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= December 9 =
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== Windows Diagnostic Memory tool ==
{{Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Computing/2009 October 13}}


How long would you expect it to take to do 96GB RAM? I heard an hour per 8GB—sound reasonable? [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 18:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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:That guy was a fucking idiot. Took less than two hours. [[User talk:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]'' 11:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
::This conversation makes no sense. Care to elaborate, @[[User:Serial Number 54129|Serial Number 54129]]? <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"> <span style="color:ForestGreen;font-size:15px"> [[W:EN:User:TheTechie|<span style="color:#803280">TheTechie@enwiki</span>]]</span> (<span style="color:#324c80">she/they</span> {{pipe}} [[User talk:TheTechie|<span style="color:rgb(90,50,128)">talk</span>]]) </span> 04:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|TheTechie}} Serial Number 54129 asked how long it would take to run Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool on a pc with 96GB RAM. They heard it took an hour per 8GB, so that would be 12 hours for 96GB. Then they say that they tried it and that it took less than 2 hours. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 15:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks {{u|Polygnotus}} . I admit I was somewhat brusque about my informant :) [[User:Serial Number 54129|<b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129|<b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b>]]''[[User talk:Serial_Number_54129|<sup><span style="color:#7a0427;">A New Face in Hell</span></sup>]] 16:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)


= October 15 =
= December 10 =


== Youtube videos switching in the middle to Chinese people doing ordinary things ==
== Length of address ==


I see that others are encountering the same problem.[https://community.roku.com/t5/Channels-viewing/YouTube-Chinese-interference/td-p/958096/page/2] Has anybody come up with a fix yet? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 05:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Is there a technical limitation to the length of an email address or URL? <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


:To avoid videos with crocheting Chinese ladies and such – if that's not your thing – make sure the video is from the original channel and not some pirated and hacked video. The name of the channel (such as Eyewitness News ABC7NY, Jimmy Kimmel Live, ESPN MBL, ...) is given below the title of the video. Pirated videos come from an unfamiliar channel; other than that, everything looks the same as the legit video. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 07:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:Per RFC 3986, "should limit these names to no more than 255 characters in length." [http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt] I don't know what would happen if you had more than 255 characters. ---'''''—&nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue">&nbsp;'''''</span><sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|''talk'']]</sup> 00:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::That's referring to the DNS machine name. I don't think there's any defined limit on URL length. An HTML form with method GET works by appending all of the form data to the URL, which can make extremely long URLs. Various browsers and servers impose randomly-chosen limits, though (possibly outdated list [http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/misc/urllength.html here]). RFC 5321 limits the local part of an email address (before the @) to 64 octets and the domain part (after the @) to 255 octets. -- [[User:BenRG|BenRG]] ([[User talk:BenRG|talk]]) 10:14, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


::Aaah, thanks. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== Flash ==


= December 11 =
Is there a way to view the text file of Flash files? [[User:Jc iindyysgvxc|<em style="font-family:Courier New;color:red">jc</em>]] [[User talk:Jc iindyysgvxc|<em style="font-family:Courier New;color:green">iindyysgvxc</em>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Jc iindyysgvxc|my contributions]]) 01:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:Are you talking about the source code? Most flash source files are in the .fla format, which isn't text, but binary (zeros and ones). You need a flash decompiler to get those files. Some people use Flex, which is plain-text XML that you compile into Flash. But most of the time, you work on .fla files and sometimes .as files (which are plain text, but don't work without a .fla file). You need Adobe Flash Professional to open .fla files, by the way.--[[User:Drknkn|Drknkn]] ([[User talk:Drknkn|talk]]) 01:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


== What happened to the doppler loop radar gadgets on igoogle? ==
== Quote marks will not appear until I type a second one ==


Hello all. I have a seemingly one-off, weird and annoying issue. I am using an HP laptop computer:
I've had a doppler loop radar gadget (or widget, if the term is preferable) on my igoogle page for months until today,centered on my hometown. Suddenly, it no longer worked as of today. As a result, I went searching for another one and either a) The gadget has been disabled and is no longer available or b) It is not a true loop radar display that shows the progression of rain etc. but rather a static display that updates perhaps every hour if I hit "refresh." Anyone else having this problem? Any explanations? Any solutions other than the NWS site? I loved having that gadget on my igoogle page!--[[User:Myersdtm|Myersdtm]] ([[User talk:Myersdtm|talk]]) 03:04, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
:System Model HP Spectre x360 Convertible
:Version 10.0.19045
:Build 19045
Every time I type a quote mark on this computer (or an apostrophe using the same keyboard key without shifting) nothing happens. It is only when I invoke the character key a ''second time'' (in a row, without moving the cursor) that anything happens, which is that, only then, TWO quote marks appear. I then I have to delete one of them. Same thing for apostrophes, though I use quotes far more frequently. This happens anywhere I attempt to type the character, including when I placed this one " right now. Please note that the key is not gummed up or anything, it always works to place the two after I type the character the second time. Any ideas?
--[[Special:Contributions/68.129.153.226|68.129.153.226]] ([[User talk:68.129.153.226|talk]]) 17:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:When did this start happening? Has it always been like this? If not, what changed? Be honest. [[User:MinorProphet|MinorProphet]] ([[User talk:MinorProphet|talk]]) 20:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::My 13-year old Mac Mini has stopped working. (I have already purchased a new computer, arriving in about two weeks.) I thus borrowed this HP from my sister a week ago, whereupon I discovered this issue. I thus have no idea of the timeline of the problem.--[[Special:Contributions/68.129.153.226|68.129.153.226]] ([[User talk:68.129.153.226|talk]]) 21:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
: What happens if you type a single <TT>'</tt> or <TT>"</tt>, followed by some other character, like a letter?
: It sounds like you're in some strange mode which is attempting to interpret various multi-keystroke sequences. Those can be perfectly ordinary — for example, as you may know, on a Mac you can type Option-U to get a bare umlaut, which when you then type a letter like A or U combines with it to form Ä or Ü. But obviously these " and ' sequences you're encountering are bizarre and unwanted! (I've never heard of combining sequences starting with " or ', either.)
: My guess is that these sequences are defined for the convenience of typists in some language other than English. I would go to the relevant control panel — perhaps "Keyboard", although under Windows I'm not sure — and make sure you've got English specified as your language, with no funny extra options specified. —[[User:scs|scs]] ([[User talk:scs|talk]]) 22:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::: Per the below, it sounds like you might well see different behavior depending on whether you type the " or ' followed by a vowel like A or U, versus a consonant like B or S. —[[User:scs|scs]] ([[User talk:scs|talk]]) 22:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::Yes you're right. When you're on the international keyboard (or other non-English one) if you type a quote and then a vowel you get an umlaut. With this keyboard layout the first time you press a quote key it will not type it, and you have to press it twice to type a quote.
::On Windows 10, on the bottom right, to the left of the date and time, there is an area where you can click to change the keyboard layout. For the international keyboard it is "ENG INTL". If you click it you can change to the normal keyboard, "ENG" or "ENG US" or whatever you prefer. ―<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 22:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::See [[dead key]]. I suppose your system is configured to see ' and " as dead keys, producing no direct output, but combining with the next character you type to create a letter with [[acute accent]] or [[two dots (diacritic)|two dots]]. I haven't used Windows since XP days, but I suppose that if the following character doesn't accept those diacritics, the ' or " is inserted after all. Try switching to a different keyboard layout. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 10:37, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


: Have you tried a {{key|"|space}} sequence? I've seen such behavior of a keyboard in Windows when working in a language with diacritic letters. It simulates old typewriter - hit a diacritic symbol first, which gets printed with no carriage move, then hit a letter, which gets printed at the same place and then a carriage advances to a next position. Following this mode you hit a diacritic + space sequence to get a diacritic symbol alone. --[[User:CiaPan|CiaPan]] ([[User talk:CiaPan|talk]]) 15:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
== Online translators for long documents? ==


Does anyone know where I can find Online translators for long documents? Google and babelfish only translate a certain portion of long websites. --[[User:Gary123|Gary123]] ([[User talk:Gary123|talk]]) 03:19, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::Well, 68.129.153.226, we're all agog to know whether any of our suggestions have worked. Be honest. [[User:MinorProphet|MinorProphet]] ([[User talk:MinorProphet|talk]]) 17:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:I am on Windows 10 on Dell laptop. I have experienced this behavior and I suspect it started after some OS update.
:But note that, when you wish to include anything in double/single quote, you must continue to type as usual. The double/single quote becomes visible only after you type '''any''' following character (not just single/double quote).
:You may be already aware of it, but I thought if you don't know, it will be less frustrating experience once you know how it works. [[User:Ranemanoj|manya]] ([[User talk:Ranemanoj|talk]]) 06:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 13 =
:Google developed its own translator, but Yahoo apparently licensed [http://www.systransoft.com/translation-products/desktop/yahoo Systran] software, which offers paid home versions; maybe those would work with longer web pages. A clumsy workaround could be that you could view the source of the web page and split it up yourself into 3 (or 5, or 100) equal parts, and then post those pages yourself on your own website, perhaps hosted by [http://sites.google.com sites.google.com], for your own personal use. View with the translator websites that you already know about, then delete them after you've viewed the translated pages. [[User:Comet Tuttle|Comet Tuttle]] ([[User talk:Comet Tuttle|talk]]) 18:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


== Where can I find a thesis of recently released Gemini 2.0? ==
== Is it possible to navigate NYT.com without registering? ==


For [https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-gemini-next-generation-model-february-2024/ Gemini 1.5], I find its [[arxiv:2403.05530|thesis]].
This is a deceptively difficult question --


What about recently released [https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/google-gemini-ai-update-december-2024/ Gemini 2.0]? [[User:HarryOrange|HarryOrange]] ([[User talk:HarryOrange|talk]]) 21:53, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
You know how when you access NYT.com articles through news.google.com, you aren't asked for your password; but when you access the same article through the NYT.com site, you're asked for your password?


