on centrifugal force in three weeks. That hasn't turned out to be the case. On that issue, I believe that I have now said all I have to say on that topic over and over again. The only reason that I have continued on for as long as I have is because I genuinely believe that Brews ohare is keen to understand the topic, and that since he is such a prolific editor, it would be best for everybody if in fact he did fully understand the topic.
The reason that I am writing to you is to ask advice on a policy issue. I would like to give my private e-mail address to Brews ohare in order to continue the discussion in private outside of the constraints of wikipedia policy. But I don't know if I am actually allowed to provide a private e-mail address on the talk pages under wikipedia's rules. The reason why I am concerned about breaking any rules is because Wolfkeeper has put in a request to the admin noticeboard to have me blocked. I am concerned that it is possible for such a request to have been entered without any grounds or without any rules having been broken. But the fact that his request resulted in me getting a warning from an administrator means that I don't wish to take any risks.
Would it be legal for me to supply Brews ohare with my private e-mail address in order to carry this discussion on outside of wikipedia? I can see no further benefit in discussing the matter on wikipedia in an atmosphere such that I might get blocked at any moment on a whim. I look forward to hearing from you. [[User:David Tombe|David Tombe]] ([[User talk:David Tombe|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


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:I hope Antandrus doesn't mind me chipping in here (as it looks like we're in different time zones, and it might be a while before they see this post). David, you're right that we discourage users from putting their email addresses on public view, not only as a privacy concern but to reduce the chances of them being [[E-mail address harvesting|harvested by spammers]]. However, if you go to any editor's user page, there will be an 'E-mail this user' link in the toolbox on the left of the screen. Following this link will take you to a page where you can send a personal, private message to that user... assuming they've enabled their email on Wikipedia, which many users don't. Alternatively, you could enable your email (if you haven't already; see 'User profile' under the 'my preferences' link at the top of the screen), and drop Brews ohare a note on their talk page asking them if they don't mind emailing you.
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:Since you've indicated above that you no longer intend to discuss non-article related issues on the article talk page at Centrifugal force, I think we can consider this closed. To be honest, a little off-topic discussion on article talk pages is nothing unusual, but when it starts to dominate the page it does become a problem for the other editors working on the article, as it disrupts their primary communication channel.
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:If you have any questions etc, I'll be happy to help out if Antandrus isn't around. All the best, [[User:EyeSerene|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#4B0082">EyeSerene</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:EyeSerene|<span style="color:#6B8E23">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
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Eyesrene, OK thanks for sorting that out. I'm not sure what the off-topic discussion was but anyway we will consider the matter closed. There was no hope of getting a consensus the way things were developing. Private e-mail may or may not sort the matter out. Brews is a prolific writer and I know he wants to learn. It will be good for wikipedia if he gets a clear and concise vision of the centrifugal force topic in its entirety. [[User:David Tombe|David Tombe]] ([[User talk:David Tombe|talk]]) 19:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


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:Hi both -- EyeSerene, thank you -- that's well put and pretty much the same advice I would have given. (And no, of course I never mind other people helping out on my talk page!) And David, it's probably best to carry on off-wiki. Talk page discussion usually remains focused on improving the article, but there is fairly wide latitude: you will encounter extremists who delete ''anything'' even slightly off-topic (that happens especially on contentious political articles), and you will also encounter article talk pages that get almost a steady stream of [[WP:RD|reference desk]]-type questions, and nobody minds. I tend to be fairly liberal in this regard because I like to answer subject-matter questions that are asked in good faith. Thanks both, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


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Antandrus, Thanks for your reply. The centrifugal force debate was going to end sooner or later because it was going round in circles, and some editors were not really trying to achieve any consensus. I had already acknowledged their sources on matters which I strongly disagree with, but I couldn't get them to reciprocate and openly acknowledge the significance of the radial planetary orbital equation which undermined those very matters. The equation was in a gold standard source, but as you can read for yourself, they were intent on firstly denying it, and later drowning it out with word play. Had they acknowledged it, then we would have been in a position to discuss how to write the article in a balanced fashion.
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There was no going off topic to the best of my knowledge. That was merely Wolfkeeper's allegation which was totally unsubstantiated. He was trying to get me blocked again just as I was realizing that the word play was going to go on forever.
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I do however disagree with EyeSerene's analysis of the situation that Wolfkeeper's complaint against me was legitimate. If a lengthy debate is indeed disruptive as EyeSerene suggests, then the blame can hardly be laid at the feet of one editor. EyeSerene seemed to think that I was assuming bad faith by questioning Wolfkeeper's allegation. It was as if he was quite happy for Wolfkeeper to assume bad faith against me, but not vica-versa.
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== Scriabin article ==

Hello. I see that you've edited our page on Alexander Scriabin. In case you are interested,

I happened to be looking at that and I see lots of content cited to unpublished or self-published dissertations. Much of it is dubious in my opinion. The first one I found was in the "first period" section where there's analysis to claim that six and seven tone chords are extensions of the triad. I think this is highly misleading and does not reflect current approaches to theory and harmony, which focus more on the functions and tonal implications of such sounds and do not treat their structure in isolation. I hesitate to remove the content as unverified in RS, but I wonder what you think and what would be the best approach to improve this content? Thanks.[[User:SPECIFICO |<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 18:42, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:SPECIFICO|SPECIFICO]] -- yes, I've had that article on my watchlist seemingly forever but I don't remember actually reading it (or writing much of it). Looking quickly, it appears that Sabbagh book is self-published, and at best overused for the style section. It looks like the person who wrote that section hasn't edited since 2015, so -- the best approach (laborious, of course) is probably just to get better quality, current sources and rewrite it. For what it's worth, I wouldn't personally use much of a "triadic" approach if I were teaching Scriabin's music, especially the later stuff -- as you say, current approaches do not treat chordal structures in isolation. I rather doubt Scriabin was thinking that way, anyway; he was experimenting with nice chewy dissonances that felt good in his hands as he was improvising, to see where they led him, -- but that's just my OR. You might leave a note about a planned upgrade on the talk page. (I don't remember seeing any page "OWN"ers on Scriabin, if you know what I mean -- always a hurdle when you see an article needing an upgrade.) I'd be happy to read what you add. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 19:50, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
::Thanks. I think there's even a quote in the article to the effect that he ~"preferred fourths to thirds"😄 It would be a big job, and I'm not current with whatever academic literature may deal with analysis. It would be rather arcane 100+ years later. I don't think the self-sourced stuff by several authors is worthless, so I am OK to leave it alone for now.[[User:SPECIFICO |<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b>]][[User_talk:SPECIFICO | ''talk'']] 20:03, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

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[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1125591131 Today], we sang [[Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme]] twice, after a short trip to Paris with great opera and symphony, - enjoy! -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1126249307 Today], I can offer a hymn for a Marian feast, and I learned that [[Yvonne Ciannella]] died, the soprano who impressed me in [[Lucia di Lammermoor|my first night at the opera]]. As she died in March, sadly no Main page reverence is possible, - at least she had a good DYK, at a time when opera singers were considered interesting. I'm proud today that [[Christiane Hörbiger]] made it to that corner, and happy that we celebrate the birthday of [[Jean Sibelius]] again. - I heard an excellent Christmas concert yesterday, by [[Tenebrae (choir)|Tenebrae]], and a short excerpt of them singing "[[A Ceremony of Carols|Deo gracias]]" is also linked from my talk. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:02, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1126894146 Today] was a day rich in music, with two new pictures, and also rich in [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2022 December 11|WP:QAI contributions on the Main page]]: the TFA, 2 DYK and 2 RD with members as principal editors. The church pictured there (not by me, nice snow dust and tall evergreen) comes with memories, detailed on my talk. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:50, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Latest pics, with an opera discovery and some snow. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1127614368 Today my talk] has a DYK that was planned for 22 November, among the recent deaths the author of [[Duck, Death and the Tulip]], and now a choir pic of "our" concert last Sunday, likely to become next year's lead image. Enjoy. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:13, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Today, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1129655054 pictured], the soprano of our choral concert of the year. More in the context: [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Talia Or]], in case of interest. - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023|Enjoy the season]]! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:28, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

:Thank you Gerda, and happiest of Christmases to you and yours! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
:: Happy it was (singing pictured), and now happy new year to you and yours! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:28, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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:Thank you [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]], and happy holidays to you as well! - and I fully approve of that list of items for the new year. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

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== Happy New Year, Antandrus! ==
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'''Antandrus''',<br />Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable [[New Year]], and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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and also from me --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:12, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1131972502 today], I point at two singers I whose performance I enjoyed. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:03, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&oldid=1132390512 today], less pointy: a composition from a remarkable 2022 concert, the sad record of four articles about people who recently died on the Main page at the same time, and singing for Epiphany --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:32, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Today's featured article is [[Osbert Parsley]], not by me but Amitchell125 where {{diff|User talk:Amitchell125|1132741317|1132736322|I commented}}, including the beginning of [[User:Gerda Arendt/Songs|my songs]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm on vacation, - click on songs! I tell [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list|my own stories]] now, instead of relying on DYK. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:10, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Today's topic [[Elisabeth Waterhouse]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:21, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm back, most pics uploaded (but 1 1/2) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

:What a lovely trip that must have been! That "trail to Puertito" - and the pictures of the coast, and lush vegetation - has an uncanny similarity to the coast where I live. I think a lot of the landscaping plants here came from those islands. (In some cases, the reverse!) Beautiful. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:14, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
:: Yes, lovely - and now the rest of the pics - [[Melitta Muszely]] died, RIP - the [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list|other story]] is 10 years old OTD ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:09, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

== February songs ==

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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#7 Feb|yesterday's cantata]], 300 years later --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#12 Feb|today's stories]] are about two pieces we sang at church, today. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
:I love Arvo Pärt. Hope he lives forever. He captures something of perfect and eternal peace in his music - and he deserves every bit of his immense fame. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
:: I was blessed with meeting him during a concert intermission in Tallinn, telling him that we sing his music often, especially our youth choir. They did Da pacem in 2012, but this was the first time I got to sing it! - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#14 Feb|Today]] a book, [[Alte Liebe]], for Valentine --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:42, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
:: ... and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#17 Feb|today]] the regional festival - DYK of 13 years ago ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#24 Feb|My story on 24 February]] is about [[Artemy Vedel]] (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Suggestion for 7 weeks without|suggestion for more peace]], - what do you think? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:44, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#26 Feb|today]]: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

== Page protection? ==

Hi @[[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] -- wondering if you'd like to request some sort of protection on this page (autoconfirmed, logged in, etc.) -- it's been almost 2 years since the last IP/Unregistered account has added anything to the page that wasn't vandalism and more than that since something that was actually productive. I just see that >50% of my (admittedly, trimmed down) watchlist is Deletion Logs on this page. -- [[User:Mscuthbert|Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert]] <small>[[User_talk:Mscuthbert|(talk)]]</small> 21:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

:Yes, I agree it's probably necessary and have protected it myself from time to time - this psychotic obsessive in Chicago and his manic-bipolar sidekick in Poland seem to visit me rather regularly. (See the very top of the page; I already set up a mechanism for IP editors to contact me if they wanted to.) I think I'll close the screen door now, as that usually does keep the blowflies out. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

== Can I assume? ==

Hi, can I assume that you're dealing with the necessary global IP blocks when you follow himself to enWikisource? Navigating SRG is beyond me at present. [[User:Beeswaxcandle|Beeswaxcandle]] ([[User talk:Beeswaxcandle|talk]]) 06:39, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Beeswaxcandle|Beeswaxcandle]] - I usually don't try to block the IPs globally because they are all throwaway P2P proxies, and he seems to have thousands of them. (Well, if I had the ability to block globally myself I'd do it just to reduce the supply) - adding a request to SRG is cumbersome and of limited use. On enwiki I block them for six months, because over time (and hundreds of blocks, and strong edit filters) that slows him down. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 15:36, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

== March stories ==
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On [[International Women's Day|IWD]], I remember a 2016 DYK: [[Hana Blažíková]], a Czech who sang German music in Japan. Girls and women sang how [[Tilge, Höchster, meine Sünden, BWV 1083|Bach arranged Pergolesi's Stabat Mater]] to a new text paraphrasing Psalm 51, [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#5 Mar|last Sunday]]. - I loved improving [[Mary Bauermeister]] - on the Main page until yesterday. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for a thank-you-click, - but nothing happened afterwards, not from the user. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

:Ah yes, [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda]]. That whole situation just makes me feel ''pain''. I avoid those discussions as they quickly become so toxic. People have become so deeply entrenched that any change is unlikely in most personal positions.
:What strikes me is that both sides of the argument are, in fact, ''right''. But people talk past each other, and are as unlikely to acknowledge the potential rightness of the other side's argument as they are to transform into a unicorn and fly off in a sparkle of rainbows. Standing back a bit, what I see is this: IBs have become, for better or worse (and sometimes, in my opinion, distinctly worse) a ''de facto'' standard on Wikipedia, so readers expect them, and when they are not there, they complain. Consistency is a good thing, usually, and I too find it jarring when an article doesn't have an infobox, - even though I completely understand how IBs can be devoid of nuance, and can emphasize perfectly trivial details in an overly prominent way. - Standing back even farther - back up, back up, way back, for a ''big'' picture - the way we gather and process information in 2023 is very different from the way it was 50 or 100 years ago. Attention spans have changed, and people are now used to encountering data overviews in tabular format. Google anything and there it is - in an ''infobox''! I don't know when this started to happen, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, but it mirrors a modern informational trend. (Does anyone study this? They should.) While 50 years ago readers would go to an encyclopedia and read ''prose'', now most readers look for information quickly presented in a table or box, with an article alongside, especially younger readers. - Anyway I could write a dissertation on this. But I detest those infobox arguments that so quickly become hostile and mean. Most editors here are good people and better than that. Sometimes, on this issue, I feel like Arjuna on the field of battle in the Bhagavad Gita. I will not contribute to the nastiness. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
:: Thank you for thoughtful pondering, but I'm afraid I was not clear with the question. I was shocked by ''the edit'', and want to know what others think. Perhaps you have thoughts for that as well? I was determined to miss out the Mozart RfC - as I did for the last one, even apologizing that I wasn't willing. On the talk, I showed up:
::* [[Talk:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart/Archive 13|2017]]: "a bit of history"
::* [[Talk:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart/Archive 14|2018]]: "to stay away may be more productive"
::* [[Talk:Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart/Archive 15#Infobox 1|2022]]: "I stayed away for the last discussions for Mozart, as a complete waste of my limited time."
:: On this background: I don't get over the "invitation". I have no way to understand it as humourous (although I have the feeling that was an intention). - I fear I have to say something now, to not let it stand (and written by a user I highly respect, - we even wrote [[Requiem (Fauré)|articles together]]). But what? A long essay about the history will not be heard, nor a plea for peace. (I [[User:Gerda Arendt/ACE 2022|asked the arb candidates]] if we still had infobox wars, and they didn't see them.) What do you think of a short version?
:: '''[[Clara Schumann|Support]]''' --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:19, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
::Hi Antandrus. A little parable about boxes and such… Twenty-three years ago I and five of my colleagues at the university were commissioned by a well-known British publisher to write an elementary textbook on sociololinguistics. We were horrified that we would be required to have “Key Points” boxes in the upper right corner of each section. “No No”, we cried. “The lazy students won’t truly engage with our magnificent prose. Oversimplification. Blah Blah.” Well, the publishers said many studies show that this what students want and this is what we’re going to give them. So we did. The book was a big success and is now in its 5th edition. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 17:19, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
:: today we [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Max Reger 150|remember the 150th birthday of Max Reger]], who saw the horrors of a world war right when it began in 1914, while others were still in high patriotic moods --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Ah, I have a soft spot for Max Reger. Played his clarinet quintet once (first violin). Did not realize that he wrote a piece (''Die Toteninsel'') based on Böcklin's famous painting; of course everyone knows the version by Rachmaninoff. Have to find a recording of that now - curious. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
:::: Reger's Böcklin in an organ version was featured in the first concert of [[Reger-Chor]]. - [[Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1|BWV 1]] today, and new pics, more of them tomorrow --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:04, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
:::: sharing impressions from vacation on Madeira 20-30 March, pics now at 24 Mar from the peaks - the RfC with the non-neutral invitation to fight was closed, and went rather peacefully - what can we learn from it? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:27, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

== April songs ==
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My story today is about the [[Alchymic Quartet]], - I went away from DYK but it's the last one from last year. - The songs are about vacation, continued. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:33, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

I made an exception from my DYK abstinence for Good Friday, - see my story today. I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#7 Apr|sang]], including chorales from [[St Matthew Passion|Bach's greatest Passion]]. I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#11 Mar|recently listened]] to [[Passions (Homilius)|one by Homilius]]: a discovery! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:27, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
:Ah, excellent! - coincidentally (or maybe not, given the calendar) I am right now, at this very second, listening to the St Matthew Passion (John Eliot Gardiner recording). :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:46, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
:: Thank you for listening. I was able to add a hiking day to the images (getting-wet-day). Will sing tonight and the Vierne mass tomorrow. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
:: I loved to see [[Marian Anderson]] and her story of protest against discrimination by singing on Easter Sunday 9 April 1939 on the Main page yesterday. Impressions of Easter [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2023#9 Apr|here]] and music [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Easter 2023|here]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
:: My story today, [[Messiah (Handel)]], was [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Messiah (Handel)/archive1|my first dip into the FA ocean]], thanks to great colleagues. - a few pics added, one day missing --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:42, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
:: I added, finally ;) - today's stories are about [[Johanna Geisler]] and [[Huub Oosterhuis]], a singer and a songwriter. More [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Johanna Geisler|here]] if you have time. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#20 Apr|Today]] is the 80th birthday of [[John Eliot Gardiner]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
:: Today is the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious#Antandrus|11th anniversary]] of me noticing your broad perspective, - let's celebrate. [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#28 Apr|Today's story]] is all about memory, [[User:Gerda Arendt/Top list#27 Apr|yesterday's]] was more romantic, violin playing pictured. Look at the composer, do you see what I see? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#6 May|Misatango coming up for me]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:58, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

== Project duck ==

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This IP looks an awful lot like Project based on today's [[Talk:The Death of Stalin]] edits. ~ [[User:Pbritti|Pbritti]] ([[User talk:Pbritti|talk]]) 18:04, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
:You are correct, thank you - I protected the talk page for a while. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 18:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

== Another appearance of the globally banned user? ==
See these diffs ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Cambodian_genocide&diff=prev&oldid=1153427549], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Cambodian_genocide&diff=prev&oldid=1153429681]) at [[Cambodian genocide]]. Regards, [[User:TheTimesAreAChanging|TheTimesAreAChanging]] ([[User talk:TheTimesAreAChanging|talk]]) 23:04, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
:Yes - good catch. Absolutely. It takes a village. Or a dedicated team of watchers. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:08, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

== You've got mail ==

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== May songs ==
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I had [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 May|a good story on coronation day]]: a Te Deum we sang that day. And the following day we sang it for the composer ;) - And [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 May|today]] we remember a composer who created music especially for us! -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:57, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
:Indeed, a good story! - I have a bandoneon myself, manufactured in Saxony in the 1860s, brought over by an ancestor, who used to play transcriptions of the German orchestral repertoire to homesick immigrants in a large US city in the age before recordings. Some of the notes still work, but I'd love to get it rebuilt. The way the buttons are arranged works better for Joseph Lanner than Schoenberg, I have to say. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:53, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
:: thank you! - more pleasant music - just heard! - if you click on songs - did you know a string quartet with two cellos? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:21, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
:: and now May scenery pictured when you click on songs, - scroll up if you missed the chamber music --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:11, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:: Pentecost was [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music|full of music]], and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#30 May|my story today]] is that 300 years ago today, Bach became Thomaskantor, with [[Die Elenden sollen essen, BWV 75|BWV 75]], writing music history. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

== Inquiry ==

Mind keeping an eye on a page for me? Ljupco's taken interest in [[Talk:Stalinism (disambiguation)]] and I'm going to have too much stuff on my plate IRL to risk any Wikipedia soon, if not by tomorrow than certainly by midweek.

