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The result was '''delete'''. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 00:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC) |
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===[[Dentokan]]=== |
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This article is very strange, it may well be a hoax. Certainly, it isn't backed up by any concrete sources. While I'm by no means an expert on martial arts (and if anyone is, please feel free to correct me!), I don't think it's notable. PROD [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dentokan&diff=275469047&oldid=275387681 removed] by article creator, so came here. < |
This article is very strange, it may well be a hoax. Certainly, it isn't backed up by any concrete sources. While I'm by no means an expert on martial arts (and if anyone is, please feel free to correct me!), I don't think it's notable. PROD [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dentokan&diff=275469047&oldid=275387681 removed] by article creator, so came here. <span style="color:#A20846;">╟─[[User:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Treasury</span>]][[User talk:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Tag</span>]]►[[Special:Contributions/TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">contribs</span>]]─╢</span> 21:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - Makes no sense at all! <span style="border:1px solid deeppink;font-size:70%;padding:2px;">[[User:Jenuk1985|< |
*'''Delete''' - Makes no sense at all! <span style="border:1px solid deeppink;font-size:70%;padding:2px;">[[User:Jenuk1985|<span style="color:deeppink;">Jenuk1985</span>]] | [[User talk:Jenuk1985|<span style="color:deeppink;">Talk</span>]]</span> 21:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' - the arical Dentokan has sources, the refanes. i did not remove the PROD. i put it on the talk page like the PROD page said. i put more refances on the page so i moved it.[[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 21:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' - the arical Dentokan has sources, the refanes. i did not remove the PROD. i put it on the talk page like the PROD page said. i put more refances on the page so i moved it.[[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 21:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:*You did remove the PROD, click [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dentokan&diff=275469047&oldid=275387681 here] to refresh your memory! < |
:*You did remove the PROD, click [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dentokan&diff=275469047&oldid=275387681 here] to refresh your memory! <span style="color:#A20846;">╟─[[User:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Treasury</span>]][[User talk:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Tag</span>]]►[[Special:Contributions/TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">contribs</span>]]─╢</span> 21:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::*[http://www.facebook.com/pages/Warrensburg-MO/Dentokan-Martial-Arts-for-Adults-and-Kids/21752283128], [http://www.dexknows.com/detailsSearch/2000000056145971-62223-572-1-1/] [[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 21:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
::*[http://www.facebook.com/pages/Warrensburg-MO/Dentokan-Martial-Arts-for-Adults-and-Kids/21752283128], [http://www.dexknows.com/detailsSearch/2000000056145971-62223-572-1-1/] [[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 21:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' - mabye i did opps. i may have not save it to the take page. put back if you like.[[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 21:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' - mabye i did opps. i may have not save it to the take page. put back if you like.[[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 21:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:*Too late now, I'm afraid - once a tag's removed, that's it. We'll let this AfD run, should make a better decision, anyway. Thanks for the offer, though! < |
:*Too late now, I'm afraid - once a tag's removed, that's it. We'll let this AfD run, should make a better decision, anyway. Thanks for the offer, though! <span style="color:#A20846;">╟─[[User:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Treasury</span>]][[User talk:TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">Tag</span>]]►[[Special:Contributions/TreasuryTag|<span style="color:#A20846;">contribs</span>]]─╢</span> 21:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' - Dentokan is practiced by a lot of people. There are 3 dojos in central Missouri alone. this Saturday. 10 people are competing in the Jefferson City tournament Dentokan is a martial art that should by in wikipedia and is notable.[[Special:Contributions/75.105.128.38|75.105.128.38]] ([[User talk:75.105.128.38|talk]]) 00:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC) [[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] |
*'''Comment''' - Dentokan is practiced by a lot of people. There are 3 dojos in central Missouri alone. this Saturday. 10 people are competing in the Jefferson City tournament Dentokan is a martial art that should by in wikipedia and is notable.[[Special:Contributions/75.105.128.38|75.105.128.38]] ([[User talk:75.105.128.38|talk]]) 00:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC) [[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] |
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*'''Weak delete''' I don't know that much about the martial arts either, but the subject doesn't have the necessary independent sources to establish notability and the article sounds a little too much like promotion for me. <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Mbinebri|< |
