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==Copper recovery from wastewater==
The biofuel cell made by [[Annemiek Ter Heijne]] can be used to retrieve copper from wastewater. This would increase yields, and more importantly, reduce the amount of cupper that comes into large rivers/lakes from the mine. See http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100526g , http://www.wur.nl/uk/newsagenda/archive/news/2010/Biofuel_cell_retrieves_copper.htm


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[[User:KVDP|KVDP]] ([[User talk:KVDP|talk]]) 13:30, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100526g


==Problems with the article==
I'm unsure how to make changes to the original article, so if you are able, then please put this in there;
I chanced across this article when looking for an explanation of "blister copper" in Wikipedia. It has some problems. For a start, the comment that it is about historical extraction techniques doesn't seem to accord with the content.


Secondly, the heading "Blister copper extraction" is kind of meaningless. Blister copper is a step along the route to the production of copper metal that precedes fire refining. I changed the title to "Sulfide smelting".
In the Concentration section there is the following statement;


Froth flotation is probably better separated from smelting, as it can be a precursor to leaching as well.
"Ground ore is mixed with xanthate reagents (for example, pine oil)"


I don't have time at the moment, but I will get back to this page at some time in the future and fix the major issues.
This is true, however reagents other than xanthates are commonly used. Another common class of collector are dithiophosphates. Also used are thionocarbamates.


By way of explanation, I worked in copper smelters for almost 20 years and have a modicum of understanding of the processes used.[[User:ChrisFountain|ChrisFountain]] ([[User talk:ChrisFountain|talk]]) 07:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
I can't figure out how to edit the photo caption "The El Chino open-pit copper mine in New Mexico"
This should read "Chino open-pit copper mine in New Mexico" or "The Chino..."
Note that it's correctly-captioned on the blowup page.
Pete Tillman, 18:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:: Fixed that for ya. [[User:Saimhe|saimhe]] 21:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


== Tepesi claims of 7,250 BC, and Serbian site in same section ("History") ==
==Pyro section==
I'm sorry, I'm in a complaining mood tonight:
What happened in 2005 to make roasting so unpopular? This answer is nothing, and I'm being silly. But why say "as of 2005" as if there was some sort of change then? Anyway... partial roasting was done upstream of reverberatory furnaces or submerged arc electric furnaces to control the matte chemistry. Reverbs had environmental and thermal inefficiency problems. Electric furnaces are subject to electricity prices, and it's economics that hurt there. Flash smelting is now preferred because you essentially partial roast in the feed section, and the roasting reactions(sometimes helped out with fuel oil combustion) provide the heat for smelting. In a way, the flash smelter is simply a design that combines a roaster and a smelter in the same furnace. I'm not very familiar with the El Teniente furnace, but isn't that considered a converter, rather than a smelting furnace? And finally (you thought this gripe would never end), defining an anode furnace as a furnace that makes anodes is not very instructive. Besides, the anodes are "made" on the casting wheel outside the furnace. Just complaining tonight, I'll try and make some corrections soon. (I need to refresh my memory on the El Teniente converter, and maybe get some info on the Noranda reactor to throw in for good measure.) [[User:BSMet94|BSMet94]] 06:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


Source gave only "4515" BC as a carbon-date, not 7250 BC as claimed in this article -- and NEITHER date is linked by the authors to the copper-production era of this site (they discuss findings in several eras, or "stages" within the same location); '''copper ITSELF cannot be carbon-dated, anyway (contrary to how a WP editor had (misre-)presented the claim of 7,250 BC, which was an unreferenced claim, as well), and so copper items need to be linked (by a credible scientific source) to contextual evidence, such as carbon life, within the SAME ARCHAEOLOGICAL LAYER as the copper items in question.'''
==Name change==
This article is a little unwieldy and far-reaching to my mind. Copper extraction obviously involves a lot of things related to many wide and varied subjects, a lot of which actually have nothing to do with the ''extraction'' per se, of copper. This, sadly includes;
*All of the geology and formation of copper orebodies
In essence, copper extraction is a process involving a subset of other processes, chief amongst them being two things;
* Mining - which can be covered elsewhere, c.f. [[open cast mine]]
* Metallurgy - the bulk of the page.


