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== Duplication with [[solar power]] == |
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Currently, [[solar power]] as a higher quality article is both redundant and losing viewership, as "solar energy" is a more popular term than "solar power". This article should talk about energy from the Sun in general, not just about it as electricity. [[User:CactiStaccingCrane|CactiStaccingCrane]] ([[User talk:CactiStaccingCrane|talk]]) 17:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC) |
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== Stirling Solar == |
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:Good idea - I suggest you go ahead. Also maybe the photovoltaics section should be removed. [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 17:39, 10 November 2022 (UTC) |
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I came to this page and did a word search for "Stirling" and nothing came up. So I added a section on stirling solar after the section on dishes where I thought it most appropriate. Stirling solar is the emerging technology that will take over and dominate the solar power industry. Get up with the times people. If any experts on stirling energy want to add to it, please do. --[[User:Aidan_oz]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 04:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:@[[User:CactiStaccingCrane|CactiStaccingCrane]] December views show this continues. I tried removing photovoltaics from here - don’t know if that will make a difference [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 09:27, 6 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:Moved a para from lead to [[Solar_power#Cost_per_watt]] [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 09:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:Maybe floating solar and solar aircraft should be moved elsewhere? If so where? [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 09:40, 6 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Sunlight للطاقة المتجددة == |
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:It's already covered in the Concentrating solar power section Aidan. [[User:Mrshaba|Mrshaba]] ([[User talk:Mrshaba|talk]]) 05:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:: Mrshaba ; I wrote that section somebody has moved it under Concentrating solar power.see history. By the way folks there is an error in that section where its stated "In all these systems a working fluid is heated by the concentrated sunlight, and is then used for power generation or energy storage.[87]" This information is WRONG ! If you look at the very next reference a greenpeace article, it states that concentrating solar power can be converted to electricity in two ways, one by heating a fluid such as oil which is then used to heat steam for a turbine and the other option is a Stirling engine. So under the section concentrating solar power there should be subsections describing which technology is used to couple with dish. There are options !([[Special:Contributions/124.187.32.53|124.187.32.53]] ([[User talk:124.187.32.53|talk]]) 14:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC)) ([[User:Aidan oz|Aidan oz]] ([[User talk:Aidan oz|talk]]) 14:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)) |
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:::[[Stirling engines]] use a working fluid. [[User:Mrshaba|Mrshaba]] ([[User talk:Mrshaba|talk]]) 17:39, 25 October 2008 (UTC) |
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More information for the solar energy systems in Egypt. |
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== Note == |
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The main difference between poly crystalline panels and mono crystalline panels? |
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Golden Thread notes there were large scale solar troughs in Egypt in 1900.--[[Special:Contributions/82.12.222.230|82.12.222.230]] ([[User talk:82.12.222.230|talk]]) 22:13, 24 October 2008 (UTC) |
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Ans: the main difference is the panel efficiency, mono crystalline efficiency have reached 23%. |
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Sunlight solar energy is Sol agent for Quantum Solar and the importer for Ja solar in Egypt for more than 5 years |
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:Yep... At one point this page included some info about Shuman, Tellier, Mouchot etc. but most of these snippets have been parred out. The information about the Shuman project in Egypt should probably be added to the [[Parabolic trough]] page. [[Special:Contributions/24.85.246.143|24.85.246.143]] ([[User talk:24.85.246.143|talk]]) 22:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC) |
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صن لايت للطاقة المتجددة الوكيل الحصرة لشركة Quantum Solar و مستورد معتمد لشركة JA solar فى مصر لاكثر من 5 سنوات. [[Special:Contributions/2C0F:FC89:108:BB5F:4C48:29D5:7416:EEB7|2C0F:FC89:108:BB5F:4C48:29D5:7416:EEB7]] ([[User talk:2C0F:FC89:108:BB5F:4C48:29D5:7416:EEB7|talk]]) 14:41, 3 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[Talk:Energy in Egypt]] or [[Talk:Solar panel]] might be a better place for you to suggest changes but please first read [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]] [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 19:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== News article: New nano coating boosts solar efficiency == |
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== Efficiency == |
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* [http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/11/06/solar.coating/index.html?iref=intlOnlyonCNN New nano coating boosts solar efficiency] [[User:Ling.Nut|Ling.Nut]] <sup>([[User talk:Ling.Nut|talk]]—[[User:Ling.Nut/3IAR|WP:3IAR]])</sup> 11:06, 12 November 2008 (UTC) |
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Efficiency of a machine is defined as the percentage of retio of our put (i.e work done by the machine) to the input work (i.e work done on the machine) |
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solar power is a mean of clea and sustainable power <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.34.145.217|67.34.145.217]] ([[User talk:67.34.145.217|talk]]) 23:19, 20 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Efficiency = output work /input work × 100% |
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This place is the best right now im doing a report on this thanks |
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== Blog reference == |
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The section on overhead wires and solar panels over carpool lanes needs to be rewritten and find a non-blog reference: |
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<blockquote>There is a new concept that may be developed by General Motors, Ford and Chrysler in a Manhattan Project approach in return for their Bail Out Money. In this approach Overhead Solar Panels and wires are installed above Diamond Lanes on the nation's freeways. Concurrently, new electric cars are produced that do not require batteries, but are recharged as they run down the Electrified Freeway. This system could also control the navigation of all electric vehicles allowing the driver and passengers to be connected to the Internet getting work done or being entertained.</blockquote> |
