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= December 18 =
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== White flashes in the 90s music videos ==
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Apparently in the 1990s and early 2000s there was an international trend of using repeated white flashes for artistic effect in music videos, particularly when shooting indoors, e.g. in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAwX1slv8g&t=16 Tarkan - Şımarık], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQvzRriiWbs&t=21 Philipp Kirkorov - Ogon i voda], etc. (now seemingly less used). Is this effect mentioned/discussed somewhere? [[User:Brandmeister|Brandmeister]]<sup>[[User talk:Brandmeister|talk]]</sup> 19:26, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Frog and Toad All Year audiobook ==
= January 25 =


British actor [[Peter Sallis]] narrated an audio cassette tape titled [[Frog and Toad All Year]] which I believe was released in 1976 although being trying to find out if the audio cassette tape is available to buy anywhere. [[User:Matthew John Drummond|Matthew John Drummond]] ([[User talk:Matthew John Drummond|talk]]) 21:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
== Strange behaviour by gymnastics coach ==


:The audio CD version (sold together with the book) is listed on Amazon (see [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Frog-Toad-Year-Around-Book/dp/0060786981/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.P0WDjEJVUjiuvcIYGxo8grE4H9g1qdZ8VnMcfh1vS9RZy2qCuBL6WGT2r5JBfTuHhIuorj6aMjIE3ZKwvhqyKcNpdwnazk8nCfNnNsFtfrs.w_hmrIrvIEzXlton18Pf5rTzwFJI3emHCG7OGwTJis4&dib_tag=se&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1734564732&refinements=p_27%3APeter+Sallis&s=books&sr=1-3 here]). Whether this is the Sallis recording or a different narrator is not mentioned. Copies ''might'' crop up on e.g. Ebay or similar 2nd-hand vendors, but cassette tape eventually deteriorates so the playability of one made almost 50 years ago would be iffy. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 23:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
My wife always watches the gymnastics whenever it's on TV, and I've noticed something that intrigues me. When a female competitor is performing on the asymmetric (uneven) bars, shortly into the event, her coach comes on to the floor and approaches to within a few feet of where she's spinning around the bars and reaches out his hands to her, as if he's preparing to catch her. Then he goes around to the other side of the apparatus and does the same thing. Then he moves away. What on earth is the purpose of this? He's done all he can to prepare her for her routine; and now the best thing, surely, is just to let her get on with it. She must be able to see him, and it must be a great distraction during such a high-risk routine when she needs all her concentration. Nothing similar happens in any of the other disciplines. Presumably there's a logical explanation for this, but can anyone please enlighten me? [[User:Dyevushka|Pavel]] ([[User talk:Dyevushka|talk]]) 19:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Probably to catch her if she falls. I've seen them do that at other apparatuses too. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 20:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


= December 19 =
:The coaches of male gymnasts do the same thing when their competitor is on the High Bar. They even adjust the mats under the bar while the routine is going on. [[User:AnyPerson|AnyPerson]] ([[User talk:AnyPerson|talk]]) 23:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


== Little Bear 1996 Audiobooks ==
::And I doubt it's a distraction. They're probably so focused on their routine, the bars, and what their body is doing that you'd have to fire a gun to distract them. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 03:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


In 1996 British actor [[Peter Sallis]] narrated two audiobooks those being [[Little Bear (book)|Little Bear]] and Little Bear's Visit and I've been trying to find if any websites that sell it so I can buy it. [[User:Matthew John Drummond|Matthew John Drummond]] ([[User talk:Matthew John Drummond|talk]]) 14:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Plus, if the coach always does that, it's not a distraction; they expect it. --Anonymous, 04:47 UTC, January 26, 2009.


:If any websites sell 'something', they need customers to be able to find them. The 'something' would therefore almost certainly show up in any appropriately-worded web search. If you have web-searched for 'something' and not found it, it's a strong indication that the 'something' is not currently being advertised and/or sold (at least online), either new or (currently) via Ebay and other resale sites. On the latter, of course, ''any'' 2nd-hand item ''might'' show up at any time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 20:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
= January 26 =
== RoseGarden Playback Feature ==


= December 20 =
* I have moved this question and my answer to the Computing desk, where it will be more likely to get a good answer. Please follow <b>[[Wikipedia:Reference_desk/C#RoseGarden_Playback_Feature|this link]]</b>. --[[User:NorwegianBlue|NorwegianBlue]]<sup>[[User_talk:NorwegianBlue|&nbsp;<u>talk</u>]]</sup> 17:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


== Biggest game between two teams from Indiana ever? ==
== Songs ==


Any candidates other than this Indiana+ND game? Thanks, [[User:Abeg92|Ab]]<span style="color:#00FF00;">e</span>[[User talk:Abeg92|g92]]<small>[[Special:Contributions/Abeg92|contribs]]</small> 04:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
There is a song with possibly the lyrics themselves " ... I'm writing this song ... " or just that the song is about "writing this song" by someone who sounds like kt tunstall. Who is the artist and the name of this song?
:Define "biggest". ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 04:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:: <small>"Most big" <small>←[[Special:Contributions/136.56.165.118|136.56.165.118]] ([[User talk:136.56.165.118|talk]]) 15:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)</small></small>
:::: {{Small|Most supercalifragilisticexpialidociously ginormous, of course. What do they teach in school, these days??? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 21:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)}}
:::Most important potential outcome? Largest spectator attendance? Largest combined score? Most hyped in the media? ''We'' cannot know what ''you'' (or the OP, if different) mean by "biggest" (or "most big") unless you define it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 20:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


