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I know this debate at UC Berkeley comes at an unfortunate time during consensus formation at WP:BOOSTER and diluting editor attention to two related but important topics, but perhaps we can move it to [[WT:UNIGUIDE]] ? [[User:Madcoverboy|Madcoverboy]] ([[User talk:Madcoverboy|talk]]) 02:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Move what? The UC-Berkeley discussion? I think it belongs in the article's Talk page as it's specific to that institution. I don't feel very strongly about the discussion remaining there, though, as long as it proceeds amicably and doesn't continue to slide into unnecessary hostility. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 02:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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: Re: your comment "I think that we have swung too far in the direction of sanitizing articles when we can't [note] that some institutions like UC-Berkeley or Harvard are widely considered to be among the very best in the world." It's a classic slippery slope problem that we see all the time with rankings; "well UC San Diego has a non-trivial number of Nobel Laureates, is ranked almost as highly, so I think it's also an "internationally leading university"" and then before you know it South Dakota State University (apologies to SDSU alums, it's just my favorite whipping horse) is an internationally recognized university. I'd rather err on the side of caution than trying to negotiate problematic concepts of international recognition and prestige. [[User:Madcoverboy|Madcoverboy]] ([[User talk:Madcoverboy|talk]]) 02:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::If editors of the SDSU article can muster the right kinds and number of references then they should include such a statement. We've gone too far when we're not allowing editors to note that UC-Berkeley is one of the world's top research universities. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 02:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== John Jay Article == |
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I admit it's gotten out of hand, but KP Botany's provocations are now completely out of hand even after I extricate myself from discussion: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMadcoverboy&diff=261819055&oldid=261800547] You know my contributions well enough that I'm not one to back down, but this cat needs to cool off too. [[User:Madcoverboy|Madcoverboy]] ([[User talk:Madcoverboy|talk]]) 03:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Hey, I don't know how to leave a signature so sorry about that but saw [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=John_Jay_College_of_Criminal_Justice&diff=1053633511&oldid=1053630495 your edit]. Those were college majors (have provided a link to the correct source), I don't know if it's against WP policy to list the majors the college offers (if it does, please feel free to let me know or undo it and I apologize) but wanted to give you the heads up. Anyway, it is dedicated to Criminal Justice, hence the college's name (John Jay College '''of Criminal Justice'''). Thanks. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:108.41.108.33|108.41.108.33]] ([[User talk:108.41.108.33#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/108.41.108.33|contribs]]) 22:16, November 4, 2021 (UTC)</span> |
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:If you're going to [[WP:forum shop]] for places to discuss me, then you haven't backed out or cooled down. |
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== Ohio University Russ College + ARC Building == |
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:This post of mine[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMadcoverboy&diff=261819055&oldid=261800547] was a comment that you graciously struck out your hostile comment on the article talk page and I returned the consideration by striking out the comment I had made on your talk page. I was so impressed by your striking out your poorly thought comment, that I realized I should follow your lead. Wow! Was I ever mistaken. |
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Would you kindly merge the articles please? Haven't had time to discover how; appreciate your help! [[User:Sapienna|Sapienna]] ([[User talk:Sapienna|talk]]) 20:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Ursuline College == |
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:If you're done with me, you're done with me in all forums. Otherwise, make it one more forum: AN/I. --[[User:KP Botany|KP Botany]] ([[User talk:KP Botany|talk]]) 03:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Hi @[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]]! I was wondering if it would be possible to restore the additions recently made to the Ursuline College page regarding their ranking by U.S. News and World Report. Other Ohio universities' pages use extremely similar wording, like under the Academics and Rankings section of [[Bowling Green State University]]. Let me know your thoughts, and thanks so much for your help! I am new to editing articles so still learning the ropes! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tay.sauer|Tay.sauer]] ([[User talk:Tay.sauer#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tay.sauer|contribs]]) 10:25, December 16, 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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::Damn it, that's enough! Both of you, stop talking to one another if you can't both be civil. This is too petty and stupid to continue to piss off one another and eventually end up blocked. Take a deep breath, go outside, or go to sleep and come back later with a cooler head. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 06:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I have no objection to including relevant, up-to-date rankings in the article. But they should be described in neutral language and with accuracy, including the year of the ranking. |
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:And I strongly recommend that you restrict most or all of your editing about Ursuline to the article's Talk page given your employment and your specific role at the college. [[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 15:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:Will do, thank you so much for letting me know! [[Tay.sauer]] [[User:Tay.sauer|Tay.sauer]] ([[User talk:Tay.sauer|talk]]) 15:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Ivy plus == |
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== USNA DGA == |
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Ivy plus did get deleted before: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivy plus]]. I doubt that there has been any sudden increase in reliable references out there, and I'm tempted to nominate it for deletion again. Your thoughts? [[User:Cornellrockey|cOrneLlrOckEy]] ([[User talk:Cornellrockey|talk]]) 12:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Not sure what you have against USNA distinguished graduates. "Unnecessary detail" isn't a reason for deletion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_removal#Reasons_for_content_removal <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tomhubbard|Tomhubbard]] ([[User talk:Tomhubbard#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tomhubbard|contribs]]) 00:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:You may find it helpful to review our [[WP:NOT|general policy on what Wikipedia is not]] and our specific guidance on [[WP:UNIGUIDE|what we typically include in articles about colleges and universities]]. In general, we try to aim for articles that cover the most important information about an institution without delving into a lot of detail about any particular aspect unless that detail is critical e.g., precise size of endowment, year of founding, number of students enrolled. A detailed listing of alumni who receive a particular award from the institution doesn't seem to be the kind of critical information we should include in an encyclopedia article. |
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:You're welcome to open a discussion in the article's Talk page to see if other editors have different opinions! [[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 02:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== ''The Signpost'': 24 December 2024 == |
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==Flagged Revs == |
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<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-12-24}} </div><!--Volume 20, Issue 18--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-12-24|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 00:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script ([[User:JPxG/SPS]]) --></div></div> |
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Hi, |
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I noticed you voted oppose in the flag revs straw pole and would like to ask if you would mind adding [[User:Promethean/No]] to your user or talk page to make your position clear to people who visit your page :) - Thanks to Neurolysis for the template [[User:Promethean|<b><span style="color:#FF0000;background:white"> «<span style="color:#736F6E">l<span style="color:#736F6E">|<span style="color:#151B54"> Ψrometheăn ™</span>|</span>l</span>» </span></b>]] [[User_talk:Promethean| (talk)]] 07:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:No thank you. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 11:49, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Civility== |