I don't see much value in protection as disruption will just continue on other pages and given that this target has extremely limited visibility may actually be counterproductive, but I'll defer to your judgement on that one, given your extensive experience with the case. [[Special:Contributions/74.73.224.126|74.73.224.126]] ([[User talk:74.73.224.126|talk]])


Edit requested on [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Edit&diff=prev&oldid=1154808012 RFPP]. Copied. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 20:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

:Thank you both - will do. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 20:31, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

== Abuser ==
[[Special:Contributions/177.221.8.205]] Ban evasion, personal attacks [[Special:Contributions/2600:8801:1CA7:5600:B9A9:8638:9EDD:AB76|2600:8801:1CA7:5600:B9A9:8638:9EDD:AB76]] ([[User talk:2600:8801:1CA7:5600:B9A9:8638:9EDD:AB76|talk]]) 16:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
:Thank you! - [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:14, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

== June songs ==
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I like [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 June 2|today's Main page]], and [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Kölner Domchor|here's why]] ;) - (DYK that we [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj453qQAxls got filmed] when performing the piece mentioned) -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:56, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Last weekend [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2023#3 Jun|was nice]], class reunion a funny number of years after completing school, and the lovely park where I spent many Sundays as a child. [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#5 Jun|Today's story]] is quite dramatic, there's a yt trailer to the hook. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#11 Jun|11 June]] or: Music not only by Bach --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:05, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

[[Jörg Widmann]] is 50 today, and I began Stockholm pics. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:52, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Today's story is about [[Gabriele Schnaut|a singer]] whom I saw twice, not Wagner and Strauss, but Bach and Weill - more vacation pics! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Today, the story is ten years old, the Main page had three great people who recently died, and I invite you to look [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music|at two videos around concerts I heard]], in the short one actually seen in the background. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:34, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
:Hi {{ping|Gerda Arendt}} - an aside: I just wanted to say how much I appreciate how good you are at [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eimaivault&diff=prev&oldid=1162024180 helping newcomers]. I don't have as much patience as you do, especially for people who show up with relatively new accounts and promptly start edit-warring - I was about to leave a "lecturing" note but your approach is more more in keeping with our original wiki spirit.
:For what it's worth I no longer oppose infoboxes. Was kicking around ideas for an essay on this. Fifteen years ago they were terrible, with things like boxes designed for popular music and rock stars jammed into composer articles - but something interesting, but not unexpected, has happened; they've refined. They're better. And also, they're part of the scenery so that when one is missing, it feels jarring. I too have gotten into the habit of glancing at an infobox to see in an instant things like age-at-death, place of birth, a link to a list of works. Curious, isn't it. Twenty years after my first edit (as an anon) Wikipedia continues to improve. Thank you for being one of the people helping it do so. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:26, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
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:: That's a lovely way to celebrate an anniversary, - congratulations. My editing anniversary is in August, but when I started you and the other pioneers had done much of the groundwork, - thank you - all. - About a newcomer edit-warring: it's like a child, "I am right, and you are not". And for many things that is even the right attitude, and it's a fine line to the other. To expect that someone doesn't edit war who has never even be welcomed is asking too much ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 05:52, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
:: adding a celebratory image - I'm the one in yellow - imagine me applauding you ;) - (I came to sit next to the woman who directs the Telemann Society in Hamburg, and more or less behind the recipients of the first Abel Prize, in the first concert of the first Abel Fest in the mirror hall of [[Schloss Köthen]], which looked different when Bach was engaged there, 1717 to 1723.) - I invite you to gnomishly change infobox musical artist to infobox person anytime you see it for people in classical music. They are also people ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:46, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#29 Jun|Today]]: a woman caught by the iron curtain (improved with SusunW and GRuban), yesterday: the [[Mass in B minor structure|Mass in B minor]], heard in concert then, [[user talk:Gerda Arendt#Music videos|three musical videos are out]], and the rest of the vacation pics is now there. - Perhaps you want to talk to the second Beethoven warrior? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:37, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
=== July music ===
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 Jul|My story today]] pictures a friend whose birthday is today ;) - we met at the fancy place pictured above (which looked different when Bach played there). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Finally: June pictures updated, with three great RMF concerts! - My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#12 Jul|story today]] is very personal: the DYK appeared on Wikipedia's 15th birthday, and describes a concert I sang. I was requested to translate the bio into German for a memorial concert ... - see [[User talk:Gerda Arendt/2016#Frank Stähle|background]], and we talked about life and death. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

[[Rhein in Flammen|Fireworks on the Rhine]] pictured on 1 July, but the real stars were sun and moon. I love [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#15 Jul|today's story]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:48, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Today, I remember [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Jul|Reger's Requiem]], and our choirs' jubilee 2 weeks ago. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:38, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

:Underrated composer; we hardly ever hear his music in the US (oh look, we discussed him briefly above). I like a lot of that turn-of-the-century and somewhat more recent music. Are you familiar with [[Egon Wellesz]]'s work? It has a lot of subtlety but seems to be somewhat neglected, but maybe in Germany not so much? [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:04, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
:: "Familiar" would be saying too much, - I just know he existed, and I may have heard chamber music but not to a lasting impression, while singing that Requiem - the premiere of the organ version - made a lasting impression. Someone - forgot who - pointed out that Reger - while others were enthusiastic about the War - thought immediately about those who would die, and wrote pieces, more or less complete, dedicated to their memory. And then he died. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
:: On [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 July 18|today's Main page]], you can find [[Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz, BWV 136|a cantata that Bach first performed 300 years ago]], and [[Ernst-Ludwig Petrowsky|an iconic saxophonist]] from East Germany. Also: a bit about the history of QAI on my talk. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:27, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

While today's DYK highlights [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 July 25|Santiago on his day]], I did my modest share with [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#25 Jul|my story today]], describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:05, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
:Coincidentally a bunch of my friends are doing / have done the Camino this year - I have been tempted to go myself. Sometimes you need to get up and stretch, you know? There's so much more to life than the screens we all stare at much of the day. Glad to see you are having a good and productive summer! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:18, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
:: I know people who walked the Camino, and coincidentally one of them sat right behind me in the concert. I've seen passages of it, and some really take patience and endurance. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
:: ... which takes me [[Jahrhundertring]] (written in defiance in 2013), and I'm listening to [[Götterdämmerung]] from the Bayreuth Festival, close to the scene pictured, - the image (of a woman who can't believe what she has to see) features also on the article talk. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

== Pinduoduo article help? ==

Hi, I’m an employee of Pinduoduo, one of the largest companies in Asia. I posted a proposal to make some updates about the company at [[Talk:Pinduoduo#Fixing problems with NPOV and PROMOTIONAL language]] on the Pinduoduo Talk page, but there hasn’t been any discussion so far. I was wondering if you as a member of the Companies WikiProject might be willing to take a look at the proposal? Thanks very much. [[User:Snowy2000|Snowy2000]] ([[User talk:Snowy2000|talk]]) 15:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

== August music ==
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Aug|Today's music]] is played by my brother's orchestra, conducted by two very young men on their way up, - the picture was taken shortly after the invasion of Ukraine began, - more detail on my talk. Images reached the day of the [[Tenebrae (choir)|Tenebrae]] concert mentioned in July. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#7 Aug|My story today]] - a first - isn't about an article by me, but one I reviewed for DYK, [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 August 7|see here]]. I like all: topic, "hook", connected article (a GA on its way towards FA), image and the music "in the background". I just returned from a weekend of weddings, so also like the spirit ;) - Pics to come, I promise one cake, the other was too large! [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#4 Aug|Good music]], and better even in the concert ending the second day, - [[Goldberg Variations]] theme for an encore, after Dohnányi [[Serenade in C major|Serenade]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Again not by me: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Aug|today's story]] - with the triumph of music over military - is uplifting! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:17, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Now: picture of heart-shaped cake(s) uploaded! - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Aug|Today's story]] is about a tenor, - why his roles are not linked on the Main page remains a mystery to me. Today is also the birthday of the [[Bayreuth Festival]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:30, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

:Ah wonderful! - and by a neat coincidence (that's not the first time) I am, at this very moment, listening to Tristan und Isolde (the Margaret Price/Rene Kollo/Kleiber recording). - Did you notice the minor kerfuffle on the Chopin page? It's always struck me as amusing that Wikipedia's most unpleasant arguments are often over the most trivial of nits, like whether or not to include a [[article no one dares link to|link]]. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:34, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
:: I noticed Chopin, and a similar exchange was on Mendelssohn. I tried to be fair to Cosima, but was reverted. I asked a year ago or so if we really need another RfC, and thought that after Mozart and Wagner, certainly not. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:25, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
::: An essay would be fun - [[Wikipedia:Request for Drama]]. If I pour myself some fire-water I might get in the mood, ha ha ha. I try to let the little stuff go. My personal peeve is tag-bombers, especially those who strafe articles I wrote 18 years ago before we had footnoting, demanding cites for absolutely everything - and to supply them I'd have to go to a library and find all the books again. But in the bigger scheme of things, that too is little stuff. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:42, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
:::: ha ha ha - I requested drama by asking on [[Richard Wagner]] if his wife might deserve a place in the article before being first mentioned as the wife of a conductor he worked with. - "Tempter" remained unlinked for the rest of the night, yes, small stuff, but why even talk so much about so small stuff. It was linked when approved, then the promoter cut it out completely, brought it back but without link, - they could have just left it as it was. Now I'm blamed for having asked the wrong place, ha ha ha --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:07, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
:::: One more day uploaded, with another wedding cake - I couldn't resist. [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Aug|Today's story]] is about the [[Inkpot Madonna]] who returned to "her place" 9 years ago, and also has aspects of early learning, [[User talk:Gerda Arendt/2014#August 2014|remember]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:21, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
:::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#17 Aug|Today]] is the anniversary of the premiere of [[Götterdämmerung]]. [[Berit Lindholm]] sang its final scene in concert at the [[Royal Festival Hall]] in London, only four years after her stage debut in a Mozart opera in Stockholm. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:21, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:::: Today I heard a delightful concert, [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images#19 Aug|"Himmlische Freuden"]], remembered having heard [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#19 Aug|Vilde Frang]] ([[Violin Concerto No. 1 (Bruch)|Bruch concerto]], in Zürich, with my brother's orchestra) , and succeeded in preparing [[Renata Scotto]]'s article enough for the Main page (which took two days). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
:::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 Aug|Today is Debussy's birthday]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
::::: It is indeed! - Traveling at the moment, through the great American Outback, where that name is little known, but soon I shall be among people who not only know the name but revere the music. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#26 Aug|Today is Gwendolyn Killebrew's birthday]], - pictured: a spider and sweet food --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::: [[This too shall pass (composition)|This too shall pass]]. - Ten years ago on [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#28 Aug|28 August]], I heard a symphony, with a heavy heart because of the pending decision in [[WP:ARBINFOBOX]], and not worried about my future here but Andy's. - It passed, and I could write the DYK about calling to dance, not battle, and Andy could write the DYK mentioning about peace and reconciliation, - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images#28 August 2013|look]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:06, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
::::::: Hi [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda]] - sorry I have not kept up - I have been traveling and only very occasionally looking at the wiki-world. It is very interesting to do something completely different for a while, and then look again at our curious little universe of online personalities and articles, where the conflicts can seem sub-microscopic to outsiders, or even ourselves, but yet the product has an enormous importance, maybe bigger than we even realize. I had the disorienting but pleasant experience recently of hearing my own words coming back at me from a radio announcer on a 'classical' radio station, as the announcer read part of an article I had written. Those small things can make it all worthwhile, I tell you. Or - "there's this strange composer, do you know his work? I found an article on Wikipedia about him, of all places, ..." I smiled. Why, I wrote it myself. Anonymously. These are good things. Arbcom decisions this way or that - whatever. Life goes on. Do good work, no matter what. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
:::::::: Thank you, and I try, but some day it's harder, - see my talk about the soprano pictured on the main page with a hook - well, let's be polite and say nothing. Hopefully it will draw some readers in that otherwise wouldn't come, and an estimated 80% will just come by the image, I'm sure. - I had an effect as you described on radio, when a program book had not only my text for a Christmas cantata by Graham Waterhouse, but also for the Bach cantata combined with it, taken from Wikipedia. - Arbcom: I described the situation in detail to Dr. Blofeld: it was about banning a productive content editor, "that way", and I trembled for days, and it mattered. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:34, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

== [[Reeve (surname)]] ==

Hi, I didn't catch the vandalism in time for your talk page. Just for my future reference, is this an LTA issue? When reporting to AIV I like to add LTA/sock details so it's easier for blocking admins to see what it's in reference to. Thanks, [[User:Knitsey|Knitsey]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|talk]]) 16:07, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

:{{tps|v}} see [[WP:LTA/GRP]] [[Special:Contributions/74.73.224.126|74.73.224.126]] ([[User talk:74.73.224.126|talk]]) 16:09, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
::That's great, thanks ip (sorry about the revert) [[User:Knitsey|Knitsey]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|talk]]) 16:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:::No worries, it happens. [[Special:Contributions/74.73.224.126|74.73.224.126]] ([[User talk:74.73.224.126|talk]]) 16:19, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

:(ec) Hi [[User:Knitsey|Knitsey]] - yes, that was an LTA ([[WP:LTA/Wikinger|this one]]). His peculiarity is that he imitates other LTAs, in this case [[WP:LTA/GRP]]. Thanks for your help! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
::My understanding is that since they began sharing (or compromising) each others passwords, they're essentially indistinguishable to all but the most dedicated of sock taxonomists. And that both of them are also often imitated in turn, since [[WP:RBI]] applies regardless it really doesn't matter. [[Special:Contributions/74.73.224.126|74.73.224.126]] ([[User talk:74.73.224.126|talk]]) 16:19, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
::Lovely, thank you both. I've added them both to my list. [[User:Knitsey|Knitsey]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|talk]]) 16:20, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

== September music ==

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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#2 Sep|Our festival's last concert]] was most moving and inspiring, and there are seconds of it - plus glimpses of an interview with the conductor, age 96 - in [https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/heute-journal/rheingau-festival-rekord-100.html this tv summary]. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:37, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Now pics around that memorable concert, and the [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#11 Sep|story of Walter Arlen]], - proud that I survived the decision in [[WP:ARBINFOBOX]] for 10 years, [[User talk:Gerda Arendt/2013#Stand and sing|standing and singing]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#12 Sep|Today's story]] is about a great pianist with an unusual career, taking off when he was 50. It's the wedding anniversary of [[Clara Schumann|Clara]] and [[Robert Schumann]], but I was too late with [[Myrthen|our gift]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:30, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Today I remember [[Raymond Arritt]], who still helps me, five years after he died, per what he said in my darkest time on Wikipedia (placed in my edit-notice as a reminder), and by [[User talk:Shock Brigade Harvester Boris#Impact|teh rulez]]. - Latest pics from a weekend in Berlin (one more day to come). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#29 Sep|story today]] is [[The Company of Heaven]] ("company" with a double meaning, but angelic company in the end). - No new pictures yet, it's a week with [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#29 Sep|concert or opera]] every night! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:20, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – September 2023 ==

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== October music ==
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My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 Oct|story today]] is sad but great. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

A few more pics, and see my talk for what [[Tabea Zimmermann]] played ([[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 Oct|today's story]] on her birthday): I heard it, and it's on YouTube. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

More pics, and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#17 Oct|today's story]] is on a birthday, and the real DYK was already on that birthday --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

[[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music]] keeps track of "my" music and memories, and just today I have a juxtaposition of music performed by the two church choirs in town, one I sang in and one where I listened, to music about love, evening and night. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:48, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Today, it's a place that inspired me, [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Hans Steinbrenner (sculptor)|musings]] if you have time. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

A few more pics - caution: hornet. - Could you perhaps check the nomination of [[Carmen Petra Basacopol]] for RD, [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#October 16|here]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

She is [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#24 Oct|today's topic]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#29 Oct|thought of Brian Bouldton today]], and [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Brian Boulton and the ways to compromise|his ways to compromise]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

== November thanks ==
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| image = Bittersweet, Mohegan Lake.jpg
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Thank you noticing [[Hevenu shalom aleichem]], - my [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Nov|story today]]. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

:Yes. Of particular significance at the moment. This is all so distressing. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 20:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
:: I agree. - I added some images from [[Aachen]] = medieval history. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:47, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:: More pics from the trip, - and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#4 Nov|my story today]] is about my song of defiance, - it was a great pleasure to hear it performed today! The line "Ich steh hier und singe" ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt/2013#Stand and sing|I stand here and sing]]) is in the movement [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#4 Nov|with the music pictured]], which begins with "Trotz -- Trotz -- Trotz", sounding much tougher than "defiance" ;) - in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swz759w1_PA this YouTube] it's at 4:55. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:01, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:: Performers of the [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#4 Nov|4 Nov concert]] now pictured on my talk. - I proudly remember having sung in an oratorio premiere seven years ago [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 Nov|OTD]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:: More, if you like: today I have [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#7 Nov|three items on the Main page]], almost too much of a good thing! Bach's [[O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60|amazing cantata]] with the unusual scale, first performed 300 years ago OTD, the [[Lea Ackermann|nun for the prostitutes]], and Schumann's [[Myrthen|wedding gift]] for Clara. Also first day of vacation pics uploaded. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#11 Nov|Today is St. Martin's Day]], which stands for sharing. Sharing one more day of vacation ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:43, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Ah splendid, share and share again. :) I've played the Verdi Requiem, as an orchestral first violinist (not that easy a part) but what a thrill. You feel like you are participating in the Apocalypse. Maybe if you get it right, it will actually happen. (Russian composer and mystic [[Nikolai Obukhov]] believed that if he composed perfectly enough, he'd bring about the Second Coming. I think he left out an accidental or two.) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
:::: Probably ;) - My first encounter with the Verdi (besides listening to others) was a Summer Sing-along, and the Earth seemed to move in Libera me when I tried to sight-read. The second was listening to a Tanglewood rehearsal, [[Christoph Eschenbach]] conducting, and I had a child with me whose head was suddenly on my lap when the Dies Irae began. Then singing with rehearsals - pictured. Then singing once more with a COVID-appropriate small ensemble, marimba and such. I forgot a brief encounter with Eschenbach after he conducted Bruckner's Sixth in Rome for the Pope, the Bishops' Conference and some like me and my friends (who were in town in 2008 to sing Haydn and Vivaldi in concert the previous day), wanted to fill [[Basilica of Saint Paul Outside the Walls|the hall]] to improve the accoustics. I told him that I liked his Verdi in T., and he smiled and said "Ich auch." - Mozart in concert at the pictured place coming soon. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:35, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
:::: I began another day of vacation pics, with the deepest blue of the sea ;) - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#14 Nov|we celebrate]] the birthday of a friend who wrote quite a book about the compositions of a man who will turn 300 soon. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:06, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
:::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#21|My story today]] is - repeated - a DYK hook from 13 years ago OTD: about the great music at one of my churches. Mozart's [[Requiem (Mozart)|Requiem]] to come on Sunday, coupled with Arvo Pärt's [[Da pacem Domine (Pärt)|Da pacem Domine]], - I guess you might come if it was a bit closer. Perhaps watch the video of our last production, our first on yt, ever. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
:::: ... and it was good, [[User Talk:Gerda Arendt#Mozart Requiem]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:38, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
:::: in memoriam [[Jerome Kohl]] who said ([[User talk:Jerome Kohl/Archive 6#In Freundschaft|In Freundschaft]]): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together" --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

== [[The Morgan Hill Times]] ==

Your six-month protection just ended and the LTA is back [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=The_Morgan_Hill_Times&diff=prev&oldid=1183851854] [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 22:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:Actually the second time... already blocked once. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 22:19, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::Damn that person is persistent. - Protected again for six months; will extend if necessary. Thanks - [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Dec|Today's story]] is about [[Maria Callas]], on her centenary. - [[Aaron Copland]] died OTD, and [[User talk:Jerome Kohl|Jerome Kohl]] said something wise on his talk. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:07, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

A [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#3 Dec|new church year began]], - a [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Happy new era|new era]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:56, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#4 Dec|Today's story]] is about parts of my life. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Today, I managed to get the pics to snow (on 28 Nov), and heard [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#8 Dec|a lovely concert]], after listening to [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2023#6 Dec|a miracle of meditative dreaming]] on 6 December (or just click on music). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:48, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

... and today, to Paris (29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Dec|the story]] of [[Medea Amiranashvili]], - don't miss listening to [[User talk:GRuban#Medea Amiranashvili|her expressive voice]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Dec|story today]] is about [[Michael Robinson (rabbi)|Michael Robinson]], - it's an honor to have known him. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Today, I have [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 Dec|a special story to tell]], of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:28, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#24 Dec|Christmas music pictured]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:30, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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== 2024 ==
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'''[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories|Happy]] [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024|New]] [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024|Year]]'''

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Same location pictured as 2019. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new [[Catalogue of Works of Carl Friedrich Abel|catalogue of his works]] was introduced, - my [[User:Gerda Arendt/Story list#5 Jan|story today]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

I have a "DYK" today, but [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#12 Jan|my story]] would be different, about [[Le nozze di figaro|Figaro]], - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwP1MD8gyaA this Figaro]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:00, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

:Would love to see that production! I'm going to see a Don Giovanni soon, but have been hoping for a local Figaro. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 18:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
:: Come any time! - On the Main page: [[Thomas Fritzsch|the person]] who [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Jan|made the pictured festival possible]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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:: Today [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#30 Jan|a friend's birthday]], with related music and new vacation pics --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Administrators' newsletter – February 2024 ==

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* Following a [[Special:Permalink/1193639157#Motion: Reliable source consensus-required restriction|motion]], the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
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== LA Meetup: February 17, 2024 ==

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We'll also be celebrating Wikipedia's 23rd birthday/Wikipedia Day. (There will be cake!)

