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==45 Million== |
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Here are several sites that list the updated Wii sales: |
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- http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/2008-s-console-sales-nintendo-rules-microsoft-wins-sony-tries-/224691/ |
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- http://www.edge-online.com/news/ms-360-life-date-sales-hit-28m |
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- http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/wii-sports-is-best-selling-game-ever/1276855 <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xander756|contribs]]) 00:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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- http://blog.mlive.com/manzero/2009/01/wii_sports_passes_super_mario.html <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xander756|contribs]]) 00:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The 45 million number comes from VG Chartz, which is not a reliable source. They BS their numbers, and per [[WP:VG]] should be avoided. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:20, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::I find it hard to believe Aaron Greenberg uses VGChartz to keep track of his competition. Please list where it states he is guessing before reverting again (also, should you be reverting something that isn't vadalism?). --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 00:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Read the article again. The 45 million statement is not in quotations, meaning the writer of the article (Kris Graft) is stating the 45 million number. Greenberg only talks about Xbox 360 numbers and how far they are ahead of the PS3, he never mentions the Wii numbers. The 45 million number is BS and not true. Hell, take a look at your first source for proof its from VGC. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::You are the one that said you have sources which are quoting Greenberg as guessing at this as the worldwide sales figure for the Wii. Now you are saying that he never said it at all? --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 00:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::I was mistaken when I said that, I had read the original source too fast. I have checked again though (you should too), Greenberg never said that. It was Kris Graft who did. The 45 million number is definitely from VG Chartz, and we don't use their BS numbers. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::Well hey, if you want false and out-dated information then who am I to stand against the "person who made [[Wii]] a featured article". Obviously, you are right and I am wrong. That's why I always hate trying to edit articles on wiki that have people that watch over them because they have such arrogant egos that it's like they don't want any contributions to the article unless they make it or approve. Let me know when <b>you</b> create a video game and I'll be sure to check it out. --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 06:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::How is the current info false? It says 34.55 million as of September 30. That is right from Nintendo itself. It is better to have slightly out of date info that is TRUE and from a reliable source than to have BS info from a unreliable source. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 06:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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I would disagree, the 45 million is correct according to many reliable sources such as ign, gamestop, and gamespy <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Metroid476|Metroid476]] ([[User talk:Metroid476|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Metroid476|contribs]]) 00:38, 11 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:No, they are just citing the same unreliable source: VG Chartz. The number is still false. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC) |
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then i think the question is why would more than three reliable sources cite an unreliable one? I think i even saw it on the featured section of cnn.com. However, i agree with you. any info on this topic should come from nintendo itself and not these unreliable sites[[User:Metroid476|Metroid476]] ([[User talk:Metroid476|talk]]) 03:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I only have theories (since you would have to ask them why, and hope they would actually answer). One is that they like reporting sales numbers and don't care where they come from. The second is that a subscription to NPD costs a lot of money (I don't remember the exact amount, but it's over $10,000 per month) and they may not want to spend that kind of money, especially sites that don't cover video games full time. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 04:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Ah I see the sales have been changed. Looks like I was right all along. I shall await your apology. --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 16:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::No, you were still wrong since VG Chartz is not a reliable source. Their guesses are once in awhile close. They are other times really far off, their December Wii numbers were wrong by more than 500,000 (which is which is a huge amount to be wrong by). It's not that hard to estimate where Wii sales will be since its sales are consistent. