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==2009 VMA Kanye West Incident==
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ABC's Terry Moran reported that President Obama referred to Kanye West as a "jackass" in an "off the record" interview. I think it's worthy of noting alongside the other celebrity reaction. [http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0909/did_obama_call_kanye_a_jackass.html] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.21.82.64|24.21.82.64]] ([[User talk:24.21.82.64|talk]]) 03:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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[[Special:Contributions/98.88.73.158|98.88.73.158]] ([[User talk:98.88.73.158|talk]]) 04:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)If you would call any of Kanye West's statements (including his apology on the first episode of the Jay Leno Show an apology, you might as well name me as Pope when Pope Benedict passes away.
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I support Kanye. This girl is a waste of life and her songs are terrible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.119.249 (talk) 15:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
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*Whether you like here or not doesn't excuse his behavior. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 16:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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::lol u mad? yeah her singing sucks, but she's hot and in the end, that's all that matters... [[Special:Contributions/99.236.221.124|99.236.221.124]] ([[User talk:99.236.221.124|talk]]) 15:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
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*No, I'm more bothered that people try to make excuses for someone like West and his ilk. It shows the general lack of parenting the generation who primarily patronizes West suffers from. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 16:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
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Well..I will say this. I'm the very first person to add this to Wikipedia, you can check the history of the Taylor Swift page, which was the first place it appeared in. I totally support Taylor Swift. Kanye West shouldn't have discriminated her just because she's young, white, and sings country. Alot of people online are saying that race has nothing to do with this, and im suspecting that alot of those people are black. Race has alot to do with this unfortunately. Kanye has done this alot, like most of you know, and it's been against white people in support of other black artists, including himself. I wish people would stop saying that race has nothing to do with it. [[User:Froggy26rk|Froggy26rk]] ([[User talk:Froggy26rk|talk]]) 08:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
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It's been said that this was nothing more then a publicity stunt since both Kayne and Taylor share the same agent. Also shortly after this it does appear as if Taylor has alot going on and well putting 2 and 2 together this does have publicity stunt written all over it. These commercial events would never ever permit anything to happen that was unscripted, too much is on the line. Everything that has happened at these award shows are always planned ahead of time.
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I wasn't prepared to edit the article since im not sure how credible things are but [http://www.drunkenstepfather.com/index.php/2009/09/17/kanye-west-and-taylor-swift-have-the-same-agent-of-the-day/ this link somewhat confirms things.] Others may have more information on this.[[User:Woods01|Woods01]] ([[User talk:Woods01|talk]]) 00:40, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
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*You're kidding right? You don't seriously think drunkenstepfather.com would pass as a reliable source for anything do you? [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 04:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
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==Co Writing Songs==
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Gerald Rankin writes most songs for Taylor. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Gerrycu2|Gerrycu2]] ([[User talk:Gerrycu2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gerrycu2|contribs]]) 06:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Taylor Co Wrote Kellie Pickler's single "Best Days of Your Life"
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She co-writes all of her songs if not she writes them herself. -- Proof; read the booklet in her album.
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Taylor has a song on the soundtrack called "Crazier" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.230.96.109|69.230.96.109]] ([[User talk:69.230.96.109|talk]]) 05:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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"—While most girls her age are cruising the mall to try on the latest from stores like Abercrombie & Fitch, rising country newcomer Taylor Swift is starring in an ad campaign for the trendy retailer. " -http://www.gactv.com/gac/nw_music_beat/article/0,,GAC_26067_5087557,00.html <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Uthorns4|Uthorns4]] ([[User talk:Uthorns4|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Uthorns4|contribs]]) 05:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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-Taylor Swift is featured in the "RISING STARS" from a 2004 issue of Vanity Fair, [[Wentworth Miller]], of [[Prison Break]] is also featured along with [[Chris Carmack]] from [[The O.C]].
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I Kanye's site is so strongly protected...why isn't Taylor's site just as secure as his??? Why is her's only "Semi-" protected? [[User:JoelleLynn|JoelleLynn]] ([[User talk:JoelleLynn|talk]]) 07:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC) Joelle [[User:JoelleLynn|JoelleLynn]] ([[User talk:JoelleLynn|talk]]) 07:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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*Probably because she was the victim, not the aggressor. Nobody has been here cursing her out.[[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 05:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
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==Guitar==
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Is her guitar made of [[Acacia koa|koa]] wood? [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] 00:43, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
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Yes. It's made by [[Taylor Guitars]]. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] 22:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
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=="Teardrops On My Guitar"==
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This song was inspired by a true event during Taylor's time in high school. She liked a guy named "Drew Hardwick", who only saw Taylor as a friend and a go-to person for advice about his relationship with his current girlfriend.
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This can be confirmed by Taylor herself in this YouTube video:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lyBXrzR3s <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lefty04628|Lefty04628]] ([[User talk:Lefty04628|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lefty04628|contribs]]) 19:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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::Is there any reason the name Drew Hardwick is in quotation marks? [[User:Holford|Holford]] ([[User talk:Holford|talk]]) 00:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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:::"Some people" just "like" to "overuse" "quotation marks" for "no" reason. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten&nbsp;Pound&nbsp;Hammer</span>]] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]]•[[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]])</sup> 00:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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:::Because of the [[use-mention distinction]] - the sentence is about the name "Drew Hardwick," not the person Drew Hardwick.[[User:VoluntarySlave|VoluntarySlave]] ([[User talk:VoluntarySlave|talk]]) 00:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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::::I don't want to get into an edit war over this. The sentence and the song are about a person, Drew Hardwick. Neither are not about the name Drew Hardwick. To say that he has a particular name is simply to identify that particular person. It makes no sense to say that it is about the name. You can have a song about a name, e.g. "A Boy Named Sue" by Johnny Cash (though even this could arguably be said to be about the person and not the name), but this is not an example of that. [[User:Holford|Holford]] ([[User talk:Holford|talk]]) 12:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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:::::I agree the song is about the person, but the sentence as currently structured is about the fact that the person in question has a particular name, namely, "Drew Hardwick." To write "The song is about a person named Drew Hardwick" would be incorrect, because it states that Drew Hardwick is his own name; obviously that's wrong, because Drew Hardwick is a person, not a name. We could say "The song is about Drew Hardwick," but I kind of feel phrasing it that way implies that we expect people to know who Drew Hardwick is. Actually, I don't know if we need to mention the person's name explicitly at all. [[User:VoluntarySlave|VoluntarySlave]] ([[User talk:VoluntarySlave|talk]]) 17:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I am completely confused by the quotation marks as they stand. If I see a proper name in quotes like this, my assumption would be that the song is about a literal real-life person Taylor Swift knew and the name in quotations was a pseudonym she used to protect his identity. If the song is actually about a guy by the name of Drew Hardwick, then it doesn't need quotation marks. However, I agree with VoluntarySlave that I don't see the point in actually NAMING the person especially since there's no notability to him that I can see. It's not like, say, "He Stopped Loving Her Today" which George Jones wrote it about Tammy Wynette, who has notability in being a famous country musician in her own right as well as the notability of being Jones' ex-wife. Hardwick is just a high school crush from what I can tell here. Correct me on this if I'm wrong. [[User:GBrady|GBrady]] ([[User talk:GBrady|talk]]) 17:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

