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==History==
i think the history seems quite contervesial with "billion years,drift thoery" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.90.245.87|72.90.245.87]] ([[User talk:72.90.245.87|talk]]) 01:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Climate ==
The facts about the climate of New Jersey is so bad, to compare with the Swedish Wikipedia and some others site.
Write down more about the climate and more specific. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.192.53.180|68.192.53.180]] ([[User talk:68.192.53.180|talk]]) 04:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* I agree. The climate table is quite confusing. am I getting it right? first number is temperature in Fahrenheit, while the second (in baces) is in Celsius(metric system)? --[[Special:Contributions/84.60.5.123|84.60.5.123]] ([[User talk:84.60.5.123|talk]]) 11:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
For my edit, I meant decidious forests. [[User:Press olive, win oil|Press olive, win oil]] ([[User talk:Press olive, win oil|talk]]) 14:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


== Music- Ben Vaughn ==
== 5th smallest state ==


Should be 4th smallest state [[Special:Contributions/2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4|2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4]] ([[User talk:2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4|talk]]) 12:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
avant-Folk musician Ben Vaughn, who often comments on NPR, is from the town of Collingswood, and should be included in the music section. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.69.230.27|75.69.230.27]] ([[User talk:75.69.230.27|talk]]) 02:27, 24 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:@[[Special:Contributions/2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4|2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4]] Source?? [[user:Lemonaka|<span style="color:blue; text-shadow:jet 0 0.2em 0.2em; font-family:Segoe Print; font-size: 13px">-Lemonaka</span>]] 03:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
:You'll need to give a source for this info. There are those who say that it's [https://state.1keydata.com/states-by-size.php 4th-smallest by land area], but it's [https://statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/national-us/uncategorized/states-size 5th-smallest by total area], which is what is [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2022/12/09/what-largest-state-us-size-states-land-area/8083288001/ generally used]. <span style="font-family: Courier; background-color: black; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:Lindsey40186|<span style="color: white"><b>Lindsey40186</b></span>]] [[User talk:Lindsey40186|<span style="color: white">(talk)</span>]]</span> 04:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request ==


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This may only be important to me but I think the song "Jersey Girl" should definitely be listed under Bruce Springsteens songs.[[User:Grace08863|Grace08863]] ([[User talk:Grace08863|talk]]) 05:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
In the History section, please remove the sentence “ Around 180 million years ago, during the Jurassic Period, New Jersey bordered North Africa.” This is not mentioned in the source provided. Also please add the subheading of “Prehistoric era”. [[Special:Contributions/2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA|2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA]] ([[User talk:2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA|talk]]) 22:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


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== Size ==


== 12th or 11th most populous? ==
I know this was discussed before, but at 105K, this article is an ogre. I'm going to tread lightly at first, cutting only material that is obviously too detailed for this article, such as the personal backgrounds of each of New Jersey's Declaration of Independence signers. Please keep in mind that there are daughter articles for a reason. [[User:AlexiusHoratius|AlexiusHoratius]] ([[User talk:AlexiusHoratius|talk]]) 14:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


The article currently claims that NJ is the 12th most populous state, although it recently said 11th. This is strange, given this claim links to the article showing [[List of U.S. states and territories by population|states by population]], which puts NJ at 11th. What's with the discrepancy? [[User:FiveInParticular|FiveInParticular]] ([[User talk:FiveInParticular|talk]]) 22:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
== NJ's bad reputation ==


== Citation missing in first paragraph ==
NJ has a bad rep, and gets made fun of a lot - particularly by New Yorkers. (I'm from NY, FWIW...)


There should be a citation for the fact stated in the first paragraph of the article that New Jersey is the only state for which every county is deemed urban by the US Census Bureau. Is it certain that this fact is true? [[Special:Contributions/73.153.196.210|73.153.196.210]] ([[User talk:73.153.196.210|talk]]) 07:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
I was wondering: why? When did this start?