== The Moonstone characters that die 1972 ==
Another song is a rock song with the line usually repeating at the the end of the chorus and or verse: "I want to be with you" or "I only want to be with you". The singer is vocal male sounding. Who is the artist and the name of this song?[[Special:Contributions/96.53.149.117|96.53.149.117]] ([[User talk:96.53.149.117|talk]]) 02:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


[[The Moonstone]] book appears to have three characters from the book that die and it appears that in the 1972 tv series adaptation less of the characters die so how many of the characters from The Moonstone 1972 tv series adaptation die. Also tell me if I was right saying that three of the characters from [[The Moonstone]] book die and if I was right tell me each character from the book that dies as well. [[User:Matthew John Drummond|Matthew John Drummond]] ([[User talk:Matthew John Drummond|talk]]) 19:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:I don't know about the first one, but the second sounds like [[Only Wanna Be With You]] by [[Hootie and the Blowfish]], possibly. [[User:Hermione1980|Hermione]]'''[[User talk:Hermione1980|1980]]''' 02:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::I'm giving away my age here, and I don't know who K. T. Tunstall is, but the first thing your first description brought to mind is Elton John's [[Your Song]], and the first thing your second description brought to mind is [[I Only Want to Be with You]], first recorded by Dusty Springfield but covered by a number of artists, including males. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 02:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


:::Yea the rock song i mention, youred right. Well K. T. Tunstall is the lady who wrote the theme to devil wears prada. It's a kind of like a ballad, like in the style of norah jones or a piano song.[[Special:Contributions/96.53.149.117|96.53.149.117]] ([[User talk:96.53.149.117|talk]]) 03:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:A question better asked on the Italian Wikipedia, since this Italian-language adaptation was made and broadcast in Italy. It's ''possible'' that some responder on this en.Wikipedia Ref desk might be able to find out, but seems to me unlikely. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 20:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::However, [[The Moonstone (1972 TV series)]] was made by the [[BBC]] in English and subsequently shown in the USA by [[PBS]] (but I don't know the answer). [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 13:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Ah, right. I didn't spot this one, because in [[The Moonstone#Adaptations|The Moonstone#Adaptations]] (where I looked), it's appended to the entry for the 1959 version and thus less noticeable, and the next entry is for the Italian production, which I assumed was the one the OP meant – apologies. Obviously, one would have to both re-read the book (which would take days – it's 450+ pages, nearly 193,000 words) ''and'' watch the DVD to work out the answers to the questions, and I do not possess the latter. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 17:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I have now separated the two BBC versions in our article. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 21:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 21 =
I'm fairly sure the first one is [[These Words]] by [[Natasha Bedingfield]]. A hateful song. [[User:Malcolm XIV|Malcolm XIV]] ([[User talk:Malcolm XIV|talk]]) 11:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


== [[PEGI]] "Discrimination" ==
I had an inkling the second could be ''[[To Be with You]]'' by [[Mr Big]] which was overplayed on the radio in the early nineties, and my god, look at their truly shocking hair on that single cover. [[User:Nanonic|Nanonic]] ([[User talk:Nanonic|talk]]) 13:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
: Well, Obviously I'm as in the dark as everyone else, but I keep thinking that the first one is something by [[Katie Melua]], but I can't seem to think of which song. She seems to [[break the fourth wall]] with her songs a lot. As for the second, could be [[Volbeat]] version of [[Only Wanna Be With You]] quite a sureal rock-a-billy version. --<small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;background:#ffffff">[[user:Worm That Turned|<font style="color:#ffffff;background:#008000;">&nbsp;WORM</font>]][[User_talk:Worm That Turned|<font style="color:#008000;">MЯOW&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 08:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


Have PEGI ever mentioned or otherwise announced why they discontinued their "Discrimination" content descriptor despite?
==Another Song==


https://pegi.info/en/search-pegi?q=&age%5B%5D=&descriptor%5B%5D=Discrimination
It came out about five years ago. It featured a man rapping with a white soprano girl doing the chorus. The video started with a family talking about their son going to war (and maybe his kid missing him)? The song was about missing people when they go away and wanting them to come back and the video featured the soprano sitting in an empty house, singing to noone. It was a pretty big hit for a time. I know that's not a lot to go on, but I'd appreciate any help. Thanks [[Special:Contributions/24.178.112.221|24.178.112.221]] ([[User talk:24.178.112.221|talk]]) 03:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


:This song wasn't five years ago, but maybe [[Where'd You Go]] by [[Fort Minor]]? --[[User:Crackthewhip775|Crackthewhip775]] ([[User talk:Crackthewhip775|talk]]) 05:58, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Looking at their database it was only used on five games from 2004 to 2006 which is miniscule [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|talk]]) 02:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:https://rating-system.fandom.com/wiki/Discrimination_descriptor [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 06:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


