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They aren't any kind of fucking legend anywhere. If you enjoy their music, stay the hell away from me. Fucking serious |
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Why has it been deleted? Why does no one discuss it here first? |
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the reason states that they were "non-notable"? how are they non-notable? everyone knows about them around here, they are a legend |
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:They are notable enough. They've met Wikipedia's requirements. It's probably just some sad disgruntled metal fan/fans that believe The Devil Wears Prada isn't a Christian band. Guess the quotes in the page are the reason for this. I wouldn't worry too much about it. [[User:IronCrow|IronCrow]] 07:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Are you an idiot? I am fully aware that they're a Christian band, I fail to see how this affects their "legend" status. Any fuckhead could see the word is used far too lightly! |
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Not a legend. I could care less if they're Christian, mostly because it is the biggest sham in the history of civilization. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.153.224.18|75.153.224.18]] ([[User talk:75.153.224.18|talk]]) 04:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==DRV and restoration== |
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[[Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_May_15|Consensus at the DRV]] was that an assertion of notability could probably be made. Per the DRV nominator's suggestion, I've restored the previous version from May 3 as a starting point; those who work on the article, please make sure to include an assertion of the band's notability. [[User:Krimpet|Krimpet]] ([[User talk:Krimpet|talk]]) 00:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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*Also, per the deletion review, please add additional [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] corroborating the band's notability. At the moment, the only sources are Purevolume, Myspace, and other primary/non-independent sources. Secondary sources, such as media mentions, would make the article much stronger. --<font face="Book Antiqua">[[User:Kinu|<font color="blue"><strong>Kinu</strong></font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Kinu|<font color="red">''t''</font>]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Kinu|<font color="red">''c''</font>]]</sub></font> 06:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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they are a sweet band <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.8.162.146|64.8.162.146]] ([[User talk:64.8.162.146|talk]]) 16:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over== |
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Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over is not a real music video, thats advertisement for their cd, |
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it needs to be deleted. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Underoathfan90|Underoathfan90]] ([[User talk:Underoathfan90|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Underoathfan90|contribs]]) 05:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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it was a music video wasn't it? because they have a video to the music they have made? not meaning to be rude, but doesnt that make it a music video? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jefasiah|Jefasiah]] ([[User talk:Jefasiah|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jefasiah|contribs]]) 04:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Quotes have been sabotaged. == |
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yeah, just read them. they've been sabotaged. I read them before, that's not what they said. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Acid 1|Acid 1]] ([[User talk:Acid 1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Acid 1|contribs]]) 06:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== The quotes have been sabotaged. EDIT == |
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== Previously == |
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Thank goodness for reverting and copies of old edits. Changed back to normal. 'MuthaChuck' would be the culprit. |
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The lede should reflect the entirety of their output, not who they are today. A section could be added to discuss their style, and include their recent social media post, but their career needs to be reflected in the lede. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 16:41, 27 May 2021 (UTC) |
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== Unnesecary additions == |
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:The band says they are no longer doing Christian music. If the lead sentence phrased in the present tense, which it certainly should be, then it should state their present genre, though certainly past genres can be mentioned.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 16:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC) |
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"PEOPLE NEED TO LEARDN NOT TO ADD THINGS ! THAT MAKESME MADDDD SERIOUSLY LET THE WEBSITE MAKERS PICK WHATS ON THIS." was added to the albums section... BLAH THIS BAND IS AWESOME! This thing dissapoints me, and it has been removed <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.76.229.7|74.76.229.7]] ([[User talk:74.76.229.7|talk]]) 14:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::: I think that's a perfect solution. |
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::: Your last edit, was good, but a section in the article is preferable. The lede and infobox should summarize the article, not introduce new material. |
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:::: '''The Devil Wears Prada''' is an American metalcore band from Dayton, Ohio, formed in 2005 that came to prominence as a Christian metal act. |