:[https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/google-gemini-ai-update-december-2024/ Here]? &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 21:55, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm not a techie, but I assume this is because news.google.com generates a special hyperlink which NYT.com recognizes and so grants access without a password.
::OK That's Gemini 2.0 release information. [[User:HarryOrange|HarryOrange]] ([[User talk:HarryOrange|talk]]) 16:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 15 =
If this is true, it must be possible to write a Firefox extension or greasemonkey script that permits the following: you browse the NYT.com site directly, and when you click on the link to the article, it replaces the link with the news.google.com version of the link, and then you can get in without registering.


==Questions About New Laptop Computer==
And if it POSSIBLE, then it must have been done.
My old laptop computer developed problems with the power, so that it wouldn't start when connected to regular line current. It would start when connected to high-amperage current in an electronics store, but that wasn't useful, and it was time to replace it after five years. I now have some questions about problems with a new laptop computer. The new laptop computer is an HP running Windows 11. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 04:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
===Cursor Jumping Randomly===
Sometimes when I am typing in a Word document or editing Wikipedia in a source window, I discover that the cursor isn't where I think it should be. The cursor has jumped to somewhere else on the screen, apparently randomly. I have to do a Ctrl-Z to undo what I typed in the wrong place, and then move the cursor back to where I want it. If this is caused by line noise, how do I minimize the impact? How likely is that a new mouse would resolve the problem? Are there any settings that I should diddle with?
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 04:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


My question is, Where do I find it? [[User:Agradman|Andrew Gradman]]&nbsp;<small><sup>[[User talk:Agradman|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[WP:Hornbook]]</sub></small> 03:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:First thing I would do is give the mouse and mousepad a good clean and disconnect and reconnect it. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 09:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:Possibly due to your hand brushing the trackpad while typing. If you have a mouse, you could experiment with disabling the trackpad: [https://www.technewstoday.com/how-to-disable-touchpad-on-hp-laptop/ how to disable touchpad on hp laptop]. Or even just try turning it off while typing. This erratic [[wikt:caret|caret]] jumping used to happen to me a lot, too, when my laptop was new, until I found the key to disable the trackpad.
:The term ''caret'' or ''insertion point'' is useful to exclude the mouse cursor (the pointer) from searches. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 12:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you, [[User:Card Zero]]. I disabled the touchpad. For users who always use a mouse, the touchpad is a complication. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 19:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I now have a possibly useless question. The documentation referred to an option that disables the touchpad when there is a mouse, but the only option that I found in the settings is the option that always disables the touchpad. I would like to specify that the touchpad is disabled when there is a mouse, and enable it if there is no mouse. This makes very little difference because I will always use a mouse. Is it possible that that option isn't available on my computer? This isn't important. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 02:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)


===Network File Sharing===
:It appears that it's checking the HTTP Referer: header to see if it comes from news.google.com. You could install the [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/953 RefControl] extension and tell it to send <tt><nowiki>http://news.google.com/news/search</nowiki></tt> to <tt>www.nytimes.com</tt>. -- [[User:BenRG|BenRG]] ([[User talk:BenRG|talk]]) 10:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
With the old laptop, I had set up network file sharing, so that the laptop computer could view and edit files in shared folders on my desktop computer, a Dell, also running Windows 11, if they were both within range of my wireless router (and the desktop computer always is). The desktop computer could also access files in shared folders on the laptop, if the laptop was I have tried to set up network file sharing with the new laptop computer. I tried calling the technical support offered by the electronics chain that I bought the computers from, and I made seven calls to them, none of which worked, and I have concluded that their technical support people don't know what they are doing, and, worse, don't know the limits of their knowledge. Does anyone have advice on a book that will tell me how to set up network file sharing with Windows 11, that has neither too little nor too much information for a retired database engineer?
:Another option is to use http://bugmenot.com. --[[User:TotoBaggins|Sean]] 13:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 04:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


:@[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] Did you try [https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/file-sharing-over-a-network-in-windows-b58704b2-f53a-4b82-7bc1-80f9994725bf this]? <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"> <span style="color:ForestGreen;font-size:15px"> [[W:EN:User:TheTechie|<span style="color:#803280">TheTechie@enwiki</span>]]</span> (<span style="color:#324c80">she/they</span> {{pipe}} [[User talk:TheTechie|<span style="color:rgb(90,50,128)">talk</span>]]) </span> 20:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
== Powerpoint runs, but can't find my monitor. Seriously. ==
::[[User:TheTechie]] - Thank you. That describes the basics, and describes what I had done successfully with the previous laptop computer. I need either a much greater level of detail, or a troubleshooting guide, or something like that. That was helpful in that it doesn't point out anything that I am doing wrong. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 02:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 19 =
Yesterday I developed this bizarre new problem: Powerpoint (2003) runs, but appears to be running in some other display space. Keyboard commands work, but I can't see anything. I can switch between applications, bring Powerpoint into focus, and even pull down menus... but I can't see the Powerpoint window other than those menus. The slideshow mode works fine, however. On starting Powerpoint, the splash screen flashes on for a fraction of a second, and then vanishes off into its mystery display space.


==Scanning all available streams==
A picture illustrates the problem. Here's Powerpoint running and in focus (note that it is highlighted on the taskbar) As you see, I can pull down menus by using the appropriate key combinations; note that all menus start at the top left of the screen (ordinarily the menu shown here would be docked to the top menu bar somewhere in the top middle of the screen): [http://tinypic.com/r/9jlid5/4]


Hello there. I'm have a question: How to scan all available online streams from a specified server and port given? For example, I've found a Wowza Streaming Engine server at 115.79.46.164 and port 1935. I want to know which website or software can help me to find all active streams on this server. Thanks for reading. [[User:Ccv2020|Ccv2020]] ([[User talk:Ccv2020|talk]]) 14:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
I have in the last week or so been using an external monitor (attached to my Thinkpad laptop) with the Windows desktop extended onto it. That has always worked fine. It is not connected now, and the Display settings show it not to be connected. I have rebooted a number of times since then. I do not have this problem with any other application (Word and Excel are perfectly fine).


: [[nmap]] -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]]'''··–·'''[[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 17:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm on Win XP SP2, Office 2003. Unfortunately, I bought this computer over 5 years ago and have moved a number of times since; I no longer have an Office installation CD.


== .kp domains ==
Any comments or hints would be very welcome! thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.0.45.43|24.0.45.43]] ([[User talk:24.0.45.43|talk]]) 03:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


How many .kp domains are there? [[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]] ([[User talk:Gnu779|talk]]) 13:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:Sounds like it just got moved off your screen. There is a Windows keyboard shortcut to force the active window to slide into the main viewable screen. I don't know what it is (since I haven't used Windows in about 15 years). If you Google for that shortcut (or someone here knows it), I think it will make your window appear where you expect it to be. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 03:57, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:Did you see [[.kp#Existing_and_externally_accessible_domain_list]]? [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 19:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:https://www.northkoreatech.org/the-north-korean-website-list/ is a bit outdated but has more background info. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 19:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::It's ok, bro. I can still view the outdated ones with the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive. Thanks, [[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]] ([[User talk:Gnu779|talk]]) 16:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


::Press Alt+Space, then select Move. Press an arrow key on the keyboard to attach the window to the mouse pointer. Move the mouse (or use the arrow keys) to position the window, then click the mouse (or press Enter) to drop the window where you want it. --[[User:Bavi H|Bavi H]] ([[User talk:Bavi H|talk]]) 04:08, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


= December 23 =
::: Nice. That was it exactly, but I couldn't for the life of me find it. Thank you both! [[Special:Contributions/24.0.45.43|24.0.45.43]] ([[User talk:24.0.45.43|talk]]) 04:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:Google for an application called "Pitaschio". It has many nifty features (including making your desktop icons appear as a list). One of the features it has is "place window only on screen" which doesn't allow any edge of any window to leave the boundaries of the screen. (It's annoying with multiple monitors though, it won't let a window straddle the two monitors. [[User Talk:Zunaid|Zunaid]] 19:57, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

==How can I record a landline phone call using my PC?==

It is legal to record certain phone calls where I live. So. Is there software or a device I can use to record calls made to or from my landline using my PC? [[Special:Contributions/207.216.177.88|207.216.177.88]] ([[User talk:207.216.177.88|talk]]) 06:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

:I ''think'' you can do that with a [[modem#Voice_modem|Voice Modem]] and the appropriate software. Other hardware will also let you do it (again with [[call recording software]]. If you're looking for a commercial product designed to do exactly what you want, they exist. I found [http://www.telephonecallrecorder.com/phone-basic-p-50.html?osCsid=492be51f9253518fc407578c7ec0e602 this one] by searching Google for ''phone conversation recorders'' (I know nothing about this product, it's just the first one I found). Many of the results don't involve your PC, but some do. &ndash;[[User:Rholton|RHolton]][[User talk:Rholton|<b><font size="3">≡</font></b>]]&ndash; 11:27, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

:I have something very small and simple (no batteries etc) that plugs between the phone line and the telephone, with a small 'jack' that can plug into a tape recorder or the audio socket of a computer. Cost about £1. [[Special:Contributions/92.29.118.227|92.29.118.227]] ([[User talk:92.29.118.227|talk]]) 11:58, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

== Online game lagging ==

Is there any way ISP's can fix this by providing more bandwidth?[[User:Accdude92|Accdude92]] ([[User talk:Accdude92|talk]]) ([[User:Accdude92/guestbook|sign]]) 13:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:"Lag" can be caused by many things, including network latency, game server compute-overload, your CPU or graphics card overload, etc. If network latency (specifically, between your system and the server) is the bottleneck, then increasing the bandwidth from your ISP might reduce the lag that you experience. Whether this is possible depends on the technical and economic situation of your ISP in your area. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 13:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

::You can't always reduce latency by increasing bandwidth. If a network link is congested (too busy), then increasing bandwidth will reduce latency. But if you're just trying to communicate with a server on the other side of the planet, all the bandwidth in the world will not bring your latency down -- the speed of light is your foe, not congestion. --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]] ([[User talk:Fubar Obfusco|talk]]) 17:02, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