== Quantum of Solace ==
= December 30 =


== What's the difference between a free reed and a beating reed? ==
Is the James Bond theme ever heard in this film? [[Special:Contributions/200.112.17.237|200.112.17.237]] ([[User talk:200.112.17.237|talk]]) 13:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


I read that although there were so called beating reed instruments in Europe since at least the 14th c. (e.g. the regal) the first free reed instruments only appeared in Europe at the end of the 18th c. (e.g. the harmonium, the accordion, etc.) but I've just realized that I don't even know the difference. Could someone explain? [[Special:Contributions/178.51.7.23|178.51.7.23]] ([[User talk:178.51.7.23|talk]]) 12:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
:According to [[James Bond Theme]] it appears twice.--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 17:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


:This website https://www.patmissin.com/history/whatis.html seems to have an expanded explaination on free vs beating reeda. As I know nothing about the subject I can not judge it. --[[User:Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM|Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM]] ([[User talk:Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM|talk]]) 19:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
== Why is [[Depeche Mode]] so popular in [[Eastern Europe]]? (question moved from Humanities desk) ==


:Possibly the article [[Reed aerophone]] and the [[Template:Reed aerophones]] with all the links contained in it will help...? --[[User:CiaPan|CiaPan]] ([[User talk:CiaPan|talk]]) 19:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Although Depeche Mode is a British band, they seem to be considerably more popular in Eastern Europe (i.e. the former Soviet bloc countries) than they are in the UK itself. This isn't noted in the Depeche Mode article, but I'm sure I read it somewhere and through personal experience I have also found it to be true. Actually, relatively few people in the UK seem to be interested in Depeche Mode these days, but it's a different story in Eastern Europe... I gather there's a bar/nightclub in Estonia that plays ''nothing but'' Depeche Mode. So does anyone know the reason(s) for this phenomenon? I actually like the band; they're better than a lot of other UK bands from the same era, and since. More interesting than [[Joy Division]] for example who are extremely popular today in the UK amongst people who like that kind of music (although [[New Order]] are probably more interesting than Joy Division and have a sound which is probably closer to Depeche Mode, and of course New Order is just Joy Division minus [[Ian Curtis]], but there's a fairly radical change of sound after the first New Order record which is quite like [[Closer (album)|Closer]] by Joy Division (at least stylistically) if I remember rightly).
:Not all authors use the same definitions, but in this contrast I suppose "beating reed" corresponds mainly to the [[Hornbostel–Sachs#Reed aerophones (422)|Hornbostel–Sachs categories]] 422.1 and 422.2 (the [[Single reed|single]] and [[double reed]] instruments, such as the [[clarinet]] and the [[oboe]]), in which the vibrating single reed beats one edge of the mouthpiece and the vibrating double reeds beat against each other. The "free reeds" are then presumably a combination of category 412.13 (the [[free-reed instrument]]s, mainly the [[accordion]]s and [[harmonica]]s) and category 422.3, a very small group of Chinese instruments, in which the vibrating reed vibrates freely, not striking anything else. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 14:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::Are you certain? Aren't the beating reeds Hornbostel-Sachs 412.12 (so called "percussion" reeds defined as "a single lamella strikes against a frame"). In any case where on earth are the reed pipes of church organs and reeds of the regal (a kind of medieval organ with only beating reeds and no pipes)? Couldn't find them either in the file mentioned above or in [[List of aerophones by Hornbostel-Sachs number]]. [[Special:Contributions/178.51.7.23|178.51.7.23]] ([[User talk:178.51.7.23|talk]]) 15:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::As I wrote, different sources have different definitions. The ''Encyclopædia Brittanica'' identifies "single reed" with "beating reed".<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=2A0kAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA974&dq=%22single+or+beating+reed%22&hl=en]</sup> Other authors distinguish between "single beating reed" and "double beating reed".<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=ezMuAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA103&dq=%22double+beating+reed%22&hl=en][https://books.google.com/books?id=YMkwAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA76-IA3&dq=%22double-beating+reed%22&hl=en]</sup> I can't be certain without seeing the context in which these terms are used, but as far as I'm aware no common current instruments fit Hornbostel-Sachs 412.12. The confusing conceptual duplication of sections 412 and 422 has encountered some criticism, as in the book ''Reed Instruments: The Montagu Collection: an Annotated Catalogue'': "{{tq|I have taken the liberty of of dividing those instruments which should come together under 412 into their types, taking the concussion reeds (412.11) with the double-reed instruments (422.1), the percussion reeds (412.12) with the single-reed instruments (422.2), the free reeds (412.13) with the free-reed instruments (422.3), and placing the ribbon reeds (412.14) at the end, followed by the category, unrecognised by Hornbostel & Sachs but established by Henry Balfour, of retreating reeds, giving these the new number of 412.15."}}<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=RDxLAAAAYAAJ&dq=%22the+percussion+reeds+(412.12)%22&hl=en]</sup> Reed organs (and reed pipes of multi-register organs) tend to be free-reed instruments; see the mentions of organs in [[Free reed aerophone]]. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 00:34, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Actually [[List of aerophones by Hornbostel-Sachs number]] lists under 412.122 "earlier organs", so not empty. Most of the reed pipes (the earlier ones) in normal organs (leaving aside reed organs) are not free reeds. See [[Reed pipe]]. Some of them are (cf. their paragraph in that article) but they are a new thing. If we are to believe [[Pump organ]] the free reed was introduced in Europe only at the end of the 18th century, yet there have been reed pipes in organs and there have been regals in Europe since as early as the 14th century. That there are terminology and classification issues in organology I can well believe. There are such problems in biology and linguistics so why wouldn't there be in organology. Jeremy Montagu's critique of the usual Hornbostel-Sachs may well be valid. Maybe it does make sense to put percussion reeds with single-reed instruments and get rid of that category. I couldn't say say, since 24 hours ago I had no idea even what a beating reed was. [[Special:Contributions/178.51.7.23|178.51.7.23]] ([[User talk:178.51.7.23|talk]]) 06:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