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::: We would then need to create a section in the article using early reviews and content like https://www.allmusic.com/album/transit-blues-mw0002965528 that makes it clear they have toned down their Christian message and then transition to their social media post. Simply updating the lede and infobox is too little. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 06:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC) |
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::::I've added a brief section that can be expanded if necessary, and re-implemented the language you thought was good.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 16:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC) |
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::::: Not ideal, but it works well enough. Thanks for the extra effort. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 18:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2021 == |
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== Genre == |
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{{edit semi-protected|The Devil Wears Prada (band)|answered=yes}} |
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Please do not list "Alternative CCM" as a genre. It is not a genre related to the band, as it does not encompass hardcore/metalcore bands. Please refer to the [[Alternative CCM]] article for further reference. It's basically the same as listing "Christian rock" on every Christian rock band's page, when their styles could be "Pop Punk" or "Deathcore." [[User:IronCrow|IronCrow]] ([[User talk:IronCrow|talk]]) 01:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Change “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as two EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.” |
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:Also to note: I don't think anyone minds Hardcore as another genre, except that it is kind of broad. [[User:IronCrow|IronCrow]] ([[User talk:IronCrow|talk]]) 16:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Well, TDWP is certainly not deathcore like JFAC. That's why I keep changing it to hardcore. Check the sources, Mike Hranica cites This is Hell as a big inspiration. Clearly this influence would carry over into a more hardcore sounding album as opposed to JFAC. JFAC (being deathcore) cites bands like Cattle Decapitation and Decapitated as influences. TDWP does not cite them as influences; therefore, TDWP is more hardcore than deathcore. |
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Please change it to: “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as three EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.” |
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I'll just remove the unsourced genres altogether.[[User:Inhumer|Inhumer]] ([[User talk:Inhumer|talk]]) 19:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Purpose for request is: the band The Devil Wears Prada has released THREE EP’s. “Zombie EP”, “Space EP”, and most recently “ZII” (as of May 21, 2021). [[Special:Contributions/65.191.146.62|65.191.146.62]] ([[User talk:65.191.146.62|talk]]) 21:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 21:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2021 (2) == |
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::I stated deathcore because there are obvious Deathcore influences in the band's instrumental work. Vocals are a completely different story. Regardless of what the band cites as an influence, it doesn't mean the band will sound like it. For instance, Demon Hunter cites Pantera, theya ren't very much alike. [[User:IronCrow|IronCrow]] ([[User talk:IronCrow|talk]]) 05:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC) |
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I'd just like to add, for the records. I had listend to JFAC (new album) and then, later found TDWP. I must say I was shocked at how much they sounded alike. All I'm trying to say is, as IronCrow has stated, is no matter what a band states they are as a genre, it may not be right on what they say. [[User:Acid 1|Acid 1]] ([[User talk:Acid 1|talk]]) 07:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Change “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as two EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.” |
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Please change it to: “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as three EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.” |
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::Yeah, TDWP's "Dear Love" album is what reminded me of Job For a Cowboy, though the newest album doesn't. [[User:IronCrow|IronCrow]] ([[User talk:IronCrow|talk]]) 23:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Purpose for request is: the band The Devil Wears Prada has released THREE EP’s. “Zombie EP”, “Space EP”, and most recently “ZII” (as of May 21, 2021). |
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I think deathcore should be listed as a genre as TDWP sounds very similar to At The Throne of Judgment, who is listed as deathcore. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.199.23.231|72.199.23.231]] ([[User talk:72.199.23.231|talk]]) 21:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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SOURCES: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kogwahtqQos7UER8awAkYGJxkUgvXfkZw&feature=share |
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I believe so as well, but I won't put it up because it keeps getting reverted. [[User:IronCrow|IronCrow]] ([[User talk:IronCrow|talk]]) 02:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC) |
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WHO THE HELL KEEPS PUTTING SCREAMO??????????? THEY ARE IN NO WAY SCREAMO> <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.199.23.231|72.199.23.231]] ([[User talk:72.199.23.231|talk]]) 01:41, 2 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZII_(EP) |
