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== No mention regarding Neopets breach? == |
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I've increased the rating to B, not a rock-solid B but getting there. Here's some suggestions: |
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*Gameplay does not adequately convey the 'point' of the game, yes you can make a pet, care for it and enter it into fights, but what are players aiming to do? The section is tiny in comparison to the site content are (which contains some gameplay data). |
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*The history section is very good, but would preferably be named development and be situated after gameplay rather than before it. |
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*Reception is lacking reviews etc., it does carry good data in terms of user numbers, but needs some reaction to gameplay. |
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*The entire 'site content' section is confused, in a section like this I'd expect to read about things outside of the game itself, yet the 'neopets', 'environment' and 'economy' subsections contain gameplay data. At the start of it there is irrelevant details (''"The site includes a navigation bar along the top of the page.."''), it just doesn't fit together very well. I'd suggest merging relevant data to gameplay (under subheadings if they're needed) and merging 'site content''s intro, 'exclusive content' and 'community' into a single section. |
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*Images are a weak area in the article. The shot of the webpage isn't needed in the infobox since the logo does all that's needed in identifying the game. The room shot is.. well to say it's unspectacular is an understatement. Is that all players can expect to see, or can the pets be shown in the room along with more furniture? I'm non-plussed over the neoboard topic image - what are readers supposed to be gaining from this image? Boards have topics, it's a board and it has topics, an image is not needed to convey that, particularly not a whacking great fair use image. I'd suggest getting rid of the webpage one from the infobox and the boards one altogether, finding a better room image if possible and adding a few gameplay images instead. |
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*The lead's pretty good, but would need a few more details from reception regarding the actual gameplay (assuming you can find some). |
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*Watch out for really short paragraphs and merge them if at all possible. |
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*Try to position citations after punctuation marks rather than leaving them floating amongst the text. Keep sewing up any loose ends with additional cites. |
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You might want to consider going for a peer review or resubmitting it to assessments before going for a GA push. [[User:Someone another|Someone]][[User_talk:Someone another|another]] 20:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:"Gameplay does not adequately convey the 'point' of the game, yes you can make a pet, care for it and enter it into fights, but what are players aiming to do?" |
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We might have a problem about that. Fitting you should point that out first in the list of things this article is lacking. |
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With Tamagotchi, which is mentioned in comparison to Neopets in this article, the point is clear: Keep your pet well-fed and happy, and then do the same thing with their offspring. Repeat ad infinitum (sp?). Pokemon? Defeat leaders and find new Pokemon. |
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With Neopets, that's different. Some people just aim to chat and be well-known, some want to be rich, some want to win spotlights, etc. The question is, should we add all of that in, making a very long and rambling gameplay section, or just skip over it all? Or just add a few points? If so, which ones? |
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Until we've figured this issue out, maybe we could add bits about those using the hidden-comment tags or post them here or something. Thanks, [[User:Clem cowsie|Clem]] ([[User talk:Clem cowsie|talk]]) 04:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:: I'm thinking that the ORIGINAL aim was to earn enough neopoints to keep you and your pet happy, (express your ideas creatively, make your pet desirable, keep it happy). Besides the original aim, a ''couple'' of extra motives to "succeed" in neopets should be included, such as fame, riches (not necessarily for spending), and/or trophies. [[Special:Contributions/69.201.159.52|69.201.159.52]] ([[User talk:69.201.159.52|talk]]) 22:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== "Techo" redirects here == |
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Why is that? This word is not mentioned in the article. -- [[Special:Contributions/217.230.198.25|217.230.198.25]] ([[User talk:217.230.198.25|talk]]) 22:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Techo is a species of Neopet, which would be why it redirects here. <b><i><font color="#07517C">[[User:SuperHamster|Super]]</font></i><font color="#6FA23B">[[User:SuperHamster|Hamster]]</font> ([[User talk:SuperHamster|My Talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/SuperHamster|My Contributions]])</b> 02:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== Bashing in Lead == |