= December 31 =
On an unrelated note, looking at the article, I see that [[Linkin Park]] was influenced by Depeche Mode. I'd never thought about it before but actually that makes a lot of sense when you think about it... the angsty electronic-backed melodies with expressive singing are definitely there in both bands.--[[User:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good]] ([[User talk:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|talk]]) 11:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:You'd probably be better off asking this question at a Depeche Mode-related talkpage. Try www.depechemodeforum.com, for example. [[User:Malcolm XIV|Malcolm XIV]] ([[User talk:Malcolm XIV|talk]]) 11:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::Actually I meant to put this to the Entertainment reference desk, can one of the mods move it there? Thanks very much.--[[User:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good]] ([[User talk:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|talk]]) 11:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You don't have to be an admin to move a question, anyone can do it (as I just proved). --[[User:Richardrj|Richardrj]] [[User talk:Richardrj|<sup>talk </sup>]][[Special:Emailuser/Richardrj|<sup>email</sup>]] 13:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a good question, and it applies to a lot of British groups who find themselves more popular in Europe. In fact, it quite often happens that artists from any country are more popular in another part of the world than they are at home. To think of a couple more examples off the top of my head, [[Bush (band)]] are British, yet much more popular in America. American [[free jazz]] artists such as [[Albert Ayler]] have always been more popular in continental Europe than either the UK or USA. In general it's a matter of the type of music being more in tune with prevailing musical traditions elsewhere. In the case of Depeche Mode, their style of music is electropop, which has never really gained a huge following in Britain. However, there is a long and honourable tradition of European electronic/synth pop bands, most notably [[Kraftwerk]]. To take another example, [[Van der Graaf Generator]] are British, but their brand of operatic progressive rock finds most favour in countries like Italy which have strong operatic traditions. --[[User:Richardrj|Richardrj]] [[User talk:Richardrj|<sup>talk </sup>]][[Special:Emailuser/Richardrj|<sup>email</sup>]] 13:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::But wasn't Van Der Graaf Generator only popular there because they toured with the Italian prog band [[Premiata Forneria Marconi]] in the 70s?--[[User:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good]] ([[User talk:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|talk]]) 17:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Also, I don't find the analogies with other artists to be satisfactory in truly explaining ''why'' Depeche Mode is phenomenally popular in Eastern Europe. Thanks for the help, but I don't think it truly answers my question.--[[User:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good]] ([[User talk:&#39;Cause It&#39;s No Good|talk]]) 17:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I know a thing or two about Van Der Graaf Generator, and AFAIK they never toured with PFM (although I stand to be corrected). They were phenomenally popular in Italy in the 70s off their own bat, due to constant touring and, as I have said, their musical style being reminiscent of the Italian operatic tradition. As for ver Mode, I found this via a google search (it seems to be from an earlier version of the wiki article): "While Depeche Mode remains quite popular in the US, Western Europe and Australia, its most loyal fan base and widest appeal seems to lie in Central Europe and Eastern Europe, fed by the timely confluence of several key events in this part of the world in the early 90's: the then world-wide popularity of Depeche Mode and synthesized dance music in general (which has since waned in the US), the collapse of communism, and the rise of the Internet with the instant access this brought to a region thirsting for western music and ideals." --[[User:Richardrj|Richardrj]] [[User talk:Richardrj|<sup>talk </sup>]][[Special:Emailuser/Richardrj|<sup>email</sup>]] 08:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:This also won't answer your question, but: the Depeche Mode bar in Tallinn not only plays nothing but Depeche Mode, it also shows nothing but Depeche Mode videos (muted) on its several televisions, and has a menu of drinks named after Depeche Mode songs. That being said, the bar is owned by the founder and president of the Estonian Depeche Mode fan club, and there are two photo albums on display jam packed with pictures of this guy posing with various members of the band. Apparently he's been obsessed with them since they were making gay-themed dance pop back in the dark ages. So the bar isn't really evidence of a general Estonian obsession with Depeche Mode, so much as of the fact that some people's fandom knows no bounds. Still, you're right (about Depeche Mode being big in Eastern Europe, not about Joy Division being uninteresting), and it'd be nice to know what the story is. There are tons of bands that gain a huge following in seemingly random places, and there's usually a reason for it, though it's typically mundane stuff like "heavy radio play," "frequent touring," "good PR," or "a really big concert." --[[User:Fullobeans|Fullobeans]] ([[User talk:Fullobeans|talk]]) 08:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