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ElKevbo, this statement is borderline uncivil, and dismissive of the opinions of other editors.[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Danah_Boyd&diff=263039219&oldid=263038235] Please reconsider your attitude here? It seems that you're trying to ram through a change over objections, and your actions are becoming more and more disruptive: Uncivil comments, edit-warring at a guideline page, deleting citations and then edit-warring over them... May I suggest that you take a step back, and consider how your actions are being perceived? Wikipedia is a large collaborative project, and it's important that we treat each other with respect. When there are disputes, we should follow the steps in [[WP:DR|Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]], and try especially hard to be respectful of the opinions of others. --[[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 20:42, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:No. I feel the same about some of your edits and I'm confident that right now we're both being aggressive but relatively civil. I assure you that you'll know when I'm mad at you and being an asshole. :) --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 20:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:: Please do not edit war to remove citations. You may wish to change the information ''from'' those citations, but the citations themselves should be left alone. If you disagree that a source is reliable, you can bring it up at [[WP:RSN]], but I think you're going to have an uphill battle to argue that ''[[The Oregonian]]'' is a bad source. --[[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 20:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Please read the article's Talk page. And please remember that it takes two to edit war. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 20:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::: This comment and edit summary were uncivil.[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(capital_letters)&diff=prev&oldid=263128880] Please try to use a more professional tone in the future, thanks. --[[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 06:24, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Examine your own actions and words. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 06:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::: Okay, do you like the sound of this better? "Damnit ElKevbo how many times are you going to assume bad faith without any shred of evidence? Get it together and cease your baseless suspicion and accusations." Because those are your words, not mine. I personally wouldn't speak to you that way, because I find it uncivil. But if you think it's okay, I can try to adapt. :) --[[User:Elonka|El]][[User talk:Elonka|on]][[Special:Contributions/Elonka|ka]] 06:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::Aggressiveness and harsh language don't bother me a whit; I'm a big boy. But I find your your continued accusations and complete failure to assume good faith unbecoming an editor much less an administrator. You're welcome to your opinion and if you harbor baseless suspicions then I can't change that but I can and do object to you repeatedly airing them in this venue. Sadly, your silly accusations have done nothing whatsoever to help any of this discussion and have only inflamed the issue and its discussants. |
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:::::::Hold your ground on the issue of changing the article's title and continue to contest the MOS change as is your right. But cut out the bizarre conspiracy accusations unless you're willing to bring it to ArbCom, ANI, or an RFCU; I'm tired of it. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 06:40, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Talk Reply== |
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Hi ElKevbo, |
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I completely understand the need to stop frivolous link spamming, and adding external links that are irrelevant to the article it is being added too. I do not understand, however, why a link to a Continuing Education Center is considered irrelevant to the article concerning Continuing Education. Is it because it is a specific program? |
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I'm not trying to attack you, I just don't understand. |
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Thank you |
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[[User:Reggieknopoff|Reggieknopoff]] ([[User talk:Reggieknopoff|talk]]) 22:13, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Yes, it is because the link is to a specific center. We have very high standards for what to include in encyclopedia articles, including the External links we choose to include. Please remember that External links are not included merely to point readers to examples or to create a directory of links for a particular topic. If there are some extraordinary reasons why we should include that particular link to that particular center, please let me know as I have missed it! Otherwise, it may be worthwhile to post a message in the Talk page of the article so we can see what others think about this. |
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:It may also be helpful to carefully review our policies related to [[WP:EL|external links]] and [[WP:NOT|what Wikipedia is not]]. And please let me know if you have further questions! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 01:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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ElKevbo |
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I have to agree with [[User:Reggieknopoff|Reggieknopoff]], If you bothered to follow the link, you'd see that the link posted is a legitimate, educational website with content and interviews belonging to and controlled by the experts — including Jimmy Wales, WikiPedia's founder. I'd politely ask you to reinstate the links. [[User:Thoughtcrawler|Thoughtcrawler]] |
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Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thoughtcrawler|Thoughtcrawler]] ([[User talk:Thoughtcrawler|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thoughtcrawler|contribs]]) 19:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Please carefully review our policies related to [[WP:EL|external links]] and [[WP:NOT|what Wikipedia is not]]. And please discuss this link in the relevant article Talk pages. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 19:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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ELKEVBO, |
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Not every single sentence needs to supported with a reference. It is common fact that roughly 10% of the incoming class, for Bachelor degrees, at all Ivy League Universities are legacies. Whether a school utilizes legacy admission or not is consistently not referred to in the wikipedia articles under 'Admission' -- rather, only facts that praises the institution as competitive, etc, is generally included. I have a feeling that if support this with one of the four hundred references to legacy admission, you will delete it, as it does not serve to promote the glory of the institution. Sad. I'm an ivy league student myself, despite this I wish the truth to get out. Only in this way can public debate start and changes take place. |
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==NPOV== |
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I don't know how to send a message on here so I'll just put it on your talk page: everything I said in my edit to the Temple University article was 100% sourced. When I said there were a certain number of shootings, I sourced it. When I said there was no escort service, despite other area schools having one, I sourced each stated school. Everything I said was sourced, and I'm sorry if it doesn't sound very nice, but it's neutral. If I tried to paint some sunny picture, then I'd be outright lying. Kind of like the other articles on Temple buildings that sound like a brochure. |
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[[User:FCGE1|FCGE1]] ([[User talk:FCGE1|talk]]) 05:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:You can't engage in [[WP:OR|original research]] here. Writing that the institution doesn't have an escort service but institutions x, y, and z have them while citing primary sources for each of those institutions is original research. It's laudable that you want to promote safety for students at Temple but this isn't the place to do it. Editing the article with the intent of shaming the administration into taking action is indeed editing it with a POV and that's something that can't happen here. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 12:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== LawMarcusB == |
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In addition to the whitewashing, there's also a copyvio that I didn't notice until after I had already reverted. Compare the history section to the [http://degreesearch.org/schools/aiu History and Mission section of this page]. If it happens again and I get to it before you, I'll note the copyvio in my warning, but I thought I'd let you know too. [[User:WeisheitSuchen|WeisheitSuchen]] ([[User talk:WeisheitSuchen|talk]]) 14:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. I appreciate the heads up and your attention to detail! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 14:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== 4icu.org Web Popularity Ranking: evidence of notability == |
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List of some reputable sources mentioning the 4icu.org ranking: |
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[http://www.library.uiuc.edu/edx/rankint.htm] |
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[http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/9750.html] |
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[http://www.universia.edu.pe/noticias/principales/destacada.php?id=70666] |
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[http://www.universia.com.br/noticia/materia_dentrodocampus.jsp?not=47383] |
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[http://diario.iol.pt/tecnologia/universidade-coimbra-internet-universidades/1035605-4069.html] |
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[http://www.tribunadonorte.com/index.php?setor=DETALHESNOTICIA&nid=263525] |
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[http://oaa.osu.edu/documents/6_13_08_INTERNATIONALRANKINGS.pdf] |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahjalal_University_of_Science_and_Technology] |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_University_of_Engineering_and_Technology] |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keio_University] |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universidad_del_Valle] |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Tokyo] |
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[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificaci%C3%B3n_acad%C3%A9mica_de_universidades_de_Colombia] |
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[http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Ranking_de_universidades_espa%C3%B1olas] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.129.46|124.170.129.46]] ([[User talk:124.170.129.46|talk]]) 03:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The Wikipedia links don't establish notability and I'm not quite convinced that the other links do much other than establish that the rankings exist and are included in large listings and press releases. I'm not yet convinced but this is a good start! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo|talk]]) 03:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Thanks for your reply. Could you please explain in more detail what kind of evidence of notability you are referring to? If possible taking the Webometrics or G-Factor rankings as an example to briefly show what type of evidence of notability they provide. Thank you for your time. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.129.46|124.170.129.46]] ([[User talk:124.170.129.46|talk]]) 16:56, 6 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I think the point you're trying to make ("why are you picking on me when there are other "rankings" in this article lacking sufficient evidence of notability") is a very good one. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that I don't have time right now to do everything necessary to fix this and related articles (but I plan to remove a lot of material since it is unsupported by verifiable evidence). |