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I removed this from the lead: |
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While the site has been praised for being "gentle" and educational, several issues such as immersive advertising and gambling-based games have garnered criticism. Adverts that break the site's own rules are displayed as soon as a person registers. Before logging in, the default page is presented with two adverts, usually displaying lingerie or online poker, but these display seemingly harmless Neopets games. These have garnered major concern and crtiscism from parents who want their children to be "protected from filth, especially on Neopets". It seems unlikely that the adverts will be taken down, as the site owners receieve a massive amount of money for them. |
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::I don't think I need to explain way, it is pretty obvious. |
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:::Also, a little side note: I play everyday, and I never see lingerie or gambling ads. [[User:Derickl|Derickl]] ([[User talk:Derickl|talk]]) 00:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC) Derick |
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::::I see lingerie ads all the time. Neopets has no control over this because they have third party ad providers, so this bashing is REALLY unneccesary and whoever wrote it probaby sucks at the game or is a lowlife. Not to be super rude about it. [[Special:Contributions/69.201.159.52|69.201.159.52]] ([[User talk:69.201.159.52|talk]]) 22:44, 19 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protection? == |
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Out of curiosity, I checked the edit history page for the article and saw that most of the (frequent) vandalism was coming from people without accounts, and decided to propose semi-protection for the Neopets article against anonymous and new users. The vandalism is mostly easily fixed, but I don't see why we should just let ClueBot keep on reverting this page over and over again. I'm pretty sure semi-protection has been suggested before, but since I didn't see it on this talk page I wanted to post it. If it hasn't been suggested before, what's your opinion? If it has been, what was used to refute the protection? |
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Thanks, [[User:Clem cowsie|Clem]] ([[User talk:Clem cowsie|talk]]) 01:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC) |
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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ezpvw7/neopets-hack-another-day-another-hack-tens-of-millions-of-neopets-accounts |
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:The page has been semi-protected during heavy vandalism, however in general, articles are not kept under it. It should almost always only be a temporary measure done during the worse times. Right now, there is not enough recent disturbance to justify making a request. To learn more about this, see [[Wikipedia:Protection policy]]. -- [[User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>Collectonian</span>]] ([[User talk:Collectonian|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 02:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC) |
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https://www.reddit.com/r/neopets/comments/4rs8vd/neopets_data_breach_20mil_accounts/ |
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https://www.facebook.com/Neopets/posts/10153966777621005 |
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I couldn't find any mention on the article itself. Was it not notable enough to be added? [[User:CyanoTex|CyanoTex]] ([[User talk:CyanoTex|talk]]) 07:40, 26 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:Be [[WP:BOLD]] and add it in :) You might be the person that knows most about it! [[User:Deadstar|Deadstar]] ([[User talk:Deadstar|talk]]) 09:06, 26 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::Hi, I've added this to the article! I quoted Motherboard's 70 mil accounts as the amount breached but as far as I can tell it was actually 27 mil ( or at least that's the number on public leaks of the data)... [[User:Iridi|Iridi]] ([[User talk:Iridi|talk]]) 07:26, 16 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== No mention of Neopets and scientology == |
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Okay, thank you! [[User:Clem cowsie|Clem]] ([[User talk:Clem cowsie|talk]]) 22:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC) |
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It was reported by multiple sources, such as [https://nypost.com/2018/04/20/neopets-was-apparently-run-by-scientologists-because-nothing-is-sacred/ The New York Post] and [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/neopets-was-reportedly-run-by-scientologists-and-childhood-is-ruined_n_5ad77cbfe4b029ebe0206f8f The Huffington Post] that Doug Dohring, whose consortium bought Neopets in 2000, was a scientologist and ran the company using a scientologist principle known as "Org Board". |