== Anyone's tried "triple" reeds? ==
== Philadelphia Experiment Movies ==


I'm about to experiment with my oboe: I'm planning to insert a little piece of reed between the two reeds of the (European) mouthpiece of my oboe, and then blow and see what happens. (A great December 31st activity!) But before I ruin a good oboe (European) mouthpiece I'd like to know if anyone has tried that already and what happened? [[Special:Contributions/178.51.7.23|178.51.7.23]] ([[User talk:178.51.7.23|talk]]) 15:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Does anybody know how many Philadelphia Experiment movies were made ?
[[User:Scotius|Scotius]] ([[User talk:Scotius|talk]]) 14:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:The was the [[The Philadelphia Experiment (film)|The Philadelphia Experiment]], which, as far as I know, is the only film to date about it. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 17:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::There was a sequel, BTW, which is mentioned in our article. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 17:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Also see ''The Triangle'' (2005), ''Unholy'' (2007) and ''100 Million BC'' (2008). [[User:Pepso2|Pepso2]] ([[User talk:Pepso2|talk]]) 20:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


:No idea, but if you're going to fiddle with making/adding a handmade reed, make sure on your inhale you put your tongue forward incase anything comes loose causing you to choke. You could of course, buy a triple reed.
== Music from Cold Mountain ==
:This safety announcement is not endorsed by Wikipedia. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 16:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
::Excellent point. Thanks a lot. Gotta make sure I don't swallow that little piece of reed and choke on my experiment. Surely, that would be a bad joke on a December 31st! Are there triple reeds for oboes? Really? [[Special:Contributions/178.51.7.23|178.51.7.23]] ([[User talk:178.51.7.23|talk]]) 16:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I played oboe in uni but that was many, MANY years ago. No such thing then but I googled triple reed and yes, you can buy them. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 16:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)


= January 1 =
Where would I be able to find music of a similar style to that in the movie Cold Mountain? And some information about the style too? Thankyou [[Special:Contributions/80.35.203.22|80.35.203.22]] ([[User talk:80.35.203.22|talk]]) 14:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


== Joe Bonamassa's "Mind's Eye" starts a lot like some other song? ==
:We have an article on the [[Cold Mountain (soundtrack)]], which further links to [[Appalachian folk music]], which should give you a good start. --[[User:LarryMac|<font color="#3EA99F">LarryMac</font>]][[User talk:LarryMac|<font color="#3EABBF"><small> | Talk</small></font>]] 15:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


Joe Bonamassa's "Mind's Eye" (both live and studio) starts really really like some other song by some other artist I can't quite put my finger on. Very annoying. If you get a chance to give "Mind's Eye" a listen see if it rings a bell? Joe Bonamassa seems to like to "borrow" at times: The live version of "This Train" (for example at the Sydney Opera House or at the Red Rocks Amphitheater, in Morrison, Colorado) uses the intro to Jethro Tull's "Locomotive Breath" totally unashamedly. He's not even trying to hide it. Does one pay royalties for this kind of use? The studio version of "This Train" doesn't do that. [[Special:Contributions/178.51.7.23|178.51.7.23]] ([[User talk:178.51.7.23|talk]]) 10:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
== Hijab gucci calvin klein ==

I began to notice that a lot of Muslim ladies are wearing hijab with brand names on it like Gucci, Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger, in variety of colours. Is there any other clothing brand whose name is on the hijabs? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/142.204.74.240|142.204.74.240]] ([[User talk:142.204.74.240|talk]]) 16:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

= January 27 =

== Olde tyme pipe/tube computer game ==

I have a vague memory of a game I played in school in the late 80s or early 90s, probably on an [[Apple IIe]]. It involved connecting a series of tubes to deliver Senatorial email. Just kidding. It ''did'' involve connecting a series of tubes, but the objective was to deliver a ball to its destination. In addition to differently shaped tubes, you were given tubes of different diameters, and connectors which would change the size of the ball to fit through the tubes. I thought it was called [[Pipe Mania (video game)|Pipe Dream]], but that's clearly the wrong game, and this is driving me a little bit crazy. Thoughts? --[[User:Fullobeans|Fullobeans]] ([[User talk:Fullobeans|talk]]) 07:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:There have been about 100 games with the same basic premise. I used to play one called "Wall Pipe" which had the same basic premise, except you had to get water from a faucet into a bathtub. You had like a 1 minute timer until the water started to flow, then you had to stay ahead of it. The game probably came out in 1990 or 1991 for an early version of Windows. Your game may have very well been called "Pipe Dream" as well... --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 17:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Best aphex twin songs ==

Hey everyone i am just now getting into aphex twin and i was wondering if there were some songs of theirs you would really reccomend? In addition are their any other bands i might enjoy that are similar in sound? Thank you very much!

[[Special:Contributions/24.88.103.234|24.88.103.234]] ([[User talk:24.88.103.234|talk]]) 23:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have an article on [[Aphex Twin]] and one on [[Aphex Twin discography]]. That would give you a start. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 05:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::Other artists that often get mentioned in the same context as Aphex Twin include [[Squarepusher]], [[Venetian Snares]], and [[The Flashbulb]]. Many artists on [[Warp Records]] also tend to be worth looking up in that genre. As for individual recommendations, I've never met two people who agree when it comes to Aphex Twin. He's made quite the variety of stuff and everyone seems to prefer different ones.~ <font color="#228b22">[[User:Mazca|'''m'''a'''z'''c'''a''']]</font> <sup>[[User_talk:Mazca|'''t''']]|[[Special:Contributions/Mazca|'''c''']]</sup> 08:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

:If you're just getting into Aphex Twin be sure to check out the videos for his songs by [[Chris Cunningham]].