:The citation for this is in the second paragraph of [[New_Jersey#Population]]. Per [[MOS:LEADCITE]], {{tq|Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.}} [[User:Kire1975|Kire1975]] ([[User talk:Kire1975|talk]]) 07:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
The article doesn't cover this except for one mention about Futurama. [[User:Saizai|<span style="color:#006633;font-weight:bold;">Sai Emrys</span>]] [[User_talk:Saizai|<span style="color:#0066CC;font-size:0.75em;">¿?</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Saizai|<span style="color:#663300;">✍</span>]] 08:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
::The archived citation that is linked for the fact that "New Jersey is the only state for which every count is deemed urban" is a page from 1999 that shows all the metropolitan areas and components within the US. I have two concerns:
::1. Is it true that if a county belongs to a metropolitan area that it is deemed urban? I believe that the Census Bureau has a separate designation for whether an area is deemed "urban," and these areas do not necessarily follow county lines. For example, here are the areas of Delaware that are designated as either an urban cluster or an urbanized area:
::https://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dph/hp/files/ruralurban.pdf
::Similarly, here is an interactive map that shows the urban areas in New Jersey:
::https://njogis-newjersey.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/NJDOT::urbanized-areas/explore
::Both of these maps show some amount of urban area in every county of both states.
::2. If we do indeed just want to use the fact that all of New Jersey's counties belong to some Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), then I notice in the archived citation from 1999 that all five counties in Rhode Island belong to the Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA Metropolitan Statistical Area. New Jersey is not the only state for which each county belongs to an MSA. [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478|2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478]] ([[User talk:2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478|talk]]) 18:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


== Grammatical error ==
Perhaps you're unaware that NY also has a bad rep, and gets made fun of a lot? Even New Jerseyans who enjoy visiting now and then often marvel that anyone would be willing to live there. It's a mutual thing, largely perpetuated by poor and unsophisticated people on both sides, who never get to experience the better aspects of life on the other side, only the awful ones. I'd guess it began during the War of Independence, when New York sided with the British against the Americans across the river in NJ.[[User:Thefactis|Thefactis]] ([[User talk:Thefactis|talk]]) 18:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


:::::Um, you do realize there were more torries in NJ, right? [[User:Jros83|Jersey John]] ([[User talk:Jros83|talk]]) 22:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Culture > Cuisine: ''New Jersey'<nowiki/>'''s''' third-largest industry is food and agriculture just behind pharmaceuticals and tourism.'' [[User:RagingBoson|RagingBoson]] ([[User talk:RagingBoson|talk]]) 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)


:Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 19:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Alot of the New Yorkers making fun of us is because of the New Jersey-New York Rivalry. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.82.51.254|68.82.51.254]] ([[User talk:68.82.51.254|talk]]) 00:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Demographics ==
I was hoping we could change this:New Jersey is one of the most religiously and ethnically diverse states in the country. It has the second largest Jewish population by percentage after New York[15]; the second largest Muslim population by percent (after Michigan); the third highest Asian population by percent, the third highest Italian-American population by percent of any state according to the 2000 Census; and a large percentage of the population is Black, White American, Hispanic American, Arab American, and Asian American. It has the second highest Indian American population of any state by absolute numbers.[16][17][18][19], to something correct, as Arabs are White, according to the US Census definition, and while Indian Americans are technically White, the US Census defines them as being Asian, and Hispanics may be of any race. Thanks [[User:Iamanadam|Iamanadam]] ([[User talk:Iamanadam|talk]]) 01:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:Do you want to propose something to change it to? The article as is, is just repeating what the references say. --[[User:Michael Greiner|Michael]] [[User talk:Michael Greiner|Greiner]] 02:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Please don't take that tone with me, I was just putting out a factual inacuracy, maybe there should be some different references [[User:Iamanadam|Iamanadam]] ([[User talk:Iamanadam|talk]]) 21:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

== Politics ==

Seems rather POV, the part about "then began the decade-long conspiracy". I don't think it's POV to say that new parties have it tough to get a foothold in NJ, but calling it a conspiracy is jumping to certain conclusions which are not evident. [[Special:Contributions/213.84.174.46|213.84.174.46]] ([[User talk:213.84.174.46|talk]]) 21:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==
The current listed pronunciation, /njuːˈdʒɝzi/, has the "New" pronounced as "Nyoo," which is a regional pronunciation ironically absent in New Jersey. Most New Jerseyans pronounce the "New" as "Noo," which (with my limited linguistics skills) should be written [nu:], right? I have lived in New Jersey all of my life, but can anyone back me up on this? [[User:Beta.s2ph|Beta.s2ph]] ([[User talk:Beta.s2ph|talk]]) 06:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
*I've never heard the "nyoo" pronounced with a "y" that way in all my years in the Garden State. We pronounce [[Bogota, New Jersey]] as "Buh-GO-ta" and [[Buena, New Jersey]] as "BYOO-na". It should come as little surprise that we "mispronounce" the name of our own state. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 06:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