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There is something that needs to be said regarding Neopets banning all kinds of accounts with disregard for their TOS. There are BBB and other advocacy watchgroups with large files on Neopets because of all the frozen accounts for no reason. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.29.123.250|65.29.123.250]] ([[User talk:65.29.123.250|talk]]) 05:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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To my surprise there is no mention of this in the article. Perhaps it should be added. —[[User:Turdas|'''turdas''']]<sup>[[User talk:Turdas|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Turdas|contribs]]</sup> 23:57, 22 March 2020 (UTC) |
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== Donna? == |
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== Help me out here == |
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From the little sidebar thing: |
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I'm making a section about the Metaverse NFT project, but it needs work. Can I get some help please? [[User:RteeeeKed|RteeeeKed]] ([[User talk:RteeeeKed|talk]]) 00:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC) |
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"Designer(s) Adam Powell" |
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== I'm having a problem getting the Neopet species 'Bori' onto the disambiguation page [[Bori]] == |
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From the lead: |
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Would somebody like to help? |
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"Neopets (originally NeoPets) is a virtual pet website launched by Adam Powell and Donna Williams." |
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One of our editors uses the word 'Bori' as part of his user name.<br> |
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Then shouldn't Donna be listed as one of the designers? She helped create the site as well. |
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''His'' 'Bori' is one of 55 species of [[Neopet]]s.<br> |
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Thanks, [[User:Clem cowsie|Clem]] ([[User talk:Clem cowsie|talk]]) 17:32, 25 April 2009 (UTC) |
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One problem is: 'Bori' are not mentioned in the article [[Neopet]].<br> |
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We have a disambiguation page [[Bori]], but ''these Neopets'' 'Bori' are not listed on this disambiguation page.<br> |
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If you read [[Talk:Bori]] you will understand. |
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[[User:Steue #Ping|Ping]] welcome, [[User:Steue|Steue]] ([[User talk:Steue|talk]]) 14:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:She helped create it, but per the reliable sources Adam designed it. -- [[User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342FF'>Collectonian</span>]] ([[User talk:Collectonian|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 05:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::If she helped create it she is a designer. Doesn't matter who the resources were. She co-designed it. The "reliable sources", Adam, and Donna should all receive credit. [[Special:Contributions/69.201.159.52|69.201.159.52]] ([[User talk:69.201.159.52|talk]]) 22:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC) |
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No mention regarding Neopets breach?
[edit]https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ezpvw7/neopets-hack-another-day-another-hack-tens-of-millions-of-neopets-accounts https://www.reddit.com/r/neopets/comments/4rs8vd/neopets_data_breach_20mil_accounts/ https://www.facebook.com/Neopets/posts/10153966777621005
I couldn't find any mention on the article itself. Was it not notable enough to be added? CyanoTex (talk) 07:40, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Be WP:BOLD and add it in :) You might be the person that knows most about it! Deadstar (talk) 09:06, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I've added this to the article! I quoted Motherboard's 70 mil accounts as the amount breached but as far as I can tell it was actually 27 mil ( or at least that's the number on public leaks of the data)... Iridi (talk) 07:26, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
No mention of Neopets and scientology
[edit]It was reported by multiple sources, such as The New York Post and The Huffington Post that Doug Dohring, whose consortium bought Neopets in 2000, was a scientologist and ran the company using a scientologist principle known as "Org Board".
To my surprise there is no mention of this in the article. Perhaps it should be added. —turdastalk - contribs 23:57, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Help me out here
[edit]I'm making a section about the Metaverse NFT project, but it needs work. Can I get some help please? RteeeeKed (talk) 00:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Would somebody like to help?
One of our editors uses the word 'Bori' as part of his user name.
His 'Bori' is one of 55 species of Neopets.
One problem is: 'Bori' are not mentioned in the article Neopet.
We have a disambiguation page Bori, but these Neopets 'Bori' are not listed on this disambiguation page.
If you read Talk:Bori you will understand.
Ping welcome, Steue (talk) 14:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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