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Also lose the words "Manhattan Project" and "Bail Out Money", and don't capitalize "Overhead Solar Panels" or "Diamond Lanes" and "Electrified Freeway". Also, this is not a "new concept", having been proposed many years before. And you don't do something "in return for bail out money" (such as paying off the Senators voting for it). You keep the company in business in return for bail out money. And it would not involve electric cars that don't have batteries, it would just mean the batteries would not be used during that portion of the trip. [[Special:Contributions/199.125.109.37|199.125.109.37]] ([[User talk:199.125.109.37|talk]]) 20:19, 7 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Error? == |
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' [[Special:Contributions/2400:F0C0:1:B648:7856:7458:3A1F:F6C8|2400:F0C0:1:B648:7856:7458:3A1F:F6C8]] ([[User talk:2400:F0C0:1:B648:7856:7458:3A1F:F6C8|talk]]) 15:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Is it just me, or are the "primary energy use" and "electricity use" numbers completely wrong. I know for a fact that we consume a lot more than 45 TWh in a year. The real number is about 20,000 TWh, and that's of actual electricity off the grid. If you calculate it based on heat content of the fuel that goes into producing that electricity, it's more than twice that.[[Special:Contributions/165.123.122.14|165.123.122.14]] ([[User talk:165.123.122.14|talk]]) 02:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC) |
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:The numbers are sourced so you can check them out for yourself. Here are some handy [http://www.mitenergyclub.org/assets/2008/11/15/Units_ConvFactors.MIT_EnergyClub_Factsheet.v8.pdf Conversion Factors] that help. 462.798 Quads x 293 TWh/Quad = 135,600 TWh. Hmmm... That should be total primary energy use so it appears someone made a conversion error. Good catch. [[User:Mrshaba|Mrshaba]] ([[User talk:Mrshaba|talk]]) 04:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Remove Molten Salt Section? == |
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lkmnohrt;worihn'lirshy'lirjho'sihje;rohgtonb'lWR3HPIqgre' <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.181.98.10|58.181.98.10]] ([[User talk:58.181.98.10|talk]]) 11:47, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I'm not sure the section on molten salt belongs here, and if it does it should be much shorter and concise. Currently it's a very out-of-place, long-winded description of the tech plus a detailed list of a few experimental concentrated solar power projects that use it. I think this information would be better suited on [[Concentrated_solar_power]] and [[Thermal_energy_storage]]. Also note that while these two technologies were promising several decades ago they are obsolete now for commercial power production thanks to the massive cost decreases of photovoltaic and electric batteries, making the prominence of molten salt on this article seem even less appropriate on a general article about solar energy. [[User:Lifterus|Lifterus]] ([[User talk:Lifterus|talk]]) 23:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== The sun's ydrogen Supply is finite! == |
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This is true. But only if the concept of finite / infinite is discarded. |
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This concept is flexible. It is quite normal, for example in botanical studies to say, the "number of petals in this flower is infinite", if the number crosses 25 or 30. |
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:Thanks for working on the important [[solar panel]] article as well as this one. As you are looking at both articles might you be able to sort out some of the duplication? [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 13:04, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Similarly, the number of celestial bodies is normally considered infinite, though it can definitely be counted given enough time and resources. In the latter sense, hydrogen supply in the sun is infinite. Even technically we do not know enough to say that it is non-renewable. |
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In any case, if it merits space under this subject it definitely needs to be a. relocated and b. argued and referenced. |
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Duplication with solar power
[edit]Currently, solar power as a higher quality article is both redundant and losing viewership, as "solar energy" is a more popular term than "solar power". This article should talk about energy from the Sun in general, not just about it as electricity. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Good idea - I suggest you go ahead. Also maybe the photovoltaics section should be removed. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:39, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- @CactiStaccingCrane December views show this continues. I tried removing photovoltaics from here - don’t know if that will make a difference Chidgk1 (talk) 09:27, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Moved a para from lead to Solar_power#Cost_per_watt Chidgk1 (talk) 09:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe floating solar and solar aircraft should be moved elsewhere? If so where? Chidgk1 (talk) 09:40, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]More information for the solar energy systems in Egypt.
The main difference between poly crystalline panels and mono crystalline panels? Ans: the main difference is the panel efficiency, mono crystalline efficiency have reached 23%.
Sunlight solar energy is Sol agent for Quantum Solar and the importer for Ja solar in Egypt for more than 5 years صن لايت للطاقة المتجددة الوكيل الحصرة لشركة Quantum Solar و مستورد معتمد لشركة JA solar فى مصر لاكثر من 5 سنوات. 2C0F:FC89:108:BB5F:4C48:29D5:7416:EEB7 (talk) 14:41, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
- Talk:Energy in Egypt or Talk:Solar panel might be a better place for you to suggest changes but please first read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest Chidgk1 (talk) 19:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Efficiency
[edit]Efficiency of a machine is defined as the percentage of retio of our put (i.e work done by the machine) to the input work (i.e work done on the machine) Efficiency = output work /input work × 100%
' 2400:F0C0:1:B648:7856:7458:3A1F:F6C8 (talk) 15:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Remove Molten Salt Section?
[edit]I'm not sure the section on molten salt belongs here, and if it does it should be much shorter and concise. Currently it's a very out-of-place, long-winded description of the tech plus a detailed list of a few experimental concentrated solar power projects that use it. I think this information would be better suited on Concentrated_solar_power and Thermal_energy_storage. Also note that while these two technologies were promising several decades ago they are obsolete now for commercial power production thanks to the massive cost decreases of photovoltaic and electric batteries, making the prominence of molten salt on this article seem even less appropriate on a general article about solar energy. Lifterus (talk) 23:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Thanks for working on the important solar panel article as well as this one. As you are looking at both articles might you be able to sort out some of the duplication? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:04, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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