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 17:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Here's a towel. Wipe that egg off your face. --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 00:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::There's no egg on my face. VH Chartz's guesses are sometimes close. Did you also ignore the fact that their December Wii numbers were wrong by more than 500 THOUSAND? I'm starting to think you are either ioi (the joke of a editor who runs the site) or work for the site. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::I was permabanned from VGChartz for pointing out their numbers were inaccurate. --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 05:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::First off, you aren't permabanned, not anymore anyway. Second I think you're ban had more to do with you taunting everybody. [[User:Rhonin the wizard|Rhonin the wizard]] ([[User talk:Rhonin the wizard|talk]]) 06:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::I still am unable to login so I guess I'm still banned. And to my knowledge, I was banned for posting comments on LBPs page requesting the numbers to be fixed. The comment was deleted several times so I kept posting it, because there's no reason to hide it. After awhile, I was banned. Anyway, it doesn't change the fact that I owned TJ Spyke! He was wrong and still can't admit it. Hahaha...silly wikipedian power trip.--[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 16:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::::[http://vgchartz.com/profiles/profile.php?id=38126 This] is your account, isn't it? Also about the LBP numbers, Kaz Hirai said "1.3 million unique users", not how many people bought the game. [[User:Rhonin the wizard|Rhonin the wizard]] ([[User talk:Rhonin the wizard|talk]]) 16:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::Comparing with the official NPD numbers, LBP's sales in America are overtracked by several hundred thousand. --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 17:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I don't care what you think. You didn't own me. Am I supposed to be impressed that their guess was close? They are not a reliable site. They are also a joke when they are wrong, I loved the spin they tried make when their December numbers for Wii were off by more than 500 Thousand (and not the first time they have been wrong). '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 17:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::If we were to eliminate every reliable source that has made a mistake, how many would we have left? Also, prove to me that NPD numbers are reliable. [[User:Rhonin the wizard|Rhonin the wizard]] ([[User talk:Rhonin the wizard|talk]]) 17:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::That is a huge number to be off by, and it's far from the first time. As for NPD, how about the fact that every single game publisher uses NPD? The fact that NPD openly says what stores they track, how much they extrapolate, what their methods are, etc. while VG Chartz refuses to provide any info? That's like saying "prove to me Nielsen is reliable for album sales". Bottom line, NPD is reliable while VG Chartz isn't. Their numbers will not be allowed on this page and will be reverted as vandalism. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 17:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::"NPD openly says what stores they track, how much they extrapolate, what their methods are" Would you kindly provide a link. I've never seen them doing it, or Media Create, or ChartTrack, etc. Also, Media Create, Famitsu and Dengeki disagree a lot of times, but I don't see you claiming one is reliable, while the others are not. [[User:Rhonin the wizard|Rhonin the wizard]] ([[User talk:Rhonin the wizard|talk]]) 18:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::ChartTrack almost never releases numbers, that's why we rarely have European data. Media Create and Famitsu are rival '''professional''' tracking services (not a wannabe fan site that makes up data). NPD: [http://www.npd.com/corpServlet?nextpage=retail-tracking_s.html]. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 18:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::You and I have a different definition of openly. Might as well add this "VG Chartz estimated sell-through figures are arrived at by tracking sample data from an ever-expanding panel of retail partners and benchmarking the sample data against known reference points (manufacturer shipment figures for example).". [[User:Rhonin the wizard|Rhonin the wizard]] ([[User talk:Rhonin the wizard|talk]]) 18:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::The fact that publishers use NPD though supports them. It's all a moot point anyways, VG Charzt is not allowed as a source on Wikipedia due to them being an unreliable source. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 18:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::[http://ww.lotro-europe.com/corporate/press/article.php?id=9918 Codemasters] have cited VGChartz. [[User:Rhonin the wizard|Rhonin the wizard]] ([[User talk:Rhonin the wizard|talk]]) 18:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::And Codemasters became a laughingstock on the Internet. Even VG Chartz said the 500K number for Dirt was shipped numbers and not sold (NPD uses actual sold numbers, meaning how many people buy the game). Considering that your favorite site said that the first week the game sold 290K in the US and Europe [http://www.joystiq.com/tag/vg+chartz/]. Based on actual NPD numbers, it became clear that Codemasters just wanted to hype up the game to boost sales (the Xbox 360 version was only 20th in it's first month (and sales continued to be low). '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 19:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::That sure showed him! --[[User:Xander756|Xander756]] ([[User talk:Xander756|talk]]) 17:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Not really I've been busy with university exams, sorry for the late reply. @TJ Spyke I don't really care for what reason Codemasters used the numbers. All publishers use sales numbers to hype their games. Some use spin and try to make their situation look better. [[User:Rhonin the wizard|Rhonin the wizard]] ([[User talk:Rhonin the wizard|talk]]) 17:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::You are right about that. It was funny to see Sony say that the PlayStation "family" (meaning PS2, PS3, PSP combined) was #1 since the PS2 and PS3 were being outsold by the Wii and Xbox 360 and PSP outsold by DS, so they wanted to spin that somehow to help them. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 18:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Shouldn't this be updated it is now almost mid-march 2009, clearly over 50 million have been sold.--[[User:Cooly123|Cooly123]] ([[User talk:Cooly123|talk]]) 19:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::We don't list what it "probably" is. We update when there is a reliable source. The last reliable source for total sales was the period ending December 31. I also doubt 5 million systems have been sold in only 2 months (especially since January and February are not big months in terms of sales numbers). '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 19:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::An article on [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7964459.stm BBC News] today puts sales as breaking the 50 million mark, quoting Nintendo's Satoru Iwata - Does that count as a reliable source or does it need to cite actual sales figures? [[User:Sjwk|sjwk]] ([[User talk:Sjwk|talk]]) 00:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::There is already a GameSpot reference in the article that reports the 50 million number (in the System Sales section). So it would probably be best to just use that ref. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Ah, missed that one, sorry. Should the infobox be updated or does that only happen at end of a given sales period? [[User:Sjwk|sjwk]] ([[User talk:Sjwk|talk]]) 00:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::It's an official statement from Nintendo, so I guess it can be updated in the infobox. I'm not sure though. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Citation 49, under the Launch section, throws an error when clicked on. I can't access the resource anymore. Any help? [[User:RteeeeKed|<span style="color: cyan; background-color: black;">RteeeeKed</span>]][[User talk:RteeeeKed|💬]][[Special:Contributions/RteeeeKed|📖]] 19:29, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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I have noticed that many pages link to external wikis and I was wondering if there was any reason why I shouldn't link to the [http://wii.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Wii Wiki on Wikia]. [[User:GT5162|GT5162]] <sup>[[User_talk:GT5162|(我的对话页)]]</sup> 21:32, 15 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm not sure that site passes [[WP:EL]]. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 21:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:The archive link is bad but the original IGN link works. Likely needs to be re-archived. [[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 19:43, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Wii sales down under == |
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::{{ping|Masem}} I don't think using IAB would fix that right? It would jsut see that htere's an archive link and move along. Or would I just have to remove the archive link and then run IAB? ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze__wolf</sub> 19:49, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Well, try removing it and then running IAB. Can't hurt, right? [[User:RteeeeKed|<span style="color: cyan; background-color: black;">RteeeeKed</span>]][[User talk:RteeeeKed|💬]][[Special:Contributions/RteeeeKed|📖]] 20:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::I tried it, and it's telling me that I need the analyzepage permission. I think I have the User group, and that should make it work, but it's not, so I don't know what's happening. [[User:RteeeeKed|<span style="color: cyan; background-color: black;">RteeeeKed</span>]][[User talk:RteeeeKed|💬]][[Special:Contributions/RteeeeKed|📖]] 20:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::I have fixed it with a different archive link [[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 21:06, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::Thanks. [[User:RteeeeKed|<span style="color: cyan; background-color: black;">RteeeeKed</span>]][[User talk:RteeeeKed|💬]][[Special:Contributions/RteeeeKed|📖]] 21:28, 8 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Wrong description of RAM type, muddled wording. == |