: "Lag" is a kinda fuzzy term - "Bandwidth" and "Latency" are better precisely because their meanings don't overlap. Consider, for example, if you want to send a LOT of data to a friend on the other side of town. You could send it over the Internet - or you could write it onto a bunch of memory cards, put them into the back of your car - and drive over to your friends house. Now - the amount of data you can cram into the back of your car in micro-xD memory cards is spectacular - a petabyte maybe. The amount of time it would take to send a petabyte over the Internet would be measured in years! So the '''bandwidth''' of your car is vastly better than the Internet. But the '''latency''' of your car is awful - it takes half an hour to get across town even if you only need to send one byte! So if you want to send a 10 line email - then, because the latency, the Internet is a better choice. (See: [[Sneakernet]] and a real-world experiment to prove that a carrier pidgeon with a memory stick strapped to it's leg had better bandwidth than the [[Telkom]] ISP!)
: The amount of "Lag" in the system is composed in part by a lack of bandwidth and in part by too much latency. When you are waiting for (say) a movie to download - then certainly a lack of bandwidth is the most likely reason it's lagging your expectations. But if you clicked on a link to a small page on a (mostly) text-only web site like the one you're reading now - then any lag is most likely due to a latency - and increasing the available bandwidth probably wouldn't help much...just as carrying that 10 line email across town isn't going to go any quicker if you drive it there in your car - or in an 18 wheel truck - because while the truck has much better bandwidth than your car - it's irrelevent because they both have the same horrible latency.
: <small>"''Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.''" —Tanenbaum</small>
:[[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 14:17, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== What to do with a Toshiba Satellite 105CS? ==

I've recently been given a Toshiba Satellite 105CS. This is a very old laptop: Pentium 75Mhz, 16Kb cache, 500 Mb hard drive, no CD, 1 3.5" floppy drive, and only 8 MB of RAM (not a typo; 8192 kilobytes!). There's also no OS installed. There is a dual PC card slot, and I received with it a 28.8 kbps FAX/modem card.

I'm scratching my head about what to do with this beast '''without spending money'''. Yes, I could trash/recycle it, but I'd rather try to do something useful or fun. I'd love to learn to work with a flavor of Linux (I worked with MS-DOS and lived through Win3.1, Win95, Win98, Win2K, WinXP. Before DOS I worked with [[RT-11]] and even [[CP/M]]). However, I have available a floppy-based install for MS-DOS 6.22, and a CD for Win2K that I'm not currently using. I may even have an old Win98 installation. And I have the (increasing rare) PC with a 3.5 floppy, so I can write to those. And, of course, access to the Internet.

Any suggestions? &ndash;[[User:Rholton|RHolton]][[User talk:Rholton|<b><font size="3">≡</font></b>]]&ndash; 13:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:[[NetBSD]][http://www.netbsd.org/] should run on that processor/memory setup[http://www.netbsd.org/ports/i386/hardware.html]; it will boot from a floppy, though the laptop hardware may not be supported. The low memory looks like being a problem for most other Unix-like OSes: FreeBSD[http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html#NEED-TO-RUN], DSL[http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/], Gentoo[http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=2#doc_chap1] and Devil[http://www.devil-linux.org/product/system.php] seem to need more RAM. I'm sure other people know more, though. --[[User:Nigelpackham|Nigelpackham]] ([[User talk:Nigelpackham|talk]]) 14:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

::First, I would try it with the DOS 6.22. That should let you check the components still work. Alternatively, you could try some Linux installs but you would need to get them copied to a floppy disk somehow. How about looking for CP/M stuff on eBay? [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] ([[User talk:Astronaut|talk]]) 09:42, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:I do not know if MenuetOS would work, but it is incredibly small at 61kb. See http://www.goosee.com/menuetos/index.html and the [[MenuetOS]] article. See also the Floppy Disk Distributions listed at [[Mini Linux]]; and also [[BasicLinux]]
. [[Special:Contributions/78.147.27.136|78.147.27.136]] ([[User talk:78.147.27.136|talk]]) 13:08, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
: Once you've got an OS on it, laptops make great photoframes, especially one with 500Meg HDD. [[User_talk:Josh Parris|Josh Parris]] 20:57, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Web bots ==

How hard is it to lean how to make one?[[User:Accdude92|Accdude92]] ([[User talk:Accdude92|talk]]) ([[User:Accdude92/guestbook|sign]]) 13:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:You typically need to know a [[programming language]] - preferably one that has convenient standard libraries for working with web-based data (such as [[perl]], or [[Java (programming language)|Java]], but many others are also suitable). You need to know something about the technical structure of [[HTML]] (and often [[XML]]); and you should know something about the technical structure of [[HTTP]] and the way that [[web server]] software handles requests. If you have no specific task in mind yet, these articles will probably be the best places to start. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 13:55, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, what language should I begin? Ie, what is the easiest to learn?[[User:Accdude92|Accdude92]] ([[User talk:Accdude92|talk]]) ([[User:Accdude92/guestbook|sign]]) 14:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

:::It depends on what you want to do, but a scripting language like [[perl]] or [[python]] or [[PHP]] are all easily adaptable to making web bots without a huge amount of programming knowledge. They also have libraries that make certain tasks easier (e.g. PHP has [http://sourceforge.net/projects/snoopy/ Snoopy] which lets you really easily simulate browser activity without having to really get into the nitty-gritty of forming your own HTTP headers from scratch). --[[User:Mr.98|Mr.98]] ([[User talk:Mr.98|talk]]) 14:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

== Modern War Simulator ==

Is there any Modern War Simulator wich allows the player to control veichles, infarny and jet-planes, and has a campaign map like in Imperial Glory? --[[Special:Contributions/81.227.64.69|81.227.64.69]] ([[User talk:81.227.64.69|talk]]) 15:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:[[Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots]] is a few years old but still fun in multiplayer or solo mode. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 16:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

[[World In Conflict]] is an [[Real-time strategy]] modern war simulation where you can control vehicles, infantry, helicopters, and artillery (as well as a number of off-map units such as longer range artillery and planes (and the odd nuke!)), but I don't know how it compares to Imperial Glory in terms of similarity. It's one of my current favourite games, anyway (as will probably have been noticed by regular readers here!). --[[User:KageTora|KageTora - SPQW - (影虎)]] ([[User talk:KageTora|talk]]) 16:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

(EDIT) What I can say is that there is no campaign map ''per se'', and the player basically just follows a series of scenarios to make up a story. --[[User:KageTora|KageTora - SPQW - (影虎)]] ([[User talk:KageTora|talk]]) 16:43, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

The open source [[Warzone 2100]] is fun, even if it's aging and the pathfinding AI is a bit thick. [[User:CaptainVindaloo|CaptainVindaloo]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainVindaloo|t]] [[Special:Contributions/CaptainVindaloo|c]] [[Special:Emailuser/CaptainVindaloo|e]]</sup> 17:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I highly, highly, highly recommend [[Advance Wars: Days of Ruin]]. Honestly, no joke, it is my favorite game of all time. If you have access to a DS, you must play this game. [[Special:Contributions/198.188.150.115|198.188.150.115]] ([[User talk:198.188.150.115|talk]]) 06:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Who owns ErdUndoCache? ==
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This directory, <code>C:\ErdUndoCache</code> (on a windows system, obviously) hold a lot of "stuff" on my system, which I'd like to clean up, and I can't figure out which application owns & operates it. Google searches for ErdUndoCache bury me in pages of HiJackThis logs, which make no sense.

My feeling is that it's one of the spyware scanner vaults, but I can't determine which one. SuperAntiSpyware, for example, has a Manage Quarantines feature, but deleting old quarantines doesn't seem to affect ErdUndoCache. Malwarebyte's product doesn't seem to have a quarantine manager or management feature. I'm pretty sure it's not AVG's vault, because a couple of lines above ErdUndoCache in windows explorer, there's a $AVG8.VAULT$.

So, who knows more than I do about this? --[[User:DaHorsesMouth|DaHorsesMouth]] ([[User talk:DaHorsesMouth|talk]]) 21:39, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

:ERDUNDOCACHE is apparently created when you make an Emergency Repair Diskette in Windows and is a bunch of settings of a previous version of your computer (created at some point in the past). It doesn't have any active role though, so if you want, you can get rid of it. [http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/2004/s1509/40s09/40s09.asp&articleid=21531&guid= So says this page] (which I found by Google ERDUNDO by itself). --[[User:Mr.98|Mr.98]] ([[User talk:Mr.98|talk]]) 00:04, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

::Good job on that. Take a break, get a fresh cup of coffee -- you earned it! --[[User:DaHorsesMouth|DaHorsesMouth]] ([[User talk:DaHorsesMouth|talk]]) 01:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

= October 16 =

== Cheapest pocket 'computer' ==

What would be the cheapest pocket-sized or less self-contained computing device? Some constraints: it must 1) have some kind of alpha-numeric keyboard - a touch-screen keyboard might do. 2) have a display that can at least show text and numbers. 3) have some high level programming language 4) be able to save data or programs 5) be able to trabsfer data and programs to and from a computer. Thanks. (As paper LCDs are now possible, I hope that one day soon it will soon be possible to buy a pocket computer for a few pounds or dollars.) [[Special:Contributions/78.151.92.101|78.151.92.101]] ([[User talk:78.151.92.101|talk]]) 00:25, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:Off the shelf - a used PDA would probably fit the bill. A high-end graphing calculator. An Android-based cellphone maybe. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 01:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

: Personally, I'm still waiting for my [[OpenPandora]]. Graphing calculators like the TI-92 sell used for under $40 on ebay. They've got a weird form factor, though. You might go for an older PalmOS machine. They don't come native with built-in programming tools, but you can get C compilers and stuff. [[User:APL|APL]] ([[User talk:APL|talk]]) 23:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== wget and cURL - can the links they follow be specified? ==

I would like to use one of the these to download a series of pages connected by "next page" links only, and not to follow any other of the links on the pages. Is there any way of getting them to do this please? [[Special:Contributions/78.151.92.101|78.151.92.101]] ([[User talk:78.151.92.101|talk]]) 00:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Looking to build a budget gaming computer, are these parts OK? ==