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== February music ==
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My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#4 Feb|calendar story today]] is about [[Michael Herrmann]] celebrating his birthday. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

same kind of birthday for [[Josef Protschka]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

::Oh wow - that's the boy's voice? Love that piece. I have certainly tried to imitate parts of it in my own work now and again. - Just got back from the San Diego Opera production of Don Giovanni, by the way. Very moving. Modern staging, on a limited budget (as it often is). How it is possible to be a scoundrel with a heroic and defiant end. Much to think about, and we were out carousing afterwards, but no trap doors opened with demons to drag us down to the underworld; we just went home and fell asleep. So it goes in life. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::: thank you - haven't seen Don Giovanni in ages, but Figaro - new GMD chose that for his debut at [[Oper Frankfurt]], also playing piano-forte, and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwP1MD8gyaA a playful staging for many laughs] - and [[Ascanio in Alba]], interesting modern staging but more interesting singing (article about protagonist begun yesterday). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:04, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
::: Today I am happy about [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#7 Feb|a singer]] on [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 February 7|the Main page]] (at least for the first hours), after [[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 February 7|TFA the same day last year]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
::: [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#ITN recognition for Seiji Ozawa|Thanks]] to [[Seiji Ozawa]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
::: ... and today [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Feb|a woman and her views]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::: ... and for Valentine's Day an invitation to [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Feb|the theatre]] where they first played [[Elegy for Young Lovers]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
::: The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and [[User talk:Vami IV#Rose of missing|Vami_IV]], a friend here. Listen to [[Music of Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky|music by Tchaikovsky]] (an article where [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Milashkina|one of the four]] is pictured), [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogfi4R0529Q sung by today's subject] (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
::: Listen to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMuIv3ocl0Q music from Ukraine] if you like, - I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2022#November|heard it in 2022]], and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#23 Feb|sang in yesterday's]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:30, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
::: I'm sad that people die, subjects and in real life: [[User talk:Vami IV/Archive4|Vami_IV]], - that was a shock. - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#28 Feb|Today's story]], however, celebrates a woman's birthday. She sat right in front of me when I took the picture at a lovely concert, celebrating her son's 60th. I thought she was 90 today, - no, 91 already. You can listen, starting at [[String Sextet (Waterhouse)|the piece he dedicated to her, Op. 1]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:55, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
::: on [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#29 Feb|Rossini's rare birthday]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:05, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

== Masdar ==

Hi Antandrus. I noticed that you are a participant in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Energy#Participants|Wiki Project:Energy]], so perhaps you would be interested in adding the name of the CEO of [[Masdar]] to the company's Wiki page, according to the edit request I posted at [[Talk:Masdar#Add CEO to History]]. Thanks so much. [[User:GreenDrake28|GreenDrake28]] ([[User talk:GreenDrake28|talk]]) 10:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 15:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi again Antandrus. Could you kindly have a look at a more recent edit request I posted at [[Talk:Masdar#Project_Inclusion,_Revised]]. If you feel the requested edits improve the article, I would appreciate if you could implement. Thanks so much. [[User:GreenDrake28|GreenDrake28]] ([[User talk:GreenDrake28|talk]]) 12:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
:Greetings - responded there. I'll add the section(s) relatively soon. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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==Sock?==
Might be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/1241 good faith, but seems very suspicious]. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 19:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:Hi Jamie - my feeling is not either the usual LTA on that page, or the one for whom the filter was designed. Stylistic reasons. Thanks for noticing! I rather wish we had a separate ping for filter hits (maybe there is one in preferences somewhere I never noticed). [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 19:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:: Ok, agree that style is very different, but the hits about that topic on your talk page caught my eye. One of these days I'm going to figure out a way to get push notifications from my filters (maybe Discord?) Cheers, <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 20:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

== March music ==
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in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#7 Mar|such as this]] -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

... and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Mar|the premiere of Nabucco]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:54, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

... and of Rossini's [[Petite messe solennelle]], [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#14 Mar|on 14 March 1864]], - when I [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaLcLLvPys8 listen to the desolate Agnus Dei] I think of [[User talk:Vami IV#Rose of missing|Vami_IV]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

:I love his late music - if anything I think the "Sins of old age" are greatly underrated. He went through such a tough patch before coming back to Paris. We all need to go back to Paris now and then, so to speak. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:: I once sang it one my birthday, in a small group with three altos, - a wonderful experience. Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Mar|Aribert Reimann remembered]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:38, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
:: Next day, around [[Porto da Cruz]], on [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#21 Mar|Bach's birthday]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
:: a few new pics, and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#26 Mar|two people for DYK]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:: some more pics - look for a bird! - I [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Good Friday|listen to Bach's St John Passion today]], - 300 years after it was first performed. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:: Two days later in time, [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Easter Sunday|a different music]], - Happy Easter! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

== Just wanted to say thank you ==

for all the hard work over the years! [[Special:Contributions/2600:1002:B026:1635:0:4F:148B:F001|2600:1002:B026:1635:0:4F:148B:F001]] ([[User talk:2600:1002:B026:1635:0:4F:148B:F001|talk]]) 05:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
:Thank you - appreciate it. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

== Concerto delle donne query ==

Hey there! Hope you're well—haven't spoken in a while! If your time and interest permits, I wondered whether you could took a look at the ''[[Concerto delle donne]]'' article. Its just gone through some changes/improvements [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Concerto delle donne/archive1|while at FAR]], and am wondering what else it could use/if there are issues. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 00:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
:Hi Aza! Excellent choice of topic. (I worked with [[User:Mindspillage]] on the original, but that was so long ago they were probably still singing.) I will look. As I'm sure you know, northern Italy at the very end of the 16th century was one of the best places to be a woman in music (in Europe anyway, and as long as you stayed away from axe murderers) for several hundred years. Fascinating and turbulent time; wouldn't it be fun to have a time machine and actually ''hear'' them? Reminds me that Luzzaschi was my first ever Wikipedia article, 2004. If I ever get around to it I'll go back and expand it. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you! It is indeed a fascinating social enclave or sorts—and yes, I'm sure they were incredible to hear live. Plus, full time choristers focused on new music? Sign me up. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 07:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – April 2024 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (March 2024).

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* An [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Converting all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure|RfC]] is open to convert all current and future [[WP:OLDDS|community discretionary sanctions]] to (community designated) [[WP:CTOP|contentious topics procedure]].
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* The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. ({{Phab|T313405}})
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*An [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management|arbitration case has been opened]] to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
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* Editors are invited to '''[[Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Entries|sign up]]''' for [[WP:The Core Contest|The Core Contest]], an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve [[Wikipedia:Vital articles|vital]] and other core articles on Wikipedia.
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== User Page ==

Hello,
<br> I am re-working my User Page and adore the design of yours. <br>I know that per CC, I can just use your user page design without permission, but I would like to make sure you are fine with it, first. <br>Are you fine wih me borrowing significantly from your User Page?<br> Thanks, [[User:Icandostuff|<span style="color:Red">I</span> <span style="color:Yellow">can</span> <span style="color:Lime">do</span> <span style="color:#00ffff">stuff</span><span style="color:Blue">!</span> ]] ([[User talk:Icandostuff|talk]]) 00:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:Icandostuff|Icandostuff]] - absolutely - no problem at all. Actually lots of people have borrowed the design (not by me, by the way - it was done by [[User:Phaedriel]] who used to design user pages, but she's long gone from Wikipedia). Have fun! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] <br>
::I was a bit confused by the mention of Phaedriel, as I assumed you based it off of her User Page, and not that she made it, but that makes much more sense. <br> [[User:Icandostuff|<span style="color:Red">I</span> <span style="color:Yellow">can</span> <span style="color:Lime">do</span> <span style="color:#00ffff">stuff</span><span style="color:Blue">!</span> ]] ([[User talk:Icandostuff|talk]]) 01:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
==Happy First Edit Day!==
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== Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society ==
[[File:Twenty Years Society (2019, square edit).svg|left|125px|link=Wikipedia:Twenty Year Society]] Dear {{PAGENAME}},

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the '''[[Wikipedia:Twenty Year Society|Twenty Year Society]]''', an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. &#x200B;

Best regards, [[User:The Herald|The Herald (Benison)]] ([[User talk:The Herald|talk]]) 01:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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:Yes! I do believe I will join. Thank you! - where has the time gone. I still remember a time when I'd tell someone I edited "Wikipedia" for fun, and they'd say - "what's that?" [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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:: Congratulations! Thank you for lasting contributions! - These little flowers are called Schlüsselblumen in German, which would be Key flowers, - they are mentioned in a recitative of the [[St John Passion structure|St John Passion]] as representing the key to heaven. (The premiere was 300 years ago this year, and I proposed to mention that on the Main page on Good Friday, but found no key to the hearts of those responsible, - if the premiere was on 7 April, it has to be on 7 April. I hope not.) Looking for keys elsewhere as well, for Copland and Vivaldi, for example. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
:: I like to see [[Appalachian Spring]] on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 April 2024|my story]]. How do you like the compromise in the composer's infobox? - How do you like the statue (look up places) - I was undecided so show three versions ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
::: Excellent! I love that piece, by the way. Have performed it multiple times (as a violinist); the most terrifying is the chamber version, because everything is so exposed, and it's easier than you might think to screw up all those meter changes. But it's so beautiful. - On another matter, I wish we had a better system for mental health care here in the United States. That person leaving the abusive obscenities has a severe and disabling disorder. Shouldn't say too much but I'm working off-wiki to get it to stop permanently. I don't want to hurt him, just put him somewhere he can get help. - We're getting a terrific bloom this year, because the rains came a little late, and the warm weather held off; I'll be doing some nature adventures in the coming couple weeks, and then off to the big city to see some operas. - Infoboxes look clean and presentable. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 18:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: Thank you! - Being your friend got me several entries on my talk here (revdel), more on my talk on Simple English (reverted) and today 2 emails. If I get more of the letter I'll disable email. Bloom is terrific here as well, pics to come. Did you see the little video at the end of my story today? Article needs support on [[WP:ITNN]], hint hint. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: Today I see [[Marian Anderson]] as [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories 2023|my top story]] (by NBC, 1939), and below three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:32, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#14 Apr|story today]] is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano [[Pretty Yende]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: followed by two birthdays in a row, and I prefer those (see my talk) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: images of a flock of sheep that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata [[Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:33, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#23 Apr|today]] a sad task - memory of [[Andrew Davis (conductor)|Andrew Davis]] - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: today you can look at the [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#28 Apr|last three stories]] or "music" on my talk: the same topics, [[Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine]], [[Samuel Kummer]] and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

==Happy Adminship Anniversary!==
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Thank you {{ping|The Herald}}! I had almost forgotten. Nineteen years in the fun zone. To anyone watching my page, thinking about becoming an admin: writing articles is considerably more fun. And frankly, anyone for whom blocking and banning are "fun" probably shouldn't be one. But I state the obvious. I think. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 04:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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:Thank you! Appreciate it. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

== A goat for you! ==

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loved ur userpage!

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:Thank you! I love goats. We use them where I live to clear vegetation before the fire season. I feed them oranges. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

== Likely "Projects" hit ==

Quack. {{noping|ArticleImproved }} created to restore [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Halloween&diff=prev&oldid=1220939436] a NOTAFORUM page edit edit by two IPs. One of the IPs is already blocked as a proxy, and earlier made a NOTAFORUM edit to a boxing talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Clarence_Henry_(boxer)&diff=prev&oldid=1220831988] that mentioned Marciano, and was referenced to an archive of an earlier boxing edit. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 22:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
:Forgot to mention that one of the supposed sources for the first talk page edits is also a diff to an old talk apge edit on WikiNews. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 22:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
::Sorry, I'm traveling and not checking in as often - looks like someone else took care of that one. Thanks for following up. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 07:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – May 2024 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (April 2024).

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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Phase I of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review|2024 requests for adminship review]] has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 3b: Make the first two days discussion-only (trial)|creating a discussion-only period]] (3b) and [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 13: Admin elections|administrator elections]] (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I#Proposal 2: Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA|creating a reminder of civility norms]] (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I|full report]].

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* Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. [[phab:T280531|T280531]]

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* The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management|Conflict of interest management]]'' has been closed.

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* This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
* A [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024|'''New Pages Patrol backlog drive''']] is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the [[Special:NewPagesFeed|new pages feed]]. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. [[Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Backlog drives/May 2024/Participants|'''Sign up here to participate!''']]
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== May music ==

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Thank you for the protection, - perhaps also watch talk archives? [[User talk:Gerda Arendt/2009]] - Some pics around the concert with the basses are your reward ;) -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:Ugggh, sorry about that, it's bad enough that he targets me (anywhere from 10 to 100 harassments per day, plus his endless attempts to guess my password) but that he spreads his hate to anyone who is friendly to me - I wish we had a better mental health care system here in the US to deal with the severely ill. I'm working with Chicago-area law enforcement to put a permanent end to this but it takes time. Ljupco, if you are reading this, and you always do, I know you cannot comprehend your own delusional psychosis, but you ought to stop harassing us now because we ''are'' going to stop you.
:Gerda, thank you for the pics and music as usual :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:: thank you - my brother is the one with the German name ;) - rehearsal for the Sunday Bach concert tonight!! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:: now archive 11 - perhaps protect them all? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:: Thank you! - On the bicentenary of Beethoven's [[Symphony No. 9 (Beethoven)|Ninth Symphony]], I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#5 May|in my concerts]] (leading to the two at the church's article). The closest was [https://www.wiesbadener-kurier.de/lokales/kreis-rheingau-taunus/idstein-kreis-rheingau-taunus/himmelfahrtsoratorium-in-der-katholischen-kirche-st-martin-3546272 in the paper]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 May|Today]] is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzbOSm_xj8w watch a bit] how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:: [[Magdalena Hinterdobler]] is on the Main page [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#10 May|today]], together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV4Zh41HgpE&t=344s listen and see]. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
:: did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#15 May|yesterday's story]] remembered an oratorio world premiere I was in, conducted by the composer --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
:: I heard [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#17 May|lovely chamber music today]], and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#17 May|the DYK]] mentions "profoundly human" singing (that you can watch), connected to a place where we'll sing in September --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
::: Wonderful, Gerda. - I recently heard a glorious performance of Madame Butterfly in San Diego. Had to laugh (as I always do) at how well Puccini captures an archetypal awful American character. Post-pandemic the audiences are coming back, which is good, but they're not taking the risks they did years ago: back around the time I first started editing Wikipedia we saw a Wozzeck there, and it's still one of the finest opera performances I've ever gone to. Up there with the Achim Freyer Ring in Los Angeles. Speaking of butterflies, it's May and I'm sore from working outside in the garden. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::: I wanted to improve [[Achim Freyer|Freyer]]'s article when I saw his version of [[Jephtha (Handel)|Jephtha]] in Wiesbaden. Help wanted ;) - Can you watch the DYK tenor, please? I just reverted nonsense, but need sleep. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
::::: Ok :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Thank you. - I liked seeing [[Erschallet, ihr Lieder]] on the Main page today, 310 years after the first performance! We sang it in 2000. [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#20 May|Today's program]] was easier but also spirited. I [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 May|found a nice video]] of "I will sing with the spirit", with nature photography, - enjoy. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 May|Today's story]] mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Today's story is my little contribution to Trinity Sunday, with a church named after the Trinity (which I'd have liked to see pictured, and what would be a good description of that kind of facade? "splendid" was reverted) and a cantata Bach conducted 300 years ago for the occasion (having composed it 9 years earlier). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::It ''is'' splendid, and that is the word I would use to describe it, but alas this is Wikipedia where we must be dull in our descriptions unless we quote, paraphrase, or break the rules. One of the reasons I've always avoided my primary expertise, e.g. late Beethoven, is I can't use the words I want to use to describe things, and always having to look up what other people have written becomes tedious. - Anyway, it is a splendid photograph of a splendid church on a splendid spring day with an adequate but adjective-free facade. I spent the morning polishing a couple pieces from the Das wohltemperierte Klavier, book I. It is my opinion, that I will not add to the article, that the E-flat minor prelude he wrote in mourning on the death of his first wife in 1720. Imagine returning from a long trip to discover this. Rhetorically the gestures resemble the D minor Chaconne, which uncoincidentally he wrote around the same time. - I have sinned and committed original research, but this is my talk page. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::: splendid, thank you! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::: 29 May 1913: [[The Rite of Spring]] - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#29 May|today's story]] - 2013 was when the article's infobox was discussed ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#30 May|Today's story]] is about [[Samuel Kummer]], one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::: last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

== 9/11 Discussion ==

Is there a way to bring my discussion thread regarding the info box photos on the September 11th talk page back to focus? The discussion that has been taking place for most of today has sent my thread pretty far back. I think it's important to come to a permanent consensus regarding the photos displayed on the September 11th page's info box. I would try to handle it myself, but I am afraid it'd be breaking Wikipedia's rules. [[User:Butterscotch5|Butterscotch5]] ([[User talk:Butterscotch5|talk]]) 17:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