= January 28 =

== name the novel (fantasy trilogy) ==

name the novel (fantasy trilogy)

It's a fantasy trilogy novel series... I can't seem to remember its name though. I read it like 5 years ago... In the first book, there is a family (a mother, a father, twin son and daughter, and a baby) and the book starts off with the family moving within the city into a lower hierarchy region. (in the fictional universe of the novel, everyone is divided into different social caste status, with each caste represented by different colours) I don't remember much, but the father takes some kind of an exam to make a living or something, and at the end, the twins do something heroic to save the townspeople. in the second book, the twins are now teenagers, and an evil and sinister force lures in millions of innocent children and brainwashes them to form a mind controlled army. It's rather reminiscent of the chinese army in the korean war: in one incident, these children army literally fills a trench with their bodies to get across it. one of the twins' friends gets recruited into the army against his(/her ??) will and eventually the children manage to save them. (or was all of this in the first book?? i really don't know lol) the army keeps on chanting "Kill! Kill! Kill!" Also in the second book, the twins run away, and the girl twin disguises as a servant of a princess. the princess is rather lonely, so she really likes her servant and they become close friends. However, the princess needs to take dancing lessons so that she can dance with a prince in a ball, but she sucks at it. But the twin girl realizes she is quite good at it even though she has never had any dancing lessons before. So, the girl poses as the princess in the ball, and dances beautifully with the prince. Also, the princess falls in love with the twin brother (she hasn't even met him yet) , just from hearing stories that the twin sister told her. In the third book, the family and some of the townspeople migrate from their homeland to an unknown paradiseland. during their trip, they encounter an unusual creature or more of a mental parasite that latches onto a particular person and makes them act strange. for example, when the parasite was inside the father (the leader of the pack) it makes him snappy and aggressive, and when the parasite resides inside the princess (she actually left her kingdom to follow the twins' family) it makes her less shy and kisses the twin brother. the twin brother has some kind of a psychic ability, and is able to get rid of the parasite (in the princess's case, he kisses her to understand the parasite better, and to drag the parasite out of her) and in an alongside story arc, there is this round looking hermit that bounces, and it recruits the twin brother as his apprentice or something. the bouncy thing teaches the brother how to do supernatural stuff, including walking on air. the twin sister lives with her brother and this hermit on a boat. she learns to do stuff on her own just by watching the hermit give lessons to the brother. near the end of the book, the twin brother must sacrifice himself to save the world or something so he goes to this island where all kinds of strange mythical sorcerers and creatures meet (including the bouncy). but in the end, the bouncy tells him that it wasn't him that was meant to be sacrificed, it was his sister. He doesn't accept his sister's fate, so he fights with her sister (with mental telekinesis or something) but he realizes she is stronger than him, so the sister sacrifices herself in the end. In the epilogue, the family and the townspeople have found their paradiseland, the twin sister is dead, but her mind resides inside the brother's head (they had this special mental connection since they were children). the brother is now happily married with the princess from the second/third book and they have children.

I read this series while i was in adelaide, australia. I borrowed it from the children's books section in the marion library centre (park holme). I'm not sure if this is an australian novel or an american or british, or even if it went international. I know that my description of the series is quite poor, but any help with remembering the name of these novels would be appreciated. Thanks.
[[User:Johnnyboi7|Johnnyboi7]] ([[User talk:Johnnyboi7|talk]]) 08:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well, my first instinct was [[Time of the Twins]], which I haven't read myself, but the description and plot summary don't quite match your summary. I'll have a look and see what I can find. --<small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;background:#ffffff">[[user:Worm That Turned|<font style="color:#ffffff;background:#008000;">&nbsp;WORM</font>]][[User_talk:Worm That Turned|<font style="color:#008000;">MЯOW&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 08:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== T-shirt design ==

Can anyone identify the design on the fourth t-shirt from the bottom of [http://www.sheldonshirts.com/discontinued.html this page]? Is it just some artsy design or is it a reference to something specific? <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 04:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:The green one with the guy with the handlebar mustache, looking at the crescent moon and stars, holding in his hands what appears to be the [[Volcom]] gem logo? Other than being a stylistic picture around the Volcom logo, I don't know of any significance to the picture. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 05:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::OH!! That's what it is! I could make out the moon and stars but didn't "see" a man with a handlebar mustache until you explained it. Now I see it. I guess it's a Volcom shirt now that you also point out what he is holding. Now that I know it's a person and that those bits are arms/hands, it makes more sense. Thanks, <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 08:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Heavy metal a victim of reverse discrimination? (question moved from Misc desk) ==