I'm OK with software, but I know nothing at all about hardware, so when I decided to build a computer I was forced to turn to the Internet. Off a suggested parts list for a budget gaming computer, I got most of the following parts, although a few were no longer available so I had to try to find an alternative. Again, I freely admit that I know very little about the finer points of hardware (although I'm trying to pick up a few things!), so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Case: [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119208 COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKRK-GP Black Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 460W Power Supply - Retail]

Motherboard: [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186150 Foxconn A7DA-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail]

Processor: [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103678&Tpk=AMD%20Athlon%20X2%207850 AMD Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition Kuma 2.8GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core Processor - Retail]

Memory: [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220227 Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC24G6400ELK - Retail]

Video card: [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130395 EVGA 01G-P3-N959-TR GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail ]

Hard drive: [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320 Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ]

Optical drive: [http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280340586075 SAMSUNG SH-S223Q LIGHTSCRIBE DVD±RW DVD-MULTI 22x S-ATA]

If I've missed anything vital (I already have speakers, a mouse, keyboard, etc.), please mention it as well, as this is the first computer I've ever seriously considered building. Any advice or explanation about the building process would also be appreciated. Also, I'm planning on getting Windows 7 when it comes out- what version of it will I need to get? Oh, and the budget I was trying to stay within was about $700, although I could stretch farther if absolutely necessary. Thanks for the help! [[Special:Contributions/24.247.163.175|24.247.163.175]] ([[User talk:24.247.163.175|talk]]) 01:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Parts look OK, except that you should get a minimum of a 9600GT for a 'gaming' computer. This will need a slightly better power supply - about 600W should be OK. Memory is fine (4G) and I can't comment on the AMD components as I prefer Intel... but they should be fine (dual core). [[User:Sandman30s|Sandman30s]] ([[User talk:Sandman30s|talk]]) 09:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::A good 460W power supply would give more then enough headroom for that computer, even with the 9600GT. [http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3075&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=210] [http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6] [http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3413] [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 11:49, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:::(this is the OP, just on a different computer now!) So if I were to switch out that card for [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130360&Tpk=EVGA%209600%20gt this] one, it should be good? [[Special:Contributions/204.38.47.171|204.38.47.171]] ([[User talk:204.38.47.171|talk]]) 17:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== TI Basic vs. Python ==

I'm translating a TI-89 Basic program into Python, and I'm wondering... is there a Python equivalent of TI-Basic's "cycle" command? --Lucas Brown 42 03:38, 16 October 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lucas Brown 42|Lucas Brown 42]] ([[User talk:Lucas Brown 42|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lucas Brown 42|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[http://docs.python.org/tutorial/controlflow.html "continue"] [[User:Rckrone|Rckrone]] ([[User talk:Rckrone|talk]]) 04:49, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Consequences of opening a port ==

Hello, tech-savvy Wikipedians! I wanted to open a port through my laptop's firewall so that the parents' computer in another city can establish a connection over the Internet to my laptop and send data back and forth. However, I am not aware of the security risks of opening a port. So my questions are 1. How does opening a port affect the security of my system? and 2. What steps can I take to let my parents' computer in while keeping the "bad guys" out? Thank you!--[[User:El aprendelenguas|el '''Apre'''l]] (<sup>[[Special:Contributions/El aprendelenguas|facta]]</sup>-<sub>[[User talk:El aprendelenguas|facienda]]</sub>) 04:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:It depends entirely on (1) what port you're talking about, (2) what program will listen on the port, and (3) the settings for the program.--[[User:Drknkn|Drknkn]] ([[User talk:Drknkn|talk]]) 07:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

::I will make a Java program that listens on the port. Does that mean I can explicitly control what computers can establish a connection with mine by using a password, for instance, or a <code>long</code> that holds an identification value in the program? Then, does that mean as long as my Java program isn't running, the port is essentially "closed" and won't permit a connection because there's no program listening on it? Also, I didn't know the port number mattered. I had a look at the [[List of TCP and UDP port numbers]] article and thought I could pick any of the private ports between 49152–65535. Is that a bad idea?--[[User:El aprendelenguas|el '''Apre'''l]] (<sup>[[Special:Contributions/El aprendelenguas|facta]]</sup>-<sub>[[User talk:El aprendelenguas|facienda]]</sub>) 19:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, and I did just take a look at my <code>netstat</code> and will make sure to pick a private port that isn't already being used by internal processes on my system.--[[User:El aprendelenguas|el '''Apre'''l]] (<sup>[[Special:Contributions/El aprendelenguas|facta]]</sup>-<sub>[[User talk:El aprendelenguas|facienda]]</sub>) 19:36, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Specific ports are not inherently "more risky" - but if you pick a port which is commonly used to host another widespread software service, you might find statistically more random "probes" by random drive-by portscanners. Your Java program can verify the IP of who is connecting - so you can use specific-host-only connections (if you trust a specific IP, e.g. your parents' PC); the IP connecting to you can not be spoofed (unless your parents' PC is a "man in the middle" proxying somebody else's attack). You can use a Secure Socket in Java, and you can implement any of a variety of custom authorization verification handshaking protocols. It's very unlikely that an automated port scanner would guess a particular long authentication byte sequence "password" - which you could send in plain-text, or hash against the current UTC time and host IP, to make it more secure. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 20:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

: Home-brewing your own network protocol generally isn't necessary, and may open up security problems you haven't considered. I'd generally recommend running a secure-shell server like [[OpenSSH]] (on a non-standard port, so you don't have to look at so much port-knocking noise in the logs). With that you can tunnel anything you want, from windows and unix networking protocols to remote screen protocols link VNC; and if you really need to write your own protocol, it's probably easier to write a non-secured version of it, and tunnel that through SSH too. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] • [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 21:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::In Java, wrapping the protocol in SSL would be possible using [http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/security/ Security], e.g. the [http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/enwiki/api/javax/net/ssl/SSLSocket.html SSLSocket] (with SSL implemented by Sun, not by OpenSSH). (Or you could tunnel through an OpenSSH session). I was under the impression that el Aprel ''specifically wanted'' to write his/her own network protocol; but as Finlay rightly points out, much can be accomplished with standard tools like [[Secure copy|scp]]. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 21:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== 3-Sat ==
I was wondering, are the complexity classes of algorithms used to solve the 3-Sat descion problem determined based upon the number of actual variables or the number of expressions? For example, would the input size of (a + !a + b) AND (b + !b + a) AND (a + a + a) be 2 since {a,b} has 2 elements or 3 since 3 expressions are being conjuncted? (Obvbiously, this example can be very easily reduced down to fewer expressions, etc.) [[Special:Contributions/66.202.66.78|66.202.66.78]] ([[User talk:66.202.66.78|talk]]) 07:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Well, I would say it is 9, the number of literals you have to write to write out the expression. --[[User:Spoon!|Spoon!]] ([[User talk:Spoon!|talk]]) 07:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::So, essentially, it is the number of expressions since this is just 3 times the number of literals? In short, input size is related to the number of literals, not the number of variables used in those literals? Thanks:) [[Special:Contributions/66.202.66.78|66.202.66.78]] ([[User talk:66.202.66.78|talk]]) 07:45, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::It's NP complete in either case. Because worst case behaivor will occur when the number of different literals are within a polynomial factor of the size of the expression. [[User:Taemyr|Taemyr]] ([[User talk:Taemyr|talk]]) 08:51, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Final Fantasy Tactics ==
- While I'm here, I have another question. I always liked the battle system in FFT and was wondering if there was a program that would let you set up the characters, conditions, and terrains and have a multiplayer battle in a similair fashion; namely, could one get something like the FFT battle engine, but set it up so that it is two players without computer controlled characters? If this is not possible, how hard would it be to program something like this? What would be a good language to do it in? (I've often tossed around the idea of making my own, I just don't have that much experience with game programming; though I do have experience with other areas. Note: I really don't care about the quality of the graphics, just the system.) Actually, while here, I would like to ask the same question, only with regards to FF7 Chocobo racing portion from the Golden Saucer. (Again, this doesn't need to be an exact duplicate, just something related that I could customize and, possibly, mess around with the actual code) Thanks:) [[Special:Contributions/66.202.66.78|66.202.66.78]] ([[User talk:66.202.66.78|talk]]) 07:45, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:I searched for [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=197339&topic=51302490 existing implementations]; I don't know what "SuperTact" is unless it's the C64 game. I also found [http://www.fftrealm.com/ FFT Realm]; I don't know how close it is to what you want.
:As for implementing it yourself, it shouldn't be very hard if you're willing to forego (sophisticated) graphics and network play (so all players must be at the same computer). The [http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/197339/3876 rules] are well-known. However, expect that reimplementing every character class and spell from FFT to take as long as to write that guide (at least).
:If you already know any general-purpose programming languages (you said you "do have experience with other areas"), you'll probably be most effective with what you know. Otherwise, I'd suggest Java or Python, because they're well supported, widely used, have extensive standard libraries for graphics and (if you try it) networking, and are said to be easy to learn. (I'm afraid I don't know anything about Chocobo racing.) --[[User:Tardis|Tardis]] ([[User talk:Tardis|talk]]) 01:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== Choice of Motherboard ==

There is two mobo of Gigabyte in my choice

*GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R

*GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3R

Which one i should choose? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/119.30.36.51|119.30.36.51]] ([[User talk:119.30.36.51|talk]]) 11:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The big difference between these two motherboards is one supports DDR3 and the other DDR2. As DDR2 is still significantly cheaper then DDR3 I would recommend you stick with it. You're unlikely to see any performance difference in the vast majority of real world applications e.g. [http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2989] [http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/255223-30-ddr2-ddr3-core] so the only real benefit would be being able to use the RAM in a future DDR3 computer but given the price that's not likely to be a big advantage and the advantage is the ability to upgrade the RAM in the future for a reasonable price (since DDR3 will eventually overtake DDR2 in price and then will get cheaper) but again if you get 4GB now (and given the price there's little reason not to) there's not likely to be any real reason to upgrade in the future I would expect. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 11:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:DDR3 2GB modules are now at price parity with DDR2, and DDR2 prices appear to be going UP not down. DDR3 4gb modules are still much more expensive than ddr2 though. [[Special:Contributions/66.127.54.181|66.127.54.181]] ([[User talk:66.127.54.181|talk]]) 21:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

::I guess this depends where you live. It's not the case here in New Zealand where DDR3 is at least 25% more. Obviously I'm only considering 2x2gb, anything else isn't worth considering unless the OP has specific needs IMHO. If DDR3 is at price parity then I would agree DDR3 is probably the better bet. [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 11:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:::Even in cases where DDR3 are a little more expensive, it's worth something to [[future-proof]]. If it were me and the two boards were priced the same I would get the DDR3 version. ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 00:48, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== Visual Studio 6 & Crystal Report 2008 ==

I have installed '''Visual Basic 6''' and '''Crystal Report 2008''' in my computer. But I cannot run Crystal Report from within Visual Basic as the Report Designer option is not shown in the '''Add-Ins Menu''' . What I should do to solve this problem. Please help me. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/59.161.97.110|59.161.97.110]] ([[User talk:59.161.97.110|talk]]) 15:26, 16 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Excel question ==

This is such a simple question but I have a problem that's driving me BONKERS.