:Hi [[User:Butterscotch5|Butterscotch5]] - I think that one will come back into focus as soon as the current kerfluffle over "Islamist" dies down. For what it's worth, consensus supports the previous images so they can be changed back any time (since no one else has come to support the change to the 'more violent' images). I'll probably do it myself after a day or two. Another thing you can do is just post a followup comment, e.g. "anyone else have an opinion about this?" [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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== June music ==
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#1 Jun|Today's story]] is about the TFA, by sadly missed [[User talk:Vami IV|Vami_IV]]. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to [[Schloss Köthen]] next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin [[#2024|the year]]. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#1 June|1 June]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Enjoy [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Jun|today's story]], related to my topic of the year: 300 years Bach's chorale cantatas, and the first was written for today, - listen to the music. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:Excellent! - I didn't know that. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:That's a lovely performance. Funny that "Donnerwort" sounds to me like a character from the Ring, maybe to come out and bang on something while a rainbow bridge goes up. One of my favorite cantatas, by the way. I revere that music so much I almost hesitate to say it. Just astonishing that it exists at all. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:: Thank you! - Donner means thunder, as you probably know. - I wanted it for the Main page, OTD, but they said, no, it can only appear 11 Jun (and I said no to that idea). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:: [[Franz Kafka]] died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of [[User talk:Graham87#May music|Graham87]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
:::A favorite writer of mine! When I took German in grad school I translated one of his short stories. - A lot of people miss just how funny he is, but admittedly his humor is not for all tastes, and his metaphors work on so many levels. If you read The Trial when you are very young, you may miss something that becomes clear to a more mature person: Joseph K. is guilty as hell. And some of his short stories are so strange they resist conventional interpretation completely. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 15:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
:::: Yes. - Today's story is about an extraordinary biography, [[Peter Demetz]], also from Prague. - I uploaded a few more pics but leave the link, because there's a new one of Graham and his mother who liked it. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
::::: New pics of spectacular weather, with Donner. Another interesting person: [[Alexander Lang]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::Wonderful! - here, the [[Ojai Festival]]; we're heading there shortly. I like living close to it. [[Mitsuko Uchida]] is director this year. Mozart, Schoenberg, [[Sofia Gubaidulina]], [[Kaija Saariaho]], lots of others. I wonder if I can get a decent picture of Mitsuko. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::: That would be lovely! - Today I wanted to write a happy song story, on a friend's birthday, but instead we have [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#11 Jun|the word of thunder]] on top of it. - The new lilypond - thanks to [[User:DanCherek|DanCherek]] - is quite impressive. As [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Jun|my 2 Jun story]] said: Bach was fired up. - [[WP:Main Page history/2024 June 11|Today's Main page]] is rich in music, also [[Franz Liszt]] and a conductor. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::: Today is "the day" for [[James Joyce]], also for Bach's [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Jun|fourth chorale cantata]] (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:17, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Perfect, just what I needed, thank you! - isn't the Netherlands Bach Society wonderful? They're among the best around. - Incidentally I recently finished reading ''[[Ulysses (novel)|Ulysses]]'' - my second time through cover to cover. Stunning book, and it made so much more sense to me than it did in my early 20s. (Actually some of the strangest and most powerful events are after midnight, i.e. 17 June. "The heaventree of stars hung with humid nightblue fruit." I love that book.) Carry on the good work Gerda, ignore the trolls and be grateful you do not suffer their afflictions. If I could snap my fingers and heal that guy's mental illness I would. - Nice cool day on the California coast and I think I'll go for a walk. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: Happy to have provided what you needed! I was asked when I read Ulysses through last time and had to say never. New pics of food and flowers come with [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#18 Jun|the story]] of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by [[User:Brianboulton|Brian Boulton]]. I nominated [[WP:ITNN#Éric Tappy|Éric Tappy]] because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated [[Tamara Milashkina|another women]] for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. - The pics at least have nightblue, but before midnight as the clock shows. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: Today we have [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Jun|a centenarian story]] (documentation about it by [[Percy Adlon]]) and [[Gerhard Klingenberg|an article that]] had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#24 Jun|Today]] is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that [[Jodie Devos]] had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#22 Jun|plenty of music]] sung and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:57, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#26 Jun|sad story today]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – June 2024 ==

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== July music ==
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The [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#1 Jul|story is today]] about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 May|blessed to hear]]. Listen, and perhaps read what [[Alma Mahler]] (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#2 Jul|Today's story]] is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

3 July is the birthday of [[Leoš Janáček]], and I'm happy I had [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#3 Jul|a meaningful DYK in 2021]]. It's also the birthday of [[Franz Kafka]], and I uploaded pics from his family's album [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024#27 Jun|seen in Berlin]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

[[Libuše Domanínská]], the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, [[Tamara Milashkina]] became GA and [[Lando Bartolini]] went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in [[Il tabarro]] in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to [[Statue of Liberty|Liberty]]) up to Calaf in [[Turandot]] in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of [[User talk:Brianboulton|Brian Boulton]] who was a pioneer of {{diff|Percyc Grainger|579193399||a concise infobox}} in 2013. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Pictured on the Main page: Brian's [[Mozart family grand tour]], my [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Jul|story today]], and [[Mozart]] related to three items of [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music|music]]: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, the bass and [[Liana Isakadze]], a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#11 Jul|Today's story]] is about an outstanding violinist from Georgia, which is a sad story in the end. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Jul|I remember today]] Bach's 1724 cantata for this Sunday which is unusual in many respects. Another woman needs attention for [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates|RD]], [[Marina Kondratyeva]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

She's on the Main page now. My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Jul|story today]] is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about [[Die Entführung aus dem Serail]], opera by [[Mozart]], while [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#15 Jul|yesterday's]] was - because of the TFA - about [[Les contes d'Hoffmann]], opera by [[Jacques Offenbach|Offenbach]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Yesterday I listened in concert to Mozart's [[Clarinet Quintet (Mozart)|Clarinet Quintet]], with [[Sabine Meyer]]: a delight, and very intimate ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTNbclgU3h4 yt with same people]). - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#19 Jul|Today's story]] is about [[Ruth Hesse]], with a pic in the article only, sadly. I found it difficult to point at a YouTube sample, because yes, her signature roles - the Nurse and Brangäne - exist in great full-length operas with great casts, but hard to find her. - Talking of YouTube: today I was pointed at [[Elijah (oratorio)|Elijah]] by a friend who performed in the concert of the [[Dessoff Choirs]] in their centenary year, and I'm quite impressed by samples (beginning and [[Wer bis an das Ende beharrt|No. 32]] where I linked it) - enjoy! --(forgot to sign)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Jul|Today's story]] is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially [[View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

... and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#21 Jul|today's story]] begins with [[Psalm 124]], paraphrased in 1524, and put to five (!) [[chorale setting]]s in 1724, for this Sunday. Nominated for GA. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Just a look at music (on my talk) shows remembrance of three people who died, and [[Sarah Gibson (composer)|creating an article]] or improving one is all I can do. Three are on the Main page today, and three others planned ... --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Another look at music: three women there. The Main page also has a [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] [[Symphony No. 40 (Mozart)|symphony I love]], and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#25 Jul|my story]] was connected not only to [[Max Reger]]'s death in 1916, remembered in 2016, but also the death of a friend who - and we around him - knew he was dying when he listened to the concert which was his last time leaving home, and music from [[Requiem (Reger)|Reger's Requiem]] was played for his funeral three months later. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

ps: per the same header, I was taken to the July entry 2023 - with the same music reflected ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

On Bach's day of death [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#28 Jul|my story]] is about his cantata [[Was frag ich nach der Welt, BWV 94]], although the article needs work. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 July 30b]] will have [[Jerzy Artysz|a baritone]], [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#30 Jul|a violinist]], a composer and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#21 Jul|a Bach cantata]], - almost too much, and the composer's article, [[Wolfgang Rihm]], should be better, help wanted. - Plenty of music on my parents anniversary day ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – July 2024 ==

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== reason for closing discussion ==

hi, why did you close my discussion here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
im not that blocked user - i have raised some valid arguments which not raised before
it shouldn't be closed. [[User:Gsgdd|Gsgdd]] ([[User talk:Gsgdd|talk]]) 06:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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== GRP reporting in steward requests/global ==

I’ve changed the paragraph to say that reporting GRP to SRG should be a last resort, since there’s an abuse filter that prevents this. However I’m not sure if you would recommend those instructions to people because 1. A lot of are used to SRG for reporting LTAs and 2. IRC isn’t easy for everyone to use the first time. What are your thoughts? [[User:Cyclonical|Cyclonical]] ([[User talk:Cyclonical|talk]]) 07:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:reporting accounts is fine. but reporting IPs to SRG is pointless since they become stale very quickly. That's why the filter exists. [[User:XXBlackburnXx|XXBlackburnXx]] ([[User talk:XXBlackburnXx|talk]]) 13:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
:Yes - report accounts, not IPs. There might be rare exceptions, but even the ones that geolocate to Chicago, ... um [[WP:BEANS]]. I'd say accounts only. - As an aside, on another LTA, I've noticed Wikinger is more active recently in both imitating GRP and pretending to fight him. In so doing he often refers to "w:pl:chicago" or "w:pl:boys" or some other shortcuts. Those are garbage - they are a confused mass of Wikinger's style and obsessions with an alleged origin in Chicago, and are meant to confuse us. I haven't looked through the history (in Polish) to see what is going on, but any time you see one of those shortcuts it's Wikinger cackling to himself about confusing us. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:53, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
::Got it. I've copy-edited the paragraph a bit. I noticed that Wikinger usually targets the plwiki pretty often while GRP targets the users he doesn't really like. It's honestly sad if I have to say so myself. [[User:Cyclonical|Cyclonical]] ([[User talk:Cyclonical|talk]]) 22:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Agreed there. (They're both, um, ... unwell. I shouldn't speculate on their exact mental disorders but can't help myself, maybe out of a mix of amusement and pity. Or maybe I'm just a terrible person. Wikinger's characteristic [[clanging]] says something.) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
::::I mean - the things they do really give me the impression that they are, well, unwell. That doesn't make you a terrible person. I don't think any "normal", or let's say, other person, would disrupt an encyclopedia for like over 15 years. Very clearly, something has be going on with them that just makes them persist and persist with what they're doing, even if it's for amusement or pity. I can't help but speculate about their mental disorders as well. [[User:Cyclonical|Cyclonical]] ([[User talk:Cyclonical|talk]]) 23:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::He's been so quiet lately. Sudden change of heart? [[User:XXBlackburnXx|XXBlackburnXx]] ([[User talk:XXBlackburnXx|talk]]) 12:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::Indeed. And the last time I saw him visit he was on a mobile device. I'm supposed to get a notification from law enforcement if they arrest him, but have not. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 15:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Came back, but this time with a static IP address from a public location: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Wk%C5%82ad/50.171.148.90. The only logical explanation I can think of is that he might have smashed his own computer to pieces. [[User:XXBlackburnXx|XXBlackburnXx]] ([[User talk:XXBlackburnXx|talk]]) 16:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::That's something he's completely capable of doing. I wonder if the neighbors heard the smash. I know they've complained about the shouting. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::... and they're back. How long will it take them to realize that this amount of disruption will get them nowhere? [[User:Kurnahusa|Kurnahusa]] ([[User talk:Kurnahusa|talk]]) 20:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Yup. - He will stop when he is in an institution that prohibits inmates from using the internet, and probably not before. Putting him in one is turning out to be a heavier lift than I expected. There are, of course, other unpleasant possibilities. His caretaker is not in good health, for example, and Chicago is a lousy place to be homeless. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Watch the pages I created on the simple wiki, and also my talk - I regret making that talk page on the Archie Moore article, since I'm now a potential target. [[User:Kurnahusa|Kurnahusa]] ([[User talk:Kurnahusa|talk]]) 23:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::Looks ok now. Anyone who reverts one of his edits is a potential target, and that includes now hundreds of people. He's also somewhat distracted because the troll wiki "Encyclopedia Dramatica" is featuring him. (I confess to being amused, in a dark sort of way, but am otherwise uninvolved.) - Remember he is one deranged person with a laptop and an internet connection, cared for by his mother, and has neither the resources nor the ability to do more than yell incoherent abuse online. If I could wave a magic wand and cure him I would. Right now he is far angrier at the ED people who researched his history than he is at you, me, or the good folks on the anti-vandalism battlements. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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== August music ==
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[[File:Yosemite Dog Lake.jpg|thumb|right|A lake in the Yosemite wilderness - there were no people here other than me]]

Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#7 Aug|my story]], watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:54, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
:Wow - fascinating. Imagine playing the same pipes Praetorius loved. (I wish I could play one of those historic organs. Obviously, that's not a thing where I live.) - I do need to visit some of those places in Europe that have them. Everyone else can go to beer parties, I want to hear an organ concert. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 15:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
:: I think I remember an instrument in LA, - check the list, perhaps by his son but same tradition. And yes, please come some day. [[St. Valentin, Kiedrich|St. Valentin in Kiedrich]] has one of the oldest playable organs in Germany, and is only half an hour by car from where I live. - ... and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#8 Aug|a third "musician"]], like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)--
:: On 13 August, [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Aug|Bach's cantata was 300 years old]], and the image one. The cantata is an extrordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in [[Chorale cantata cycle|the cycle]]. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#15 Aug|today's story]] is about education, 10 years OTD after [[Template:User QAIbox/doc#Kindness|lecturing our founder]]). Music for today's feast is Monteverdi's, the best concert we ever did (so pictured again on my talk), but it wasn't recorded, substituted with a "Pacific" one that comes with subtitles line by line in Latin and English: I learned something! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
:: Today's story is about [[Christof Nel|a stage director]], - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Aug|watch Aida]], so tender so cruel. -- (forgot to sign)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#25 Aug|Sunday story]] about another of Bach's chorale cantatas, listen, as I listened to [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#22 Aug|two impressive very different choral concerts]], - music by 16 composers. In the latest cloudy pictures: a hidden deer, a cat and a blaze of a sunset. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
:: Help? My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#27 Aug|story today]] is about a woman, [[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates|nominated for RD]] but needing support as I write this. [[Alexander Goehr|A composer died]] whose article is long and mostly unreferenced. And some articles open for review, always. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
:: Today is the birthday of [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#31 Aug|Alma Mahler]]. I believe that [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#30 Aug|Siegfried Lorenz]] should be mentioned on the Main page [[WP:ITNN|among the Recent deaths]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Needless to say, {{ping|Gerda Arendt}}, the first thing I thought of was Tom Lehrer's song, and lo - there it is in your description. Laughed out loud. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
:::: Happy to hear that. Same as last year ;) - and not by me. I tried a different hook with her, for [[Zwei Gesänge, Op. 1 (Schoenberg)|Schönberg's Op. 1]], but it wasn't accepted. [[Template:Did you know nominations/Tilman Michael|As this.]] - The singer appeared! For the last days I tried to improve [[Alexander Goehr]], for the same purpose. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
::::: Oh, by the way, I have been in the mountains, in some of the most spectacularly beautiful places in the United States. Spending time in natural locations like this, for me, works better than therapy. I know you also enjoy such outings. And at 3000 meters, the air is thin and cool. See the picture under your flowers. It snowed the day I left. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::: How beautiful! Remember the last trip to Yosemite (October 1993) - arrived, slept, and woke up to heavy snow on the golden leaves. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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== A hello and request ==

Hey there! Could you consider adding indef semi to [[John Koukouzeles]]? IPs have been edit-warring about his nationality repeatedly for a few years now.

Are you keeping okay? I've found myself at work on [[Binchois]]—incredible songs, to say the least! '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 22:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi Aza! - sure thing, done. Nice work on Binchois; yet another 15th-century composer whose bio needs an upgrade. - I've been doing great! Just got back from the mountains, i.e. Yosemite (see my response to Gerda just above, with a picture; meant to climb Mt Dana this year but it actually started snowing, so that's a hard no). Busy with lots of non-wiki stuff, like working on a little composition commission. I don't know if you use [[Finale (scorewriter)|Finale]] or not, but they just dropped a bomb on us; program being discontinued, so I'm migrating to a new program, ugh. Life is a succession of moments where as soon as you become expert at one thing, you find you are a noob at something else even more important. There's an essay there I think. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
::Quite so! Finale was my go-to scorewriter for a decade. I'm on the luckier side in that I decided to ditch it for Dorico just half a year ago, but the news is still troubling (and my Dorico familiarity remains rusty)!
::Yosemite sounds lovely. I found myself in Yellowstone earlier this summer, which was absolutely incredible. Debating over which national park should be next on the list... and Yosemite is certainly a contender '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 00:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
::: Have you been to [[Bryce Canyon National Park|Bryce Canyon]]? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
::::No, good idea! '''<span style="font-family:Lucida;">[[User:Aza24|<span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span>]][[User talk:Aza24|<span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span>]]</span>''' 19:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I've only been there briefly. Stunning place. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 19:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
::::: And once you are there, you get also [[Zion National Park|Zion]] and [[Arches National Park|Arches]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
::::: And of course [[Bright Angel (Waterhouse)|the musical one]], topic of one of my better DYK. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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* Following a [[Special:Permalink/1239237654#Motion 2: World War II and the history of Jews in Poland|motion]], [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland#My very best wishes bans|remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of ''World War II and the history of Jews in Poland'']] (the topic and interaction bans on [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]], respectively) were repealed.
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== September music ==
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#4 Sep|Today's story]] has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the [[Kyiv Symphony Orchestra]] in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Recommended reading today: [[Frye Fire]], by sadly missed [[User talk:Vami_IV|Vami_IV]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Happy because [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Sep|my story today]] is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]])

Happier about Bach's cantata on the Main page on its 300th birthday (per calendar), [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#10 Sep|my story]] (again)! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Three stories related to today in memory, [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#11 Sep|11 September]], [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Jul|20 July]] and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Jun|20 June]], the latter piece of art also pictured on the Main page. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Today is [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Sep|Schoenberg's 150th birthday]]! On display, portrayed by [[Egon Schiele]], with a DYK hook from 2010 and another from 2014, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday. - See ''places'' for a stunning sunrise, on the day [[Anton Bruckner|Bruckner]]'s 200th birthday was celebrated (a few days late). --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#17 Sep|My story today]] is about a man who played jazz when it was banned by the Nazis, - you can listen to how they played it later. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

[[Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114]], is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#25 Sep|My story today]] features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music|music]], some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

== Hi there! ==

Could you revdel the edit summaries on [[Rebecca black]] (redirect); it seems like someone doesn’t like me today. Thanks! [[User:Kurnahusa|Kurnahusa]] ([[User talk:Kurnahusa|talk]]) 00:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hmm, I wonder who that might have been. lol. (Now waiting for "Friday" to start playing on infinite loop in my head.) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Today someone tried to litter but they were caught doing so. I unfortunately couldn’t clean up everything so could you help me? Thank you :) [[User:Kurnahusa|Kurnahusa]] ([[User talk:Kurnahusa|talk]]) 05:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
:I think it's done now but let me know if there are others. Sad case, that guy. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
::Had to deal with a screaming baby at [[Boris Krčmar]], again, since I lost a pacifier. [[User:Kurnahusa|Kurnahusa]] ([[User talk:Kurnahusa|talk]]) 05:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Now at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ion_(disambiguation)&action=history and https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Judi&action=history. Very sad case… [[User:XXBlackburnXx|XXBlackburnXx]] ([[User talk:XXBlackburnXx|talk]]) 17:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
::::He has mercenaries? Who knew, right? - Law enforcement told me they were on it, but that was months ago. I don't think this kind of case ever makes it to the top of their priority list, unfortunately. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Uhh, I've noticed this user [[Special:Contributions/SleepyHollowGuy1999|SleepyHollowGuy1999]] and their other accounts add some weird stuff to articles for the past couple of months, for example [[Special:Contributions/GreatSpeedyGreatSpeedy|GreatSpeedyGreatSpeedy]]. Just today one of their accounts, [[Special:Contributions/Comtenamed0|Comtenamed0]], admitted that they are the Sleepy Hollow guy. I kind of suspect that it's L.S. (which stands for Los Santos) but I'm not sure. [[User:Kurnahusa|Kurnahusa]] ([[User talk:Kurnahusa|talk]]) 01:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::Wow, that's an LTA I'm not familiar with at all. I saw those edits on Clyde Bruckman, thinking it was going to be our mouthy friend in Chicago, but it isn't, and the account is already globally blocked. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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You may remember [[Maryvonne Le Dizès]], my [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#3 Oct|story today]] as [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#28 Aug|on 28 August]]. [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Some September music|Some September music]] was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with [[György Ligeti|Ligeti]] mentioned in story and music. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

today [[Rohan de Saram]] - unbelievable story --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:22, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:I love the Arditti quartet. I don't ''think'' I ever heard them live, but I lose track. Have some of their recordings. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:: Same for me. [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#21 Sep|The other day]] I heard the Armida Quartet, was impressed and ''thought'' I never heard them before, and it had been just [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#18 Jul|a few weeks earlier]]. - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#11 Oct|Today I remember]] an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:41, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
:: Today brought [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#ITN recognition for Helmut Bauer (bishop)|a timely promotion]] of [[Helmut Bauer (bishop)|Helmut Bauer]] to the Main page on the day when [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#12 Oct|pieces from Mozart's Requiem]] were performed for him. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
:: ... and today of [[Amaury du Closel]] and his good cause, - and [[Jacques Arcadelt]], begun by you, is remembered on the same page, and all DYK on my user page (but the last one which explains what's pictured in my user's infobox) are somehow related to a dear friend's birthday, - we met over her [[User:Gerda Arendt/Memories#The Master Singers of Westchester|conducting]] [[Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a|Suscepit Israel]] and became family. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
:: I made Leif Segerstam my [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Oct|big]] story today. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 08:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
:: My [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#20 Oct|story today]] is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:15, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Ah, ''De profundis''. My favorite. The setting by Lassus in the Penitential Psalms is sublime (I had intended to write an article on that, long ago - maybe someday I'll get around to it) - the two by Josquin are so good, but I think one of those is of questionable attribution. I'm sure you know the setting by Arvo Pärt, right? I like singing along with the bass. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
:::: Yes, thank you! - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#22 Oct|My story today]] is about a composer and choir conductor, listen to his [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KOI4Vfrq7s Lamento]. - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#13 Oct|My story on 13 October]] was about a Bach cantata. As this place works, it's on the Main page ''now'' because of the date. I sort of like it because today is the birth date of my grandfather who loved and grew dahlias like those pictured. He sang with a voice beyond bass ;) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:::: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#23 Oct|Another composer]], born OTD, from Japan, and I listened [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Aug|once to a world premiere]]. [[Voiceless Voice of Hiroshima]] should have an article. An [[Kaoli Isshiki|this soprano]]. Or not? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:::: I hope you followed to a [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#rich day|rich day]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:::: Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic in 2016. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