:I think a similar issue was going on over at the [[New York]] article. Someone would change the IPA pronunciation, and then someone would change it back. I'm not completely clear what the standard for accents is - nor what the IPA pronunciation specifically signifies. Does anyone know an editor who is really experienced with IPA? Perhaps they could shed some more light on this. [[User:AlexiusHoratius|AlexiusHoratius]] ([[User talk:AlexiusHoratius|talk]]) 08:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I undid a recent edit because it replaced a correct pronunciation, one that corresponded with IPA notation as reflected on the help page, with one that did not. The issues here are: 1. How is the phrase "New Jersey" pronounced? and 2. How is that pronunciation best represented in IPA notation? The "new" in "New Jersey" may be pronounced "noo" or "nyoo," but "jersey" is always "jer zee," with the accent on the first sylable. Is there a better way to capture that in IPA style?[[User:Thefactis|Thefactis]] ([[User talk:Thefactis|talk]]) 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Editing avg. income ==

The new statistics for average household income linked to in the chart on the side contains a different number than is currently in the chart itself. The 2006 list puts NJ at $66,752, which is 1st in America.
[[Special:Contributions/67.85.195.225|67.85.195.225]] ([[User talk:67.85.195.225|talk]]) 09:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

==19th Century==

This section should include a mention of Walt Whitman, who in the annuls of American literature is perhaps one of the most recognize, he spent years in Camden writing and revising Leaves of Grass, and creating some of his most memorable works. His home is a historic site, and his tomb is in Camden as well. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.248.159.92|69.248.159.92]] ([[User talk:69.248.159.92|talk]]) 13:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Wikipedian Meetup across the Hudson ==

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In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to [[:meta:Wikimedia New York City]] activities, and have salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the [[Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/January 13, 2008#Report on the Meet-up|last meeting's minutes]]).

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at [[Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list]]..--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] ([[User talk:Pharos|talk]]) 23:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Products ==

There isn't any mention about NJ's products & I'm doing a report about it so i really need it...

[[User:Eyrie88|Eyrie88]] ([[User talk:Eyrie88|talk]]) 16:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:We are not here to do your homework for you. Go do the research, and add your findings to the article, just like everyone else has done with what is currently in the article. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 16:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

== Climate ==

Much of New Jersey has NOT humid subtropical climate, it has humid continental. Except in south that has humid subtropical.
Please change. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.127.126.229|69.127.126.229]] ([[User talk:69.127.126.229|talk]]) 00:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== New Jersey Economy addition ==

It states in this article that New Jersey has a GDP of $434 billion, which, according to the *[[List of countries by GDP (nominal)]], ([[List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita|per capita]]), New Jersey would have about the 17th or 18th largest economy in the world. Does anyone think that this information should be included in this article?

[[User:Shanem201|Shanem201]] ([[User talk:Shanem201|talk]]) 23:52, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Demonyms ==

I've lived my entire life in New Jersey and never once have I heard the terms "New Jerseyite" or "Jerseyite." I'm sure someone, somewhere uses those terms, and that there's some source that corroborates their usage, but glancing at this article today is the first I've seen or heard them. Does anyone know more about their usage? [[User:Mjj237|Mjj237]] ([[User talk:Mjj237|talk]]) 11:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

:I also grew up in NJ and have never heard the -ite ending used. It's always "(New) Jerseyan". The only time I ever see the -ite ending is from the people who have never lived in NJ. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.218.243.122|98.218.243.122]] ([[User talk:98.218.243.122|talk]]) 03:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Movies ==

As a west-coaster, I am surprised not to find Garden State (2004) on the list on the main State page for NJ. This movie is probably one of the more modern positive representations of this state and should be put on the list with the others.
[[User:GigaTronicus|GigaTronicus]] ([[User talk:GigaTronicus|talk]]) 13:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== Transportation==