When I am using excel, very frequently when I click on a cell or a line, it will select 2, 3, or 4 cells/lines below it. I can't get it to stop doing this. It seems to happen at random and has nothing to do with the doc itself, the formatting, previous actions, or anything else. It will keep happening for 2-3 minutes and then suddenly it will stop and I can select 1 cell/line again. My colleagues report this issue all the time and no one has a clue why it happens or how to stop it.

I'm sure there is a MS Office savvy person who knows exactly why this happens and how to fix it. Please advise! [[User:Gohome00|Gohome00]] ([[User talk:Gohome00|talk]]) 16:23, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:There must be some error that occured during installation. Has this always happened? if yes, buy and reinstall it. if not, Your computer must have some sort of bug...[[User:Accdude92|Accdude92]] ([[User talk:Accdude92|talk]]) ([[User:Accdude92/guestbook|sign]]) 16:26, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

::"Your computer must have some sort of bug"? Please do not guess. [[User:Comet Tuttle|Comet Tuttle]] ([[User talk:Comet Tuttle|talk]]) 17:51, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:To be clear, does this happen on multiple computers when working only with a particular Excel doc, or is it any Excel doc? What version of Excel? I'm wondering if you have one particular doc in which a bunch of cells have been merged, so the behavior when clicking on one of the merged cells is not what you'd expect not knowing they had been merged. [[User:Comet Tuttle|Comet Tuttle]] ([[User talk:Comet Tuttle|talk]]) 17:51, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

It happens with any and all docs, including those created by other sources and other offices. It happens on multiple computers. Definitely has nothing to do with merges. I could create a document right now thats just a list of my friend's names, and it might happen. Or it might not. No clear pattern. It seems that many of my colleagues just deal with it and treat it like "one of those things". Excel is always trying to "help" you by doing frustrating things automatically, such as creating formulas where you don't want them. I am assuming that's what's happening here.

We use whatever the newest version of MS office is. It has happened to me before on other computers in other jobs - I've just never had to work so much with excel, so now it's driving me crazy. [[User:Gohome00|Gohome00]] ([[User talk:Gohome00|talk]]) 17:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:Would it be possible to take a screenshot of the screen (Print Scrn key, then open Accessories>Paint, then Paste, then save as a jpeg) immediately upon its occurrence, and post it (to a photobucket or Flickr account perhaps) and post a link to it? I have used Excel for many years and I don't recognize the symptom you're describing. [[User:Comet Tuttle|Comet Tuttle]] ([[User talk:Comet Tuttle|talk]]) 20:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

* Gohome00, I would bet that this has something to do with your typing or clicking habits. If you are holding down SHIFT or CTRL when you click it will select more then one cell at a time. SHIFT selects every sell between the initial cell and the finial cell in a square shape, CTRL selects the initial cell and the clicked cell. If the mouse is moving when you click it's possible to select two or more cells at a time. If you dial down the mouse sensitivity (speed) it might prevent this. I hope that helps, -----[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 00:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== Blender physical objects ==

I know that there is some company that you can send Blender files to, and then they will somehow "print" these, so a (plastic?) physical model is created, and then they send back the model to the customer. But I seem to have forgotten the name (and website URL) of the company. Any ideas? --[[Special:Contributions/81.227.64.69|81.227.64.69]] ([[User talk:81.227.64.69|talk]]) 19:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:We have an article on [[3D printing]] - there are a lot of companies that can do this. I think we sent [[.dwg]] files to our 3D printer when we prototyped things - there are probably hundred of companies that can contract small 3D print jobs these days. A [http://www.bing.com/search?q=3D+printing web search for 3D Printing] turns up many contract shops you can choose from to match your price and technical needs. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 20:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:: These services certainly exist - but are really expensive. For a one-off, they are the cheapest (and only) route. But if you need to do this a lot, you might also like to look at the "[[RepRap]]" project and also things like the [[MakerBot]]. These small machines can be built for relatively low cost ([http://store.makerbot.com/cupcake-cnc.html $750 in kit-form] - about $400 if you make it yourself from scratch) and it will do exactly what you're asking. The [[RepRap]] machine can even make all of the plastic parts you need to make another RepRap machine! The business end looks like a hot-melt glue gun (although it's hotter and a little more sophisticated) and a pair of motors drives that around in two axes to 'draw' a thin layer of plastic representing a cross-section of your object. A third motor moves the plastic depositor up and down vertically so that the model can be built up layer by layer. It's slow - it could take an hour or more to make even a pretty small object - and there are rather severe restrictions on the size of objects that you can make with it - but compared to the commercial services, it would probably pay for itself after making maybe just a dozen objects.

:: Alternatively if your objects don't have under-cuts - and if you're at all good with tools, you could do as I did and build a [http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Three-Axis-CNC-Machine-Cheaply-and-/ three Axis milling machine] for about $200. I built mine over several weekends using MDF for the major structural parts, aluminium channels and roller-blade bearings as the guide-rails and three stepper motors with long lead-screws to drive a 2hp router motor in the X, Y and Z directions. I used a couple of [[Arduino]] computers to control it using instructions written to an SD memory card - so it doesn't tie up my PC for hours at time. Mine will carve wood and some sorts of plastic pretty efficiently at sizes up to 4'x3'x9" - and with precision of about a millimeter or so. It can also cut metal - but you have to go very slowly and lubricate the cutting surface - which is a major pain. You can drive it from all sorts of 3D file formats from existing OpenSourced software. It doesn't have the versatility of the plastic deposition machines like RepRap - but it's cheap to make and can produce much larger and more robust work-pieces than those plastic deposition machines. My longer term plan is to use the CNC milling machine to make the parts for my own design of 3D printer...and to make a smaller five-axis CNC machine with a Dremel as the cutting tool. That machine would be able to make under-cuts and such like.

:: [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 04:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== slow file copying speed ==

I have a Thinkpad T61 laptop running Ubuntu 8.04. The laptop has an internal SATA hard drive and also a plug-in bay with a second hard drive (you can put an optical drive there instead if you want). The second HD is also SATA but I'm pretty sure the plug-in bay has a SATA-PATA bridge inside. Both drives have ext3 file systems. Anyway, I tried copying a 4gb .iso file from the internal drive to the plug-in drive and after a while, the transfer slowed to around 5MB/sec, which just seems pathetic. Copying from the internal drive to an external USB drive gets around 5x that speed (though much more cpu load). It's not the speed of the PATA bus either. I unmounted and remounted the plug-in drive, then catted the copied file to /dev/null and got about 60MB/sec transfer. So why was the original copying so slow? It was slow whether I used cp, dd, or rsync. The computer has tons of ram and was not heavily loaded at the time of the tests. Any ideas? [[Special:Contributions/66.127.54.181|66.127.54.181]] ([[User talk:66.127.54.181|talk]]) 21:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Those rates (5MB/sec and 60 MB/sec) very closely match the transfer speeds for USB 1.1 and 2.0. Probably, for whatever reason, the plug-in drive was originally only recognized as a USB 1.x compliant device; on reconnecting, the correct driver was detected and loaded, and the device functioned with full USB 2.0 speed. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 21:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::<strike>Erm, now I'm confused - which drive was the slow one - the bay drive (which should not have been a USB device); or the external drive? [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 21:26, 16 October 2009 (UTC)</strike>
:::I think I got it - it was slow between the internal SATA drive and the bay-drive - probably because these devices share the same [[southbridge]]/[[Conventional PCI|peripheral controller]]; but the data can not go directly from disk-drive-1 to disk-drive-2 (it must [[Direct Memory Access|go to main memory]], at least - and may have to actually use the CPU). Thus the memory-northbridge-southbridge bandwidth is split in half. The case of an external USB drive does not share the PCI bus - so this bandwidth is not bottlenecked, and the full USB transfer speed is possible. There are still a few curious issues with the numbers; you could benchmark a lot more to really narrow down where the real worst-case performance happens to locate what the bottleneck is (but it may not be worthwhile, depending on how often you need high performance data transfer). [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 21:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:Whoa, something weird is going on, catting the file from the INTERNAL drive to /dev/null just took 16 minutes (4 MB/sec). I wonder if something is wrong with the internal drive. I'm trying another copy with a different large file. Just last night I backed up the drive to an external USB 2.0 drive and got 20+ MB/sec transfer. But I see no error messages in "dmesg" or syslog. Anyway, there are 3 drives: 1) internal SATA, should be directly on PCI bus and fast. 2) Plug-in bay drive, on SATA-PATA bridge that should be on the bus; 3) external USB 2.0 drive. There is also a 4th possibility, which is that I have an ExpressCard eSATA adapter (plugs into internal PCIe if I understand properly) that I can connect an external drive to, but I haven't tried that yet. Right now, something seems flat-out wrong with the internal drive, like maybe it has gotten in some weird DMA mode. I wonder how to diagnose this. [[Special:Contributions/66.127.54.181|66.127.54.181]] ([[User talk:66.127.54.181|talk]]) 21:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::It occurs to me, I have a lot of browser tabs and other windows open though quiet, and the system is not thrashing, but it's sort of possible that some javascript or something is doing steady disk i/o causing head contention on the main drive. I will reboot the computer and try repeating the copy with nothing else running. [[Special:Contributions/66.127.54.181|66.127.54.181]] ([[User talk:66.127.54.181|talk]]) 22:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, I haven't rebooted, but found that copying other files from the internal SATA drive goes fairly fast, like 30MB/sec. It's only THESE PARTICULAR FILES (two .iso's that I downloaded last night) that transfer slowly, including cp or cat'ing them to /dev/null. This is weird. File system fragmentation? Bad spots on the disk? I don't see any syslog messages. [[Special:Contributions/66.127.54.181|66.127.54.181]] ([[User talk:66.127.54.181|talk]]) 22:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Rebol v Python - which is better? ==

I've only programmed with basic and logo previously, and I want to learn a more up to date language that will allow me to interact with the web and with Windows or Linux. Although the Wikipedia article about [[Rebol]] is a very dry formal description (*) that does not do the language justice and makes it appear totally unsuitable for the casual user or beginner, the tutorials here http://www.musiclessonz.com/rebol_tutorial.html make the language very alluring. (* Its as if the [[Motorcycle]] article was like this: "A /motorcycle/ is an electro-mechanical device which transforms the chemical energy of hydrocarbons into kinetic energy....").