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:: Whoever put death metal, hmmmm, nope!!! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.185.176.245|68.185.176.245]] ([[User talk:68.185.176.245|talk]]) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Who in the hell put Jungle with a link that goes to geographical Jungle??? 20:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Yet Inue|Yet Inue]] ([[User talk:Yet Inue|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yet Inue|contribs]]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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https://loudwire.com/the-devil-wears-prada-zii-ep/ [[Special:Contributions/65.191.146.62|65.191.146.62]] ([[User talk:65.191.146.62|talk]]) 22:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC) |
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::Someone stuck up Metalcore as the genre and decided to be a one man consensus... You guys settle that.<span style="color:red;background:black;border-style: single">¤[[User:IronCrow|IrønCrøw]]¤</span> <small>([[User talk:IronCrow|Speak to Me]])</small> 04:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}}. [[User:Heartmusic678|Heartmusic678]] ([[User talk:Heartmusic678|talk]]) 12:24, 9 December 2021 (UTC) |
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== Clarifying Graph == |
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::I moved the ref to the intro. <span style="color:red;background:black;border-style: single">¤[[User:IronCrow|IrønCrøw]]¤</span> <small>([[User talk:IronCrow|Speak to Me]])</small> 20:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC) |
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=== Members === |
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I think they are more hardcore than they are "post-hardcore". Even their official Myspace says "hardcore". |
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==== Timeline ==== |
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[[User:NewYorkStyledCheesecakes|NewYorkStyledCheesecakes]] ([[User talk:NewYorkStyledCheesecakes|talk]]) 06:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC) |
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The graph is lovely but what does the thinner portion of graph mean??? I have come to believe it means the period they are session musician. |
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ok who's idea to put Emo on there Gerne and post-Hardcore. There sound sounds to much like Metlacore with a littele dethcore mixed with it cause some breakdowns sounds like something from Bring Me the Horizon and suicide silence ([[User:Haloblade345|Haloblade345]] ([[User talk:Haloblade345|talk]]) 03:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)) |
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If so, Mason is said to be session musician in 2018 but this is missing from the graph. |
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And the black vertical lines -- studio album/EP releases? |
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I'm not sure if this is where I'm supposed to post this but it says on the page to discuss it here. Why can't Christian be used instead of American? Everywhere I see they're listed as Christian Metalcore. They're lyrics are religious most of the time and they talk about God when they perform. (Look at the lyrics for Rosemary Had An Accident if you don't believe me.) I'm just wondering so don't flip out on me. XD ([[User:Tham22|Tham22]] ([[User talk:Tham22|talk]]) 16:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)) |
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[[User:Camper4060|Camper4060]] ([[User talk:Camper4060|talk]]) 23:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)Camper4060 |
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The reason this whole genre issue is such a problem across wikipedia is not that it's actually difficult issue: but rather people approach it the wrong way. They start talking about their own opinion and arguing about that. As with everything here, it's actually very simple: we go by the sources. I'll go have a quick look at the ones I know of, and come back here with what they say. Then we include that, regardless of anyone's personal opinion. [[User:Prophaniti|Prophaniti]] ([[User talk:Prophaniti|talk]]) 09:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2022 == |
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:Right, having looked, not much came up: almost all my usual sources didn't have any info on the band at all, so for the most part they seem too obscure. In the end, I was forced to turn to allmusic. An atrocious source, but with nothing else available there's little choice. It listed "Heavy metal" and "Alternative CCM" as their genres, and also said they are a "Christian metalcore act". |
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:So, the lead should really go with this, and say "Christian metalcore". As for the infobox, that's a bit more tricky. We should have "metalcore", but as well as this there's also argument for "alternative ccm", "heavy metal" and "christian metal". Personally? I'd go with "metalcore" and "christian metal", as this seems to perfectly cover heavy metal and alternative ccm anyway. Metal + Christian = Christian metal, and the allmusic page itself says they're metalcore. If folks disagree with this, here's the place to discuss it. [[User:Prophaniti|Prophaniti]] ([[User talk:Prophaniti|talk]]) 09:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC) |
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I completely agree. ([[Special:Contributions/98.111.53.182|98.111.53.182]] ([[User talk:98.111.53.182|talk]]) 02:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)) |
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Correct the grammar of this sentence: "Some sources described the band, and their works, were in their early years described as metalcore" |
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:Although not initially involved in this discussion, it seems logical that Christian Metalcore is an acceptable descriptor, just like Christian Pop, Christian Rap, etc. It seems since no one has voiced an reason for removing the Christian descriptor, it ought to stay. [[User:Nicktfx|Nicktfx]] ([[User talk:Nicktfx|talk]]) 21:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::http://www.punkbands.com/interviews/280/ The guys from devil wears prada in an interview. Their shrugoff christianity attitude does not give them claim to a Christian genre. ''Matthew 7:15-20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. KJV'' [[User:Kyle van der Meer|Kyle van der Meer]] ([[User talk:Kyle van der Meer|talk]]) 16:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC) |