== Your user page ==

Hi, I just wanted to say that without your user page I wouldn't have been able to design mine. Thank you! [[User:Harrz|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:#0080FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em;">harrz</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Harrz|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:#0080FF 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;"><i>talk</i></span>]]</sup></small> 21:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

:Hey, thanks - appreciate that. It was originally designed by [[User:Phaedriel]] back in the WikiCretaceous, i.e. 2006 or 2007 or so. She was a great web designer. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 22:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::Wow, looking at her page I can tell she was great! Seriously, thanks both of you, without the two of you my page wouldn't look nearly as clean! [[User:Harrz|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:#0080FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em;">harrz</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Harrz|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:#0080FF 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em;"><i>talk</i></span>]]</sup></small> 22:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I’m sure you’re probably tired of having to deal with this guy all the time and I was just coming by to say we may or may not have some useful info on this person, such as his home IP (no proxy). Please respond if you would like to see this information. I’m only coming to you about this because he’s also been targeting [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] who has since began documenting GRP’s entire life. [[User:Koualska|Koualska]] ([[User talk:Koualska|talk]]) 17:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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::i completely understand lol, but glad to know you’re also aware of whats going on over at ED as well. i’ll send you some info we have on him here in a moment [[User:Koualska|Koualska]] ([[User talk:Koualska|talk]]) 17:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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[[User talk:Gerda Arendt#nov|memories]] -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 22:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

For a surprise, [[O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60|a Bach cantata]] is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An [[Wikipedia:2024 open letter to the Wikimedia Foundation|open letter]] open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
:I can't look at that piece without thinking about the Berg Violin Concerto. - Which is always a nice thing to think about. To the memory of an angel. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 23:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
:: exactly - heard last in Marburg, and created the article of [[Liza Ferschtman|the violinist]], and before in Salzburg (as a gift from friends who lived there), with [[Herbert Blomstedt]] stepping in for [[Nikolaus Harnoncourt|Harnoncourt]], imagine, - so forgot the violinist. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:28, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
:: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#9 Nov|Today's story]] relates to 2 meanings of 9 Nov, - imagine: I found a DYK I liked from 2006, before my time here. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
:: I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - [[Madeleine Riffaud]] - [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#remember|remember]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 14:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:: Happy Thanksgiving! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 00:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:::And a happy Thanksgiving to you, Gerda! - my favorite holiday. Gratitude, appreciation, a day when we (hopefully) leave the carping and complaining and whining aside. It is a good thing to be alive on earth. And Wikipedia, after all, ain't so bad. I am grateful for it, and for you and others who build, rather than tear down; this is the community ethic which is the core of civilization. And what an antidote to cynicism it is. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:::: Thank you, and I agree! - I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang [[Hevenu shalom aleichem]] at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Our old friend ==

Is currently up to the usual shenanigans over at [[Talk:Griffin (disambiguation)]]. I don't really have the time these years to keep an eye on such things, so if you could monitor that one for me I'd be much obliged. Frankly that page could probably use some revdel too, but I'll leave that to your discretion. I hope you're doing well. [[Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190|184.152.68.190]] ([[User talk:184.152.68.190|talk]]) 02:54, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you - done. He reminds me of one of those ancient 1970s cars that keeps chugging along on two cylinders and a cloud of smoke and never ever stops. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 03:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::And now I'm going to have that image in my head everytime I revert him {{smiley}}
::Thanks for cleaning up the vandalism on my user talk page earlier. [[Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190|184.152.68.190]] ([[User talk:184.152.68.190|talk]]) 21:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

== Administrators' newsletter – December 2024 ==

[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (November 2024).

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== December music ==
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 Dec|Today's story]] comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 17:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Today: [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#7 Dec|listen to Sequenza XIV]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 23:23, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page today [[Jean Sibelius]] on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's [[Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)|Fifth]] from the [[:File:Notre-Dame de Paris, across the Seine, before reopening.jpg|opening of Notre-Dame de Paris]]. We [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#8 Dec|sang in choirs]] today. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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Welcome

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Hi there. Welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for your note at Wikipedia:New user log.

I'm sure there are plenty of things you can contribute to here. You might want to check out List of classical music composers, List of musical topics, and Wikipedia:Requested articles/music. The last one, especially, has a lot of suggestions for articles that don't exist yet, but that someone would like to see.

Here are some links you might find useful:

You should also feel free to drop me a question on my talk page. I'll answer if I'm here.


Happy editing, Isomorphic 18:23, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

June music

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June songs

Ukrainian peace music is "on" today, with the conductor! - Pentecost (on last Sunday and Monday in Germany) brought a rich harvest of great music in two church services (one with me singing in choir) and two concerts with my brother in the orchestra, - four pictures I took besides the symphonic one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh. Thank you for that. Antandrus (talk) 22:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for improving articles in June! My song collection is especially rich, look, and the hall where I first heard DFD, Pierre Boulez and Murray Perahia. Do you find the baby deer in the meadow (last row)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
today: a song about getting through the night, after plenty of music over the weekend --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Melody

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July songs

today: violin solo and you can listen Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

yesterday I attended a unique concert - the 18th Thomaskantor after Bach conducting - and with some good luck caught him happy afterwards! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda - most excellent!
Some day there will be no more war - some day - but alas, Mars shines brightly in the sky, maybe a little too much so. Antandrus (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Who told you that the encore was an arrangement of Bach's Air with text Dona nobis pacem? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Listening to Dialogues of the Carmelites while prepping dinner for family. Have no idea why I'm listening to music about resistance to tyranny, nope, no idea, no idea, must be a coincidence. Antandrus (talk) 21:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that last year, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. :) Antandrus (talk) 22:03, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

... and another outstanding concert on 14 July: Voces8, pictured - I have a FAC open, in case of interest --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I love Voces8, and have been listening to them a lot recently. They approach... dare I say... perfection. Especially in the English rep. Antandrus (talk) 21:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
agree! - today: birthday music for a friend, after hiking in the Swiss Alps and a funeral with flowers on a bench and a Rilke poem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, good to see you around! :) I look forward to a little mountain hiking myself, if there is a gap in the fires. But the coast is nice, and not so smoky. Busy being a composer these days. Antandrus (talk) 22:00, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2022

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

Technical news

  • user_global_editcount is a new variable that can be used in abuse filters to avoid affecting globally active users. (T130439)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The New Pages Patrol queue has around 10,000 articles to be reviewed. As all administrators have the patrol right, please consider helping out. The queue is here. For further information on the state of the project, see the latest NPP newsletter.

de Vitry image

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Do you know where File:Philippe de Vitry.jpg is from? I vaguely recall either a conversation between you and I, or one I saw between yourself and someone else on a talk page somewhere discussing it. But alas, I cannot locate or recall the content of said conversation(s). Aza24 (talk) 18:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aza -- wow. I do not remember that image at all and my skepticism light came on with a big flash-flash. It appears it was uploaded by someone now blocked for abusing multiple accounts -- and the face sure does not seem to be rendered in an early 14th-century style. Googling a bit I don't find either a reliable source for it, or any suggestion it is someone else either. Seems most copies on the internet came from us. I don't trust it. Myke, are you still editing? do you recognize this image? Antandrus (talk) 18:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, you know, I think the thread I was remembering was that on Ockeghem's page about his image (see here). I have never come across the de Vitry image in any of the literature about him (though I have not exhaustively searched). In terms of likelihood, I can't say it would be impossible that an image of de Vitry exists in the first place, given the eminent status he had during his time. However, I would agree it doesn't seem obviously 14th-century—Johnbod may have some thoughts on that. A posthumous portrait is always possible as well, I suppose. I had exchanged some emails with Michael a few months ago about another WP question, so might email again if they don't see the ping. Going to ping Sparafucil and Srnec as well to see if they have any ideas. Aza24 (talk) 19:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would say it looks 15th or even early 16th century. Whoever it is, it looks like a donor portrait or supporter in an altarpiece, but done well after his death, and he was not a saint. Johnbod (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you -- rather confirms my hunch (just felt like a 15th-century rendering to me, but I'm not an expert). I'm pretty sure if there were authentic portraits of de Vitry we'd know. Antandrus (talk) 23:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely not a real image, and not from the time. I have however downloaded a copy for future talks about frauds in the early Ars Nova.  :-) -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 08:40, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me for interrupting, but that (poor scan, reflected, with a peculiar background) seems to bear more than a coincidental resemblance to this, at the Museo Nacional de Escultura, Valladolid, attributed to the Master of the Pacully collection [es]. Catalogue link. Hope that helps. Theramin (talk) 00:24, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No need to excuse yourself - that's it! Thank you! Absolutely. So it's supposedly Isidore of Seville? I wouldn't be a bit surprised, given the history of the account that uploaded it. We need to get rid of this thing. Antandrus (talk) 00:29, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well spotted, or did you do a CIA-style image comparison search? 1480-ish anyway. Johnbod (talk) 02:21, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No kidding. I'm impressed!
Now I feel like I've turned over a log and found something awful. There are other images by this same uploader that show, um, similarities, and there may be a lot of them. I'm not an admin on Commons. Uggggh. This particular de Vitry image has grown legs and spread all over the internet. Reminds me of how that "Giovanni Gabrieli" image (the one with the lute) similarly spread, and it's still out there.
Are any of my talk page stalkers admins on Commons? Can we speedy hoaxes there? Antandrus (talk) 02:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there are of course a ton of other wikis using it. I suppose to the medieval mind, there's no real problem as the idea of portraits needing to be likenesses was slow to arrive, though it had by the time this was done. It probably looks more like de Vitry than Isidore, if only we knew. In the Romanesque period, I forget which English king was having a row with a bishop, who wisely fled to Rome to complain to the pope. The king sent agents to intercept him, equipped with a wanted poster for identification, which sadly has not survived. They didn't find him. Johnbod (talk) 02:58, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And of course, one cannot forget the whole Anne of Cleves debacle. Besides de Vitry and Gabrieli, I know of at least two other instances of similar issues with early music composers: that random man who randomly was decided by someone (?) to be 'Pachelbel', with absolutely no evidence ([1]), and that really annoying image from the Cantigas which was used once by for album art in a Pérotin CD, and now has the internet brainwashed into thinking its actually him! (The file name even says "Pérotin"... should probably be changed...) – Aza24 (talk) 03:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Without giving away too many state secrets, it was nothing special - I just searched for similar images in a well-known internet search engine, and looked for some using different titles. A saint or a bishop or both seemed about right. Theramin (talk) 00:38, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail!

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Josquin, for the 30th time

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Sorry I'm back here :) I'm pondering how to deal with sources calling Josquin both French and Franco-Flemish, and unsatisfied with just calling him the former since sources do not overwhelming call him French, but (afaics) slightly more often than not call him such. What would you think of "Josquin des Prez [...] was a composer of High Renaissance music, variously described as 'French' or 'Franco-Flemish'." ? Aza24 (talk) 21:31, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No worries - bring up the magnificent composer any time! - Yes, that is one particularly fraught area and I could write paragraphs and paragraphs on it. We love to impose (even without realizing it) modern ideas of "nationality", or worse "ethnicity" on these historical figures. I heartily approve of your "variously described as" line. It's true. I mean - it's true. He is variously described that way, in the literature, in encyclopedias, in edit wars. (How many languages do you think he actually spoke? I'm guessing quite a few.) 'Franco-Flemish' may be a dated term, but it describes that cultural blending-pot rather nicely. And he had the French connection, so to speak. Antandrus (talk) 21:53, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Now done, and fully sourced/explained by note 4 in the article. Glad you see eye to eye with me here—might have to do something similar with Du Fay at some point, but would need to dig into sources more for that! Aza24 (talk) 01:49, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

High activity on your talk page

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Hello, Antandrus. Although we have not communicated with each other before, your user pages have been on my watch list since the day I started editing the English Wikipedia. It is a pleasure to watch them - especially this page. And, you know, the interaction on your talk page has been very high in a few weeks, and I have requested permanent protection twice for your talk page. Now I just see your reasons and appreciate them.

On the other hand, let's see Amanda's talk page. She has created a page that can only be edited by IPs. Maybe a page like that will be fine for you.

Live long and prosper, --Victor Trevor (talk) 19:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Victor - you know, I was just thinking about that exact thing, i.e. setting up an IP page. There's really only one person who causes the problem (and this has gone on, with occasional breaks, since February 2006 - it only stops when he goes to jail - literally). It's hard to write about because he reads my page, and I don't want to give him ideas. He loves to vandalize my archives, probably thinking no one watches them, so I've protected most. Creating an IP-only talk page would shift the problem to there. Worthwhile? I'm on the fence. I like the idea of a honeypot (computing). Ideally I just want him to bother me, since it's just water off my back, rather than someone else that might be driven away from the project entirely by the creepiness of an insane obsessive. Antandrus (talk) 21:11, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

Administrator changes

readded Valereee
removed Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • CapitalistroadsterSamsara

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
  • An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news

  • The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
  • Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
  • Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
  • Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.

August songs

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August songs

pics and thoughts on 13 August -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

and on 15 August: "my" concert of the year (so far) is on the Main page, but not pictured, and I don't understand why --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the last week brought more outstanding concerts and bike tours, - how is your summer? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gerda! - it's pretty good. Composition projects, lots of writing (elsewhere, obviously), family time. :) Antandrus (talk) 19:23, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, sounds good - another great tour on Debussy's birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
+ the church where I heard VOCES8 and more discoveries --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, Gerda, did you just hear the Bruckner 7th? I'm jealous. Love that piece. It soars, it soars. That opening, that in its very scale sets up the granitic mountain range that is the whole - it's sublime. I have synesthesia and hear E major as radiant gold, and this piece is the type specimen, so to speak. Antandrus (talk) 22:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
you say that so well, - now I'm a bit jealous ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for what you told Aza24! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Changing user name question

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My brother-in-law registered a kind of jokey user name and now wants to change it to something more professional. His jokey user name is actually a stumbling block to his being a more active editor. How can he change it officially? Thanx in advance. Amuseclio (talk) 13:41, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Amuseclio[reply]

Hi Amuseclio -- it's easy. All you have to do is go here: Global user account rename request. See WP:RENAME for the whole policy. I think it gets more complicated if he has a lot of edits but that's not what it sounds like. Antandrus (talk) 14:04, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2022

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).

Guideline and policy news

  • A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
  • An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
  • The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
  • Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.

September music

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September songs

1 September: I remember the Vespro della Beata Vergine, 2 September: the last of the Rheingau Musik Festival concerts, and today we can read The Story of Mr Sommer, and follow Ruth Lapide. - Do you have a bit of time to look into viola repertoire? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Today: Opera in Ukraine, not by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

a rainbow pic today, and a deer yesterday (but hard to see) - Jubilate Deo --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the rose pic was taken on 11 Sep 2021, and this year was full of music that day, Tag des offenen Denkmals, not only singing in church and rehearsals for Verdi's Requiem, but two concerts at special places pictured, one a synagogue (pictured on its wall). Today three DYK: a piece we'll perform on Sunday, a violinist we heard in June playing the Berg Concerto, and a Youth Orchestra shaped by a conductor who recently died. Almost too much of a good thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:09, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

today, we sang old music for two choirs at church, pictured, scroll to the image of the organ of the month of the Diocese of Limburg (my perspective), and if you have time, watch the video about it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

... and today I wrote an article about music premiered today, Like as the hart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

and yesterday I wrote Who shall separate us? and today we enjoy Spannungen (tensions, sparks ...) - chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

travel and strings sound, last in a brand-new concert hall --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

last images, - music to explore, a Ukrainian baritone first, and the new Casals Forum for chamber music is just wonderful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Josquin (for the 1000th time)

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Hey! My work on the Josquin article is mostly finished; reviewers at the article's FAR are now taking a look through for final clean up and such. Sandy has asked if another editor familiar with the subject matter could go through it to double check for any content inconsistencies or errors. If at all possible, any thoughts you might have on these matters would be most appreciated on the page's FAR. Aza24 (talk) 00:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aza - certainly. I'll try to give it a readthrough in the next couple days - mainly for content but may make some prose tweaks. It's ten years since I've read any of the Josquin scholarship, so - as I don't have a strong research library five minutes away like I did when I wrote the original article, if I need to access something behind a paywall I may just ask you. Antandrus (talk) 02:15, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Much obliged—and happy to provide any scholarship for reference, though I will not have my hands on the Josquin Companion again until next week. Aza24 (talk) 02:26, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(I should have just bought myself a copy of the damn thing back in the day...)
Are you not a fan of the Oxford comma, and do you mean for the article to be without it? No worries either way; I just like consistency. (Should I write my comments on the FAR page? - I will continue reading it soon.) Antandrus (talk) 02:41, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I started using the Oxford comma a lot more this year, but since I worked on Josquin throughout the year, I suspect there are inconsistencies on the page. Comments on the FAR page would be great, preferably the FAR talk page (you'll see Sandy has left comments there too). Aza24 (talk) 03:14, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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October music

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Today is Erntedank in Germany, thanksgiving, and we celebrated our village's 650th anniversary, and had the dress rehearsal for Verdi's Requiem with an interesting band of marimba, piano, horn, bass, timpani and drum, - concert tomorrow, our national holiday. Seeing a pic I took on the Main page was also a nice harvest. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

650! Where I live, something is old if a gray-haired person remembers it being built. But yet an entire culture existed here for ten thousand years, and left nothing but ghosts that talk to you in the wind, on an October night. Antandrus (talk) 22:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thomanerchor celebrated 800 years (in 2012)! - Excited that Ukrainian choir OREYA will visit our parish, giving a concert on 4 November. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
new day, another pictured DYK (but not pictured by me this time): look at power work tensions (if you translate) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
today's DYK: two facts from the two concert of this years Rheingau Musik Festival I liked best, both a cappella singing, yes, Thomanerchor. If you follow the songs, you see a circus, where I performed singing, and in the end the whole tent joined for Dona nobis pacem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
who shall separate us --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
spa wellness: last day of BWV 56, and two great musicians who died --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
leaving the month with reformation and a cat treat --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Another IP for the Talk:Homo antecessor vandalism

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Per Special:Contributions/184.103.6.255 shouldn’t that IP be blocked too? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:07, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like a VPN or group of open proxies (one IP was in Arizona, one in Taiwan, one in Greece) so it's highly unlikely the person would get the same IP again. I will block it though if it returns. Antandrus (talk) 01:26, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, OK. Thanks. Since I don’t think we’ve spoken before I should take the opportunity to say how much I like User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior. I must have read it half a dozen times over the years; thanks for putting it together. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:32, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh thank you! - really appreciate that. I always like to hear when someone has noticed that thing, or it has done some good. Antandrus (talk) 01:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November vacation

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November songs

I was away for vacation in the U.S., pictured, after we had an Ukrainian choir visiting, my first subject celebrated 60, and we heard Bach's ultimate statement about life and death (3 concerts in 3 days) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:58, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow Gerda, that's wonderful! I haven't been in New York City for a few years. Looks like a lovely time. I admit I laughed out loud at the Katz's deli picture (remembering a certain movie).
Busy composing music these days, and getting my piano technique back up where it belongs. Antandrus (talk) 18:53, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds great! Happy Thanksgiving! Bach said it in music for peace --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Thanksgiving as well, Gerda! - our big family gathering this year is at my house so I will be cooking much of the day. However this year I get to choose the music. :) May include Bach. Antandrus (talk) 14:50, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
good choice! the sinfonia of that cantata might be a good idea --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:45, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
American tradition guests preferred Lebanese, pictured --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:26, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Opera and Advent choral music on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Featured Article Save Award

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On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, Antandrus! Your work on Josquin des Prez has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. I hereby award you this Featured Article Save Award, or FASA. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 04:51, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Scriabin article

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Hello. I see that you've edited our page on Alexander Scriabin. In case you are interested,