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:To answer the question you actually asked: Please provide evidence that others have stated that the ranking system is important, recognized, notable, etc. Merely reproducing the rankings in a press release doesn't seem like very strong evidence of notability (although it's certainly better than nothing!). Peer-reviewed publications (i.e. academic journal articles) are the gold standard so if you can provide any citations of that kind where this ranking system is studied and taken seriously then that would be very helpful. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo|talk]]) 18:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Thanks for your reply. I understand that you have time to remove new content/rankings for insufficient evidence of notability but no time to remove similar content/rankings which may lack analogous evidence of notability.<br /> |
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I also understand that, according to your reply, a peer-reviewed publication (i.e. academic journal articles) would help assessing the seriousness of the 4icu.org ranking and therefore its notability. I could not find any reference in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability Wikipedia Notability guidelines] to the need of academic level and/or peer-reviewed sources for establishing the notability of a topic. Moreover, those guidelines apply to the inclusion of an entire topic/article in Wikipedia and mention, I quote, "''These notability guidelines only pertain to the encyclopaedic suitability of topics for articles but do not directly limit the content of articles.''" and "''The notability guidelines determine whether a topic is notable enough to be a separate article in Wikipedia. Notability, in the sense used to determine article inclusion, does not directly affect article content.''"<br /> |
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Moreover, is an academic/peer-reviewed source needed for each of the over 2,000,000 Wikipedia articles/topics and their internal content in order to establish their notability? I do not think so.<br /> |
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In regard to the evidence of notability I provided, please note that they are not merely and only press releases and/or collection of links. In particular, following the previous numbered list:<br /><br /> |
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1) [http://www.library.uiuc.edu/edx/rankint.htm University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign - Education and Social Science Library]<br /> |
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Debuted in 1997, The College and University Rankings Web page is maintained by librarians at the Education and Social Science Library, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. It contains selected rankings and provides "caution & controversy" information related to some academic university rankings. I am confident those librarians have enough knowledge and experience to select and assess whether a ranking is worth mentioning before including it in their education resource.<br /> |
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2) [http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/9750.html Indiana University IU News Room]<br /> |
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This is indeed a press release but it is produced by a large and long established US University. The Indiana University communication office would think twice before releasing a news that may, if proved wrong or misleading, undermine their own reputation or be counterproductive.<br /> |
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5) [http://diario.iol.pt/tecnologia/universidade-coimbra-internet-universidades/1035605-4069.html IOL Diario]<br /> |
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Article published in a Portuguese newspaper about the position of the Coimbra University (founded in 1290) in the 4icu.org ranking. The article is in Portuguese where the 4icu.org directory is in English only.<br /> |
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6) [http://www.tribunadonorte.com/index.php?setor=DETALHESNOTICIA&nid=263525 Tribuna do Norte]<br /> |
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Article published in a Brazilian regional newspaper about the position of the UEL University in the 4icu.org ranking. This is probably based on a press news that UEL has autonomously decided to release after evaluating their ranking in the 4icu.org directory.<br /> |
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8) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahjalal_University_of_Science_and_Technology Wikipedia - Shahjalal University of Science and Technology]<br /> |
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This is a Wikipedia article on the Bangladeshi Shahjalal University of Science and Technology edited by Wikipedia contributors that supposedly should follow the same notability guidelines and be able to appraise whether the 4icu.org ranking is relevant and trustworthy.<br /> |
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9) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_University_of_Engineering_and_Technology Wikipedia - Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology ]<br /> |
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Same as above<br /> |
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(10) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keio_University Wikipedia - Keio University]<br /> |
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Same as above but for the Japanese Keio University established in 1858<br /> |
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(11) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Tokyo Wikipedia - Education in Tokyo]<br /> |
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Rankings overview for higher education organisations in Tokyo mentioning the 4icu.org ranking<br /> |
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(12) [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificaci%C3%B3n_acad%C3%A9mica_de_universidades_de_Colombia Wikipedia - Clasificación académica de universidades de Colombia]<br /> |
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Article in Spanish about rankings of higher education organisations in Colombia mentioning the 4icu.org ranking<br /> |
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(13) [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Ranking_de_universidades_espa%C3%B1olas Wikipedia - Ranking de universidades españolas]<br /> |
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Article in Spanish about rankings of higher education organisations in Spain mentioning, once again, the 4icu.org ranking<br /> |
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If several Wikipedia contributors from different countries and in different languages have previously assessed the validity and notability of the 4icu.org ranking in their education related articles I do not see why this should not be considered as an additional and independent source of notability.<br /> |
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I perfectly understand that your editing job is volunteer, it has probably limited time resources and it is primarily intended to preserve the integrity, quality and scope of the Wikipedia encyclopaedia, however, I do think that the reference to the 4icu.org rankings, established [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.4icu.org since 2005], is a valuable and notable resource for this specific Wikipedia article and does follow the Wikipedia guidelines.<br /> |
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Should you be interested in receiving more details about the methodology adopted by the 4icu.org web ranking as a way to better assess its seriousness and notability, I would be happy to provide them to you.<br /> |
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== Copyright Policy == |
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You have violated standard practice for Wikipedia with your constant reverts to the [[University of South Florida]] article. Your goal of protecting against copyright violations is laudable, but please follow the proper procedure. I am not sure why there has been no communication on your part, but I assume it was a simple mistake. |
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Please remember to follow the guidelines set forth at [[WP:SPCP]], which include "assume good faith" and "avoid copyright paranoia". Further, the Wikipedia copyright violation policy states "[i]f you suspect a copyright violation, you should at least bring up the issue on that page's discussion page. Others can then examine the situation and take action if needed. The most helpful piece of information you can provide is a URL or other reference to what you believe may be the source of the text." You have not done this. Please see [[WP:COPYVIO]] for a refresher if needed. |
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The page you have reverted to numerous times is similar content, just outdated, incorrect, and unsourced. The information in question likely qualifies as acceptable not only because the material was NOT produced by the linked website, but also under fair use rationale. If you believe there is a problem, ''please follow Wikipedia policy and '''discuss''' the questionable material on the talk page''. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Cfirst|Cfirst]] ([[User talk:Cfirst|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cfirst|contribs]]) 20:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Reproducing the material is unquestionably a violation of copyright; unless there is some extraordinary evidence of which I am unaware, there is simply nothing here to discuss. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 00:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::I am unclear why you refuse to discuss this matter, '''in accordance with Wikipedia policy''', on the talk page of the article in question. I have already clearly stated several reasons why I believe this material is not a copyright violation. I believe civil discussion could solve this problem, and would appreciate it if you would follow protocol rather than shutting out discussion and simply engaging in edit-warring.[[User:Cfirst|Cfirst]] ([[User talk:Cfirst|talk]]) 01:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::You're welcome to start a discussion on the article's Talk page if you'd like to do so. Unless you have some evidence to present or an argument I don't see a need to bother. It's nothing personal; I'm just not particularly enamored with needless bureaucracy. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 01:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC) |