==layout of article==

will someone please fix the "rise to fame" section and the section underneath? most of the underneath section should be included under rise to fame. someone broke the article recently. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/143.44.65.254|143.44.65.254]] ([[User talk:143.44.65.254|talk]]) 19:07, 30 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Hey to the part where she "has written over 200 songs" add citation! I would but I don't know how! The website is http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/taylorswift123.htm thx! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Princess2217|Princess2217]] ([[User talk:Princess2217|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Princess2217|contribs]]) 23:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==other work==
just like to add that she has appeared in the video for no one is safe thing on youtube about the lawrence king death <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.177.60.232|75.177.60.232]] ([[User talk:75.177.60.232|talk]]) 23:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Someone please edit the early life -section, someone has had some fun with it. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.250.52.75|84.250.52.75]] ([[User talk:84.250.52.75|talk]]) 05:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Taylor recently did a photo shoot with L.E.I. Jeans (Life Energy Intelligence) and is now the new face of the brand. http://www.leijeans.com/ [[User:Tayfan11|Tayfan11]] ([[User talk:Tayfan11|talk]]) 19:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and added that. [[User:Greenguitar3|Greenguitar3]] ([[User talk:Greenguitar3|talk]]) 00:41, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

==Awards==
Taylor WON the award for Top New Female Vocalist at the ACM's this year.[[User:Tayfan11|Tayfan11]] ([[User talk:Tayfan11|talk]]) 19:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Taylor also won the Breakout Artist Award at the Teen Choice Awards on August 4th.

http://teenchoiceawards.com/pdfs/TC08awardswinners.pdf <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.18.113.168|24.18.113.168]] ([[User talk:24.18.113.168|talk]]) 18:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Taylor was also nominated for a grammy, best new artist. <span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.81.82.173|72.81.82.173]] ([[User talk:72.81.82.173|talk]]) 20:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Opinionated user==
Does anyone have any idea who the user is that keeps adding vandalism to Taylor Swift's article. When I saw this article, this genius user wrotr profanity at the bottom of her page. They also wrote on the discography section; "to view an exhaustive list of her discography", which was so opinionated. This is an encyclopedia, if you can't follow the rules, don't write for us! Will someone who has the authority to, block this user, maybe they will learn a lesson from this. [[User:Dottiewest1fan|Dottiewest1fan]] ([[User talk:Dottiewest1fan|talk]]) 23:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
:"Exhaustive" is a synonym for "complete". It doesn't mean anything negative. I've changed it to "complete" to avoid any confusion. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 18:49, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

== Factual Error ==

In the article it says that LeAnn Rimes is Taylor Swift's Grandmother. This is impossible due to multiple things: Firstly, LeAnn Rimes is 25 years old and secondly she has no kids, let alone grand kids. The article is semi-protected, so I can't edit it, someone else should fix that.