While there is a thorough description of the the NY/NJ Tunnel/Bridge connection, I expected a similar paragraph on the connections to Philadelphia to follow. The Bridge connections include the Walt Whitman Bridge, Benjamin Franklin Bridge, and Betsy Ross Bridge, and perhaps a mention of the forthcoming tram line across the Delaware River would be appropriate. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.248.159.92|69.248.159.92]] ([[User talk:69.248.159.92|talk]]) 13:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== new jarsey ==


Who founded it? why was it discovered? What hard ships did it carry? Also how was it governed? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/206.78.2.10|206.78.2.10]] ([[User talk:206.78.2.10|talk]]) 15:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::... What...? [[User:Jros83|Jersey John]] ([[User talk:Jros83|talk]]) 22:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== Politics ==

I'm surprised that nothing was included about Sharpe James' reign of terror in Newark and the political throwdown with Cory Booker. This is an important part of black politics and the election, a pivotal moment in New Jersey history. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/38.109.64.226|38.109.64.226]] ([[User talk:38.109.64.226|talk]]) 15:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::Please. Just because it's a big deal to your certain demographic does not mean it's a big deal to everyone else in the state. I didn't hear anything about it down here in Gloucester county, where we get inundated by major news sources in the tri-state area AND NY, so it's not really a "pivotal moment" in NJ history. It ight be pivotal to your demographic. But that's it. It's not really all that special. Sorry. [[User:Jros83|Jersey John]] ([[User talk:Jros83|talk]]) 22:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Come to New Jersey and you get food, land, and freedom.

== come to new jersey ==

Come to New Jersey and you get food, land, and freedom.

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5th smallest state

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Should be 4th smallest state 2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4 (talk) 12:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2A0D:6FC7:41F:9CDA:4371:768:E182:7CA4 Source?? -Lemonaka 03:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You'll need to give a source for this info. There are those who say that it's 4th-smallest by land area, but it's 5th-smallest by total area, which is what is generally used. Lindsey40186 (talk) 04:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request

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In the History section, please remove the sentence “ Around 180 million years ago, during the Jurassic Period, New Jersey bordered North Africa.” This is not mentioned in the source provided. Also please add the subheading of “Prehistoric era”. 2600:100C:A216:3864:78B2:C9B5:2A6A:71BA (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:31, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12th or 11th most populous?

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The article currently claims that NJ is the 12th most populous state, although it recently said 11th. This is strange, given this claim links to the article showing states by population, which puts NJ at 11th. What's with the discrepancy? FiveInParticular (talk) 22:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation missing in first paragraph

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There should be a citation for the fact stated in the first paragraph of the article that New Jersey is the only state for which every county is deemed urban by the US Census Bureau. Is it certain that this fact is true? 73.153.196.210 (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The citation for this is in the second paragraph of New_Jersey#Population. Per MOS:LEADCITE, Because the lead usually repeats information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material. Kire1975 (talk) 07:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The archived citation that is linked for the fact that "New Jersey is the only state for which every count is deemed urban" is a page from 1999 that shows all the metropolitan areas and components within the US. I have two concerns:
1. Is it true that if a county belongs to a metropolitan area that it is deemed urban? I believe that the Census Bureau has a separate designation for whether an area is deemed "urban," and these areas do not necessarily follow county lines. For example, here are the areas of Delaware that are designated as either an urban cluster or an urbanized area:
https://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dph/hp/files/ruralurban.pdf
Similarly, here is an interactive map that shows the urban areas in New Jersey:
https://njogis-newjersey.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/NJDOT::urbanized-areas/explore
Both of these maps show some amount of urban area in every county of both states.
2. If we do indeed just want to use the fact that all of New Jersey's counties belong to some Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), then I notice in the archived citation from 1999 that all five counties in Rhode Island belong to the Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA Metropolitan Statistical Area. New Jersey is not the only state for which each county belongs to an MSA. 2600:6C50:427F:E093:B5C9:DD74:43BC:B478 (talk) 18:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grammatical error

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Culture > Cuisine: New Jersey's third-largest industry is food and agriculture just behind pharmaceuticals and tourism. RagingBoson (talk) 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. oknazevad (talk) 19:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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