Have any interesting articles been written on whether the overrepresentation of hip-hop and underrepresentation of metal in the North American music scene is [[reverse discrimination]]? [[User:NeonMerlin|<span style="background:#000;color:red;border:#0f0 solid;border-width:1px 0">Neon</span>]][[User talk:NeonMerlin|<span style="background:#0f0;color:#000;border:red solid;border-width:1px 0">Merlin</span>]] 06:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well, first of all you'd have to define what you mean by the "music scene". That could mean the variety of groups, of venues, of live shows being put on, of records sold, etc. I suspect what you're actually talking about is the media, which is a different thing altogether. Metal fans in Britain – and I suspect it will be the same in North America – are always complaining that their music doesn't get enough coverage in the mainstream media (radio, TV, press and so on). By contrast, hip hop is probably fairly well covered in the media. There's no reason why you should imagine that there's a relationship between these two levels of coverage, though. Most genres except metal – rock, soul, R&B etc – get pretty good coverage. So why doesn't metal, even though metal acts sell millions of records? By and large, because the people who make the decisions on who gets covered feel that metal is basically uncool, with an unattractive image, a fanbase that their viewers/listeners/readers are not part of and have no wish to be, and little to recommend it musically. You could call that unfair if you like, but it would be a waste of time if you ask me. I like free improvisation and post-industrial, and those genres aren't exactly on heavy rotation either. Doesn't bother me. --[[User:Richardrj|Richardrj]] [[User talk:Richardrj|<sup>talk </sup>]][[Special:Emailuser/Richardrj|<sup>email</sup>]] 06:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Discrimination on what basis, is there any evidence that hip-hoppers are a historically disadvantaged group and metallers are members of a historically advantaged group? Or do you mean the demographics of the people that make or listen to such music? In that case is it racial, economic, sexual? [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 08:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

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December 18

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White flashes in the 90s music videos

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Apparently in the 1990s and early 2000s there was an international trend of using repeated white flashes for artistic effect in music videos, particularly when shooting indoors, e.g. in Tarkan - Şımarık, Philipp Kirkorov - Ogon i voda, etc. (now seemingly less used). Is this effect mentioned/discussed somewhere? Brandmeistertalk 19:26, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Frog and Toad All Year audiobook

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British actor Peter Sallis narrated an audio cassette tape titled Frog and Toad All Year which I believe was released in 1976 although being trying to find out if the audio cassette tape is available to buy anywhere. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 21:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The audio CD version (sold together with the book) is listed on Amazon (see here). Whether this is the Sallis recording or a different narrator is not mentioned. Copies might crop up on e.g. Ebay or similar 2nd-hand vendors, but cassette tape eventually deteriorates so the playability of one made almost 50 years ago would be iffy. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 23:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 19

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Little Bear 1996 Audiobooks

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In 1996 British actor Peter Sallis narrated two audiobooks those being Little Bear and Little Bear's Visit and I've been trying to find if any websites that sell it so I can buy it. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 14:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If any websites sell 'something', they need customers to be able to find them. The 'something' would therefore almost certainly show up in any appropriately-worded web search. If you have web-searched for 'something' and not found it, it's a strong indication that the 'something' is not currently being advertised and/or sold (at least online), either new or (currently) via Ebay and other resale sites. On the latter, of course, any 2nd-hand item might show up at any time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 20

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Biggest game between two teams from Indiana ever?

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Any candidates other than this Indiana+ND game? Thanks, Abeg92contribs 04:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Define "biggest". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Most big" 136.56.165.118 (talk) 15:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most supercalifragilisticexpialidociously ginormous, of course. What do they teach in school, these days??? Clarityfiend (talk) 21:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most important potential outcome? Largest spectator attendance? Largest combined score? Most hyped in the media? We cannot know what you (or the OP, if different) mean by "biggest" (or "most big") unless you define it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Moonstone characters that die 1972

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The Moonstone book appears to have three characters from the book that die and it appears that in the 1972 tv series adaptation less of the characters die so how many of the characters from The Moonstone 1972 tv series adaptation die. Also tell me if I was right saying that three of the characters from The Moonstone book die and if I was right tell me each character from the book that dies as well. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 19:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A question better asked on the Italian Wikipedia, since this Italian-language adaptation was made and broadcast in Italy. It's possible that some responder on this en.Wikipedia Ref desk might be able to find out, but seems to me unlikely. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
However, The Moonstone (1972 TV series) was made by the BBC in English and subsequently shown in the USA by PBS (but I don't know the answer). Alansplodge (talk) 13:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, right. I didn't spot this one, because in The Moonstone#Adaptations (where I looked), it's appended to the entry for the 1959 version and thus less noticeable, and the next entry is for the Italian production, which I assumed was the one the OP meant – apologies. Obviously, one would have to both re-read the book (which would take days – it's 450+ pages, nearly 193,000 words) and watch the DVD to work out the answers to the questions, and I do not possess the latter. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 17:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have now separated the two BBC versions in our article. Alansplodge (talk) 21:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 21

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PEGI "Discrimination"

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Have PEGI ever mentioned or otherwise announced why they discontinued their "Discrimination" content descriptor despite?

https://pegi.info/en/search-pegi?q=&age%5B%5D=&descriptor%5B%5D=Discrimination

Looking at their database it was only used on five games from 2004 to 2006 which is miniscule Trade (talk) 02:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://rating-system.fandom.com/wiki/Discrimination_descriptor Polygnotus (talk) 06:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 30

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What's the difference between a free reed and a beating reed?