Can anyone put the case for Python and say why I should learn Python rather than Rebol? I am only going to learn to use one language. Speed of learning and quick programming (not program speed) are what is important to me. It would only be for ocassional casual use. It looks like Rebol can do things in a single line of code (see http://www.rebol.com/oneliners.html for example) that would take pages in other languages, and also that I can do web things with it that would be too complicated for me to attempt in other languages. Thanks [[Special:Contributions/78.149.130.188|78.149.130.188]] ([[User talk:78.149.130.188|talk]]) 21:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Rebol is far less common, so you will have a harder time tracking down references, resources, and fellow humans who can help you with conceptual and technical issues. Python has an enormous user-base. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 21:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:With great user base come great many quality libraries. From [http://www.pythonogre.com/ 3d game engines] to [http://docs.sympy.org/ symbolic math] to [http://wiki.python.org/moin/DatabaseInterfaces interfaces for most databases in existence], and this is only scratching the surface. In strict contrast to rebol, python can do everything. However, many languages exist because a single one cannot fit all tasks, right tool for the right problem, and other hippie stories apply. --[[Special:Contributions/194.197.235.240|194.197.235.240]] ([[User talk:194.197.235.240|talk]]) 23:22, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your replies but sorry I think that is less than convincing evidence for the superiority of Python. Python may have a big-user base prescence on the web because getting it to do some things are difficult/complicated, while with Rebol these same thing may only require one or two command words. Some of the appeal of Rebol to me is that it has some of the features of Forth, a language whose simplicity of structure appeals to me. Gosh, I think I'm falling in love. [[Special:Contributions/78.147.27.136|78.147.27.136]] ([[User talk:78.147.27.136|talk]]) 10:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:It seems you have already made your decision, but I can't resist saying python isn't difficult. Below is a python program that brings up a quit button that does what it says. It's quite readable even if you don't know python and the details can be learnt in less than a day from [http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/ch-Introduction.html a pygtk tutorial].

{{hidden|pygtk sample|
<source lang=python>
#!/usr/bin/python
import gtk

w = gtk.Window (gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL)
b = gtk.Button ('QUIT')
b.connect ('pressed', gtk.main_quit)
w.connect ('delete-event', gtk.main_quit)
w.add (b)
w.show_all ()

gtk.main ()
</source>
}}

:A simple command line movie player using the [[gstreamer]] framework

{{hidden|gstreamer sample|
<source lang=python>
#!/usr/bin/python
import sys
import gobject
import gst

loop = gobject.MainLoop ()
player = gst.element_factory_make ('playbin2', 'player')
player.set_property ('uri', sys.argv[1])

bus = player.get_bus ()
bus.add_signal_watch ()
bus.connect ('message::eos', lambda dummy, d2: loop.quit ())

player.set_state (gst.STATE_PLAYING)
loop.run ()

player.set_state (gst.STATE_NULL)
</source>
}}

:Finally a simple web browser with [[webkit]], without an address bar because I'm feeling lazy

{{hidden|webkit sample|
<source lang=python>
#!/usr/bin/python
import gobject
import gtk
import webkit

gobject.threads_init ()

window = gtk.Window (gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL)

scrolled = gtk.ScrolledWindow (None)
scrolled.set_policy (gtk.POLICY_AUTOMATIC, gtk.POLICY_AUTOMATIC)

webview = webkit.WebView ()
frame = webview.get_main_frame ()
frame.load_uri ('http://www.google.com/')

scrolled.add (webview)
window.add (scrolled)

window.connect ('delete-event', gtk.main_quit)
window.show_all ()

gtk.main ()
</source>
}}

:These are best taken as examples of not so good programming practise, but hopefully they show python isn't "difficult". --[[Special:Contributions/194.197.235.240|194.197.235.240]] ([[User talk:194.197.235.240|talk]]) 17:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry again I'm less than convinced. This is a complete Rebol program for a web site editor:


view layout[f: field btn"Edit"[editor to-url f/text]]


Taken from the 'one liners' link above. The Python script for a button seems very elaborate: in Rebol I think it would just be two or three words. Could any Python programmer have a look at the one-liners link above, and the Cookbook external link at the [[Rebol]] article, and tell me if things with equal conciseness can be done with Python? [[Special:Contributions/78.151.108.233|78.151.108.233]] ([[User talk:78.151.108.233|talk]]) 10:17, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== How to install cURL? ==

When I download cURL for Windows XP, I get a zip file. In the zip file are curl.exe, some dills, and some text files. When I click on curl.exe a black window openms up and then immediately closes. How should I install cURL? Its irritating that the information that people would obviously need is completely omitted from the instructions, similarly with wget. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/78.149.130.188|78.149.130.188]] ([[User talk:78.149.130.188|talk]]) 21:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

: Extract all the files in the .ZIP into a folder you've made (say c:/Program Files/curl). [[cURL]] is a command-line program, so you need to open the windows command line (run->cmd.exe), cd into the folder you made for cURL, and run curl.exe with options that make it do what you want. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] • [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 21:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:Further, wget is also a command line program. That "black box" is the console. I don't know why Windows makes it die instantly. If it stayed open, you'd see some console output. To use either curl or wget, you need to type (ignore the mouse). If you want a click and view program that shows web pages, there are many: IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome... -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 21:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Would it be sensible to copy the contents of the zip file into c:\ or c:\windows, so that I do not have to change directories after opening the console window? What I would like to do with either of them is to download the text from a series of pages by only following the "next page" links and not following any other link. Anyone got any idea how I could do that please? [[Special:Contributions/78.149.130.188|78.149.130.188]] ([[User talk:78.149.130.188|talk]]) 22:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:You can put those files on your [[Path (variable)]] by either adding them to a system directory (c:\windows\system32, for example); or placing them somewhere and adding that directory to your path. Or, you can put them in a folder somewhere, and manually type the full location of that program from any other [[current working directory]]; eg. "c:\programs\wget\wget.exe (arguments)" . [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 22:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

::When I was using Windows I'd put command programs in a single directory (e.g. e:\utils) and put that directory in the path. Command-line programs are very useful and the great majority of them have few files that are really needed, so it's easy for a dozen or more programs to coexist in the same directory. Wget (which I happen to make great use of outside Windows) is a particularly excellent (if limited) program but do read the instructions about recursive downloading carefully before use, or else you may have one or other kind of surprise. Sorry I don't know the answer to your specific question but I imagine that these "next page" links have an easily identifiable set of filenames, and if you can't easily get wget to get these filenames and little more, then simply get the whole of the relevant section of the site and then delete the stuff that's of no interest to you. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 02:19, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Converting WAV to MIDI ==

I have several WAV sound files that I need to convert into MIDI format. What's a free program that will do this? Mediaconverter.org doesn't convert to or from MIDIs for some reason. --[[Special:Contributions/75.10.49.150|75.10.49.150]] ([[User talk:75.10.49.150|talk]]) 22:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:A WAV file contains samples of the sound wave, several thousands per second. Consequently, any sound may be represented as a WAV data file. A MIDI file, however, is merely a sequence of instrument names, notes, and velocities, and thus only (relatively) simple music may be represented as a MIDI file. Among other things, song and general sound effects cannot be represented as a sequence of notes. In fact, you can compare WAV files to bitmap images, and MIDI files to vector images. A bitmap image contains the colour value at each pixel (millions of them per image), and a vector image file contains only a list of objects (circle, line, etc.) and their attributes (colour, line width, etc.). Thus it is easy to convert a MIDI file to a WAV file, and a vector image to a bitmap image, but it is extremely difficult to do it in the other direction. --[[User:Andreas Rejbrand|Andreas Rejbrand]] ([[User talk:Andreas Rejbrand|talk]]) 22:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::Then is there any way to play a WAV file in JAVA without freezing the rest of the program? The only method I could find for playing WAV files in JAVA froze the program until the sound file was done playing. --[[Special:Contributions/75.10.49.150|75.10.49.150]] ([[User talk:75.10.49.150|talk]]) 22:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, you might want to consider learning about [[Asynchronous I/O]] for some background theory, and [[Thread (computer science)|creating a separate thread]] for the audio I/O. [http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/enwiki/api/java/lang/Thread.html Java Thread]s are basically built into the language, and are fairly straightforward - you will need to instantiate a thread and and provide it with a run() function that performs the audio playback. If you are using the newest [http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/enwiki/api/javax/sound/sampled/Clip.html Sampled Sound in javax.sound.sampled], then the default start() and stop() methods are already asynchronous (threaded), so you don't have to do this manually. Depending what your audio needs are, this may be the best audio package. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 22:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:WAV to MIDI is essentially impossible. WAV is like the recording of an orchestra playing - MIDI is like the printed score sheets that the musicians were reading from at the time. There is software (and hardware) that can extract note information from the pitch of the music - but it's really patchy and doesn't work for anything but simplest single-instrument recordings. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 03:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