P.S. The source cited for this error has no evidence to support the claim. All the source says is: "It seems fitting that Taylor's first idol in country music was LeAnn Rimes. "I knew every song she ever sang," she says. LeAnn at the time was 14 years old, just starting her career." (Source 2 on Taylor Swift Wiki)

[[User:Jsmrcina|Jsmrcina]] ([[User talk:Jsmrcina|talk]]) 15:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

:It says ''Swift's influences include her grandmother and LeAnn Rimes.'' I don't think you read the word ''and''. [[User:Ice Cold Beer|Ice Cold Beer]] ([[User talk:Ice Cold Beer|talk]]) 16:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

;That's funny I thought it said the same thing.- [[User:RudyReis|RudyReis]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 19:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Story behind Tim McGraw ==

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== 2nd Album's first single ==

Taylor confirmed the 2nd album's first single will be Love Story. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.176.11.125|70.176.11.125]] ([[User talk:70.176.11.125|talk]]) 04:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* [[WP:V|Source]]? [[User:Nabudis Shadow|Nabudis Shadow]] ([[User talk:Nabudis Shadow|talk]]) 07:05, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

In the Fearless section, it says "Love Song" instead of "Love Story." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.249.120.243|96.249.120.243]] ([[User talk:96.249.120.243|talk]]) 16:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Jonas Love (?) ==

should we mention that there is rumor going out that [[Joe Jonas]] is going out with Taylor Swift?? we just say that its a rumor! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.140.46.83|72.140.46.83]] ([[User talk:72.140.46.83|talk]]) 21:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* We only put facts in articles, not rumors. [[User:Nabudis Shadow|Nabudis Shadow]] ([[User talk:Nabudis Shadow|talk]]) 01:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
True or not, it should say Swift ONCE dated Joe Jonas not one dated Joe Jonas...

== Fearless Album Info ==

The Taylor Swift album is said to have 11 tracks. I think it would be IMPORTANT to add this info when the "fearless" link is clickable. heres the source for the album: http://justjared.buzznet.com/2008/08/29/taylor-swift-fearless-album-artwork/ <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lala111|Lala111]] ([[User talk:Lala111|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lala111|contribs]]) 23:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Unprotect this page! ==

Protected for nearly one year? Shameful. 19:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Foodmarket|Foodmarket]] ([[User talk:Foodmarket|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Foodmarket|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* If you for whatever reason, feel so strongly against the semi-protection of this page, request [[Wikipedia:RFP#Current_requests_for_unprotection|unprotection]]. [[User:Runefrost|Runefrost]] ([[User talk:Runefrost|talk]]) 21:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== 27-second breakup ==

On 11/11/08, Taylor tells Ellen on the Ellen Degeneres show that Joe Jonas broke up with her in 25 seconds over the phone, not in 27 seconds, as currently stated in the "personal life" section of this post. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Elba827|Elba827]] ([[User talk:Elba827|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Elba827|contribs]]) 15:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* No, I do think it was 27 seconds. [[User:Runefrost|Runefrost]] ([[User talk:Runefrost|talk]]) 02:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

* We have really reached the end of the world if any of what you are debating above actually matters... [[User:Stevenmitchell|Stevenmitchell]] ([[User talk:Stevenmitchell|talk]]) 04:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

First she said "When I find that person that is right for me, he'll be wonderful and when I look at that person, I won't even remember the boy that broke up with me in 25 seconds over the phone" Then she said "I looked at the call log and it said 27 seconds". So she probably rounded it down first. In all the articles and stuff, it says 27 seconds. [[User:Greenguitar3|Greenguitar3]] ([[User talk:Greenguitar3|talk]]) 18:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Bias ==
Some of these sentences don't sound neutral. For example "She '''boldly''' handed this tape to receptionists at every label on Music Row," "her rendition of the national anthem '''completely moved the crowd,'''" etc.
That sounds like it came from a fan writing about her. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.61.115.88|128.61.115.88]] ([[User talk:128.61.115.88|talk]]) 03:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

--its 27 seconds.. on Ellen she says about 25 seconds .. then elaborates and says .i looked at the call log and it said 27 seconds.. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.140.1.106|71.140.1.106]] ([[User talk:71.140.1.106|talk]]) 04:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== New interview may help with research ==

Swift's hometown paper just published an interview:

http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=116460

[[User:Coreymccarty|Coreymccarty]] ([[User talk:Coreymccarty|talk]]) 14:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== Filmography ==

This NEEDS to be added under filmography:



{| class="wikitable" border="1"
|-
! Year
! Title
! Role
|-
| 2007
| "Online" - Brad Paisley Music Video
| Herself

|-
| 2009
| Jonas Brothers: The 3D Concert Experience
| Herself
|}

==editing needed==
Why is the guitar necessary in the part about early life also this sentence is structured horribly 'Taylor Swift was born in Reading, Pennsylvania and lives with her parents, Scott and Andrea, and her brother, Austin,[1] in Nashville, Tennessee. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.234.168.147|71.234.168.147]] ([[User talk:71.234.168.147|talk]]) 01:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:There is absolutely nothing wrong with the sentence about where she was born and with whom she lives. It is clear and grammatical. Your comments above, however, are ungrammatical. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 23:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

It says her grandmother is LeAnn Rhimes....This is NOT true (unless by some miracle a 26 year old is the grandmother of a 19 year old, that would be quite impressive. She was one of her biggest Role Models! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/205.141.129.33|205.141.129.33]] ([[User talk:205.141.129.33|talk]]) 20:47, 3 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It is incredible how people fail to read. You're the second person (at least) to read the information about Rimes incorrectly. It says: "Swift's '''singing influences''' include her grandmother and LeAnn Rimes" (bold added). [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 23:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Piano? ==