Serbian site (Plocnik): The only source has a title which denotes uncertain (NOT "secure") dating: "Serbian site MAY HAVE hosted first...". But then it contradicts itself by claiming "secure dating" a few lines down; source is a ''science journalist'' rather than an actual scientist (archaeologist), raising issues of WP:RS, etc, when combined with his self-contradiction, and '''getting a Primary Source (archaeologist) hopefully will help to clear up exactly how certain the ''actual scientific expert'' is, regarding his own dating.'''
I would therefore propose that "copper extraction" could be renamed "copper refining" or similar, and the sections on the geology and primary/secondary/oxide ore classification moved off and left as links to other subjects/topics. After all, the nature of the ore only matters for extraction as far as the refining or metallurgy is concerned - they are almost always mined (aka "extracted" from the Earth in exactly the same two ways.
[[Special:Contributions/72.183.52.92|72.183.52.92]] ([[User talk:72.183.52.92|talk]]) 02:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
[[User:Rolinator|Rolinator]] 01:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


== External links modified ==
:Agreed and removed the fromation/mining sections. Do we need a name change? Copper extraction from ores? [[User:Vsmith|Vsmith]] 03:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yes I agree - "copper extraction and purification", "copper extraction and refining", "copper prodution" or similar. Electrorefining is not technically extraction in one interpretation.
== Environmental Impact of Copper Mining ==


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Copper has a density of 89.4 g/cc, so a 100 cm by 100 cm by 1 cm plate of pure copper will weigh 89.4 kilograms. It is therefore unlikely that a 96cm by 96cm by 1cm plate of copper will weigh 100 kilograms, as previously stated in the article.


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==Question==
what does " It is a true commodity,<u> deliverable to the metal exchanges in New York, London and Shanghai</u>" mean - is this even true - do lorries deliver copper bar to the stock exchanges?


== Requested move 27 January 2017 ==
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This article (or [[copper]]) doesn't make it clear - is all copper used today purified by electrolysis by use - is any blister copper etc used for alloy manufacture?[[User:FengRail|FengRail]] ([[User talk:FengRail|talk]]) 20:39, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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* [[:Copper extraction techniques]] → {{no redirect|Copper extraction}}
: To answer part one; no, and yes. LME warehouses do physically exist, but even the "inventory" quoted on the LME is not a true reflection of the physical stock in hand at the physical locations of the LME warehouses. The vast majority of physical copper moves either from mine to smelter-refiner and on to customer (in the case of sulphide sources) or mine to customer in the case of producers of 99.999% copper cathode. Some does go to the LME warehouse, but most of the LME traded copper is handled on warrants and receipts, so the copper doesn't have to physically leave the mine or refiner before being shipped direct to the customer. Its mostly irrelevant what happens to it in the distribution chain anyway. I'll have a look at whether it needs a rewrite.
* [[:Cobalt extraction techniques]] → {{no redirect|Cobalt extraction}}
– The "techniques" at the end of the current name is unnecessary (see [[Gold extraction]]). [[User:Laurdecl|Laurdecl]] <sup>[[User_talk:Laurdecl|talk]]</sup> 05:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC) <small>--'''''Relisting.''''' [[User:JudgeRM|<span style="font-family:segoe print;color:goldenrod">'''JudgeRM'''</span>]] [[User talk:JudgeRM|<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:teal">'''(talk to me)'''</span>]] 03:26, 4 February 2017 (UTC)</small>
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: Secondly, the vast majority of copper sourced from sulphides is purified via electrolysis. I'm not sure that unpurified copper is used in manufacturing of alloys. Cathode copper can be used directly in wire lants or piping without further refining. [[User:Rolinator|Rolinator]] ([[User talk:Rolinator|talk]]) 06:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
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== Concentration (benefication) - Specialized Ores ==