There is some software that does this, although its a long time since I last considered it. I recall there was some pay-for software, not sure if there were any free versions. Update: A simple search for wav midi in Google produces several results regarding conversion. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&newwindow=1&q=wav+midi&meta= [[Special:Contributions/78.147.27.136|78.147.27.136]] ([[User talk:78.147.27.136|talk]]) 10:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Internet trouble ==

*I have windows xp professional.
*I am using a lynksys wireless usb adapter to access my wireless connection
*I have at&t u verse as my isp
*My internet is really slow, and it frequently disconnects
*This has been happening for a while now.
*If you need any more info, ask.[[User:Accdude92|Accdude92]] ([[User talk:Accdude92|talk]]) ([[User:Accdude92/guestbook|sign]]) 22:30, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

: The obvious first thing to try is to connect to your router with an ethernet cable; this will tell you whether the problem is a local wireless problem, or a problem with the internet connection as a whole. Diagnosis and fixes for these two kinds of error are often very <s>difficult</s>edit: different. In the meantime, stop all peer-to-peer programs like Bittorrent; in my experience consumer DSL routers can inexplicably exhaust some internal resource, and become fatally horked when confronted with the torrent (sic) of traffic such programs throw at them. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] • [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 22:42, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:(e/c) Thanks for providing a useful amount of information. If the problem turns out to be with the WiFi, there are several fixes you can try. Obviously, you need to be within range for it to work. What is the signal strength as reported by Windows? A recently purchased wireless router should have the strength to cover a two- or three-storey house. Piggybacking on the neighbour's WiFi does not usually get the speed or stability that you want. Do you know the brand and model number of your router? Other quick fixes: if there are many other wireless networks in the area, then you might want to change the broadcast channel. Most routers default to channel 6 - try changing to channel 1 or 11. Some cordless phones and microwaves also emit the same frequency (~2.4 GHz). For me, changing to channel 11 solved an interference problem with a neighbour's router. It's all trial-and-error. If possible, you can move your router to a better location, away from the computer and in the centre of the range of which you wish to connect to the network. [[User:Xenon54|Xenon54]] / [[User talk:Xenon54|talk]] / 22:46, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Another thing to look at is possible over-heating of your router. I recall having a similar problem a while back. - [[User:Akamad|Akamad]] ([[User talk:Akamad|talk]]) 23:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

:I used that AT&T service on my wife's machine for a while - it was awful. As you say - poor bandwidth, patchy connections, generally a total disaster. I carefully documented the problems - worked with them patiently for a month while they tried to fix it, making all sorts of ridiculous claims that it was my computer (I used three different one - they couldn't all be at fault) - they claimed that "Windows needs to be rebooted once a day to keep the networking reliable" (possibly reasonable advice - but I was using Linux!), etc, etc. Then I demanded (and got) all of my money back for the whole 60 days I'd been using it and the refunded the price of my network adapter too. I switched to RoadRunner - things have been working just fine since then. So I don't think you should blame XP or the wireless adapter until you've hassled the AT&T helpline a bunch of times. It's very likely to be the AT&T service. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 03:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:One diagnostic thing you might try out is to see how the connection works when "wired" (you should probably be able to connect to your wireless router with an ethernet cable). Is it faster? More stable? The same? This can at least let you rule out that wireless has anything to do with it. --[[User:Mr.98|Mr.98]] ([[User talk:Mr.98|talk]]) 20:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Using Outlook on 2 Computers ==

I have Outlook 2007 installed on two computers. They are set up the exact same way (same account). However the mail only appears on the first computer I installed it on. Is there anyway i can get around this or do I need to delete it form the first machine I installed it from? [[Special:Contributions/66.133.196.152|66.133.196.152]] ([[User talk:66.133.196.152|talk]]) 23:04, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

: I'll guess that your are accessing your email account using the [[POP3]] protocol (it's in the account settings screen in Outlook). Very often people's POP3 clients (that's Outlook in your case) are configured to download emails and ''remove'' them from the mail server. You can configure the client to download and ''not'' remove the mail server's copy. That way Both machines can see it (I don't have outlook to hand so I don't know the precise option you'll use). A downside of this is that mail will then build up in your mail server, so you may need to be more diligent about tidying it up yourself (so you don't exceed any quota your ISP may apply). As an alternative to POP3, you may be able to use the [[IMAP]] protocol instead, which is better suited for sharing one email account between multiple machines (you can, for example, create subfolders on the mail server and then file mail as appropriate - and all the email clients see the change almost instantly). -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] • [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 23:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

::I wonder if our OP could configure his main machine to download and delete his messages, and configure his secondary machine to only download them &mdash; and keep them marked "un-downloaded" so that when he logs in on his main machine, they'll be downloaded to that machine (for the first time on that machine, and for the 2nd time total) and deleted from the POP3 server. One downside to this juggling act is that the secondary computer won't have access to any e-mails the first computer has downloaded. One alternative, OP, is to set up [[Remote Desktop Services|Windows Remote Desktop]] or [[VNC]] so your 2nd computer merely logs into the 1st computer and sees whatever you'd see on the screen of the first computer. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] ([[User talk:Tempshill|talk]]) 01:31, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:::The least complex way of sharing mail between two computers may be using a webmail interface like what Gmail provides. Gmail will also work with some local mail clients via IMAP but it is less intuitive to keep things synchronized that way. (Is that a new mail that I see, where did I save the sent mail, and so forth). [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 21:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:::: Make use of IMAP as suggested - or if this is for business purposes, get an microsoft exchange account and charge it as an expense. --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 21:21, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

= October 17 =

== Computer/HD video ==

What processing speed (in GHZ), what amount of RAM (in MB), and what sort of video output mechanism would be required to view a film on a computer at the following specifications:
Format:MKV
Subtitles stream:SSA encoding
Audio stream:DTS encoding, 6 channels, sampling rate in 48000 HZ
Video stream:1920x1080, frame rate 976215
Duration:1 hour, 40 minutes, 58 seconds
Operating system used:Windows XP
Size on disk of the file:7.87 GB
I am considering the purchase of a new computer and want to ensure that it is capable of running this film. I am also somewhat limited in my budget and want to minimize the cost of this computer, while still viewing the aforementioned film without the player lagging and therefore rendering the film unwatchable.

[[Special:Contributions/97.125.80.88|97.125.80.88]] ([[User talk:97.125.80.88|talk]]) 02:27, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:First off, the requirements are:
:*A DVD viewing software
:*A DVD drive, CD drives won't work
:*A pretty fast computer.
:At least a 1.4 GHZ processor and about 1 GB of RAM are the requirements I personally would go with. And if you wanna go Blu-Ray, then you're gonna need a Sony Vaio for that. As long as you are playing it back via a DVD drive, it will not affect hard drive space. Hope this helps. [[User:ConCompS|ConCompS]] ([[User talk:ConCompS|talk]]) 04:03, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

::No, the OP isn't asking about viewing video off a DVD disc, it's pretty clear. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] ([[User talk:Tempshill|talk]]) 05:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:You didn't mention the key point, what video codec is the video? For 1080 this would commonly be h264 but doesn't have to be. Also you didn't mention what your current specs are in particular the current processor and motherboard (or at least whether it has a PCIe16 slot available). Most dual core processors, should be able to handle even fairly complicated h264 especially with an efficient codec like h264. However if you already have a decent processor and your computer has a PCIe16 slot available then simply getting a modern ATI or Nvidia card which supports full h264 (and preferably VC-1) bitstreaming would be enough for most files (although a few aren't supported but most nowadays are 'DXVA compatible') and likely to be cheaper, however getting it to work on Windows XP may be a little more difficult then Windows Vista. mHz is an exceptionally poor measure, see [[mHz myth]]. If you are set on getting a new computer, I would suggest a decent dual core (say an E5200/5300 or any Athlon II X2 or Athlon X2 7xxx) and a GPU supporting bitstreaming would sufficiently cover whatever you need [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 11:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Sun javaws on Fedora without SELinux ==

I have Sun (not openjre) javaws on Fedora 11 without SELinux enabled. When I run a jnlp app, my keyboard is disabled on the app. Googling hasn't turned up anything useful. I assume it is a pathetic security issue and I have to jump through hoops to enable the keyboard. I don't mind if they hoops are easy to see. Anyone know where Sun has hidden these? -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 04:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

: I can only say that Sun JavaWS on Ubuntu 9.04 properly opens and displays JNLP apps and delivers keyboard events to them normally. It doesn't make sense for a security property to allow AWT/Swing objects to appear on screen, but to not deliver keyboard events to them, so I really doubt there's a security property that is so granular. If I were to guess, I'd hazard that it's a bad interaction between the window manager and the toplevel window, in that somehow the java app doesn't get focus properly, or doesn't think it does. Try, as a first instance, running the SwingSet2 demo from [http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/javawebstart/demos.html Sun's demo page] and changing the Look-and-feel (that really shouldn't matter, but clearly something is wrong). -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] • [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 15:22, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks, but it is a non-issue now. The one time in the last 3 or 4 years that I needed to run Java and it failed. I borrowed a Windows laptop and did the job. Now, I'm trying to figure out how to ''completely'' remove Java from my system. It is time for another fdisk-format-reinstall, so I might go that path. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 15:31, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== iPhone v Thomson router ==

Has anyone had problems in making the iPhone recognise the router please, if so how did you resolve the matter? Thanks in anticipation.--[[Special:Contributions/85.210.90.215|85.210.90.215]] ([[User talk:85.210.90.215|talk]]) 08:29, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:What's the actual model of the router and what's the actual problem you're having please? i.e. Can your iPhone see the wireless access point at all or but it's unable to connect, or does it see it, but it can't access the Internet? [[User:ZX81|<span style="font-size:14px;font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana;color:#800040;filter:Shadow(color=#000000,strength=1);height:15px;">ZX81</span>]] [[User talk:ZX81|<span style="font-size:11px;font-family:verdana;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]] 10:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks for your interest; the router is a Thomson TG585 v7. The iPhone can 'see' the router but does not recognise my password nor the WPA code, which my supplier, Tiscali, say that I should input as the password. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.210.90.215|85.210.90.215]] ([[User talk:85.210.90.215|talk]]) 20:20, 17 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::[http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=5349 Here is the manual] for that model of router. Section 4 talks about how to set up the WiFi, I think section 4.2 might be the specific information your after. The paragraph titled "Forgot your wireless settings?" will give you the instructions on how to get your SSID, encryption key and security type. -----[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 01:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks for all this, unfortunately you are dealing with a non-technophobe and I don't understand the manual's language, but I will persist.--[[Special:Contributions/85.210.90.215|85.210.90.215]] ([[User talk:85.210.90.215|talk]]) 07:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