In the artist information box, piano is listed as one of her instruments. I have never seen Swift playing piano while performing. If anyone has a picture or video clip please post it here; or we have to delete ''piano'' out of her instruments.

p.s. In a radio talk with Tim McGraw (Taylor Swift (Deluxe Edition) album, Track 15: Taylor's 1st Phone Call With Tim McGraw), she implied that she uses piano when writing songs. However it seems that she never plays a piano live. Does this count? [[User:Fa2f|Fa2f]] ([[User talk:Fa2f|talk]]) 04:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

She plays the piano here is the site with the picture of her playing piano..if you look closly you can see that she is singing and playing the piano.
http://www.cmt.com/sitewide/assets/img/events/2009/acm/show/acm_awards_85814511-x600.jpg

Picture/website copyright www.cmt.com <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Comeon456|Comeon456]] ([[User talk:Comeon456|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Comeon456|contribs]]) 00:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Body by Milk ==

I'm not sure that this is a "charitable" work. I'm not saying it is an unworthy activity, but I can't find any indication that celebrities are not paid for their endorsements. If they are paid, it's not charitable. Does anyone have information that I don't know about? [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 19:34, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree that endorsing a commercial product does not qualify as philanthropy. The "Body by Milk" campaign was Initiated by MilkPEP. MilkPEP's own words: "The Milk Processor Education Program (MilkPEP), Washington, D.C., is funded by the nation's milk processors, who are committed to increasing fluid milk consumption. MilkPEP activities are led by a 15-member board, which is monitored by the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Agricultural Marketing Service." Please note that the nation's milk processors do not claim to be "committed" to the anything other than "increased...consumption".<ref>http://www.milkpep.org/about/about-milkpep/</ref> [[User:Daniel Jansen|Daniel Jansen]] ([[User talk:Daniel Jansen|talk]]) 01:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
*Agreed....I removed it. She has actual philanthropy to cite. This isn't a charity. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 13:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== SNL ==

May want to add that she performed the songs "Love Story" and "Forever and Always" on her SNL appearance.[[User:Fewwiggle|Fewwiggle]] ([[User talk:Fewwiggle|talk]]) 21:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:That's too much detail for this bio page. It's included on the SNL page. I just pipelinked the SNL mention to that specific page. We can't add every song performed in live performances mentioned in the article. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 21:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

==Taylor's Real Age==
Her age is being called into question along with the likes of Akon, J.Lo, and a few others. Her birth date is listed as 1989, but some say she might be in her mid-20s. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.35.75.64|67.35.75.64]] ([[User talk:67.35.75.64|talk]]) 04:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:"Some say" could apply to any one of six billion people on the planet Earth. Do you have a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] (and that does not include tabloids, blogs, or chat pages). Something like the New York Times would be nice. Otherwise, please drop it. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 16:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Add More to Taylor's Filmography Chart ==

You need to add more to the flimography chart:

Title: Role:
Ellen DeGeneres Show Herself
Grammy Nominations Herself
Dick Clark's Rockin' New Tears Eve Herself
CSI TBA

And there are more too but I can't list them all.
([[Special:Contributions/96.249.232.61|96.249.232.61]] ([[User talk:96.249.232.61|talk]]) 22:51, 28 January 2009 (UTC))

:Every television appearance does not go into a filmography. Some bio pages don't include ''any'' TV appearances, only film. But if they are included, they need to be more than just an appearance or performance. If we include every TV appearance in articles, the filmography sections could be far too huge for a typical Wikipedia article. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 23:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

::In addition to what Ward3001 said, filmography and television appearences are two different things. [[User:Kb3mlmsk|Kb3mlmsk]] ([[User talk:Kb3mlmsk|talk]]) 16:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

*Ok, first, as pointed out above, a TV appearence (especially one as yourself) is different than a filmography. Second, everything listed in the filmography chart is mentioned in the television appearences sections. There is no reason to list the same info twice. Which one gets removed? [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 13:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== Taylor Swift's guitar ==

Taylor Swift plays a custom-made [[Taylor Guitars|Taylor]] Grand Auditorium [[acoustic guitar]] (model 914ce) made of [[Acacia koa|koa]] wood. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:The source you cite mentions nothing about "Grand Auditorium" or "model 914ce" in describing her guitar. [[WP:V|The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth]]. Please find a source with those specifics before adding it to the article. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 20:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Email from Taylor Guitar's Public Relations Manager, 9 March 2009:

{{prettyquote|The guitar you are referring to is an all-koa PSGA model which features AA koa top and back, a Florentine cutaway and a “Taylor” fretboard inlay. It is from our Presentation Series (hence “PS”) and is a Grand Auditorium (“GA”) body. It should be referenced as a PSGA (not 914ce).