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==Columbia== |
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This material was on the page for several years. In a much longer section. Someone recently took it down. Obviously it is political, but it is real and hardly minor. I am putting it back up with footnotes. Please look at the history of the article. This was a political sanitization of material of consequence and long-standing.[[User:Historicist|Historicist]] ([[User talk:Historicist|talk]]) 02:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Sorry, but you don't get to add (or restore) "controversies" to an article without good sources. The only real source referenced in that chunk of text literally doesn't even mention Columbia. And the other "source" referenced isn't actually source but someone's name with a date. |
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:I have no objections to well-sourced material being added or restored to that article but that material doesn't fit the bill and meet our standards. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 02:06, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::I'll put up more sources tomorrow. There were myriad. However, you should aways check the history before deciding that a restoration is vandalism. Especially in an article and university you are unfamiliar with.[[User:Historicist|Historicist]] ([[User talk:Historicist|talk]]) 02:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I never said it was vandalism and your assumptions about my level of knowledge about this institution are ridiculous and unfounded. The history of the article and the institution are irrelevant if the material you want to add or restore is not well-supported by reliable sources; this is a [[WP:V|core principle]] of Wikipedia and it's not negotiable. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 04:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::I apologize if I was and sounded annoyed. It's just that so much well-sourced, significant information is removed from pages for political reasons. and it is easy to perceive political things as, well, merely political posturing and trivial. This was not. The 2005 Ad Hoc investigating committee was a pretty major deal, covered by the national press, it went on for months, the accusations of a cover-up were substantive, it has been a section since 2005 and really merits a continuing brief mention on the page.[[User:Historicist|Historicist]] ([[User talk:Historicist|talk]]) 16:25, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::No problem. I'm not terribly happy with the state of that article myself as it seems like some of the less-than-positive aspects of the institution's history are not given the proper weight and level of detail. The historical anti-Semitic nature of some of the institution's actions are very well-known but not well represented in the article. I'm not as familiar with recent events and am leery of giving any recent events undue weight. I have simply assumed that the lack of some historical information was due to the well-known bias of Wikipedia towards more recent events and history but it's certainly possible that there is something more devious going on. I'll poke around more later when I have more time. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 20:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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==[[Lawrence Summers]]== |
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[[User:Binarybits]] continues to revert inappropriate material.[[User:Historicist|Historicist]] ([[User talk:Historicist|talk]]) 16:25, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. I dropped a note at [[WP:BLPN]]. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 20:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC) |
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==Keep up the good work!== |
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ElKevbo, I have watched your edits over time and you have my respect and admiration as an exceptionally balanced and well intentioned editor. Were we local I'd be pleased to buy you supper and the libation of your choice. Cheers! [[User:Sirberus|Sirberus]] ([[User talk:Sirberus|talk]]) 17:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 21:39, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== University of Tennessee == |
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<s>Hi. Do you know any sources for your contributions to the article [[University of Tennessee]]? Some articles in the city paper or on a major news website or publication? And I'm sorry about the huge reversion...I think I reverted a little more than I meant to. But if you could get a source on a few of those statements, that would be great. Thanks! '''<font face="Segoe Print" size="2">~[[User:SunDragon34|<font color="#FF6600">Sun<font color="#800000">Dragon<font color="#000">34</font></font>]]''' [[User talk:SunDragon34|<font color="#000">(<font color ="#800000">talk</font>)</font>]]</font></font> 07:00, 8 March 2009 (UTC)</s> |
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:Oops! Sorry—that comment was meant for Djorvix. I was on his talk page on Huggle, but it was your revision. Sorry about any confusion. '''<font face="Segoe Print" size="2">~[[User:SunDragon34|<font color="#FF6600">Sun<font color="#800000">Dragon<font color="#000">34</font></font>]]''' [[User talk:SunDragon34|<font color="#000">(<font color ="#800000">talk</font>)</font>]]</font></font> 07:02, 8 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Stop deleting relevant information. I'm updating the page, not destroying it. The rankings information that you keep redoing are the latest listings for the University. |
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Hi, I noticed you're a pretty prolific editor... could you please help me upload some pictures for the UT article? It needs photos of campus icons, like the Torchbearer statue and Neyland stadium. My account should be autoconfirmed by now, but after five days it is not and I can't really find out why, so any help you could offer would be great. If you consent, I'll give you the links to the pics online. |
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Thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Benermerut|Benermerut]] ([[User talk:Benermerut|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Benermerut|contribs]]) 00:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Let me know how I can help! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 02:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::Here you go: |
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http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/tenn/galleries/04-football-FLORIDA/running_6988-lg.jpg |
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http://www.electroniccampus.org/school_logos/CollegeforTN/University_of_Tennessee__Knoxville/University_of_Tennessee__Knoxville1.jpg |
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http://bus.utk.edu/undergrad/advising/Images/torchbearer.jpg |
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http://www.utk.edu/tntoday/images/baker-center-exterior-225.jpg |
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http://www.collegefortn.org/school_logos/CollegeforTN/University_of_Tennessee__Knoxville/University_of_Tennessee__Knoxville4.jpg |
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http://www.collegefortn.org/school_logos/CollegeforTN/University_of_Tennessee__Knoxville/University_of_Tennessee__Knoxville3.jpg |
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::Thanks, buddy. That helps a lot. -- [[User:Benermerut|Benermerut]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/160.36.232.170|160.36.232.170]] ([[User talk:160.36.232.170|talk]]) 22:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::Those appear to be copyrighted so they're not very useful at all here in Wikipedia. Do you happen to have any photos you've taken yourself that you'd like to release under a GFDL-compatible license? Or any photos that have already been released under such a license? --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 15:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Yeah, I can make some. I'll put them on photobucket and send you the link. Thank you very much. [[User:Benermerut|Benermerut]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 01:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::::I don't have the time to do so myself but it might be worth taking a look at the CC-licensed material in Flickr (you can specifically search for CC-licensed material using their search engine). --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 01:36, 5 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== For-pay references In ARWU == |
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I have two problems with the reference you reinstated: |
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1) The citation does not add anything to the article. it merely says that the ARWU is cited by the reference. There was already one reference given to support the assertion that the ARWU is cited by other publications. One citation is sufficient. |
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2) Because the citation does not add anything, I question the propriety of turning Wikipedia into an advertising platform for for-pay sites. |
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Note, I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the Nature magazine here. I'd just like to see citation add more to articles than links to for-pay sites. As it stands, it looks to me like a way to get around [[WP:NOT]]. [[User:Vantelimus|Vantelimus]] ([[User talk:Vantelimus|talk]]) 13:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:If the reference doesn't add anything to the article then by all means remove it. I merely objected to removing the reference on the grounds that it isn't free. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 16:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC) |
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==Consensus test on university topics== |