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If I am not wrong the Wii sales are unknown in Austraila, why? Are there in sources to vertify the Wii sales in Austraila? mcjakeqcool [[User:Mcjakeqcool|Mcjakeqcool]] ([[User talk:Mcjakeqcool|talk]]) 09:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:Nintendo puts Wii sales in 3 categories: "Japan", "North America", "Other". I think you can guess where Australia is (unless you are terrible at geography). '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 16:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC) |
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In the following section under Console heading then Hardware, in the 2nd paragraph, reference is made to 1T-SRAM both to 24MBytes and 64MBytes, the latter is wrong, and should be 64MBytes of GDDR3 not 1T-SRAM. The 24Mbytes of 1T-SRAM is the right ammount and type though all the wording in that section is very sloppy and confusing. [[Special:Contributions/184.151.230.61|184.151.230.61]] ([[User talk:184.151.230.61|talk]]) 00:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Wii blocks to kilobytes == |
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== Shibata and others == |
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So, nobody even mentions Wii blocks in the article, which is the unit of measurement used by Nintendo for space. And don't quote a forum as a source! Does anybody know how many Wii blocks equals to how many kilobytes? Or even megabytes. And by the normal measurement, not this BS measurement of "maybe-bytes" or anything like that, because, working with computers for 30 years, nobody uses these Wikipedian forms of measurement that two users cooked up to confuse the world. MB = 1 megabyte, which is 1024 KB (kilobytes), etc. Mb and Kb are for kilobits, and a number like 800k means kilobytes. There are 8 bits per byte. In the gaming word of bits, 1000 bits equals a kilobit, etc. It doesn't go with the Microsoft forms of measurement, which the rest of computer world uses. |
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Why is there no mention or quotes from Nintendo of Europe, or Nintendo of Australia or Nintendo of Korea, CEO's, COO's or marketing directors in regards to the Wii and Wii u? There's already a staggering''' 4!''' quotes from [[Reggie Fils-Aimé ]] across the Wii and Wii U articles, yet none from [[Satoru Shibata]], [[Stephen Bole]], [[Tom Enoki]], [[Hiroyuki Fukuda]], [[Matthias Hempfling]], Et-cetera. [[Special:Contributions/68.189.2.14|68.189.2.14]] ([[User talk:68.189.2.14|talk]]) 09:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Now, take a 2 GB SD card. It has 15,000 blocks. Divide the actual, down to the byte capacity of that so-called 2 GB SD card, and that equals 15,000 Wii blocks. But since there's no accurate citation on it, that's just a guess. [[User:Coffee4binky|Coffee4binky]] ([[User talk:Coffee4binky|talk]]) 05:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC) |
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A Majority of the Wii Sales happend outside [[United States of America]], yet somehow there's a quote from [[Julian Eggebrecht]]. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.189.2.14|68.189.2.14]] ([[User talk:68.189.2.14#top|talk]]) 09:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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== New criticism == |
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== Discontinuation date evidence == |
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I've found some articles mentioning the Wii's game library being much weaker than the other consoles. I also remember a scathing critic of the originality of the Wii itself(the processing power, the wiimote itself, etc). Is it okay to add them? [[User:YVNP|YVNP]] ([[User talk:YVNP|talk]]) 00:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:No. Not every single bit of criticism needs to go in. You could find similar complaints about the PS3 and Xbox 360 too. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 00:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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is there any actual proof that wii (wii mini specifically) was discontinued in 2017??? and before anyone mentions news articles like the one about netflix, the claim that wii was discontinued predates the article (article: november 2018 | edit first listing 2017 discontinue date: january 2018). the only source provided is that wii was removed from nintendo's online store in march 2017, as seen in the wayback machine. but as i'm sure [[User:Ferret|ferret]] remembers from my attempts to find discontinuation dates for the various 3ds models last june, the date a system is removed from nintendo's website ''does not count'' as the discontinuation date, and is considered original research. something that backs up the march 2017 date being false is that starfyfan53's original source, the one that was originally used as evidence for the 2017 date, lists wii u still being available as late as early july 2018, despite it being well documented fall 2016 internationally, and january 2017 in japan, meaning that nintendo's offical store was continuing to sell preexisting stock, rather than the baseless claims i've seen of "did you know wii and nintendo switch were briefly being manufactured side by side???" |
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== Region-free? == |
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Just wondering, is the Wii region-free or is it region-locked? Because I've been staring at Oboro Muramasa for about an hour today at a retail store. Haven't decided on picking up the game yet exactly because of the region question. Any ideas? ([[User:Psychoneko|Psychoneko]] ([[User talk:Psychoneko|talk]]) 14:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)) |