Taylor Swift also plays several other models of Taylor guitars, her brand of choice. If you need any additional information, please feel free to contact me.}}

[[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 23:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
:An email to you is [[WP:NOR|original research]] and strictly forbidden as a source by Wikipedia policy. I could claim he sent me an email saying she plays a broom, but that doesn't mean it's true. Once again, [[WP:V|the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth]], and that means verifiable by anyone, not just you. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 00:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The same information may be found in the text and box on page 15 of this Taylor publication (it's a PDF file, so may take a few moments to load). Link: http://www.taylorguitars.com/woodandsteel/issues/ws_winter_2009.pdf

The text in the box is as follows:

{{prettyquote|Taylor Swift's two main performance Taylors are her custom,all-koa PSGA (AA koa top, Florentine cutaway, "Taylor" fretboardinlay, passive ES) and a GS8 encrusted with Swarovski crystalsthat was originally decorated for a video shoot. Her other modelsinclude a 615ce, maple PS-LTD with a tobacco sunburst andFlorentine cutaway, a pink T5-S (with flake-top finish), a pair ofK65ce's, a custom maple Dreadnought with the "Living Jewels"koi fish inlay, a PSGA and a black SolidBody Classic.}}

[[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 00:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:That looks like a good source to me, but she uses several guitars, according to the source. We don't need to name every model she uses. I would say name the two identified in the source as the main ones (and "model 914ce" is not one of them), unless you get [[WP:CON|consensus]] here to include all of them. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 01:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Her primary guitar seems to be the koa one. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 01:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
:Which is named in the article now, so need for changes, right? [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 02:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The article should have specificity about this guitar, as it is used as an encyclopedic source by people around the world. Right now it's not specific. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 02:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== Rolling Stone Magazine February 2009 Cover Story on Taylor Swift ==

The Very Pink, Very Perfect Life of Taylor Swift

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/26213623

== bullying ==

i mean the 6th grade <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emily513|Emily513]] ([[User talk:Emily513|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emily513|contribs]]) 19:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Find a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] about it, explain why it's [[WP:N|notable]] enough for an encyclopedia (lots of kids get bullied), and then ''you'' can add it if you properly [[WP:CITE|cite]] your source. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 20:13, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
::I honestly doubt she was ever bullied in the 6th grade. [[User:Emily513|Emily513]] asked the same exact thing in the Demi Lovato article before posting here. [[User:Frehley|<font style="color:Teal;">Frehley</font>]][[User Talk:Frehley|<sup><font style="color:Blue;">Space</font></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Frehley|<sup><font style="color:Blue;">Ace</font></sup>]] 03:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

she and her mom said it on e! true Hollywood story, young Hollywood a to zac. and the reason why it should be post is because she can be a inspiration for kids who got bullied. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emily513|Emily513]] ([[User talk:Emily513|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emily513|contribs]]) 14:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Picture in info-box==
I don't like the picture at all. I'm the only one who thinks she looks more Britney Spears than Taylor Swift in this particular picture?? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Matthewfreile|Matthewfreile]] ([[User talk:Matthewfreile|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Matthewfreile|contribs]]) 16:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Then please find us a non-copyrighted image that is better, post a link to it here, and we'll consider it. And no, she doesn't look like Britney Spears in the pic, regardless of whether it's a good pic or not. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 16:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::i'd hate to be the one to point it out, but the photo in the box at the top left isn't in the public domain, and retains full copyrights (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36703550@N00/1083571693/) . (i.e., it is not creative commons as is assumed). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.33.142.63|173.33.142.63]] ([[User talk:173.33.142.63|talk]]) 19:58, 15 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Endorsements ==
L.E.I., the company she endorses in, is linked to Levi's Company, but the correct page is [[L.e.i._(company)]]. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.238.118.48|99.238.118.48]] ([[User talk:99.238.118.48|talk]]) 23:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Taylor Swift and T-Pain ==

You should put that Taylor Swift and T-Pain are working together to record a track. There are 2 links to it

1. http://blog.cmt.com/2009-06-10/whos-performing-with-taylor-swift/
2. http://blog.cmt.com/2009-06-09/taylor-swift-working-with-t-pain/ <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.249.225.41|96.249.225.41]] ([[User talk:96.249.225.41|talk]]) 22:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Nope. First, blogs are no good as sources here. Second, both links go to the same place. Third, the source says "yesterday I wondered out loud if Taylor Swift and T-Pain were recording a track together, but now it appears that a song might not have necessarily been their main objective". Bad source. Bad link. Bad understanding of English. [[User:Ward3001|Ward3001]] ([[User talk:Ward3001|talk]]) 23:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::They did make a joke track together, but it's not really notable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-yLjQz_BXg <small><span style="border:1px solid darkred;padding:1px;">[[User:AcroX|<font style="color:white;background:darkred;">'''&nbsp;Acro'''</font>]][[User talk:AcroX|<font style="color:silver;background:darkred;">'''X&nbsp;'''</font>]]</span></small> 23:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Associated acts ==

Per [[Template:Infobox_musical_artist#Associated_acts|Associated acts]], Miley Cyrus, Colbie Caillat, and T-Pain should be removed from the associated acts section, as they have only collaborated with Swift once. I will remove them from the section. '''[[User:Pokerdance|Pokerdance]]''' <sup>([[User_talk:Pokerdance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Pokerdance|contribs]])</sup> 22:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

I was hoping that you could change her picture because she looks a bit different.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfmfuseaction=viewImage&friendID=27612962&albumID=341327&imageID=41453298 ,http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/1H/taylor-swift-lg.jpg, http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/taylor_swift_nye.jpg, http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=27612962&albumID=1377263&imageID=43438824, http://vipphoto.ru/idata/11027-0.jpg <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:13taylor|13taylor]] ([[User talk:13taylor|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/13taylor|contribs]]) 02:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Band Hero==