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"Described" is used twice. "Were" should also be removed. [[User:Nikolas Esquilin|Nikolas Esquilin]] ([[User talk:Nikolas Esquilin|talk]]) 15:20, 4 September 2022 (UTC) |
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Kyle, that verse is very true, and i actually am getting Matthew 7:18 tattooed on my arm because it has meant so much in my life. But you have to be aware that in using that verse you are not judging the members of the band. Do you know them personally? does it matter how they act? From what i have seen and heard of the band members of TDWP, they are devoted christians that love god and want to do his works, they have fun whilst doing this, and god wants us to serve him, and if we enjoy that, then isnt that the ultimate goal. so i cant see that being a bad thing. Also i strongly protest against the bible being used to bring people down, would you like it if your christianity was contested by a complete random person? if you were friends with the band you might have the influence to encourage them to change there ways (if they were doing the wrong things) but when your a stranger i believe that your words can tear down peoples motivation. The bible is not a weapon. It is more important to encourage people to walk on the straight path, this inturn will motivate them to continue to follow god whole heartedly. |
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== Suggestion of new image == |
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The current image is very old and only 2 of the band members are still in the band, I suggest updating the image to something more recent that reflects the current lineup. https://i0.wp.com/wallofsoundau.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/The-Devil-Wears-Prada-e1632391115749.jpg?fit=2048%2C942&ssl=1 [[Special:Contributions/2001:1970:52E6:AE00:0:0:0:B67A|2001:1970:52E6:AE00:0:0:0:B67A]] ([[User talk:2001:1970:52E6:AE00:0:0:0:B67A|talk]]) 20:40, 12 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== "Previously a Christian metalcore band" == |
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Could someone do a more recent live photo please, i am new to this, and it would be even greater if someone could teach me <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jefasiah|Jefasiah]] ([[User talk:Jefasiah|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jefasiah|contribs]]) 02:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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This phrase occurs very early in the [[WP:LEAD]]. It's needs adjustment, as it's hard to understand what the previously is referring to. Are they no longer Christian? No longer metalcore? No longer a band? |
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==Members== |
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Normally I would fix this sort of poor wording myself, but I'm not familiar with this band and was just passing by after I heard one of their songs. I added a clarification needed tag, but was reverted with given any clarification, so I brought it here. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 16:27, 22 January 2023 (UTC) |
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On their MySpace page, TDWP states they are writing and recording a new album. There are pictures of vocalist Mike Hranica recording with a guitar, so I shall edit the members section to state that Hranica contributes guitar to the group. [[User:Sparkplugz|Sparkplugz]] ([[User talk:Sparkplugz|talk]]) 04:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:When you leave a tag, you are supposed to leave a talk page note. An edit summary isn't sufficient because it can be hard to find. [[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 16:34, 22 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== deathcore == |
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::I've rephrased. They used to be deemed Christian metalcore but aren't anymore. [[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 16:35, 22 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Great, thanks. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 16:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2024 == |
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like i mean for real, does anyone thin that they are a deathcore band because they always end up confusing me when it comes to their genre. I mean they are obviously metalcore or deathcore. Just trying to figure out which genre they have more in common with <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.226.79.244|98.226.79.244]] ([[User talk:98.226.79.244|talk]]) 06:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Change the main photo to a more recent photo. The current one features more ex-band members than current band members and is very out of date. [[User:Unfix4ble2.0|Unfix4ble2.0]] ([[User talk:Unfix4ble2.0|talk]]) 15:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:This is the best image we have on Commons right now. Do you have any specific suggestions? [[User:Liu1126|Liu1126]] ([[User talk:Liu1126|talk]]) 20:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC) |
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I prefer the one of mike so much better, its more recent, so can we get a better all band photo, or put the one with just mike back up <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ICheets|ICheets]] ([[User talk:ICheets|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ICheets|contribs]]) 00:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[edit]The lede should reflect the entirety of their output, not who they are today. A section could be added to discuss their style, and include their recent social media post, but their career needs to be reflected in the lede. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:41, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- The band says they are no longer doing Christian music. If the lead sentence phrased in the present tense, which it certainly should be, then it should state their present genre, though certainly past genres can be mentioned.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think that's a perfect solution.