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:Since I am in a good mood I won't chew you out for not reading the article (see [[Wii#Software library]]). The Wii is region-locked. You can get around that though if you have the Homebrew Channel (do a Google search if you don't know what that is). '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 14:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks! I think region-lockout should be included in the info-box, it'd make it easier for people who are in a rush (like I was). ([[User:Psychoneko|Psychoneko]] ([[User talk:Psychoneko|talk]]) 17:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)) |
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if actual, verifiable, non-original research proving once and for all that production of wii ended in in 2017 is found, great!!! but if not, we should put the 2017 claim to bed. [[User:SpinelFan64|SpinelFan64]] ([[User talk:SpinelFan64|talk]]) 02:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC) |
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==Ben Croshaw== |
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Should we mention [[Ben Croshaw]]'s opinion on the Wii? I mean, he's an astablished reviewer who has been mentioned alot on other pages. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]] ([[User talk:Strong Intelligent|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 20:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Never heard of him. In my opinion, no. I wouldn't mind hearing what others think though. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 21:01, 15 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::In his Internet series [[Zero Punctuation]], he recently mentioned in his MadWorld review that "Why does no-one listen to me when I say the Wii is crap?" [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]] ([[User talk:Strong Intelligent|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 08:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Considering how many things Yahtzee rails against (JRPGs, remakes, Halo and FPSs which copy it), it's hardly noteworthy that he says the Wii is crap. -- [[User:VederJuda|VederJuda]] ([[User talk:VederJuda|talk]]) 13:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:Selling backstock / preexisting stock doesn't mean the system is not discontinued. Discontinuation is generally seen as the end of manufacturing, regardless of stock levels or how long they linger in stocks before selling out. I have no other direct insight on the sourcing of discontinuation of the Mini. SiliconEra is seen as a reliable source currently, and simply flat states it was discontinued in 2017. Barring some source that contradicts that, it's good enough for us. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 12:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::yes, i was actually using the point that the selling of backstock is exactly why the 2017 discontinuation date might be false, because since we know nintendo was selling wii u backstock as late as july 2018, despite the system being discontinued in late 2016/early 2017 |
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The wii can't actually play dvd's ay? but there have been some homebrews that allow it. article is a little bit confusing. [[User:IAmTheCoinMan|IAmTheCoinMan]] ([[User talk:IAmTheCoinMan|talk]]) 17:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::and the siliconera article was published in november 2018, after the article for wii was edited to show the 2017 discontinuation date in january 2018, meaning it is very likely that a game of telephone happened where the siliconera article was using the wikipedia article as the source for the 2017 date, and now the wikipedia article is using it as a source, creating a looping cycle of misinformation [[User:SpinelFan64|SpinelFan64]] ([[User talk:SpinelFan64|talk]]) 23:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:It's not confusing, it very clearly states the DVD capabilities in the Hardware section. It mentions that the Wii doesn't have DVD-playback enabled but that hombrew software exists to enable that. Nowhere in the article does it say that the Wii is not cabable of playing DVDs, just that it's not enabled. '''<span style="border: 2px Maroon solid;background:#4682B4;font-family: Monotype Corsiva">[[User:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">TJ</font>]] [[User talk:TJ Spyke|<font color="Maroon">Spyke</font>]]</span>''' 17:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I'm sympathetic to citogenesis arguments. So right now what we know is the Mini came off the official store in 2017. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 23:47, 22 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::but wii u came off the official store in july 2018, yet we have verifiable sources saying it was discontinued fall 2016 in the west and january 2017, meaning the wii mini still being listed was probably just backstock. by this logic, if the wii mini was discontinued in 2017, than the wii u would've been discontinued in 2018. [[User:SpinelFan64|SpinelFan64]] ([[User talk:SpinelFan64|talk]]) 01:57, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::That's not what I asked. I'm not applying any logic here. I simply asked for just a straight confirmation that what we know is that the Mini came off the store in 2017. Not that it was discontinued. That it left the store in 2017. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 02:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::oh! on january 19, 2018, now-deleted user starfyfan53 stated that while they couldn't find an offical announcement, wii's section on the north american nintendo online store was removed, using a link from the wayback machine on march 23, 2017 as proof, saying that it was still on the store on a caption from the day before, meaning the system was likely discontinued |