She is going to appear as a playable character in the new [[guitar hero]] spin off [[band hero]]. I didn't see anything about it in this article. --[[User:Superchicken781|Superchicken781]] ([[User talk:Superchicken781|talk]]) 23:55, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:I went ahead and added it. [[User:ShadowUltra|ShadowUltra]] ([[User talk:ShadowUltra|talk]]) 05:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Edit Request ==

{{tlc|editsemiprotected}}

First photo is not Taylor Swift
<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:99.229.86.97|99.229.86.97]] ([[User talk:99.229.86.97|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/99.229.86.97|contribs]]) 04:39, 27 August 2009</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

{{ESp|n}} Welcome and thanks for pointing this out. It seems to be a cropped picture of her. Why do you think it isn't? [[User:Celestra|Celestra]] ([[User talk:Celestra|talk]]) 12:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Birth City ==

I noticed that the article says that Taylor was born in Wyomissing, PA. But on her IMDB page it says she was born in Reading, PA. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kodos84|Kodos84]] ([[User talk:Kodos84|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kodos84|contribs]]) 22:06, 4 September 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Then her IMDB page is wrong. If you watch this video of True Hollywood Story based on Taylor Swift, you'll see that she is actually born in Wyomissing, PA not Reading, PA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9yrtutnHjM&feature=channel I also read in articles that she was born in Wyomissing, PA. IMDB is not always accurate. Anyone with an account can go on and change things. [[User:Greenguitar3|Greenguitar3]] ([[User talk:Greenguitar3|talk]]) 16:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== 12 String Guitar ==
In the article it says that "Swift started writing songs and playing 12-string guitar when she was 12" but there is no evidence to show that this is true. I'm pretty sure that she learned to play a 6 string guitar not 12 string. [[User:Greenguitar3|Greenguitar3]] ([[User talk:Greenguitar3|talk]]) 14:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== Song List ==

There really should be a list of her songs added to the page so it isn't necessary to do a search on here for them. [[Special:Contributions/208.111.243.55|208.111.243.55]] ([[User talk:208.111.243.55|talk]]) 01:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

She is coming out with six new songs reference her Myspace blog. http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=27612962&blogId=508937979


== Queen of Country-Pop music==
is she the Queen of Country-Pop music? or can't we call her like that?--[[Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg|25px]] '''[[User:Solfeo957|·.·´¯`·.·ŜØŁҒ€Ө·.·´¯`·.·]] '''[[Image:Flag_of_Europe.svg|25px]]''''' [[User talk:Solfeo957|°º¤ø,¸ŁĨβЭЯŦĂĐ Ұ ĴŮŚŢĬÇÏÁ°º¤ø,¸]]''''' [[Image:Flag_of_France.svg|25px]] 16:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

There is no evidence that people call her Queen of Country-Pop... And her music genre is Country not Country-pop. And I don't think the title of "Queen of Country-Pop" exists.. [[User:Greenguitar3|Greenguitar3]] ([[User talk:Greenguitar3|talk]]) 01:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
*The folks over at AllMusic seem to think her ''style'' is country pop. From their review of Fearless: "''Like many country-pop albums of the 2000s, the pop heavily outweighs the country''". They list one of her styles as "country pop" in her bio. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 06:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== VMA Awards incident ==
This article mentions that Beyonce was nominated for the 'Best Female Video' award. This is not true. Beyonce was not nominated in this category.[[User:Semajws|Semajws]] ([[User talk:Semajws|talk]]) 19:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the above post. No Beyonce was not nominated for the 'Best Female Video' award. The nominees are Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Lady Gaga and Pink. See attached link. http://www.mtv.com/ontv/vma/2009/best-female-video [[User:Amadao|Amadao]] ([[User talk:Amadao|talk]]) 03:16, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is. She was nominated for her music video "Single Ladies" that's why when Taylor Swift won, Kanye West grabbed the mic and said Beyonce's video was "one of the best videos of all time". [[User:Greenguitar3|Greenguitar3]] ([[User talk:Greenguitar3|talk]]) 19:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

No, it's not true. Beyonce was nominated for (and won) in the category 'Video of the Year.' Taylor Swift was nominated for (and won) in the category 'Best Female Video.' The two are two separate awards, and the distinction is important because Kanye wasn't trying to say that Taylor didn't deserve the award; he was simply acknowledging (in his weird way) that he thought Beyonce's video was great. - 21:22 14 Sept. 2009

wikipedia is STUPIT! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.32.164.58|173.32.164.58]] ([[User talk:173.32.164.58|talk]]) 21:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->{{spa|173.32.164.58}}

About above comment, who wrote that?, that's so unnaceptable for wikipedia! respect wikipedia!
Yes, it's true. If u can remember, beyonce really was nominated for, and another thing, check out 2009 VMA article here in Wikipedia and u'll find that we're right n u're wrong, sorry but that's true.--[[Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg|25px]] '''[[User:Solfeo957|·.·´¯`·.·ŜØŁҒ€Ө·.·´¯`·.·]] '''[[Image:Flag_of_Europe.svg|25px]]''''' [[User talk:Solfeo957|°º¤ø,¸ŁĨβЭЯŦĂĐ Ұ ĴŮŚŢĬÇÏÁ°º¤ø,¸]]''''' [[Image:Flag_of_France.svg|25px]] 03:48, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