I happened to be looking at that and I see lots of content cited to unpublished or self-published dissertations. Much of it is dubious in my opinion. The first one I found was in the "first period" section where there's analysis to claim that six and seven tone chords are extensions of the triad. I think this is highly misleading and does not reflect current approaches to theory and harmony, which focus more on the functions and tonal implications of such sounds and do not treat their structure in isolation. I hesitate to remove the content as unverified in RS, but I wonder what you think and what would be the best approach to improve this content? Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 18:42, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SPECIFICO -- yes, I've had that article on my watchlist seemingly forever but I don't remember actually reading it (or writing much of it). Looking quickly, it appears that Sabbagh book is self-published, and at best overused for the style section. It looks like the person who wrote that section hasn't edited since 2015, so -- the best approach (laborious, of course) is probably just to get better quality, current sources and rewrite it. For what it's worth, I wouldn't personally use much of a "triadic" approach if I were teaching Scriabin's music, especially the later stuff -- as you say, current approaches do not treat chordal structures in isolation. I rather doubt Scriabin was thinking that way, anyway; he was experimenting with nice chewy dissonances that felt good in his hands as he was improvising, to see where they led him, -- but that's just my OR. You might leave a note about a planned upgrade on the talk page. (I don't remember seeing any page "OWN"ers on Scriabin, if you know what I mean -- always a hurdle when you see an article needing an upgrade.) I'd be happy to read what you add. Antandrus (talk) 19:50, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I think there's even a quote in the article to the effect that he ~"preferred fourths to thirds"😄 It would be a big job, and I'm not current with whatever academic literature may deal with analysis. It would be rather arcane 100+ years later. I don't think the self-sourced stuff by several authors is worthless, so I am OK to leave it alone for now. SPECIFICO talk 20:03, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

December music

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December songs
happy new year

Today, we sang Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme twice, after a short trip to Paris with great opera and symphony, - enjoy! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I can offer a hymn for a Marian feast, and I learned that Yvonne Ciannella died, the soprano who impressed me in my first night at the opera. As she died in March, sadly no Main page reverence is possible, - at least she had a good DYK, at a time when opera singers were considered interesting. I'm proud today that Christiane Hörbiger made it to that corner, and happy that we celebrate the birthday of Jean Sibelius again. - I heard an excellent Christmas concert yesterday, by Tenebrae, and a short excerpt of them singing "Deo gracias" is also linked from my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Today was a day rich in music, with two new pictures, and also rich in WP:QAI contributions on the Main page: the TFA, 2 DYK and 2 RD with members as principal editors. The church pictured there (not by me, nice snow dust and tall evergreen) comes with memories, detailed on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Latest pics, with an opera discovery and some snow. Today my talk has a DYK that was planned for 22 November, among the recent deaths the author of Duck, Death and the Tulip, and now a choir pic of "our" concert last Sunday, likely to become next year's lead image. Enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Today, pictured, the soprano of our choral concert of the year. More in the context: User talk:Gerda Arendt#DYK for Talia Or, in case of interest. - Enjoy the season! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda, and happiest of Christmases to you and yours! Antandrus (talk) 14:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy it was (singing pictured), and now happy new year to you and yours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:28, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays, Antandrus

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May you have very Happy Holidays ...

and a safe New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music.



Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 09:51, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Voceditenore, and happy holidays to you as well! - and I fully approve of that list of items for the new year. Antandrus (talk) 14:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

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Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
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Happy New Year, Antandrus!

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January songs
happy new year

and also from me --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

today, I point at two singers I whose performance I enjoyed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:03, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

today, less pointy: a composition from a remarkable 2022 concert, the sad record of four articles about people who recently died on the Main page at the same time, and singing for Epiphany --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today's featured article is Osbert Parsley, not by me but Amitchell125 where I commented, including the beginning of my songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on vacation, - click on songs! I tell my own stories now, instead of relying on DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today's topic Elisabeth Waterhouse. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back, most pics uploaded (but 1 1/2) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What a lovely trip that must have been! That "trail to Puertito" - and the pictures of the coast, and lush vegetation - has an uncanny similarity to the coast where I live. I think a lot of the landscaping plants here came from those islands. (In some cases, the reverse!) Beautiful. Antandrus (talk) 17:14, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, lovely - and now the rest of the pics - Melitta Muszely died, RIP - the other story is 10 years old OTD ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February songs

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February songs
my daily stories

yesterday's cantata, 300 years later --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

today's stories are about two pieces we sang at church, today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I love Arvo Pärt. Hope he lives forever. He captures something of perfect and eternal peace in his music - and he deserves every bit of his immense fame. Antandrus (talk) 17:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was blessed with meeting him during a concert intermission in Tallinn, telling him that we sing his music often, especially our youth choir. They did Da pacem in 2012, but this was the first time I got to sing it! - Today a book, Alte Liebe, for Valentine --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
... and today the regional festival - DYK of 13 years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection?

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Hi @Antandrus -- wondering if you'd like to request some sort of protection on this page (autoconfirmed, logged in, etc.) -- it's been almost 2 years since the last IP/Unregistered account has added anything to the page that wasn't vandalism and more than that since something that was actually productive. I just see that >50% of my (admittedly, trimmed down) watchlist is Deletion Logs on this page. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 21:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree it's probably necessary and have protected it myself from time to time - this psychotic obsessive in Chicago and his manic-bipolar sidekick in Poland seem to visit me rather regularly. (See the very top of the page; I already set up a mechanism for IP editors to contact me if they wanted to.) I think I'll close the screen door now, as that usually does keep the blowflies out. Antandrus (talk) 23:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can I assume?

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Hi, can I assume that you're dealing with the necessary global IP blocks when you follow himself to enWikisource? Navigating SRG is beyond me at present. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:39, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Beeswaxcandle - I usually don't try to block the IPs globally because they are all throwaway P2P proxies, and he seems to have thousands of them. (Well, if I had the ability to block globally myself I'd do it just to reduce the supply) - adding a request to SRG is cumbersome and of limited use. On enwiki I block them for six months, because over time (and hundreds of blocks, and strong edit filters) that slows him down. Antandrus (talk) 15:36, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

March stories

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March songs
my story today

On IWD, I remember a 2016 DYK: Hana Blažíková, a Czech who sang German music in Japan. Girls and women sang how Bach arranged Pergolesi's Stabat Mater to a new text paraphrasing Psalm 51, last Sunday. - I loved improving Mary Bauermeister - on the Main page until yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for a thank-you-click, - but nothing happened afterwards, not from the user. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:29, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, Gerda. That whole situation just makes me feel pain. I avoid those discussions as they quickly become so toxic. People have become so deeply entrenched that any change is unlikely in most personal positions.
What strikes me is that both sides of the argument are, in fact, right. But people talk past each other, and are as unlikely to acknowledge the potential rightness of the other side's argument as they are to transform into a unicorn and fly off in a sparkle of rainbows. Standing back a bit, what I see is this: IBs have become, for better or worse (and sometimes, in my opinion, distinctly worse) a de facto standard on Wikipedia, so readers expect them, and when they are not there, they complain. Consistency is a good thing, usually, and I too find it jarring when an article doesn't have an infobox, - even though I completely understand how IBs can be devoid of nuance, and can emphasize perfectly trivial details in an overly prominent way. - Standing back even farther - back up, back up, way back, for a big picture - the way we gather and process information in 2023 is very different from the way it was 50 or 100 years ago. Attention spans have changed, and people are now used to encountering data overviews in tabular format. Google anything and there it is - in an infobox! I don't know when this started to happen, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, but it mirrors a modern informational trend. (Does anyone study this? They should.) While 50 years ago readers would go to an encyclopedia and read prose, now most readers look for information quickly presented in a table or box, with an article alongside, especially younger readers. - Anyway I could write a dissertation on this. But I detest those infobox arguments that so quickly become hostile and mean. Most editors here are good people and better than that. Sometimes, on this issue, I feel like Arjuna on the field of battle in the Bhagavad Gita. I will not contribute to the nastiness. :) Antandrus (talk) 23:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for thoughtful pondering, but I'm afraid I was not clear with the question. I was shocked by the edit, and want to know what others think. Perhaps you have thoughts for that as well? I was determined to miss out the Mozart RfC - as I did for the last one, even apologizing that I wasn't willing. On the talk, I showed up:
  • 2017: "a bit of history"
  • 2018: "to stay away may be more productive"
  • 2022: "I stayed away for the last discussions for Mozart, as a complete waste of my limited time."
On this background: I don't get over the "invitation". I have no way to understand it as humourous (although I have the feeling that was an intention). - I fear I have to say something now, to not let it stand (and written by a user I highly respect, - we even wrote articles together). But what? A long essay about the history will not be heard, nor a plea for peace. (I asked the arb candidates if we still had infobox wars, and they didn't see them.) What do you think of a short version?
Support --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:19, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Antandrus. A little parable about boxes and such… Twenty-three years ago I and five of my colleagues at the university were commissioned by a well-known British publisher to write an elementary textbook on sociololinguistics. We were horrified that we would be required to have “Key Points” boxes in the upper right corner of each section. “No No”, we cried. “The lazy students won’t truly engage with our magnificent prose. Oversimplification. Blah Blah.” Well, the publishers said many studies show that this what students want and this is what we’re going to give them. So we did. The book was a big success and is now in its 5th edition. Voceditenore (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
today we remember the 150th birthday of Max Reger, who saw the horrors of a world war right when it began in 1914, while others were still in high patriotic moods --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I have a soft spot for Max Reger. Played his clarinet quintet once (first violin). Did not realize that he wrote a piece (Die Toteninsel) based on Böcklin's famous painting; of course everyone knows the version by Rachmaninoff. Have to find a recording of that now - curious. Antandrus (talk) 21:15, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reger's Böcklin in an organ version was featured in the first concert of Reger-Chor. - BWV 1 today, and new pics, more of them tomorrow --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
sharing impressions from vacation on Madeira 20-30 March, pics now at 24 Mar from the peaks - the RfC with the non-neutral invitation to fight was closed, and went rather peacefully - what can we learn from it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

April songs

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April songs
my story today

My story today is about the Alchymic Quartet, - I went away from DYK but it's the last one from last year. - The songs are about vacation, continued. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I made an exception from my DYK abstinence for Good Friday, - see my story today. I sang, including chorales from Bach's greatest Passion. I recently listened to one by Homilius: a discovery! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, excellent! - coincidentally (or maybe not, given the calendar) I am right now, at this very second, listening to the St Matthew Passion (John Eliot Gardiner recording). :) Antandrus (talk) 16:46, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for listening. I was able to add a hiking day to the images (getting-wet-day). Will sing tonight and the Vierne mass tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I loved to see Marian Anderson and her story of protest against discrimination by singing on Easter Sunday 9 April 1939 on the Main page yesterday. Impressions of Easter here and music here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My story today, Messiah (Handel), was my first dip into the FA ocean, thanks to great colleagues. - a few pics added, one day missing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added, finally ;) - today's stories are about Johanna Geisler and Huub Oosterhuis, a singer and a songwriter. More here if you have time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today is the 80th birthday of John Eliot Gardiner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today is the 11th anniversary of me noticing your broad perspective, - let's celebrate. Today's story is all about memory, yesterday's was more romantic, violin playing pictured. Look at the composer, do you see what I see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Misatango coming up for me --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Project duck

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This IP looks an awful lot like Project based on today's Talk:The Death of Stalin edits. ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:04, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct, thank you - I protected the talk page for a while. Antandrus (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another appearance of the globally banned user?

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See these diffs ([2], [3]) at Cambodian genocide. Regards, TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - good catch. Absolutely. It takes a village. Or a dedicated team of watchers. :) Antandrus (talk) 23:08, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

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May songs

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May songs
my story today

I had a good story on coronation day: a Te Deum we sang that day. And the following day we sang it for the composer ;) - And today we remember a composer who created music especially for us! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, a good story! - I have a bandoneon myself, manufactured in Saxony in the 1860s, brought over by an ancestor, who used to play transcriptions of the German orchestral repertoire to homesick immigrants in a large US city in the age before recordings. Some of the notes still work, but I'd love to get it rebuilt. The way the buttons are arranged works better for Joseph Lanner than Schoenberg, I have to say. Antandrus (talk) 21:53, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
thank you! - more pleasant music - just heard! - if you click on songs - did you know a string quartet with two cellos? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
and now May scenery pictured when you click on songs, - scroll up if you missed the chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pentecost was full of music, and my story today is that 300 years ago today, Bach became Thomaskantor, with BWV 75, writing music history. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Inquiry

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Mind keeping an eye on a page for me? Ljupco's taken interest in Talk:Stalinism (disambiguation) and I'm going to have too much stuff on my plate IRL to risk any Wikipedia soon, if not by tomorrow than certainly by midweek.

I don't see much value in protection as disruption will just continue on other pages and given that this target has extremely limited visibility may actually be counterproductive, but I'll defer to your judgement on that one, given your extensive experience with the case. 74.73.224.126 (talk)


Edit requested on RFPP. Copied. Courcelles (talk) 20:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both - will do. Antandrus (talk) 20:31, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Abuser

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Special:Contributions/177.221.8.205 Ban evasion, personal attacks 2600:8801:1CA7:5600:B9A9:8638:9EDD:AB76 (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! - Antandrus (talk) 16:14, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June songs

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June songs
my story today

I like today's Main page, and here's why ;) - (DYK that we got filmed when performing the piece mentioned) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Last weekend was nice, class reunion a funny number of years after completing school, and the lovely park where I spent many Sundays as a child. Today's story is quite dramatic, there's a yt trailer to the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11 June or: Music not only by Bach --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jörg Widmann is 50 today, and I began Stockholm pics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about a singer whom I saw twice, not Wagner and Strauss, but Bach and Weill - more vacation pics! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, the story is ten years old, the Main page had three great people who recently died, and I invite you to look at two videos around concerts I heard, in the short one actually seen in the background. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Gerda Arendt: - an aside: I just wanted to say how much I appreciate how good you are at helping newcomers. I don't have as much patience as you do, especially for people who show up with relatively new accounts and promptly start edit-warring - I was about to leave a "lecturing" note but your approach is more more in keeping with our original wiki spirit.
For what it's worth I no longer oppose infoboxes. Was kicking around ideas for an essay on this. Fifteen years ago they were terrible, with things like boxes designed for popular music and rock stars jammed into composer articles - but something interesting, but not unexpected, has happened; they've refined. They're better. And also, they're part of the scenery so that when one is missing, it feels jarring. I too have gotten into the habit of glancing at an infobox to see in an instant things like age-at-death, place of birth, a link to a list of works. Curious, isn't it. Twenty years after my first edit (as an anon) Wikipedia continues to improve. Thank you for being one of the people helping it do so. Antandrus (talk) 23:26, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Abel Fest
That's a lovely way to celebrate an anniversary, - congratulations. My editing anniversary is in August, but when I started you and the other pioneers had done much of the groundwork, - thank you - all. - About a newcomer edit-warring: it's like a child, "I am right, and you are not". And for many things that is even the right attitude, and it's a fine line to the other. To expect that someone doesn't edit war who has never even be welcomed is asking too much ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:52, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
adding a celebratory image - I'm the one in yellow - imagine me applauding you ;) - (I came to sit next to the woman who directs the Telemann Society in Hamburg, and more or less behind the recipients of the first Abel Prize, in the first concert of the first Abel Fest in the mirror hall of Schloss Köthen, which looked different when Bach was engaged there, 1717 to 1723.) - I invite you to gnomishly change infobox musical artist to infobox person anytime you see it for people in classical music. They are also people ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today: a woman caught by the iron curtain (improved with SusunW and GRuban), yesterday: the Mass in B minor, heard in concert then, three musical videos are out, and the rest of the vacation pics is now there. - Perhaps you want to talk to the second Beethoven warrior? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July music

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July songs
my story today

My story today pictures a friend whose birthday is today ;) - we met at the fancy place pictured above (which looked different when Bach played there). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Finally: June pictures updated, with three great RMF concerts! - My story today is very personal: the DYK appeared on Wikipedia's 15th birthday, and describes a concert I sang. I was requested to translate the bio into German for a memorial concert ... - see background, and we talked about life and death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fireworks on the Rhine pictured on 1 July, but the real stars were sun and moon. I love today's story. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I remember Reger's Requiem, and our choirs' jubilee 2 weeks ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Underrated composer; we hardly ever hear his music in the US (oh look, we discussed him briefly above). I like a lot of that turn-of-the-century and somewhat more recent music. Are you familiar with Egon Wellesz's work? It has a lot of subtlety but seems to be somewhat neglected, but maybe in Germany not so much? Antandrus (talk) 22:04, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Familiar" would be saying too much, - I just know he existed, and I may have heard chamber music but not to a lasting impression, while singing that Requiem - the premiere of the organ version - made a lasting impression. Someone - forgot who - pointed out that Reger - while others were enthusiastic about the War - thought immediately about those who would die, and wrote pieces, more or less complete, dedicated to their memory. And then he died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On today's Main page, you can find a cantata that Bach first performed 300 years ago, and an iconic saxophonist from East Germany. Also: a bit about the history of QAI on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While today's DYK highlights Santiago on his day, I did my modest share with my story today, describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Coincidentally a bunch of my friends are doing / have done the Camino this year - I have been tempted to go myself. Sometimes you need to get up and stretch, you know? There's so much more to life than the screens we all stare at much of the day. Glad to see you are having a good and productive summer! Antandrus (talk) 16:18, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I know people who walked the Camino, and coincidentally one of them sat right behind me in the concert. I've seen passages of it, and some really take patience and endurance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
... which takes me Jahrhundertring (written in defiance in 2013), and I'm listening to Götterdämmerung from the Bayreuth Festival, close to the scene pictured, - the image (of a woman who can't believe what she has to see) features also on the article talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinduoduo article help?