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::::::en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wii&oldid=821320015 [[User:SpinelFan64|SpinelFan64]] ([[User talk:SpinelFan64|talk]]) 02:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::Ok so we don't have any clear sourcing at all, but a basic "SKYISBLUE" claim based on the webpage changing. That's close but I don't think it is quite good enough. We might need to at least add a note clarifying that it is "before 2017"? I'm not sure how to word it. NA was out of stock apparently in 2017. Manufacturing halt would have been before that. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 03:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::i'm not sure what to list either. the article for nintendo ds has the discontinuation date listed as a simple "yes" after years of debate on when that system was discontinued (all signs point to 2013 for ds, but i digress), which always bothered me, so it might not be the best fit. a vauge "mid 2010s" date ''might'' work, but it doesn't sound right either, so i'm at a bit of a loss. [[User:SpinelFan64|SpinelFan64]] ([[User talk:SpinelFan64|talk]]) 03:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]Citation 49, under the Launch section, throws an error when clicked on. I can't access the resource anymore. Any help? RteeeeKed💬📖 19:29, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- The archive link is bad but the original IGN link works. Likely needs to be re-archived. Masem (t) 19:43, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Masem: I don't think using IAB would fix that right? It would jsut see that htere's an archive link and move along. Or would I just have to remove the archive link and then run IAB? ― Blaze WolfTalkblaze__wolf 19:49, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Well, try removing it and then running IAB. Can't hurt, right? RteeeeKed💬📖 20:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I tried it, and it's telling me that I need the analyzepage permission. I think I have the User group, and that should make it work, but it's not, so I don't know what's happening. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have fixed it with a different archive link Masem (t) 21:06, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I tried it, and it's telling me that I need the analyzepage permission. I think I have the User group, and that should make it work, but it's not, so I don't know what's happening. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Well, try removing it and then running IAB. Can't hurt, right? RteeeeKed💬📖 20:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Masem: I don't think using IAB would fix that right? It would jsut see that htere's an archive link and move along. Or would I just have to remove the archive link and then run IAB? ― Blaze WolfTalkblaze__wolf 19:49, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Wrong description of RAM type, muddled wording.
[edit]In the following section under Console heading then Hardware, in the 2nd paragraph, reference is made to 1T-SRAM both to 24MBytes and 64MBytes, the latter is wrong, and should be 64MBytes of GDDR3 not 1T-SRAM. The 24Mbytes of 1T-SRAM is the right ammount and type though all the wording in that section is very sloppy and confusing. 184.151.230.61 (talk) 00:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Shibata and others
[edit]Why is there no mention or quotes from Nintendo of Europe, or Nintendo of Australia or Nintendo of Korea, CEO's, COO's or marketing directors in regards to the Wii and Wii u? There's already a staggering 4! quotes from Reggie Fils-Aimé across the Wii and Wii U articles, yet none from Satoru Shibata, Stephen Bole, Tom Enoki, Hiroyuki Fukuda, Matthias Hempfling, Et-cetera. 68.189.2.14 (talk) 09:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
A Majority of the Wii Sales happend outside United States of America, yet somehow there's a quote from Julian Eggebrecht. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.2.14 (talk) 09:52, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Discontinuation date evidence
[edit]is there any actual proof that wii (wii mini specifically) was discontinued in 2017??? and before anyone mentions news articles like the one about netflix, the claim that wii was discontinued predates the article (article: november 2018 | edit first listing 2017 discontinue date: january 2018). the only source provided is that wii was removed from nintendo's online store in march 2017, as seen in the wayback machine. but as i'm sure ferret remembers from my attempts to find discontinuation dates for the various 3ds models last june, the date a system is removed from nintendo's website does not count as the discontinuation date, and is considered original research. something that backs up the march 2017 date being false is that starfyfan53's original source, the one that was originally used as evidence for the 2017 date, lists wii u still being available as late as early july 2018, despite it being well documented fall 2016 internationally, and january 2017 in japan, meaning that nintendo's offical store was continuing to sell preexisting stock, rather than the baseless claims i've seen of "did you know wii and nintendo switch were briefly being manufactured side by side???"