*'''Weak delete''' I don't know that much about the martial arts either, but the subject doesn't have the necessary independent sources to establish notability and the article sounds a little too much like promotion for me. <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Mbinebri|<span style="color:black;background:white;font-family:helvica;">'' '''Mbinebri''' ''</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Mbinebri|talk ←]]</sup> 02:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''' - There is currently nothing in this article to indicate that this school is any more notable than any other of many martial art schools around the world. Almost all of the references are to articles published by the school itself, and the only reference that does not fall into this category links to an unoccupied domain (http://www.goyukan.net/). The ''History'' section, which is probably the section that is most likely to justify this school's notability, is only one sentence. All of the other sections are generic, in that they could be written about many other martial art schools. If you are reading this and you are a primary contributor to the article, I would recommend: (1) put yourself in the position of someone who is knowledgeable about martial arts and ask what would set this school apart from the thousands of other karate schools that exist (you then need to put this information into the article); (2) remove most or all of the content that could be found in the [[Karate]] article (or karate-related articles that already exist); and (3) provide independent references (i.e., not just the school's own publications, although it would be perfectly valid to include them as some of the references). Trust this helps. [[User:Janggeom|Janggeom]] ([[User talk:Janggeom|talk]]) 09:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
* '''Delete''' - There is currently nothing in this article to indicate that this school is any more notable than any other of many martial art schools around the world. Almost all of the references are to articles published by the school itself, and the only reference that does not fall into this category links to an unoccupied domain (http://www.goyukan.net/). The ''History'' section, which is probably the section that is most likely to justify this school's notability, is only one sentence. All of the other sections are generic, in that they could be written about many other martial art schools. If you are reading this and you are a primary contributor to the article, I would recommend: (1) put yourself in the position of someone who is knowledgeable about martial arts and ask what would set this school apart from the thousands of other karate schools that exist (you then need to put this information into the article); (2) remove most or all of the content that could be found in the [[Karate]] article (or karate-related articles that already exist); and (3) provide independent references (i.e., not just the school's own publications, although it would be perfectly valid to include them as some of the references). Trust this helps. [[User:Janggeom|Janggeom]] ([[User talk:Janggeom|talk]]) 09:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' - Google shows plenty of references from around the world, including [http://www.volksblatt.li/default.aspx?newsid=13994&src=vb&cat=Sport this one] from Liechtenstein. . . [[User:Rcawsey|Rcawsey]] ([[User talk:Rcawsey|talk]]) 10:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' - Google shows plenty of references from around the world, including [http://www.volksblatt.li/default.aspx?newsid=13994&src=vb&cat=Sport this one] from Liechtenstein. . . [[User:Rcawsey|Rcawsey]] ([[User talk:Rcawsey|talk]]) 10:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' per Janggeom. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><span style="color:#FF0000;">St</span><span style="color:#FF5500;">ar</span><span style="color:#FF8000;">bli</span><span style="color:#FFC000;">nd</span></b> 10:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' - i put more on the history.[[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 12:54, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment'''- I found this news ((http://www.vaterland.li/page/archiv/detail.cfm?id=26483&begriff1=organi&begriff2=&begriff3=)) article with Google about dentokan in gemany. It is German but you can Translate it with Google translate((http://translate.google.com/translate_t#)). this is a Solid external source. [[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 15:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Martial arts|list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions]]. </small> <small>-- [[User:Nate1481|Nate]][[User talk:Nate1481|14]][[Special:Contributions/Nate1481|81]] 11:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)</small> |
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* '''Delete''' - Another Martial art school advert. --[[User:Nate1481|Nate]][[User talk:Nate1481|14]][[Special:Contributions/Nate1481|81]] 11:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' vanity page for a nn newly created art. [[User:JJL|JJL]] ([[User talk:JJL|talk]]) 14:22, 12 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' - I added a part that has links to other dojos around the world that also do dentokan. When this article was put up for deletion it was for not haveing noteability and for being a possible hoax. those links should be as much as needed to show that it nether.[[User:Fld300b|Fld300b]] ([[User talk:Fld300b|talk]]) 20:55, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
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