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Hi, I’m an employee of Pinduoduo, one of the largest companies in Asia. I posted a proposal to make some updates about the company at Talk:Pinduoduo#Fixing problems with NPOV and PROMOTIONAL language on the Pinduoduo Talk page, but there hasn’t been any discussion so far. I was wondering if you as a member of the Companies WikiProject might be willing to take a look at the proposal? Thanks very much. Snowy2000 (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August music

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August songs
my story today

Today's music is played by my brother's orchestra, conducted by two very young men on their way up, - the picture was taken shortly after the invasion of Ukraine began, - more detail on my talk. Images reached the day of the Tenebrae concert mentioned in July. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story today - a first - isn't about an article by me, but one I reviewed for DYK, see here. I like all: topic, "hook", connected article (a GA on its way towards FA), image and the music "in the background". I just returned from a weekend of weddings, so also like the spirit ;) - Pics to come, I promise one cake, the other was too large! Good music, and better even in the concert ending the second day, - Goldberg Variations theme for an encore, after Dohnányi Serenade. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Again not by me: today's story - with the triumph of music over military - is uplifting! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Now: picture of heart-shaped cake(s) uploaded! - Today's story is about a tenor, - why his roles are not linked on the Main page remains a mystery to me. Today is also the birthday of the Bayreuth Festival. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah wonderful! - and by a neat coincidence (that's not the first time) I am, at this very moment, listening to Tristan und Isolde (the Margaret Price/Rene Kollo/Kleiber recording). - Did you notice the minor kerfuffle on the Chopin page? It's always struck me as amusing that Wikipedia's most unpleasant arguments are often over the most trivial of nits, like whether or not to include a link. Antandrus (talk) 21:34, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed Chopin, and a similar exchange was on Mendelssohn. I tried to be fair to Cosima, but was reverted. I asked a year ago or so if we really need another RfC, and thought that after Mozart and Wagner, certainly not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
An essay would be fun - Wikipedia:Request for Drama. If I pour myself some fire-water I might get in the mood, ha ha ha. I try to let the little stuff go. My personal peeve is tag-bombers, especially those who strafe articles I wrote 18 years ago before we had footnoting, demanding cites for absolutely everything - and to supply them I'd have to go to a library and find all the books again. But in the bigger scheme of things, that too is little stuff. Antandrus (talk) 22:42, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ha ha ha - I requested drama by asking on Richard Wagner if his wife might deserve a place in the article before being first mentioned as the wife of a conductor he worked with. - "Tempter" remained unlinked for the rest of the night, yes, small stuff, but why even talk so much about so small stuff. It was linked when approved, then the promoter cut it out completely, brought it back but without link, - they could have just left it as it was. Now I'm blamed for having asked the wrong place, ha ha ha --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
One more day uploaded, with another wedding cake - I couldn't resist. Today's story is about the Inkpot Madonna who returned to "her place" 9 years ago, and also has aspects of early learning, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today is the anniversary of the premiere of Götterdämmerung. Berit Lindholm sang its final scene in concert at the Royal Festival Hall in London, only four years after her stage debut in a Mozart opera in Stockholm. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today I heard a delightful concert, "Himmlische Freuden", remembered having heard Vilde Frang (Bruch concerto, in Zürich, with my brother's orchestra) , and succeeded in preparing Renata Scotto's article enough for the Main page (which took two days). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today is Debussy's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is indeed! - Traveling at the moment, through the great American Outback, where that name is little known, but soon I shall be among people who not only know the name but revere the music. Antandrus (talk) 00:04, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today is Gwendolyn Killebrew's birthday, - pictured: a spider and sweet food --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This too shall pass. - Ten years ago on 28 August, I heard a symphony, with a heavy heart because of the pending decision in WP:ARBINFOBOX, and not worried about my future here but Andy's. - It passed, and I could write the DYK about calling to dance, not battle, and Andy could write the DYK mentioning about peace and reconciliation, - look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda - sorry I have not kept up - I have been traveling and only very occasionally looking at the wiki-world. It is very interesting to do something completely different for a while, and then look again at our curious little universe of online personalities and articles, where the conflicts can seem sub-microscopic to outsiders, or even ourselves, but yet the product has an enormous importance, maybe bigger than we even realize. I had the disorienting but pleasant experience recently of hearing my own words coming back at me from a radio announcer on a 'classical' radio station, as the announcer read part of an article I had written. Those small things can make it all worthwhile, I tell you. Or - "there's this strange composer, do you know his work? I found an article on Wikipedia about him, of all places, ..." I smiled. Why, I wrote it myself. Anonymously. These are good things. Arbcom decisions this way or that - whatever. Life goes on. Do good work, no matter what. :) Antandrus (talk) 01:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, and I try, but some day it's harder, - see my talk about the soprano pictured on the main page with a hook - well, let's be polite and say nothing. Hopefully it will draw some readers in that otherwise wouldn't come, and an estimated 80% will just come by the image, I'm sure. - I had an effect as you described on radio, when a program book had not only my text for a Christmas cantata by Graham Waterhouse, but also for the Bach cantata combined with it, taken from Wikipedia. - Arbcom: I described the situation in detail to Dr. Blofeld: it was about banning a productive content editor, "that way", and I trembled for days, and it mattered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I didn't catch the vandalism in time for your talk page. Just for my future reference, is this an LTA issue? When reporting to AIV I like to add LTA/sock details so it's easier for blocking admins to see what it's in reference to. Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 16:07, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(stalking) see WP:LTA/GRP 74.73.224.126 (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's great, thanks ip (sorry about the revert) Knitsey (talk) 16:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, it happens. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 16:19, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Hi Knitsey - yes, that was an LTA (this one). His peculiarity is that he imitates other LTAs, in this case WP:LTA/GRP. Thanks for your help! Antandrus (talk) 16:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding is that since they began sharing (or compromising) each others passwords, they're essentially indistinguishable to all but the most dedicated of sock taxonomists. And that both of them are also often imitated in turn, since WP:RBI applies regardless it really doesn't matter. 74.73.224.126 (talk) 16:19, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Lovely, thank you both. I've added them both to my list. Knitsey (talk) 16:20, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September music

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September songs
my story today

Our festival's last concert was most moving and inspiring, and there are seconds of it - plus glimpses of an interview with the conductor, age 96 - in this tv summary. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Now pics around that memorable concert, and the story of Walter Arlen, - proud that I survived the decision in WP:ARBINFOBOX for 10 years, standing and singing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about a great pianist with an unusual career, taking off when he was 50. It's the wedding anniversary of Clara and Robert Schumann, but I was too late with our gift. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today I remember Raymond Arritt, who still helps me, five years after he died, per what he said in my darkest time on Wikipedia (placed in my edit-notice as a reminder), and by teh rulez. - Latest pics from a weekend in Berlin (one more day to come). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story today is The Company of Heaven ("company" with a double meaning, but angelic company in the end). - No new pictures yet, it's a week with concert or opera every night! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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October music

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October songs
my story today

My story today is sad but great. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A few more pics, and see my talk for what Tabea Zimmermann played (today's story on her birthday): I heard it, and it's on YouTube. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

More pics, and today's story is on a birthday, and the real DYK was already on that birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music keeps track of "my" music and memories, and just today I have a juxtaposition of music performed by the two church choirs in town, one I sang in and one where I listened, to music about love, evening and night. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:48, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, it's a place that inspired me, musings if you have time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A few more pics - caution: hornet. - Could you perhaps check the nomination of Carmen Petra Basacopol for RD, here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

She is today's topic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I thought of Brian Bouldton today, and his ways to compromise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

November thanks

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November songs
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Thank you noticing Hevenu shalom aleichem, - my story today. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Of particular significance at the moment. This is all so distressing. Antandrus (talk) 20:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. - I added some images from Aachen = medieval history. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
More pics from the trip, - and my story today is about my song of defiance, - it was a great pleasure to hear it performed today! The line "Ich steh hier und singe" (I stand here and sing) is in the movement with the music pictured, which begins with "Trotz -- Trotz -- Trotz", sounding much tougher than "defiance" ;) - in this YouTube it's at 4:55. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Performers of the 4 Nov concert now pictured on my talk. - I proudly remember having sung in an oratorio premiere seven years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
More, if you like: today I have three items on the Main page, almost too much of a good thing! Bach's amazing cantata with the unusual scale, first performed 300 years ago OTD, the nun for the prostitutes, and Schumann's wedding gift for Clara. Also first day of vacation pics uploaded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today is St. Martin's Day, which stands for sharing. Sharing one more day of vacation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah splendid, share and share again. :) I've played the Verdi Requiem, as an orchestral first violinist (not that easy a part) but what a thrill. You feel like you are participating in the Apocalypse. Maybe if you get it right, it will actually happen. (Russian composer and mystic Nikolai Obukhov believed that if he composed perfectly enough, he'd bring about the Second Coming. I think he left out an accidental or two.) Antandrus (talk) 23:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Probably ;) - My first encounter with the Verdi (besides listening to others) was a Summer Sing-along, and the Earth seemed to move in Libera me when I tried to sight-read. The second was listening to a Tanglewood rehearsal, Christoph Eschenbach conducting, and I had a child with me whose head was suddenly on my lap when the Dies Irae began. Then singing with rehearsals - pictured. Then singing once more with a COVID-appropriate small ensemble, marimba and such. I forgot a brief encounter with Eschenbach after he conducted Bruckner's Sixth in Rome for the Pope, the Bishops' Conference and some like me and my friends (who were in town in 2008 to sing Haydn and Vivaldi in concert the previous day), wanted to fill the hall to improve the accoustics. I told him that I liked his Verdi in T., and he smiled and said "Ich auch." - Mozart in concert at the pictured place coming soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:35, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I began another day of vacation pics, with the deepest blue of the sea ;) - we celebrate the birthday of a friend who wrote quite a book about the compositions of a man who will turn 300 soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:06, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My story today is - repeated - a DYK hook from 13 years ago OTD: about the great music at one of my churches. Mozart's Requiem to come on Sunday, coupled with Arvo Pärt's Da pacem Domine, - I guess you might come if it was a bit closer. Perhaps watch the video of our last production, our first on yt, ever. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
... and it was good, User Talk:Gerda Arendt#Mozart Requiem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
in memoriam Jerome Kohl who said (In Freundschaft): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your six-month protection just ended and the LTA is back [4] Meters (talk) 22:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the second time... already blocked once. Meters (talk) 22:19, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Damn that person is persistent. - Protected again for six months; will extend if necessary. Thanks - Antandrus (talk) 23:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

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December music

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December songs
story · music

Today's story is about Maria Callas, on her centenary. - Aaron Copland died OTD, and Jerome Kohl said something wise on his talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A new church year began, - a new era? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about parts of my life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I managed to get the pics to snow (on 28 Nov), and heard a lovely concert, after listening to a miracle of meditative dreaming on 6 December (or just click on music). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

... and today, to Paris (29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match the story of Medea Amiranashvili, - don't miss listening to her expressive voice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story today is about Michael Robinson, - it's an honor to have known him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Christmas music pictured --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:30, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Holiday Greetings

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Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ―Buster7 
Thank you Buster7 - and happiest of holiday seasons to you and yours as well! - Antandrus (talk) 18:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

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Happy Holidays, Antandrus

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May you have very Happy Holidays ...

and a safe New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music.



Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 12:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Voceditenore, and the happiest of holidays to you and yours as well! May the coming year be one of abundant music and happiness. Antandrus (talk) 17:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new catalogue of his works was introduced, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a "DYK" today, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would love to see that production! I'm going to see a Don Giovanni soon, but have been hoping for a local Figaro. Antandrus (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Come any time! - On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places
Today a friend's birthday, with related music and new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Euromaidan (Ukrainian protests 2013-present has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 20 § Euromaidan (Ukrainian protests 2013-present until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

CheckUser changes

removed Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous


LA Meetup: February 17, 2024

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Edit-a-thon and Wikipedia Day Celebration

Please join Wikimedians of Los Angeles on Saturday, February 17 from 12:00 to 4:00 pm for a Los Angeles and West Hollywood-themed edit-a-thon at the West Hollywood Library. (For the details and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/Los Angeles/February 2024.)

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We hope to see you there! JSFarman via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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February music

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My calendar story today is about Michael Herrmann celebrating his birthday. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

same kind of birthday for Josef Protschka --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow - that's the boy's voice? Love that piece. I have certainly tried to imitate parts of it in my own work now and again. - Just got back from the San Diego Opera production of Don Giovanni, by the way. Very moving. Modern staging, on a limited budget (as it often is). How it is possible to be a scoundrel with a heroic and defiant end. Much to think about, and we were out carousing afterwards, but no trap doors opened with demons to drag us down to the underworld; we just went home and fell asleep. So it goes in life. Antandrus (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you - haven't seen Don Giovanni in ages, but Figaro - new GMD chose that for his debut at Oper Frankfurt, also playing piano-forte, and a playful staging for many laughs - and Ascanio in Alba, interesting modern staging but more interesting singing (article about protagonist begun yesterday). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... and today a woman and her views --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... and for Valentine's Day an invitation to the theatre where they first played Elegy for Young Lovers --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sad that people die, subjects and in real life: Vami_IV, - that was a shock. - Today's story, however, celebrates a woman's birthday. She sat right in front of me when I took the picture at a lovely concert, celebrating her son's 60th. I thought she was 90 today, - no, 91 already. You can listen, starting at the piece he dedicated to her, Op. 1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Masdar

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Hi Antandrus. I noticed that you are a participant in the Wiki Project:Energy, so perhaps you would be interested in adding the name of the CEO of Masdar to the company's Wiki page, according to the edit request I posted at Talk:Masdar#Add CEO to History. Thanks so much. GreenDrake28 (talk) 10:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Antandrus (talk) 15:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Antandrus. Could you kindly have a look at a more recent edit request I posted at Talk:Masdar#Project_Inclusion,_Revised. If you feel the requested edits improve the article, I would appreciate if you could implement. Thanks so much. GreenDrake28 (talk) 12:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings - responded there. I'll add the section(s) relatively soon. Antandrus (talk) 23:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous


Sock?

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Might be good faith, but seems very suspicious. OhNoitsJamie Talk 19:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jamie - my feeling is not either the usual LTA on that page, or the one for whom the filter was designed. Stylistic reasons. Thanks for noticing! I rather wish we had a separate ping for filter hits (maybe there is one in preferences somewhere I never noticed). Antandrus (talk) 19:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, agree that style is very different, but the hits about that topic on your talk page caught my eye. One of these days I'm going to figure out a way to get push notifications from my filters (maybe Discord?) Cheers, OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March music

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in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... and the premiere of Nabucco --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... and of Rossini's Petite messe solennelle, on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I love his late music - if anything I think the "Sins of old age" are greatly underrated. He went through such a tough patch before coming back to Paris. We all need to go back to Paris now and then, so to speak. Antandrus (talk) 22:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I once sang it one my birthday, in a small group with three altos, - a wonderful experience. Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:38, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Next day, around Porto da Cruz, on Bach's birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
a few new pics, and two people for DYK --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
some more pics - look for a bird! - I listen to Bach's St John Passion today, - 300 years after it was first performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two days later in time, a different music, - Happy Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say thank you

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for all the hard work over the years! 2600:1002:B026:1635:0:4F:148B:F001 (talk) 05:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - appreciate it. Antandrus (talk) 14:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concerto delle donne query

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Hey there! Hope you're well—haven't spoken in a while! If your time and interest permits, I wondered whether you could took a look at the Concerto delle donne article. Its just gone through some changes/improvements while at FAR, and am wondering what else it could use/if there are issues. Aza24 (talk) 00:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aza! Excellent choice of topic. (I worked with User:Mindspillage on the original, but that was so long ago they were probably still singing.) I will look. As I'm sure you know, northern Italy at the very end of the 16th century was one of the best places to be a woman in music (in Europe anyway, and as long as you stayed away from axe murderers) for several hundred years. Fascinating and turbulent time; wouldn't it be fun to have a time machine and actually hear them? Reminds me that Luzzaschi was my first ever Wikipedia article, 2004. If I ever get around to it I'll go back and expand it. Antandrus (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! It is indeed a fascinating social enclave or sorts—and yes, I'm sure they were incredible to hear live. Plus, full time choristers focused on new music? Sign me up. Aza24 (talk) 07:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

User Page

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Hello,
I am re-working my User Page and adore the design of yours.
I know that per CC, I can just use your user page design without permission, but I would like to make sure you are fine with it, first.
Are you fine wih me borrowing significantly from your User Page?
Thanks, I can do stuff! (talk) 00:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Icandostuff - absolutely - no problem at all. Actually lots of people have borrowed the design (not by me, by the way - it was done by User:Phaedriel who used to design user pages, but she's long gone from Wikipedia). Have fun! Antandrus (talk) 01:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Antandrus
I was a bit confused by the mention of Phaedriel, as I assumed you based it off of her User Page, and not that she made it, but that makes much more sense.
I can do stuff! (talk) 01:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

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Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society

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Dear Antandrus,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. ​

Best regards, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 01:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— The Herald (Benison) (talk) 01:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! I do believe I will join. Thank you! - where has the time gone. I still remember a time when I'd tell someone I edited "Wikipedia" for fun, and they'd say - "what's that?" Antandrus (talk) 02:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places
Congratulations! Thank you for lasting contributions! - These little flowers are called Schlüsselblumen in German, which would be Key flowers, - they are mentioned in a recitative of the St John Passion as representing the key to heaven. (The premiere was 300 years ago this year, and I proposed to mention that on the Main page on Good Friday, but found no key to the hearts of those responsible, - if the premiere was on 7 April, it has to be on 7 April. I hope not.) Looking for keys elsewhere as well, for Copland and Vivaldi, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. How do you like the compromise in the composer's infobox? - How do you like the statue (look up places) - I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! I love that piece, by the way. Have performed it multiple times (as a violinist); the most terrifying is the chamber version, because everything is so exposed, and it's easier than you might think to screw up all those meter changes. But it's so beautiful. - On another matter, I wish we had a better system for mental health care here in the United States. That person leaving the abusive obscenities has a severe and disabling disorder. Shouldn't say too much but I'm working off-wiki to get it to stop permanently. I don't want to hurt him, just put him somewhere he can get help. - We're getting a terrific bloom this year, because the rains came a little late, and the warm weather held off; I'll be doing some nature adventures in the coming couple weeks, and then off to the big city to see some operas. - Infoboxes look clean and presentable. :) Antandrus (talk) 18:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - Being your friend got me several entries on my talk here (revdel), more on my talk on Simple English (reverted) and today 2 emails. If I get more of the letter I'll disable email. Bloom is terrific here as well, pics to come. Did you see the little video at the end of my story today? Article needs support on WP:ITNN, hint hint. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today I see Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
followed by two birthdays in a row, and I prefer those (see my talk) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
images of a flock of sheep that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
today you can look at the last three stories or "music" on my talk: the same topics, Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, Samuel Kummer and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

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Thank you @The Herald:! I had almost forgotten. Nineteen years in the fun zone. To anyone watching my page, thinking about becoming an admin: writing articles is considerably more fun. And frankly, anyone for whom blocking and banning are "fun" probably shouldn't be one. But I state the obvious. I think. Antandrus (talk) 04:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

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Thank you! Appreciate it. :) Antandrus (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A goat for you!

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loved ur userpage!

luxlunar (talk) 21:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I love goats. We use them where I live to clear vegetation before the fire season. I feed them oranges. :) Antandrus (talk) 21:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Likely "Projects" hit

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Quack. ArticleImproved created to restore [5] a NOTAFORUM page edit edit by two IPs. One of the IPs is already blocked as a proxy, and earlier made a NOTAFORUM edit to a boxing talk page [6] that mentioned Marciano, and was referenced to an archive of an earlier boxing edit. Meters (talk) 22:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to mention that one of the supposed sources for the first talk page edits is also a diff to an old talk apge edit on WikiNews. Meters (talk) 22:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm traveling and not checking in as often - looks like someone else took care of that one. Thanks for following up. Antandrus (talk) 07:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

Administrator changes

readded Nyttend
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Bureaucrat changes

removed Nihonjoe

CheckUser changes

readded Joe Roe

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removed GeneralNotability

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


May music

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Thank you for the protection, - perhaps also watch talk archives? User talk:Gerda Arendt/2009 - Some pics around the concert with the basses are your reward ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ugggh, sorry about that, it's bad enough that he targets me (anywhere from 10 to 100 harassments per day, plus his endless attempts to guess my password) but that he spreads his hate to anyone who is friendly to me - I wish we had a better mental health care system here in the US to deal with the severely ill. I'm working with Chicago-area law enforcement to put a permanent end to this but it takes time. Ljupco, if you are reading this, and you always do, I know you cannot comprehend your own delusional psychosis, but you ought to stop harassing us now because we are going to stop you.
Gerda, thank you for the pics and music as usual :) Antandrus (talk) 14:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you - my brother is the one with the German name ;) - rehearsal for the Sunday Bach concert tonight!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
now archive 11 - perhaps protect them all? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). The closest was in the paper. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
yesterday's story remembered an oratorio world premiere I was in, conducted by the composer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I heard lovely chamber music today, and the DYK mentions "profoundly human" singing (that you can watch), connected to a place where we'll sing in September --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful, Gerda. - I recently heard a glorious performance of Madame Butterfly in San Diego. Had to laugh (as I always do) at how well Puccini captures an archetypal awful American character. Post-pandemic the audiences are coming back, which is good, but they're not taking the risks they did years ago: back around the time I first started editing Wikipedia we saw a Wozzeck there, and it's still one of the finest opera performances I've ever gone to. Up there with the Achim Freyer Ring in Los Angeles. Speaking of butterflies, it's May and I'm sore from working outside in the garden. :) Antandrus (talk) 22:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to improve Freyer's article when I saw his version of Jephtha in Wiesbaden. Help wanted ;) - Can you watch the DYK tenor, please? I just reverted nonsense, but need sleep. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok :) Antandrus (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. - I liked seeing Erschallet, ihr Lieder on the Main page today, 310 years after the first performance! We sang it in 2000. Today's program was easier but also spirited. I found a nice video of "I will sing with the spirit", with nature photography, - enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story is my little contribution to Trinity Sunday, with a church named after the Trinity (which I'd have liked to see pictured, and what would be a good description of that kind of facade? "splendid" was reverted) and a cantata Bach conducted 300 years ago for the occasion (having composed it 9 years earlier). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is splendid, and that is the word I would use to describe it, but alas this is Wikipedia where we must be dull in our descriptions unless we quote, paraphrase, or break the rules. One of the reasons I've always avoided my primary expertise, e.g. late Beethoven, is I can't use the words I want to use to describe things, and always having to look up what other people have written becomes tedious. - Anyway, it is a splendid photograph of a splendid church on a splendid spring day with an adequate but adjective-free facade. I spent the morning polishing a couple pieces from the Das wohltemperierte Klavier, book I. It is my opinion, that I will not add to the article, that the E-flat minor prelude he wrote in mourning on the death of his first wife in 1720. Imagine returning from a long trip to discover this. Rhetorically the gestures resemble the D minor Chaconne, which uncoincidentally he wrote around the same time. - I have sinned and committed original research, but this is my talk page. Antandrus (talk) 21:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
splendid, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story - 2013 was when the article's infobox was discussed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

9/11 Discussion

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Is there a way to bring my discussion thread regarding the info box photos on the September 11th talk page back to focus? The discussion that has been taking place for most of today has sent my thread pretty far back. I think it's important to come to a permanent consensus regarding the photos displayed on the September 11th page's info box. I would try to handle it myself, but I am afraid it'd be breaking Wikipedia's rules. Butterscotch5 (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Butterscotch5 - I think that one will come back into focus as soon as the current kerfluffle over "Islamist" dies down. For what it's worth, consensus supports the previous images so they can be changed back any time (since no one else has come to support the change to the 'more violent' images). I'll probably do it myself after a day or two. Another thing you can do is just post a followup comment, e.g. "anyone else have an opinion about this?" Antandrus (talk) 17:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 8, 2024

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The Return of the LA Wiknic
Eat, drink, and bask in the glory of Los Angeles in early June at the 9th not-annual Wiknic!