I have drafted a copy of a newly improved part of the specialized ores section for this article. This entailed changing some of the sentences in the section to match current research. I also added citations to the section since there currently are none. I will be moving the draft into the main article momentarily and it should be available to view within the hour. I would greatly appreciate any feedback that may further improve this section. [[User:User5843|User5843]] ([[User talk:User5843|talk]]) 00:12, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

:I have also added another sentence describing new techniques tailored to processing low-grade ores. [[User:User5843|User5843]] ([[User talk:User5843|talk]]) 02:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

== Scope of the article has changed to include modern techniques ==

It seems from the above comment that @[[User:User5843|User5843]] has added info about new techniques thus changing the scope of the article to broaden it from just historical techniques.

I think that was a good move therefore I am excerpting [[ISASMELT]] to this article. [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1|talk]]) 07:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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Copper recovery from wastewater

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The biofuel cell made by Annemiek Ter Heijne can be used to retrieve copper from wastewater. This would increase yields, and more importantly, reduce the amount of cupper that comes into large rivers/lakes from the mine. See http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100526g , http://www.wur.nl/uk/newsagenda/archive/news/2010/Biofuel_cell_retrieves_copper.htm

add to article KVDP (talk) 13:30, 21 March 2011 (UTC) http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es100526g[reply]

Problems with the article

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I chanced across this article when looking for an explanation of "blister copper" in Wikipedia. It has some problems. For a start, the comment that it is about historical extraction techniques doesn't seem to accord with the content.

Secondly, the heading "Blister copper extraction" is kind of meaningless. Blister copper is a step along the route to the production of copper metal that precedes fire refining. I changed the title to "Sulfide smelting".

Froth flotation is probably better separated from smelting, as it can be a precursor to leaching as well.

I don't have time at the moment, but I will get back to this page at some time in the future and fix the major issues.

By way of explanation, I worked in copper smelters for almost 20 years and have a modicum of understanding of the processes used.ChrisFountain (talk) 07:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tepesi claims of 7,250 BC, and Serbian site in same section ("History")

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Source gave only "4515" BC as a carbon-date, not 7250 BC as claimed in this article -- and NEITHER date is linked by the authors to the copper-production era of this site (they discuss findings in several eras, or "stages" within the same location); copper ITSELF cannot be carbon-dated, anyway (contrary to how a WP editor had (misre-)presented the claim of 7,250 BC, which was an unreferenced claim, as well), and so copper items need to be linked (by a credible scientific source) to contextual evidence, such as carbon life, within the SAME ARCHAEOLOGICAL LAYER as the copper items in question.

Serbian site (Plocnik): The only source has a title which denotes uncertain (NOT "secure") dating: "Serbian site MAY HAVE hosted first...". But then it contradicts itself by claiming "secure dating" a few lines down; source is a science journalist rather than an actual scientist (archaeologist), raising issues of WP:RS, etc, when combined with his self-contradiction, and getting a Primary Source (archaeologist) hopefully will help to clear up exactly how certain the actual scientific expert is, regarding his own dating. 72.183.52.92 (talk) 02:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) SkyWarrior 03:38, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


– The "techniques" at the end of the current name is unnecessary (see Gold extraction). Laurdecl talk 05:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. JudgeRM (talk to me) 03:26, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Concentration (benefication) - Specialized Ores

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I have drafted a copy of a newly improved part of the specialized ores section for this article. This entailed changing some of the sentences in the section to match current research. I also added citations to the section since there currently are none. I will be moving the draft into the main article momentarily and it should be available to view within the hour. I would greatly appreciate any feedback that may further improve this section. User5843 (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have also added another sentence describing new techniques tailored to processing low-grade ores. User5843 (talk) 02:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Scope of the article has changed to include modern techniques

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It seems from the above comment that @User5843 has added info about new techniques thus changing the scope of the article to broaden it from just historical techniques.

I think that was a good move therefore I am excerpting ISASMELT to this article. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]