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You previously commented on the RFC on the notability of residences at colleges and universities. A consensus test has been posted to evaluate what, if any consensus, has been reached on the issue. Please go and comment at: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities#Consensus test]]. [[User:Madcoverboy|Madcoverboy]] ([[User talk:Madcoverboy|talk]]) 18:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC) |
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==Queen's== |
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Queen's: and yet everything written (now deleted by you) was true and not merely pov. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Cyril2006|Cyril2006]] ([[User talk:Cyril2006|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cyril2006|contribs]]) 04:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Prove it (i.e. provide references). --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 13:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== College == |
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I will not take the 'College' discussion to talk. I'll leave it there. Wikipedia is based on a failed theory; garbage, even if offensive garbage, if cited, cannot be removed. All that a discussion will achieve is to is get this login banned. Why bother? |
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So, you can live with this new article paragraph, and see a thousand years of European university history disappear into leftist pro-Islamic revisionism. |
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And I suspect there's not a little justice in the matter, since I suspect you're part of the problem of why this is happening. |
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Let ignorance prevail.[[User:Zog the Marvelous|Zog the Marvelous]] ([[User talk:Zog the Marvelous|talk]]) 19:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:If you have better or different sources, cite them. Otherwise, please leave your political screeds off my Talk page. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 00:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Ciao[[User:Zog the Marvelous|Zog the Marvelous]] ([[User talk:Zog the Marvelous|talk]]) 00:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== USF == |
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There appears to be an influx of new users editing [[University of San Francisco]]-related pages. If it's a class project, it was not announced on [[WP:SUP]]. I'd appreciate it if you could keep your anti-vandal eagle eyes on the article over the next few days to see what develops. [[User:Madcoverboy|Madcoverboy]] ([[User talk:Madcoverboy|talk]]) 22:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:Will do. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 23:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC) |
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==AfD nomination of Yale Sustainability== |
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<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|42px]]</div>I have nominated [[Yale Sustainability]], an article that you have been involved with, for [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion]]. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yale Sustainability]]. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.{{-}}Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. <!-- Template:AFDWarning --> [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 15:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== University of Oklahoma GAR == |
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[[University of Oklahoma]] has been nominated for a [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment|good article reassessment]]. Articles are typically reviewed for one week. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to [[Wikipedia:What is a good article?|good article quality]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are [[Talk:University of Oklahoma{{#if:1|/GA1}}|here]].--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 13:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== FAU == |
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I have left a comment at FAU's talk expressing my concern about COI editing and have likewise warned Yezn0r about his edit-warring behavior. Thanks for the heads up. [[User:Madcoverboy|Madcoverboy]] ([[User talk:Madcoverboy|talk]]) 18:14, 8 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Grove City College == |
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Thank you for helping improve the article [[Grove City College]]; however, with [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Grove_City_College&diff=288685413&oldid=288685240 this edit] you removed external links that another editor and I determined should remain. Would you mind stating the reasons why you removed those links on [[Talk:Grove City College]] in the section where we discussed it? I would appreciate it. [[User:EdGl|<font color="green" face="Magneto">'''~EdGl'''</font>]] [[User talk:EdGl|<font color="orange" face="Magneto">★</font>]] 15:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:Done. Thanks for dropping me a line! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 16:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thank you for sharing your opinions. I replied to your post on that talk page so I'm ready for more of your input :) [[User:EdGl|<font color="green" face="Magneto">'''~EdGl'''</font>]] [[User talk:EdGl|<font color="orange" face="Magneto">★</font>]] 17:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Please help == |
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Kevbo, could I have your input at [[Talk:MidAmerica Nazarene University]]? I realise that I'm not super-friendly, and perhaps that's going to burn me, but I've been civil as far as I can tell and I'm still running into [[WP:V]] issues with an editor that might be causing more [[WP:CIVIL]] issues the more I refer to guidelines. I'd love to know ''if'' I'm wrong but I think I've gone about things the right way, if not, as I said, a super-friendly way.... More at [[User talk:Moonraker0022]].... [[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 19:32, 18 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:I've left my opinion and I applaud your willingness to seek out a neutral third party! |
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:But you may have gone a bit off track when you started with the "student poop" example... :) --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 20:05, 18 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks; I'd exhausted constant references to guidelines and thought that the only way I could reason was to show that I wasn't some kook and that the guidelines don't exist based on my whim. I don't know if you read all of the talk page, but I spent ''way'' too much time debunking logical fallacies and ideas that defied [[WP:VERIFY]]. What really stymied me was a repeated attempt to tell me that information on Wikipedia didn't need sources. <s>Anyway, I've just replied to your comment.</s> |
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::I just wanted to let you know that the encyclopedia isn't ''by'' students but ''for'' students (makes sense to me, I guess, considering a school like [[MidAmerica Nazarene University|MNU]] wouldn't mean much to the average population), and that I had considered [[Encyclopedia Britannica]] more "third-party" and "independent" than the school's own website. What was even more odd than the VERIFY issues was that the editor was adamant about the college being ''farther'' from [[Kansas City]]. While I didn't want to assume any bad faith and certainly don't recall making any [[WP:COI]] accusations, I've found that the editor has [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Church_of_the_Nazarene&diff=prev&oldid=97513699 admitted] attending a [[SNU|competing school]]. The editor tried [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Southern_Nazarene_University&diff=290190604&oldid=290134945 guessing] what my association was with such articles -- so I didn't even take too kindly to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:MidAmerica_Nazarene_University&diff=next&oldid=290715045 asking] if I'd been to KC before, either; I'm certainly not looking forward to being outed. I was also just plain worried about the long track record of that editor adding PR-style information (not sure how that fits in with the potential COI, though), not using sources, and using misleading edit summaries during our dispute. The editor clearly took umbrage when I said that things didn't meet the [[WP:MOS]] or VERIFY and seemed to consider edits and/or articles his/her [[WP:OWN]] to some extent. |
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::The distance issue is just the latest saga, and was getting close to [[WP:CIVIL|incivility]], IMHO. I especially value your opinion, and thought it was time to bring in a third party. I know I'm a "stickler for the rules" but I don't see the point of having the guidelines unless it's to establish [[WP:NPOV]] and eliminate COI. The poop/pee example was my (failed, apparently) attempt to innocuously point out that when information cites a source and an editor just changes the information that's verified by that source, it isn't exactly kosher, haha. I agree that it's silly. Whenever I run into issues that are solved with VERIFY, I'm just happy to agree with other editors; I don't flip out and start rambling like a mad person.... Thanks again. Any other advice? Is any of what I'm saying here new, and does it make sense? [[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 21:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:MidAmerica_Nazarene_University&diff=290980038&oldid=290783809 responded] at [[Talk:MidAmerica Nazarene University#Distance from Kansas City]]. I also forgot to point out (as I added there, as well) that the 1-mile difference wasn't between the sources. The sources differed by 5 miles, while the editor used a source that said 19 and adjusted the content to say 20 for both sources multiple times. [[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 17:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Yeah, I caught that. I was completely ignoring the Google map as a source and only referring to the Britannica and institutional website sources. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 17:22, 19 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::I'm sorry that they're so belated, but I wanted to offer you my thanks for your help over at [[MidAmerica Nazarene University]]. I found your input helpful and refreshing. [[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 21:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::You're very welcome! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 22:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Executive Education External Links == |