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I read that although there were so called beating reed instruments in Europe since at least the 14th c. (e.g. the regal) the first free reed instruments only appeared in Europe at the end of the 18th c. (e.g. the harmonium, the accordion, etc.) but I've just realized that I don't even know the difference. Could someone explain? 178.51.7.23 (talk) 12:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This website https://www.patmissin.com/history/whatis.html seems to have an expanded explaination on free vs beating reeda. As I know nothing about the subject I can not judge it. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 19:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly the article Reed aerophone and the Template:Reed aerophones with all the links contained in it will help...? --CiaPan (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not all authors use the same definitions, but in this contrast I suppose "beating reed" corresponds mainly to the Hornbostel–Sachs categories 422.1 and 422.2 (the single and double reed instruments, such as the clarinet and the oboe), in which the vibrating single reed beats one edge of the mouthpiece and the vibrating double reeds beat against each other. The "free reeds" are then presumably a combination of category 412.13 (the free-reed instruments, mainly the accordions and harmonicas) and category 422.3, a very small group of Chinese instruments, in which the vibrating reed vibrates freely, not striking anything else.  --Lambiam 14:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you certain? Aren't the beating reeds Hornbostel-Sachs 412.12 (so called "percussion" reeds defined as "a single lamella strikes against a frame"). In any case where on earth are the reed pipes of church organs and reeds of the regal (a kind of medieval organ with only beating reeds and no pipes)? Couldn't find them either in the file mentioned above or in List of aerophones by Hornbostel-Sachs number. 178.51.7.23 (talk) 15:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I wrote, different sources have different definitions. The Encyclopædia Brittanica identifies "single reed" with "beating reed".[1] Other authors distinguish between "single beating reed" and "double beating reed".[2][3] I can't be certain without seeing the context in which these terms are used, but as far as I'm aware no common current instruments fit Hornbostel-Sachs 412.12. The confusing conceptual duplication of sections 412 and 422 has encountered some criticism, as in the book Reed Instruments: The Montagu Collection: an Annotated Catalogue: "I have taken the liberty of of dividing those instruments which should come together under 412 into their types, taking the concussion reeds (412.11) with the double-reed instruments (422.1), the percussion reeds (412.12) with the single-reed instruments (422.2), the free reeds (412.13) with the free-reed instruments (422.3), and placing the ribbon reeds (412.14) at the end, followed by the category, unrecognised by Hornbostel & Sachs but established by Henry Balfour, of retreating reeds, giving these the new number of 412.15."[4] Reed organs (and reed pipes of multi-register organs) tend to be free-reed instruments; see the mentions of organs in Free reed aerophone.  --Lambiam 00:34, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually List of aerophones by Hornbostel-Sachs number lists under 412.122 "earlier organs", so not empty. Most of the reed pipes (the earlier ones) in normal organs (leaving aside reed organs) are not free reeds. See Reed pipe. Some of them are (cf. their paragraph in that article) but they are a new thing. If we are to believe Pump organ the free reed was introduced in Europe only at the end of the 18th century, yet there have been reed pipes in organs and there have been regals in Europe since as early as the 14th century. That there are terminology and classification issues in organology I can well believe. There are such problems in biology and linguistics so why wouldn't there be in organology. Jeremy Montagu's critique of the usual Hornbostel-Sachs may well be valid. Maybe it does make sense to put percussion reeds with single-reed instruments and get rid of that category. I couldn't say say, since 24 hours ago I had no idea even what a beating reed was. 178.51.7.23 (talk) 06:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

December 31

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Anyone's tried "triple" reeds?

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I'm about to experiment with my oboe: I'm planning to insert a little piece of reed between the two reeds of the (European) mouthpiece of my oboe, and then blow and see what happens. (A great December 31st activity!) But before I ruin a good oboe (European) mouthpiece I'd like to know if anyone has tried that already and what happened? 178.51.7.23 (talk) 15:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No idea, but if you're going to fiddle with making/adding a handmade reed, make sure on your inhale you put your tongue forward incase anything comes loose causing you to choke. You could of course, buy a triple reed.
This safety announcement is not endorsed by Wikipedia. Knitsey (talk) 16:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent point. Thanks a lot. Gotta make sure I don't swallow that little piece of reed and choke on my experiment. Surely, that would be a bad joke on a December 31st! Are there triple reeds for oboes? Really? 178.51.7.23 (talk) 16:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I played oboe in uni but that was many, MANY years ago. No such thing then but I googled triple reed and yes, you can buy them. Knitsey (talk) 16:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 1

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Joe Bonamassa's "Mind's Eye" starts a lot like some other song?

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Joe Bonamassa's "Mind's Eye" (both live and studio) starts really really like some other song by some other artist I can't quite put my finger on. Very annoying. If you get a chance to give "Mind's Eye" a listen see if it rings a bell? Joe Bonamassa seems to like to "borrow" at times: The live version of "This Train" (for example at the Sydney Opera House or at the Red Rocks Amphitheater, in Morrison, Colorado) uses the intro to Jethro Tull's "Locomotive Breath" totally unashamedly. He's not even trying to hide it. Does one pay royalties for this kind of use? The studio version of "This Train" doesn't do that. 178.51.7.23 (talk) 10:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]