if actual, verifiable, non-original research proving once and for all that production of wii ended in in 2017 is found, great!!! but if not, we should put the 2017 claim to bed. SpinelFan64 (talk) 02:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Selling backstock / preexisting stock doesn't mean the system is not discontinued. Discontinuation is generally seen as the end of manufacturing, regardless of stock levels or how long they linger in stocks before selling out. I have no other direct insight on the sourcing of discontinuation of the Mini. SiliconEra is seen as a reliable source currently, and simply flat states it was discontinued in 2017. Barring some source that contradicts that, it's good enough for us. -- ferret (talk) 12:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- yes, i was actually using the point that the selling of backstock is exactly why the 2017 discontinuation date might be false, because since we know nintendo was selling wii u backstock as late as july 2018, despite the system being discontinued in late 2016/early 2017
- and the siliconera article was published in november 2018, after the article for wii was edited to show the 2017 discontinuation date in january 2018, meaning it is very likely that a game of telephone happened where the siliconera article was using the wikipedia article as the source for the 2017 date, and now the wikipedia article is using it as a source, creating a looping cycle of misinformation SpinelFan64 (talk) 23:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sympathetic to citogenesis arguments. So right now what we know is the Mini came off the official store in 2017. -- ferret (talk) 23:47, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- but wii u came off the official store in july 2018, yet we have verifiable sources saying it was discontinued fall 2016 in the west and january 2017, meaning the wii mini still being listed was probably just backstock. by this logic, if the wii mini was discontinued in 2017, than the wii u would've been discontinued in 2018. SpinelFan64 (talk) 01:57, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's not what I asked. I'm not applying any logic here. I simply asked for just a straight confirmation that what we know is that the Mini came off the store in 2017. Not that it was discontinued. That it left the store in 2017. -- ferret (talk) 02:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- oh! on january 19, 2018, now-deleted user starfyfan53 stated that while they couldn't find an offical announcement, wii's section on the north american nintendo online store was removed, using a link from the wayback machine on march 23, 2017 as proof, saying that it was still on the store on a caption from the day before, meaning the system was likely discontinued
- en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wii&oldid=821320015 SpinelFan64 (talk) 02:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok so we don't have any clear sourcing at all, but a basic "SKYISBLUE" claim based on the webpage changing. That's close but I don't think it is quite good enough. We might need to at least add a note clarifying that it is "before 2017"? I'm not sure how to word it. NA was out of stock apparently in 2017. Manufacturing halt would have been before that. -- ferret (talk) 03:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- i'm not sure what to list either. the article for nintendo ds has the discontinuation date listed as a simple "yes" after years of debate on when that system was discontinued (all signs point to 2013 for ds, but i digress), which always bothered me, so it might not be the best fit. a vauge "mid 2010s" date might work, but it doesn't sound right either, so i'm at a bit of a loss. SpinelFan64 (talk) 03:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ok so we don't have any clear sourcing at all, but a basic "SKYISBLUE" claim based on the webpage changing. That's close but I don't think it is quite good enough. We might need to at least add a note clarifying that it is "before 2017"? I'm not sure how to word it. NA was out of stock apparently in 2017. Manufacturing halt would have been before that. -- ferret (talk) 03:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's not what I asked. I'm not applying any logic here. I simply asked for just a straight confirmation that what we know is that the Mini came off the store in 2017. Not that it was discontinued. That it left the store in 2017. -- ferret (talk) 02:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- but wii u came off the official store in july 2018, yet we have verifiable sources saying it was discontinued fall 2016 in the west and january 2017, meaning the wii mini still being listed was probably just backstock. by this logic, if the wii mini was discontinued in 2017, than the wii u would've been discontinued in 2018. SpinelFan64 (talk) 01:57, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sympathetic to citogenesis arguments. So right now what we know is the Mini came off the official store in 2017. -- ferret (talk) 23:47, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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