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sorry, but there is no conflict of interest between the user name and the external link. "ExecEd" is how most people commonly refer to executive education. i was looking for an execed program in finance and that site was the only one i found that listed the upcoming programs from all the top schools. it's really unique. hope this helps. thanks <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExecEdStudent|ExecEdStudent]] ([[User talk:ExecEdStudent|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExecEdStudent|contribs]]) 19:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Ok. It might be best to post a similar message in the Talk page of the article so that others can read your message and we can see what they think, too. Thanks for your response! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 19:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC) |
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thanks ElKevbo. unfortunately, there is no talk page associated with the article and i'm not sure it's worth staring one just for this (minor) issue. what do you think of the other external link? seems like switching it to the financial times executive education page - http://www.ft.com/businesseducation/executiveeducation2009 - would be a better choice. they have a global interactive list of execed programs and the ft is one of the most prestigious business publications in the world <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExecEdStudent|ExecEdStudent]] ([[User talk:ExecEdStudent|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExecEdStudent|contribs]]) 21:25, 20 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Sounds good to me! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 21:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC) |
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thanks again for your help. i added the link to the financial times and restored the link to the list of upcoming execed programs. those two will certainly add to the value of the article. hope you like the changes <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ExecEdStudent|ExecEdStudent]] ([[User talk:ExecEdStudent|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ExecEdStudent|contribs]]) 20:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Hi I am new to Wikipedia editing but I thought the execedprograms.com link was useful because its the only site with a collection of these programs, in comparison to searching for these programs at each school 50+ times for their MBA and ExecEd programs. Thanks. [[User:Lightlumina|Lightlumina]] ([[User talk:Lightlumina|talk]]) 22:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:I strongly recommend posting this to the Talk page of the article so you can get broader input from other editors. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 23:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC) |
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==Gustavus Adolphus College== |
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''Moved from my user page.'' |
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All our academic deans resigned upon his appointment. He bankrupted the last college he was president of. Do you even go here? What gives you the perspective to judge anything? GTFO <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:138.236.250.182|138.236.250.182]] ([[User talk:138.236.250.182|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/138.236.250.182|contribs]]) 20:08, May 23, 2009</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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:It may be regrettable and unfortunate but it's very common for senior executives to "resign" when a new president takes charge of an institution as it gives him or her the opportunity to bring in his or her own people. Even if this situation is different it certainly doesn't belong in the "Disasters" section of the article. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 02:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Challenger == |
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Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster&curid=403717&diff=292245713&oldid=291227325 this edit] to [[Space Shuttle Challenger disaster]], I'm not saying I think the info should necessarily be restored to the article, but it's not usually considered proper to remove something because the link(s) that supported it are no longer available on the web. Even so, we don't necessarily have to [[WP:AGF]] about the info; it could be supported by [http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2006/02/09/1565619.htm this online link], for example. Offline sources include "Elizabeth Gosch. "Fed: Bundaberg historic house home to Challenger memorabilia." AAP General News . Newspaper Source Plus, EBSCOhost (accessed May 25, 2009)." and "David Dale. 2001. "SIGN POSTS." Sydney Morning Herald, The : 24. Newspaper Source Plus, EBSCOhost (accessed May 25, 2009)." There aren't a lot of sources, and again, I'm not sure the info even ought to be there, but it does appear it could be cited from [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] if it were desirable to have it in the article. <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">[[User:Frank|<span style="color:cyan;background:blue"> Frank </span>]] {{!}} [[user_talk:Frank|<span style="color:blue;background:cyan"> talk </span>]]</span></small> 16:50, 25 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:If you have reliable sources, please include them; the sources that were present were problematic. I think the bar should be pretty high for FAs. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 17:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::I provided three reliable sources above. Your edit summary seemed to indicate it was removed solely for lack of access to sources. I've solved that problem; whether or not the info improves the article is another question. <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">[[User:Frank|<span style="color:cyan;background:blue"> Frank </span>]] {{!}} [[user_talk:Frank|<span style="color:blue;background:cyan"> talk </span>]]</span></small> 17:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I leave that judgment to those with knowledge of the subject and a vested interest in the article as I am neither. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 17:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Very well; I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster&diff=292262947&oldid=291202897 parked the info] on the talk page of the article in case someone shows up with some interest in the matter. <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">[[User:Frank|<span style="color:cyan;background:blue"> Frank </span>]] {{!}} [[user_talk:Frank|<span style="color:blue;background:cyan"> talk </span>]]</span></small> 17:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Looks good, Frank. Thanks! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 18:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== I didn't do anyrthing wrong == |
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Hello ElKevbo. I got a message from you saying I was vandalizing. I have not been vandalizing and I don't know why you are acusing me. Please reply. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GatorSlayerFSU|GatorSlayerFSU]] ([[User talk:GatorSlayerFSU|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GatorSlayerFSU|contribs]]) 20:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Among other things, you [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=State_University_System_of_Florida&diff=prev&oldid=292726328 moved] FSU ahead of all other Florida institutions on a [[State University System of Florida|list]] that was otherwise in alphabetical order. Please stop making edits that obviously favor and promote FSU above other institutions. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 00:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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ElKevbo , I was moving the cities in order , It got undone by the time I was gonna edit the other. I was putting FAMU and FSU together because the are both in Tallahassee. I was putting cities in order. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GatorSlayerFSU|GatorSlayerFSU]] ([[User talk:GatorSlayerFSU|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GatorSlayerFSU|contribs]]) 02:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Okay. Please accept my apologies. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 03:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Requested ref == |
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Hello. Can you ofer me a reference regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Culture_of_the_United_States_Marine_Corps&curid=18776523&diff=293252510&oldid=292469894 this claim]? While I don't think I'm the person who added it (though I could be mistaken), what I've been taught at various NCO schools supports the statement you removed. Even if you can't, I suppose that it is better to leave it removed, since it is unreferenced, but I'd like to know if some of my academic instruction has been incorrect. '''[[User:Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#918151;color:#000;">bahamut0013</span>]]'''[[User talk:Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#D2B48C;color:#000;"><sup><small>words</small></sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Bahamut0013|<span style="background:#D2B48C;color:#000;"><sub><small>deeds</small></sub></span>]] 08:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:[http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/uniform_sword.htm Here] you go! It's buried in there as the use of the cutlass is rather antiquated and limited to Navy boot camp but it's there. There's also a Chief's sword but I've only seen it awarded in ceremonies and never actually worn so I think it's either outdated or unofficial (despite being sold in uniform shops on base). --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 13:18, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Doc == |
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Hey, I was always under the impression that it's best to use "So-and-so president &c." instead of "Dr. So-and-so president &c." in the university infobox per MOS, but I can't seem to find any reference to that. Am I just on crack, or is there actually a legitimate source for that? I must've just picked it up after seeing someone remove the "Dr." and use the MOS as a reason long ago, but I'm not sure now. [[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 15:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:I think there is something somewhere about our use of honorifics but I don't recall where that is and if there is anything specific to infoboxes in general or this specific infobox. I don't get too worried about that kind of stuff although if I were in charge (hah!) I would like to see the degree following the person's name as that is a bit more informative than either their name or just "Dr." (does that mean EdD, PhD, MD, or what?). But leaving it out altogether is fine by me and probably in line with standard practice. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 17:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::[[WP:CREDENTIAL]]? [[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 19:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Yeah, that seems to be it. I don't quite agree with it but that appears to be the policy/guideline/whatever. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 20:15, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Formal Mediation for Sports Logos == |