- Your last edit, was good, but a section in the article is preferable. The lede and infobox should summarize the article, not introduce new material.
- The Devil Wears Prada is an American metalcore band from Dayton, Ohio, formed in 2005 that came to prominence as a Christian metal act.
- We would then need to create a section in the article using early reviews and content like https://www.allmusic.com/album/transit-blues-mw0002965528 that makes it clear they have toned down their Christian message and then transition to their social media post. Simply updating the lede and infobox is too little. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've added a brief section that can be expanded if necessary, and re-implemented the language you thought was good.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Not ideal, but it works well enough. Thanks for the extra effort. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've added a brief section that can be expanded if necessary, and re-implemented the language you thought was good.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2021
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Change “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as two EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.”
Please change it to: “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as three EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.”
Purpose for request is: the band The Devil Wears Prada has released THREE EP’s. “Zombie EP”, “Space EP”, and most recently “ZII” (as of May 21, 2021). 65.191.146.62 (talk) 21:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2021 (2)
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Change “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as two EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.”
Please change it to: “To date, the group has released seven full-length albums: Dear Love: A Beautiful Discord (2006), Plagues (2007), With Roots Above and Branches Below (2009), Dead Throne (2011), 8:18 (2013) Transit Blues (2016), and The Act (2019) as well as three EPs, one DVD, sixteen singles, and thirteen music videos.”
Purpose for request is: the band The Devil Wears Prada has released THREE EP’s. “Zombie EP”, “Space EP”, and most recently “ZII” (as of May 21, 2021).
SOURCES: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kogwahtqQos7UER8awAkYGJxkUgvXfkZw&feature=share
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZII_(EP)
https://loudwire.com/the-devil-wears-prada-zii-ep/ 65.191.146.62 (talk) 22:07, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Clarifying Graph
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[edit]The graph is lovely but what does the thinner portion of graph mean??? I have come to believe it means the period they are session musician. If so, Mason is said to be session musician in 2018 but this is missing from the graph.
And the black vertical lines -- studio album/EP releases?
Camper4060 (talk) 23:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)Camper4060
Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2022
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Correct the grammar of this sentence: "Some sources described the band, and their works, were in their early years described as metalcore"
"Described" is used twice. "Were" should also be removed. Nikolas Esquilin (talk) 15:20, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Done Thanks! Of the universe (talk) 17:46, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Suggestion of new image
[edit]The current image is very old and only 2 of the band members are still in the band, I suggest updating the image to something more recent that reflects the current lineup. https://i0.wp.com/wallofsoundau.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/The-Devil-Wears-Prada-e1632391115749.jpg?fit=2048%2C942&ssl=1 2001:1970:52E6:AE00:0:0:0:B67A (talk) 20:40, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
"Previously a Christian metalcore band"
[edit]This phrase occurs very early in the WP:LEAD. It's needs adjustment, as it's hard to understand what the previously is referring to. Are they no longer Christian? No longer metalcore? No longer a band?
Normally I would fix this sort of poor wording myself, but I'm not familiar with this band and was just passing by after I heard one of their songs. I added a clarification needed tag, but was reverted with given any clarification, so I brought it here. Sergecross73 msg me 16:27, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- When you leave a tag, you are supposed to leave a talk page note. An edit summary isn't sufficient because it can be hard to find. Wehwalt (talk) 16:34, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- I've rephrased. They used to be deemed Christian metalcore but aren't anymore. Wehwalt (talk) 16:35, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- Great, thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 16:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- I've rephrased. They used to be deemed Christian metalcore but aren't anymore. Wehwalt (talk) 16:35, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2024
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Change the main photo to a more recent photo. The current one features more ex-band members than current band members and is very out of date. Unfix4ble2.0 (talk) 15:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is the best image we have on Commons right now. Do you have any specific suggestions? Liu1126 (talk) 20:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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