Saturday, June 8 from 11:30 to 2:30 pm
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June music

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Today's story is about the TFA, by sadly missed Vami_IV. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to Schloss Köthen next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin the year. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy today's story, related to my topic of the year: 300 years Bach's chorale cantatas, and the first was written for today, - listen to the music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent! - I didn't know that. Antandrus (talk) 21:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a lovely performance. Funny that "Donnerwort" sounds to me like a character from the Ring, maybe to come out and bang on something while a rainbow bridge goes up. One of my favorite cantatas, by the way. I revere that music so much I almost hesitate to say it. Just astonishing that it exists at all. Antandrus (talk) 21:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - Donner means thunder, as you probably know. - I wanted it for the Main page, OTD, but they said, no, it can only appear 11 Jun (and I said no to that idea). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A favorite writer of mine! When I took German in grad school I translated one of his short stories. - A lot of people miss just how funny he is, but admittedly his humor is not for all tastes, and his metaphors work on so many levels. If you read The Trial when you are very young, you may miss something that becomes clear to a more mature person: Joseph K. is guilty as hell. And some of his short stories are so strange they resist conventional interpretation completely. Antandrus (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. - Today's story is about an extraordinary biography, Peter Demetz, also from Prague. - I uploaded a few more pics but leave the link, because there's a new one of Graham and his mother who liked it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New pics of spectacular weather, with Donner. Another interesting person: Alexander Lang. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful! - here, the Ojai Festival; we're heading there shortly. I like living close to it. Mitsuko Uchida is director this year. Mozart, Schoenberg, Sofia Gubaidulina, Kaija Saariaho, lots of others. I wonder if I can get a decent picture of Mitsuko. Antandrus (talk) 21:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That would be lovely! - Today I wanted to write a happy song story, on a friend's birthday, but instead we have the word of thunder on top of it. - The new lilypond - thanks to DanCherek - is quite impressive. As my 2 Jun story said: Bach was fired up. - Today's Main page is rich in music, also Franz Liszt and a conductor. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect, just what I needed, thank you! - isn't the Netherlands Bach Society wonderful? They're among the best around. - Incidentally I recently finished reading Ulysses - my second time through cover to cover. Stunning book, and it made so much more sense to me than it did in my early 20s. (Actually some of the strangest and most powerful events are after midnight, i.e. 17 June. "The heaventree of stars hung with humid nightblue fruit." I love that book.) Carry on the good work Gerda, ignore the trolls and be grateful you do not suffer their afflictions. If I could snap my fingers and heal that guy's mental illness I would. - Nice cool day on the California coast and I think I'll go for a walk. :) Antandrus (talk) 16:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to have provided what you needed! I was asked when I read Ulysses through last time and had to say never. New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. - The pics at least have nightblue, but before midnight as the clock shows. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today we have a centenarian story (documentation about it by Percy Adlon) and an article that had two sentences yesterday and was up for deletion, and needs a few more citations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
sad story today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2024

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July music

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The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to three items of music: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, the bass and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about an outstanding violinist from Georgia, which is a sad story in the end. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I remember today Bach's 1724 cantata for this Sunday which is unusual in many respects. Another woman needs attention for RD, Marina Kondratyeva. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She's on the Main page now. My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday I listened in concert to Mozart's Clarinet Quintet, with Sabine Meyer: a delight, and very intimate (yt with same people). - Today's story is about Ruth Hesse, with a pic in the article only, sadly. I found it difficult to point at a YouTube sample, because yes, her signature roles - the Nurse and Brangäne - exist in great full-length operas with great casts, but hard to find her. - Talking of YouTube: today I was pointed at Elijah by a friend who performed in the concert of the Dessoff Choirs in their centenary year, and I'm quite impressed by samples (beginning and No. 32 where I linked it) - enjoy! --(forgot to sign)

Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... and today's story begins with Psalm 124, paraphrased in 1524, and put to five (!) chorale settings in 1724, for this Sunday. Nominated for GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a look at music (on my talk) shows remembrance of three people who died, and creating an article or improving one is all I can do. Three are on the Main page today, and three others planned ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another look at music: three women there. The Main page also has a Mozart symphony I love, and my story was connected not only to Max Reger's death in 1916, remembered in 2016, but also the death of a friend who - and we around him - knew he was dying when he listened to the concert which was his last time leaving home, and music from Reger's Requiem was played for his funeral three months later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ps: per the same header, I was taken to the July entry 2023 - with the same music reflected ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On Bach's day of death my story is about his cantata Was frag ich nach der Welt, BWV 94, although the article needs work. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 July 30b will have a baritone, a violinist, a composer and a Bach cantata, - almost too much, and the composer's article, Wolfgang Rihm, should be better, help wanted. - Plenty of music on my parents anniversary day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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hi, why did you close my discussion here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks im not that blocked user - i have raised some valid arguments which not raised before it shouldn't be closed. Gsgdd (talk) 06:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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GRP reporting in steward requests/global

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I’ve changed the paragraph to say that reporting GRP to SRG should be a last resort, since there’s an abuse filter that prevents this. However I’m not sure if you would recommend those instructions to people because 1. A lot of are used to SRG for reporting LTAs and 2. IRC isn’t easy for everyone to use the first time. What are your thoughts? Cyclonical (talk) 07:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reporting accounts is fine. but reporting IPs to SRG is pointless since they become stale very quickly. That's why the filter exists. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 13:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes - report accounts, not IPs. There might be rare exceptions, but even the ones that geolocate to Chicago, ... um WP:BEANS. I'd say accounts only. - As an aside, on another LTA, I've noticed Wikinger is more active recently in both imitating GRP and pretending to fight him. In so doing he often refers to "w:pl:chicago" or "w:pl:boys" or some other shortcuts. Those are garbage - they are a confused mass of Wikinger's style and obsessions with an alleged origin in Chicago, and are meant to confuse us. I haven't looked through the history (in Polish) to see what is going on, but any time you see one of those shortcuts it's Wikinger cackling to himself about confusing us. Antandrus (talk) 14:53, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. I've copy-edited the paragraph a bit. I noticed that Wikinger usually targets the plwiki pretty often while GRP targets the users he doesn't really like. It's honestly sad if I have to say so myself. Cyclonical (talk) 22:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed there. (They're both, um, ... unwell. I shouldn't speculate on their exact mental disorders but can't help myself, maybe out of a mix of amusement and pity. Or maybe I'm just a terrible person. Wikinger's characteristic clanging says something.) Antandrus (talk) 23:14, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean - the things they do really give me the impression that they are, well, unwell. That doesn't make you a terrible person. I don't think any "normal", or let's say, other person, would disrupt an encyclopedia for like over 15 years. Very clearly, something has be going on with them that just makes them persist and persist with what they're doing, even if it's for amusement or pity. I can't help but speculate about their mental disorders as well. Cyclonical (talk) 23:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He's been so quiet lately. Sudden change of heart? XXBlackburnXx (talk) 12:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. And the last time I saw him visit he was on a mobile device. I'm supposed to get a notification from law enforcement if they arrest him, but have not. Antandrus (talk) 15:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Came back, but this time with a static IP address from a public location: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specjalna:Wk%C5%82ad/50.171.148.90. The only logical explanation I can think of is that he might have smashed his own computer to pieces. XXBlackburnXx (talk) 16:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's something he's completely capable of doing. I wonder if the neighbors heard the smash. I know they've complained about the shouting. Antandrus (talk) 16:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... and they're back. How long will it take them to realize that this amount of disruption will get them nowhere? Kurnahusa (talk) 20:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. - He will stop when he is in an institution that prohibits inmates from using the internet, and probably not before. Putting him in one is turning out to be a heavier lift than I expected. There are, of course, other unpleasant possibilities. His caretaker is not in good health, for example, and Chicago is a lousy place to be homeless. Antandrus (talk) 22:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Watch the pages I created on the simple wiki, and also my talk - I regret making that talk page on the Archie Moore article, since I'm now a potential target. Kurnahusa (talk) 23:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks ok now. Anyone who reverts one of his edits is a potential target, and that includes now hundreds of people. He's also somewhat distracted because the troll wiki "Encyclopedia Dramatica" is featuring him. (I confess to being amused, in a dark sort of way, but am otherwise uninvolved.) - Remember he is one deranged person with a laptop and an internet connection, cared for by his mother, and has neither the resources nor the ability to do more than yell incoherent abuse online. If I could wave a magic wand and cure him I would. Right now he is far angrier at the ED people who researched his history than he is at you, me, or the good folks on the anti-vandalism battlements. Antandrus (talk) 01:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2024

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August music

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A lake in the Yosemite wilderness - there were no people here other than me

Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow - fascinating. Imagine playing the same pipes Praetorius loved. (I wish I could play one of those historic organs. Obviously, that's not a thing where I live.) - I do need to visit some of those places in Europe that have them. Everyone else can go to beer parties, I want to hear an organ concert. Antandrus (talk) 15:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think I remember an instrument in LA, - check the list, perhaps by his son but same tradition. And yes, please come some day. St. Valentin in Kiedrich has one of the oldest playable organs in Germany, and is only half an hour by car from where I live. - ... and a third "musician", like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)--[reply]
On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extrordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
today's story is about education, 10 years OTD after lecturing our founder). Music for today's feast is Monteverdi's, the best concert we ever did (so pictured again on my talk), but it wasn't recorded, substituted with a "Pacific" one that comes with subtitles line by line in Latin and English: I learned something! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story is about a stage director, - watch Aida, so tender so cruel. -- (forgot to sign)
Sunday story about another of Bach's chorale cantatas, listen, as I listened to two impressive very different choral concerts, - music by 16 composers. In the latest cloudy pictures: a hidden deer, a cat and a blaze of a sunset. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Help? My story today is about a woman, nominated for RD but needing support as I write this. A composer died whose article is long and mostly unreferenced. And some articles open for review, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today is the birthday of Alma Mahler. I believe that Siegfried Lorenz should be mentioned on the Main page among the Recent deaths. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Needless to say, @Gerda Arendt:, the first thing I thought of was Tom Lehrer's song, and lo - there it is in your description. Laughed out loud. Antandrus (talk) 21:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to hear that. Same as last year ;) - and not by me. I tried a different hook with her, for Schönberg's Op. 1, but it wasn't accepted. As this. - The singer appeared! For the last days I tried to improve Alexander Goehr, for the same purpose. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, by the way, I have been in the mountains, in some of the most spectacularly beautiful places in the United States. Spending time in natural locations like this, for me, works better than therapy. I know you also enjoy such outings. And at 3000 meters, the air is thin and cool. See the picture under your flowers. It snowed the day I left. Antandrus (talk) 22:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How beautiful! Remember the last trip to Yosemite (October 1993) - arrived, slept, and woke up to heavy snow on the golden leaves. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A hello and request

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Hey there! Could you consider adding indef semi to John Koukouzeles? IPs have been edit-warring about his nationality repeatedly for a few years now.

Are you keeping okay? I've found myself at work on Binchois—incredible songs, to say the least! Aza24 (talk) 22:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aza! - sure thing, done. Nice work on Binchois; yet another 15th-century composer whose bio needs an upgrade. - I've been doing great! Just got back from the mountains, i.e. Yosemite (see my response to Gerda just above, with a picture; meant to climb Mt Dana this year but it actually started snowing, so that's a hard no). Busy with lots of non-wiki stuff, like working on a little composition commission. I don't know if you use Finale or not, but they just dropped a bomb on us; program being discontinued, so I'm migrating to a new program, ugh. Life is a succession of moments where as soon as you become expert at one thing, you find you are a noob at something else even more important. There's an essay there I think. Antandrus (talk) 23:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so! Finale was my go-to scorewriter for a decade. I'm on the luckier side in that I decided to ditch it for Dorico just half a year ago, but the news is still troubling (and my Dorico familiarity remains rusty)!
Yosemite sounds lovely. I found myself in Yellowstone earlier this summer, which was absolutely incredible. Debating over which national park should be next on the list... and Yosemite is certainly a contender Aza24 (talk) 00:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have you been to Bryce Canyon? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, good idea! Aza24 (talk) 19:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've only been there briefly. Stunning place. Antandrus (talk) 19:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And once you are there, you get also Zion and Arches. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And of course the musical one, topic of one of my better DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2024

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September music

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Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy because my story today is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk)

Happier about Bach's cantata on the Main page on its 300th birthday (per calendar), my story (again)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Three stories related to today in memory, 11 September, 20 July and 20 June, the latter piece of art also pictured on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with a DYK hook from 2010 and another from 2014, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My story today is about a man who played jazz when it was banned by the Nazis, - you can listen to how they played it later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114, is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My story today features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful music, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you revdel the edit summaries on Rebecca black (redirect); it seems like someone doesn’t like me today. Thanks! Kurnahusa (talk) 00:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I wonder who that might have been. lol. (Now waiting for "Friday" to start playing on infinite loop in my head.) Antandrus (talk) 01:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today someone tried to litter but they were caught doing so. I unfortunately couldn’t clean up everything so could you help me? Thank you :) Kurnahusa (talk) 05:18, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's done now but let me know if there are others. Sad case, that guy. Antandrus (talk) 14:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Had to deal with a screaming baby at Boris Krčmar, again, since I lost a pacifier. Kurnahusa (talk) 05:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now at https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ion_(disambiguation)&action=history and https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Judi&action=history. Very sad case… XXBlackburnXx (talk) 17:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He has mercenaries? Who knew, right? - Law enforcement told me they were on it, but that was months ago. I don't think this kind of case ever makes it to the top of their priority list, unfortunately. Antandrus (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Uhh, I've noticed this user SleepyHollowGuy1999 and their other accounts add some weird stuff to articles for the past couple of months, for example GreatSpeedyGreatSpeedy. Just today one of their accounts, Comtenamed0, admitted that they are the Sleepy Hollow guy. I kind of suspect that it's L.S. (which stands for Los Santos) but I'm not sure. Kurnahusa (talk) 01:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's an LTA I'm not familiar with at all. I saw those edits on Clyde Bruckman, thinking it was going to be our mouthy friend in Chicago, but it isn't, and the account is already globally blocked. Antandrus (talk) 02:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – October 2024

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October music

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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

today Rohan de Saram - unbelievable story --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:22, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I love the Arditti quartet. I don't think I ever heard them live, but I lose track. Have some of their recordings. Antandrus (talk) 22:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same for me. The other day I heard the Armida Quartet, was impressed and thought I never heard them before, and it had been just a few weeks earlier. - Today I remember an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:41, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today brought a timely promotion of Helmut Bauer to the Main page on the day when pieces from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... and today of Amaury du Closel and his good cause, - and Jacques Arcadelt, begun by you, is remembered on the same page, and all DYK on my user page (but the last one which explains what's pictured in my user's infobox) are somehow related to a dear friend's birthday, - we met over her conducting Suscepit Israel and became family. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:15, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, De profundis. My favorite. The setting by Lassus in the Penitential Psalms is sublime (I had intended to write an article on that, long ago - maybe someday I'll get around to it) - the two by Josquin are so good, but I think one of those is of questionable attribution. I'm sure you know the setting by Arvo Pärt, right? I like singing along with the bass. :) Antandrus (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you! - My story today is about a composer and choir conductor, listen to his Lamento. - My story on 13 October was about a Bach cantata. As this place works, it's on the Main page now because of the date. I sort of like it because today is the birth date of my grandfather who loved and grew dahlias like those pictured. He sang with a voice beyond bass ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another composer, born OTD, from Japan, and I listened once to a world premiere. Voiceless Voice of Hiroshima should have an article. An this soprano. Or not? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you followed to a rich day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I just wanted to say that without your user page I wouldn't have been able to design mine. Thank you! harrz talk 21:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks - appreciate that. It was originally designed by User:Phaedriel back in the WikiCretaceous, i.e. 2006 or 2007 or so. She was a great web designer. Antandrus (talk) 22:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, looking at her page I can tell she was great! Seriously, thanks both of you, without the two of you my page wouldn't look nearly as clean! harrz talk 22:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I’m sure you’re probably tired of having to deal with this guy all the time and I was just coming by to say we may or may not have some useful info on this person, such as his home IP (no proxy). Please respond if you would like to see this information. I’m only coming to you about this because he’s also been targeting Encyclopedia Dramatica who has since began documenting GRP’s entire life. Koualska (talk) 17:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Koualska - by all means drop me an email for anything private. I admit I've been following the ED saga for a couple months now with morbid amusement. (Have not contributed, just lurked.) Shouldn't laugh, but um, sometimes it's the healthiest response, right? Antandrus (talk) 17:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i completely understand lol, but glad to know you’re also aware of whats going on over at ED as well. i’ll send you some info we have on him here in a moment Koualska (talk) 17:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
your emails seem to be disabled, but what i was gonna tell you is that we found another ip of his, and that he’s been using that same ip to make numerous socks on ED, this information was obtained earlier this morning from a checkuser. the IP is in the block log of ED from today. Koualska (talk) 17:37, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

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memories -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't look at that piece without thinking about the Berg Violin Concerto. - Which is always a nice thing to think about. To the memory of an angel. Antandrus (talk) 23:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
exactly - heard last in Marburg, and created the article of the violinist, and before in Salzburg (as a gift from friends who lived there), with Herbert Blomstedt stepping in for Harnoncourt, imagine, - so forgot the violinist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:28, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story relates to 2 meanings of 9 Nov, - imagine: I found a DYK I liked from 2006, before my time here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - Madeleine Riffaud - remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Thanksgiving! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And a happy Thanksgiving to you, Gerda! - my favorite holiday. Gratitude, appreciation, a day when we (hopefully) leave the carping and complaining and whining aside. It is a good thing to be alive on earth. And Wikipedia, after all, ain't so bad. I am grateful for it, and for you and others who build, rather than tear down; this is the community ethic which is the core of civilization. And what an antidote to cynicism it is. Antandrus (talk) 00:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, and I agree! - I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, you recently deleted a revision at Talk:Larry Griffin (disambiguation) with the reason "garbage from WMF-banned LTA". Since then, two more, very similar additions have been made to the page by two other IPs, and I just wanted to let you know about it, in case you want to delete those revisions as well or block the IPs. Felida97 (talk) 13:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you for letting me know! - done. Antandrus (talk) 18:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Felida97 (talk) 18:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our old friend

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Is currently up to the usual shenanigans over at Talk:Griffin (disambiguation). I don't really have the time these years to keep an eye on such things, so if you could monitor that one for me I'd be much obliged. Frankly that page could probably use some revdel too, but I'll leave that to your discretion. I hope you're doing well. 184.152.68.190 (talk) 02:54, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - done. He reminds me of one of those ancient 1970s cars that keeps chugging along on two cylinders and a cloud of smoke and never ever stops. Antandrus (talk) 03:20, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And now I'm going to have that image in my head everytime I revert him
Thanks for cleaning up the vandalism on my user talk page earlier. 184.152.68.190 (talk) 21:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – December 2024

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December music

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Today's story comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today: listen to Sequenza XIV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Timeline Classical Composers 20th Century has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]