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As a contributor to [[Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/RFC_on_use_of_sports_team_logos]], you have been included in a request for formal mediation regarding the subject at [[Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Use of Sports Logos]]. With your input and agreement to work through mediation, it is hoped we can achieve a lasting solution. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 13:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== Thanks == |
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For the tip about the <nowiki>{{seealso}}</nowiki> template tool! {{unsigned|Sammy Houston|09:14, June 1, 2009}} |
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:You're welcome. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 14:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC) |
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==George W. Bush GA Sweeps: On Hold== |
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I have reviewed [[George W. Bush]] for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed '''[[Talk:George W. Bush/GA1|here]]'''. Since you are a main contributor of the article (determined based on [http://vs.aka-online.de/cgi-bin/wppagehiststat.pl this tool]), I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! [[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nehrams2020|contrib]]) 21:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== St. John's University (New York) == |
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A content dispute at [[St. John's University (New York)]] between an IP editor and a registered editor with a potential [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] has gotten a bit out of hand and devolved into [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]], [[WP:OUTING|outing]], and general nastiness. A 24-hour page protection has been [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=St._John%27s_University_(New_York)&diff=295628584&oldid=295578900 imposed], but I'm requesting that other editors intervene to develop a consensus on the dispute while the protection is in place. [[User:Madcoverboy|Madcoverboy]] ([[User talk:Madcoverboy|talk]]) 19:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC) |
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==Rosenberg at FIU== |
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Not that it really matters, but what's your deal with keeping Rosenberg off the list as the fifth FIU president? His tenure may not start until August 3, 2009, but that doesn't make him any less the fifth president. It's not as if his name is being placed in the template box under current president. --[[User:Comayagua99|Comayagua99]] ([[User talk:Comayagua99|talk]]) 18:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:He's not president until...he's actually president. :) --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 06:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== IP Vandalism on BC Article == |
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Hi. If you're an admin (you put a block warning on 71.232.129.16's talk page), perhaps it's time to act on this. The vandal (also using 71.232.194.195) is putting that tedious thing about the "vast expanses of concrete" in the article again... Thanks. [[User:Seduisant|Seduisant]] ([[User talk:Seduisant|talk]]) 14:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm not seeing any recent activity by either of those IPs or anything in the BC article. Am I missing something? --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 14:30, 19 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:Maybe this isn't considered "recent", but it's this week: |
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:http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Boston_College&diff=prev&oldid=296436861 |
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:[[User:Seduisant|Seduisant]] ([[User talk:Seduisant|talk]]) 20:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. Generally editors are only blocked if they're actively editing disruptively so we'll need to wait to see if this happens again and we can catch him or her "in the act." --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 23:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:It's begun again... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.232.129.16) |
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==George Mason University== |
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Hi, please keep in mind that reverting a Wikipedia page more than three times in a 24-hour period would be a violation of the [[Wikipedia:3RR#The_Three_revert_rule|three revert rule]] (WP:3RR) and would result in a block. Also, accusing another editor of vandalism when you disagree with the editor's edits is generally considered [[WP:CIVIL|uncivil]]. I suggest you use the talkpage to explain your views. [[Special:Contributions/173.66.36.76|173.66.36.76]] ([[User talk:173.66.36.76|talk]]) 16:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC) |
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:Sorry to butt-in, but there are [[Wikipedia:3RR#Exceptions_to_3RR|exceptions to 3RR]], such as in cases of [[WP:VANDAL|vandalism]]. --[[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 16:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC) |
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==Baruch College School of Public Affairs== |
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Hi Elkevbo: |
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Please let me know why the additions to the Baruch College wiki were deleted. I understand we can't link to external in the body but I'm not sure why the content was deleted. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/150.210.51.94|150.210.51.94]] ([[User talk:150.210.51.94|talk]]) 15:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The material was almost entirely copied from the [http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/spa/aboutspa/index.php Baruch website]. That website may be a good source of information but we have to adapt it to our own words and layout; simply changing a few words and omitting a few sentences is not sufficient. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 17:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Who are you? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.194.250.71|68.194.250.71]] ([[User talk:68.194.250.71|talk]]) 15:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Just another Wikipedia editor... :) --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 00:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== University of Florida: Most Prestigious in State == |
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ElKevbo----Thank you for your recent edit and comments regarding the statement that the University of Florida "is the most academically prestigious in the state." That statement, my friend, is objective fact. Whether it is adequately supported by the footnote referencing the latest US News & World Report national university rankings is questionable. So, in answer to your comment, I will re-write the footnote to include references to multiple sources and rankings (many of which are already included in the text of other sections within the article). |
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I write citations and footnotes for a living, and I can assure you that the statement is objectively true. Here's a question in response: Among Central Florida, Embry-Riddle, Florida, Florida A&M, Florida Atlantic, Florida Gulf Coast, Florida International, Florida Southern, Florida State, Miami, North Florida, Rollins, South Florida, Stetson, West Florida, which school is the most academically prestigious? It's an easy answer . . . every ranking service has Florida ranked ahead of the rest as an undergraduate college, and for virtually every graduate program. If you believe it is required, I will list citations to every undergraduate and graduate school ranking available. I would prefer not to do so, but merely include 3 or 4 representative citations in a "See, e.g." footnote. [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 22:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:ElKevbo, I hope the revised footnote satisfies your discerning use of academic sources. Ironically, the empirical rankings, usually based on volume of published research and similar research-related criteria, all rate Florida higher than US News does. Florida's US News undergrad and grad school rankings suffer from the lower starting salaries typical of the state. It's also one of the reasons that secondary California schools rank higher than they objectively should on US News' list----because staring salaries are higher in California based on the regional cost of living. Many astute observers have complained for years that US News needs to adjust estimated starting salaries for regional cost of living differentials. The editors are aware of the problem and continue to ignore it. Given present economic conditions and declining salaries, I suspect the secondary U Cal schools will see their US News rankings take a hit the next 2 years. Cheers. [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 00:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== Heads up == |
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Thought you should know about [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Urhixidur&diff=prev&oldid=301567305 this]. A rather understandable assumption, I suppose, considering the correlation between [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Boston_College&diff=301246980&oldid=301242940 this edit] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Boston_College&diff=302865941&oldid=302706042 this one]. [[WP:SOCK]] seems pretty clear to me but I'm not sure if [[WP:RFCU]] is necessary, and I don't know the procedure for either. Fun times. :-) --[[User:Arverniking|King of the Arverni]] ([[User talk:Arverniking|talk]]) 00:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:No worries, mate. I appreciate the heads up! |