While the MTV site suggests Beyonce wasn't nominated, many sources suggest she was. At first I wondered if they were mistaken but in fact if you look at the comments here [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/09/kanye-west-apologizes-to-taylor-swift-.html] it appears it's definite she was nominated and this is clear if you watch the award show. I presume the MTV site is mistaken or perhaps it was removed for some reason relating to this controversy. Regardless while we probably can't source things to the comment section even of a newspaper blog and by the blog owner, we can source, as we should, to all the secondary sources which do say she was nominated [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 14:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Just to clarify for anyone who is unsure, Beyonce was nominated for Best Female Video. [http://www.mtv.com/ontv/vma/2009/best-female-video/ And the MTV site does list her]. [[User:Cliff smith|<font color="blue">'''<font face="georgia">Cliff''' smith</font></font>]] [[User talk:Cliff smith|''<font color="black"><sup>talk</sup></font>'']] 22:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Just a quick note, the site didn't list her earlier hence the earlier confusion from multiple sources. Unfortunately I didn't take a webcite archive so can't prove this but there was definitely only 5 videos listed before [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 14:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== front page ==

i think taylor swift is awsome <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.187.207.136|68.187.207.136]] ([[User talk:68.187.207.136|talk]]) 00:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: That's all great and Imma let you finish but [[Beyonce]] is even more awesome. [[User:Are you ready for IPv6?|Are you ready for IPv6?]] ([[User talk:Are you ready for IPv6?|talk]]) 02:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

== philanthropy ==
I went ahead and moved a big section of philanthropy to personal life. Business agreements and corporate endorsements are not philanthropy. In fact, they don't belong under personal life either. Perhaps they don't even qualify as being important enough to warrant space in an encyclopedia article. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;'''[[user:Jhonkaman|<font color="darkred">Jhonka</font>]]''' 05:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

:We could always create an Endorsements section or combine it with philanthropy under the title Endorsements and philanthropy. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
*I am not real fond of the idea about an endorsements section. I agree with Jhonkaman, most endorsement stuff isn't really encyclopedic. There could be exceptions (some record amount or groundbreaking area) but, in general, most celeb endorsements are just mundane. Now if you're talking something on the level of Michael Jordan and Nike (where it's money and a clothing/shoe line that becomes notable on its own), that might be different. But just getting some cash to use a guitar or make-up commercials isn't that notable to me. [[User:Niteshift36|Niteshift36]] ([[User talk:Niteshift36|talk]]) 04:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:Valid points, Niteshift36. I definitely see where you are coming from on this matter. I was even thinking of big, notable endorsements myself. [[Michael Jordan]] might have even crossed my mind in that moment (I'm not sure anymore that he did, LOL). [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 23:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

==Heritage==


Hey! Does anyone know Taylor's heritage? I've heard she's of Irish descent, but has that been confirmed?

Thanks~



Does anyone know this?

== 2009 Video Music Awards controversy section ==


==Alternative as a genre==
I'm thinking we need to incorporate it back into her Music career section; it just seems out of place down there near the bottom of the article. Yes, [[Miley Cyrus]] and other celebrities have controversies sections here at Wikipedia, but that is often because they have more than one controversy and the substantial information is out of place in their Music career sections. And of course all these controversy sections better left distinguished by titles...unless all are short under the simple title of Controversies like the [[Kanye West]] article.
Should [[alternative music]] be listed as one of her genres even though it is a redirect to a disambiguation page and not to an actual genre. It seems to be redundant to both folk and rock and doesn’t really add anything. [[User:Theparties|Theparties]] ([[User talk:Theparties|talk]]) 22:15, 10 November 2024 (UTC)