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:In addition, I would consider not participating in the mediation case if I were you. It seems like a waste of your time and it would be much better to let the discussion play out in the article's Talk page than to waste a mediator's time and energy. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 05:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC) |
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==Cranbrook Schools== |
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Would you be so nice and have a look on the article [[Cranbrook Schools]]? I constantly try to make this article better but a user called John DC constantly tries to change into an older version. I would appreciate your opinion on that! Thanks in advance!--[[Special:Contributions/92.227.212.128|92.227.212.128]] ([[User talk:92.227.212.128|talk]]) 09:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm afraid that until you or other editors begin adding references to the article it's going to remain a mess. Based on a quick glance, it appears that JohnInDC is doing good work. Sorry! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 14:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for the help. I'll get to work on sourcing it (after I get home from vacation and back in front of a useable machine). Fortunately despite the lack of sourcing the facts of the article are, by and large, not the subject of any dispute and collecting sources should be easy. |
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::Also FWIW I notice you've warned the IP editor against edit warring. What you'll find is that this editor's IP address changes with virtually every edit, so it's unlikely they'll ever see it. Would semi-protection be appropriate if this continues? [[User:JohnInDC|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC|talk]]) 15:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::If they continue edit warring then I think that semi-protection would be most appropriate if we can't block this editor. I see that he or she is either changed addresses or enlisting others and I just wanted to make sure that he or she had been formally warned once or twice. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 15:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Here are my sources: |
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www.farang.de/Archiv/AUSGABEN/2007_07.html Ambassador Prompoj |
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schools.cranbrook.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=108139 Pulitzer Prize winner Taro Yamasaki |
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www.petermaass.com/core.cfm?p=1&mag=129&magtype=1 Gabriel Nguema Lima |
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--[[Special:Contributions/92.227.212.128|92.227.212.128]] ([[User talk:92.227.212.128|talk]]) 16:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Why did you undo my older version? Everything was referenced! --[[Special:Contributions/92.227.212.128|92.227.212.128]] ([[User talk:92.227.212.128|talk]]) 16:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Thank you. I would like to add Kathryn Iacocca, daughter of Lee Iacocca and President of Iacocca foundation, (http://www.nytimes.com/1986/04/20/style/kathryn-iacocca-to-marry-in-june.html) and Eric Nederlander, a Broadway producer, (http://www.celebrityprepschools.com/) on the list. What do you think about that?--92.227.212.128 (talk) 16:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)--[[Special:Contributions/78.52.219.98|78.52.219.98]] ([[User talk:78.52.219.98|talk]]) 17:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:Looks okay to me. It would probably be better to ask these kinds of questions on the Talk page of the article so that everyone that is interested in the article can chime in. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 18:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::It is not okay with me! Please see the Talk page, where the IP user asked this same question and met with my objection, and request for others' input. [[User:JohnInDC|JohnInDC]] ([[User talk:JohnInDC|talk]]) 18:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Hi Kevbo. I just made a navbox for Washington & Jefferson College – [[Template:W&J]], but I can't figure out how to get the "View/Discuss/Edit" or "[Hide]" tools at the top of it to match the school colors and make them red. I know you're a heavy contributor to academia articles, do you think you could help? Thanks. <small>[[User:Jrcla2|Jrcla2]] <sup>[[User talk:Jrcla2|talk]]</sup></small> 20:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:If understand your request correctly, I think you just had an extra hash mark specifying the color. I removed it. If that didn't fix it, please specify exactly what is still wrong and I'll continue poking at it! --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 21:24, 9 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::Perfect. I didn't see the extra hash mark. Making templates is kinda like writing - you can only see errors in your own work up to a point. Beyond the basics, an extra set of eyes is needed. You fixed my problem, much obliged. <small>[[User:Jrcla2|Jrcla2]] <sup>[[User talk:Jrcla2|talk]]</sup></small> 21:27, 9 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== FAs == |
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Hey, is there a guideline somewhere that says you can't tag FAs? I've had a fairly ridiculous and unenlightening spat with a couple of editors who say you can't, but who haven't been able to communicate why/how despite my repeated requests. --[[User:Inquietudeofcharacter|inquietudeofcharacter]] ([[User talk:Inquietudeofcharacter|talk]]) 23:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:I know of no such prohibition and I would oppose it if I found one. Being a FA doesn't mean that an article is perfect. Some are older and were made FAs when our standards were much lower. And even the best articles can deteriorate over time if they're not well maintained and carefully watched. --[[User:ElKevbo|ElKevbo]] ([[User talk:ElKevbo#top|talk]]) 00:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::Really? So what's your take on [[Talk:Ohio Wesleyan University#Tags]]? That is, other than the fact that I can be a huge pain in the ass, which I'm sure you knew anyway. It's nothing of any great importance or anything. --[[User:Inquietudeofcharacter|inquietudeofcharacter]] ([[User talk:Inquietudeofcharacter|talk]]) 01:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Sorry; I didn't want to waste your time with a non-existent content dispute; I had become concerned about the FA-tagging issue. --[[User:Inquietudeofcharacter|inquietudeofcharacter]] ([[User talk:Inquietudeofcharacter|talk]]) 03:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== CCU == |
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Thanks for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Colorado_Christian_University&diff=307246560&oldid=307246126 help] over at [[Colorado Christian University]]. Looks like the [[User:WebDev1914|primary contributor]] lately is the school's web development office, so I [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Colorado_Christian_University&diff=307398778&oldid=307389212 added] a couple of tags to encourage some NPOV input and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Colorado_Christian_University&diff=307400911&oldid=284286779 explained] the tagging on the talk page. I don't mine a little COI, I suppose, as long as the editor welcomes others' input, as well, to make sure it's all NPOV. --[[User:Inquietudeofcharacter|inquietudeofcharacter]] ([[User talk:Inquietudeofcharacter|talk]]) 18:00, 11 August 2009 (UTC) |
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John Jay Article
[edit]Hey, I don't know how to leave a signature so sorry about that but saw your edit. Those were college majors (have provided a link to the correct source), I don't know if it's against WP policy to list the majors the college offers (if it does, please feel free to let me know or undo it and I apologize) but wanted to give you the heads up. Anyway, it is dedicated to Criminal Justice, hence the college's name (John Jay College of Criminal Justice). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.108.33 (talk • contribs) 22:16, November 4, 2021 (UTC)
Ohio University Russ College + ARC Building
[edit]Would you kindly merge the articles please? Haven't had time to discover how; appreciate your help! Sapienna (talk) 20:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Ursuline College
[edit]Hi @ElKevbo! I was wondering if it would be possible to restore the additions recently made to the Ursuline College page regarding their ranking by U.S. News and World Report. Other Ohio universities' pages use extremely similar wording, like under the Academics and Rankings section of Bowling Green State University. Let me know your thoughts, and thanks so much for your help! I am new to editing articles so still learning the ropes! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tay.sauer (talk • contribs) 10:25, December 16, 2024 (UTC)
- I have no objection to including relevant, up-to-date rankings in the article. But they should be described in neutral language and with accuracy, including the year of the ranking.
- And I strongly recommend that you restrict most or all of your editing about Ursuline to the article's Talk page given your employment and your specific role at the college. ElKevbo (talk) 15:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Will do, thank you so much for letting me know! Tay.sauer Tay.sauer (talk) 15:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
USNA DGA
[edit]Not sure what you have against USNA distinguished graduates. "Unnecessary detail" isn't a reason for deletion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_removal#Reasons_for_content_removal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomhubbard (talk • contribs) 00:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- You may find it helpful to review our general policy on what Wikipedia is not and our specific guidance on what we typically include in articles about colleges and universities. In general, we try to aim for articles that cover the most important information about an institution without delving into a lot of detail about any particular aspect unless that detail is critical e.g., precise size of endowment, year of founding, number of students enrolled. A detailed listing of alumni who receive a particular award from the institution doesn't seem to be the kind of critical information we should include in an encyclopedia article.
- You're welcome to open a discussion in the article's Talk page to see if other editors have different opinions! ElKevbo (talk) 02:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
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