:Wikipedia not having an article for "Alternative music" doesn't change the fact that Swift has released two albums that have been described by multiple reliable sources as alternative projects. [[User:Ronherry|'''<span style="font-family:Cursive; color:#47452e; padding: 2px" lang="en">ℛonherry</span>''']][[User talk:Ronherry|'''<span style="color:#c7c39d">☘</span>''']] 09:49, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
To be honest, I am confused about where this information is best placed within the article. Perhaps, we should simply leave it near the bottom of the article but shorten its title to Controversy. Then again, we know that even now, a lot of people who come across this article are looking for information about this topic...which means that the title may be better left distinguished (even though they would eventually fine what they are looking for soon enough). [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 04:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::And yes, disambiguation pages exist for that reason, exactly. [[User:Ronherry|'''<span style="font-family:Cursive; color:#47452e; padding: 2px" lang="en">ℛonherry</span>''']][[User talk:Ronherry|'''<span style="color:#c7c39d">☘</span>''']] 09:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
:::But isn’t it just [[alternative rock]]. It is a bit redundant to list her as both an alternative and a rock artist. Genres she barely even touched. [[User:Theparties|Theparties]] ([[User talk:Theparties|talk]]) 02:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
::::"But isn’t it just alternative rock. It is a bit redundant to list her as both an alternative and a rock artist. Genres she barely even touched." is your personal opinion aka original research. Wikipedia is at the mercy of sources, and in case of music, at the mercy of music critics and consensus. If two of her albums have been labelled "alternative", and have topped Billboard's "Alternative Albums" chart, then yes. Please abstain from [[WP:OR|original research]] and [[WP:STICKTOSOURCE|stick to the sources]]. I suggest reading [[WP:GENREWARRIOR]] too. Regards. [[User:Ronherry|'''<span style="font-family:Cursive; color:#47452e; padding: 2px" lang="en">ℛonherry</span>''']][[User talk:Ronherry|'''<span style="color:#c7c39d">☘</span>''']] 03:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::::If you’re really passionate about this then you can add sources that can prove your claim simply stating that she has been recognized as such by others is not proof. If you look at [[Beyoncé]]’s and [[Adele]]’s articles, there are sources that show which genre they have. It would not be difficult to find a source for Taylor Swift. [[User:Theparties|Theparties]] ([[User talk:Theparties|talk]]) 19:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Also, [[WP:GENREWARRIOR]] applies to you too. [[User:Theparties|Theparties]] ([[User talk:Theparties|talk]]) 19:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::And Billboard charts aren’t necessarily genres but format. Anyway, provide a source and I will stop challenging it. [[User:Theparties|Theparties]] ([[User talk:Theparties|talk]]) 19:24, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::::And while you’re at it, please provide sources on all her genres, her claim as a rock artist is shaky at best. [[User:Theparties|Theparties]] ([[User talk:Theparties|talk]]) 19:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:I think it's worth noting that the sources cited in the body for her "indie and alternative" era are [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/03/10/magazine/taylor-swift.html],[https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03007766.2022.2156761#abstract] and [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07494467.2021.1976586]. None of these look to me like they even use the word "alternative". The McGrath source exclusively calls the albums indie folk, the New York Times source uses only "indie", while the final authors lack mentions of both indie and alternative. [[User:Issan Sumisu|Issan Sumisu]] ([[User talk:Issan Sumisu|talk]]) 20:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)


== "Biographical" songwriting ==
:I was just trying to help because I thought that it isn't directly about her musical accomplishments or failures... so it would better fit in the bottom in a controversy section. If you want to put it back, you are more than welcome to. -- [[User:Ipodnano05|Ipodnano05]] ([[User talk:Ipodnano05|talk]]) 00:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


{{ping|Ronherry}} I'm not refuting Swift's fictional/biographical songs about other people. But Swift is ''known for'' what critics deem "autobiographical" (or confessional) songs. [https://daily.jstor.org/taylor-swift-confessional-poet/ JSTOR], [https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/fearless-how-taylor-swift-is-owning-her-narrative U of Melbourne] are 2 of the academic sources that explicitly say this. [[User:Ippantekina|Ippantekina]] ([[User talk:Ippantekina|talk]]) 05:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for weighing in, Ipodnano05. I knew your reasoning as soon as I saw what you did. You even explained in your edit summary that you were going for a similar look to the Miley Cyrus article with that edit. It is just that I am unsure of which is a better placement for that section. I will probably move it back for now, though. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 01:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2025 ==
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Alternative as a genre

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Should alternative music be listed as one of her genres even though it is a redirect to a disambiguation page and not to an actual genre. It seems to be redundant to both folk and rock and doesn’t really add anything. Theparties (talk) 22:15, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia not having an article for "Alternative music" doesn't change the fact that Swift has released two albums that have been described by multiple reliable sources as alternative projects. ℛonherry 09:49, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yes, disambiguation pages exist for that reason, exactly. ℛonherry 09:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But isn’t it just alternative rock. It is a bit redundant to list her as both an alternative and a rock artist. Genres she barely even touched. Theparties (talk) 02:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"But isn’t it just alternative rock. It is a bit redundant to list her as both an alternative and a rock artist. Genres she barely even touched." is your personal opinion aka original research. Wikipedia is at the mercy of sources, and in case of music, at the mercy of music critics and consensus. If two of her albums have been labelled "alternative", and have topped Billboard's "Alternative Albums" chart, then yes. Please abstain from original research and stick to the sources. I suggest reading WP:GENREWARRIOR too. Regards. ℛonherry 03:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you’re really passionate about this then you can add sources that can prove your claim simply stating that she has been recognized as such by others is not proof. If you look at Beyoncé’s and Adele’s articles, there are sources that show which genre they have. It would not be difficult to find a source for Taylor Swift. Theparties (talk) 19:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, WP:GENREWARRIOR applies to you too. Theparties (talk) 19:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And Billboard charts aren’t necessarily genres but format. Anyway, provide a source and I will stop challenging it. Theparties (talk) 19:24, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And while you’re at it, please provide sources on all her genres, her claim as a rock artist is shaky at best. Theparties (talk) 19:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's worth noting that the sources cited in the body for her "indie and alternative" era are [1],[2] and [3]. None of these look to me like they even use the word "alternative". The McGrath source exclusively calls the albums indie folk, the New York Times source uses only "indie", while the final authors lack mentions of both indie and alternative. Issan Sumisu (talk) 20:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Biographical" songwriting

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@Ronherry: I'm not refuting Swift's fictional/biographical songs about other people. But Swift is known for what critics deem "autobiographical" (or confessional) songs. JSTOR, U of Melbourne are 2 of the academic sources that explicitly say this. Ippantekina (talk) 05:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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