==PUK code for samsung E-250==
Hey! I forgot my PUK code and now I'm getting error ' PIN blocked'.I've left with 6 more attempts otherwise I think I'll have to buy a new SIM. How could I resolve this problem?Any suggestions please.Cheers.--[[Special:Contributions/59.103.11.55|59.103.11.55]] ([[User talk:59.103.11.55|talk]]) 09:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:Just ring up your service provider and tell them you need a PUK code and after their verification checks they'll give it to you (most likely without charge). Don't keep guessing, because you are right and after 10 times the SIM card will be permanently locked/need replacing (at cost). [[User:ZX81|<span style="font-size:14px;font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana;color:#800040;filter:Shadow(color=#000000,strength=1);height:15px;">ZX81</span>]] [[User talk:ZX81|<span style="font-size:11px;font-family:verdana;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]] 10:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Microsoft excel cells non negative? ==

My aim is to have some cells never be negative. I have a function where, e.g. cell A = cell B - 100. If A < 0, I'd like the final value to be 0 instead of the actual negative value. Is there a way to do this? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.163.243.51|128.163.243.51]] ([[User talk:128.163.243.51|talk]]) 11:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Check out the MAX worksheet function. &ndash;[[User:Rholton|RHolton]][[User talk:Rholton|<b><font size="3">≡</font></b>]]&ndash; 11:31, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks, and I also figured out another way just now, after looking around. I used A = (B-100)*IF(B-100<0,0). I had no idea I could use if statement in a cell like this. [[Special:Contributions/128.163.243.51|128.163.243.51]] ([[User talk:128.163.243.51|talk]]) 11:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, there are all sorts of logical arguments for excel. -----[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 00:37, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== OpenOffice string functions? ==

Documentation I've seen (for both Excel and OpenOffice) suggests there's a <code>str(A1)</code> function one can call to convert a number to a string. But it doesn't seem to work; it prints "<code>#NAME?</code>" in the cell instead. (OpenOffice version 2.4.0 on a Mac, if it matters.). Am I missing some step necessary to load or enable the string functions, or something? —[[User:Ummit|Steve Summit]] ([[User talk:Ummit|talk]]) 14:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:There is no STR() function for cells in Excel (there is in VBA, but that's different). You use T() instead. (Or TEXT() if you want it to be formatted in a particular way.) --[[User:Mr.98|Mr.98]] ([[User talk:Mr.98|talk]]) 14:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:: Thanks! <code>T()</code> doesn't seem to do anything, and <code>TEXT()</code> doesn't seem to work in OpenOffice, but it's just the trick for Excel, which'll be fine in this case. —[[User:Ummit|Steve Summit]] ([[User talk:Ummit|talk]]) 22:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Switching Off A Process ==

Is it possible to switch off a process (without rebooting) and without using the Task Manager on Vista? I have Firefox still running even though I closed it earlier on (by clicking the 'x' on top-right) and am now unable to re-open Firefox as the machine tells me Firefox is already open and has to be closed. Task Manager shows the process as running (250+K) but doesn't do anything to close it when I click 'End Process'. Is there another way to close it so I can reopen it again (without rebooting)? TIA! --[[User:KageTora|KageTora - SPQW - (影虎)]] ([[User talk:KageTora|talk]]) 15:04, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

: There are rather more sophisticated task-manager-like programs, like [[Process Explorer]], but they kill processes in fundamentally the same way that Task Manager does (and so really shouldn't do anything better). The only thing I can suggest is that you're actually killing a [[subprocess]] of firefox, and leaving the parent intact. If that's the case, Process Explorer is better, because it shows processes in a tree structure, so you know you're killing the whole family and not just a single child. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] • [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 15:12, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
::Depending on your version of Windows you may have the utilities [[taskkill]] and [[tasklist]] which can be used to kill and list running processes from the command prompt. They will give help information on the command line parameters. --[[Special:Contributions/82.41.11.134|82.41.11.134]] ([[User talk:82.41.11.134|talk]]) 16:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:::Thanks. However, I don't feel comfortable with cmd.exe, so I will leave that alone. [[Process Explorer]] had the same effect as Task Manager, too, so I just rebooted. However, one reason I asked this question is because it has happened before on numerous occasions - primarily with Firefox. A Google search came up with a number of results of the same (or similar) question/problem that other users have had. A quick look through gave me no helpful information, though, as a number of the answerers were proposing uninstalling certain extensions or whatever - an action which basically needs Firefox to be open and running more or less smoothly. Thanks anyway. --[[User:KageTora|KageTora - SPQW - (影虎)]] ([[User talk:KageTora|talk]]) 16:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

::::I find that Firefox.exe often takes a long time to actually terminate even if the browser window has closed. I presume it's doing things like saving profile data or clearing the cache, so it doesn't seem wise to force it to close early. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:.isika|.isika]] ([[User talk:.isika|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/.isika|contribs]]) 19:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Start Menu and Icons missing ==

My start menu and desktop icons are completely missing. Looking through the C:/Windows folder reveals that my explorer.exe was deleted during a computer update. Any ideas on how I can resolve this? Thanks.--[[User talk:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants</font>]][[User:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27</font>]]([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<font color="black">c</font>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User:Giants27/guestbook|<font color="black">s</font>]]) 15:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:Also, my computer runs on Windows 2003, if that helps.--[[User talk:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants</font>]][[User:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27</font>]]([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<font color="black">c</font>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User:Giants27/guestbook|<font color="black">s</font>]]) 15:57, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:Why on earth would explorer.exe get deleted during an update? It sounds like the actions of malware to me. Also, do you mean [[Windows Server 2003]], or some other version of [[List of Microsoft Windows versions|Windows]] for the consumer market? [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] ([[User talk:Astronaut|talk]]) 16:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
::I have an XP. And not sure but my computer recently installed 10 updates during shut down and this morning I turn on my computer and it starts deleting corrupted things. Explorer.exe being one of them.--[[User talk:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants</font>]][[User:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27</font>]]([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<font color="black">c</font>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User:Giants27/guestbook|<font color="black">s</font>]]) 16:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm confused, you said your computer was Windows 2003, now it's Windows XP?
::::Maybe the OP is confusing it with Office 2003, a very common mistake. --[[User:KageTora|KageTora - SPQW - (影虎)]] ([[User talk:KageTora|talk]]) 20:04, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::It is a Windows XP, didn't realize Windows 2003 and the XP were different.--[[User talk:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants</font>]][[User:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27</font>]]([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<font color="black">c</font>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User:Giants27/guestbook|<font color="black">s</font>]]) 20:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:explorer.exe should never be deleted during a (valid) computer update. (Please also note that the directory separator character is "\" in Windows, not "/" as on the Internet for instance.) You could try to repair your Windows installation, by booting from the installation DVD. --[[User:Andreas Rejbrand|Andreas Rejbrand]] ([[User talk:Andreas Rejbrand|talk]]) 19:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
::It was deleted as "corrupted", not sure if I have the DVD. I'll have to look around for it. Cheers,--[[User talk:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants</font>]][[User:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27</font>]]([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<font color="black">c</font>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User:Giants27/guestbook|<font color="black">s</font>]]) 20:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Windows XP comes on a CD, not a DVD. [[User:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 22:30, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:Might be if it's a wierd OEM version of XP. Yes, do as Andreas Rejbrand said... run the repair. Either that, or pay a professional to take a look. -----[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 00:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:::(ec) It seems that the OP is not very certain what operating system he/she is running. (Note the ambiguity between "Windows 2003", "Windows Server 2003," and "I have an XP"). I think the OP has since clarified that it is Windows XP, but he/she should really carefully and correctly verify - they can check against [[List of Microsoft Windows versions]] to be absolutely certain. It will help the rest of us diagnose this issue if there is zero ambiguity about the Windows version. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 00:38, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Regardless of the OS version, the fix is to re-install the file. Funny OEM versions of XP aside, I think all modern versions of Windows (2000, XP, 2003, 2008, Vista, 7) have a repair installation option of some kind. ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 01:43, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::::It's 100% an XP (not being that knowledgeable about computers I thought Windows 2003 and the XP are the same thing, clearly I'm mistaken) but due to a virus in my computer about a year ago, a professional recovered my system and now for some reason the original CD doesn't work anymore. Is there any way to avoid calling a professional at this point?--[[User talk:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">Giants</font>]][[User:Giants27|<font face="Bauhaus 93" color="black" size="3">27</font>]]([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<font color="black">c</font>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User:Giants27/guestbook|<font color="black">s</font>]]) 02:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Assuming you have found your XP install CD, pop it in the drive and start your PC. It should show a blue screen offering the chance to "Install Windows XP" or "Repair your installation". Choose the repair option. [http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operatingsystems/ss/instxprepair1.htm This link] shows the steps in better detail. Unless the CD is physically damaged, I can think of no reason why this would not work. [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] ([[User talk:Astronaut|talk]]) 05:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== Python ==

In the Python interpreter, is it possible to edit a specific line of a function if that function has already been defined? If so, how? --Lucas Brown 42 21:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lucas Brown 42|Lucas Brown 42]] ([[User talk:Lucas Brown 42|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lucas Brown 42|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I think it isn't possible but I'm not sure. It is better to have the functions in a file, and then import them. A proper editor will let you run an inferior python shell inside an editor buffer and directly load python functions to it from other buffers, eg [[GNU Emacs|emacs]] does this with C-M-x. Emacs or any other decent editor would also give you [[syntax highlighting]] and autoindenting and more. (Please forgive the clutter if you already knew this.) --[[Special:Contributions/194.197.235.240|194.197.235.240]] ([[User talk:194.197.235.240|talk]]) 22:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

::There is also a tool called "ipython" which makes the interactive mode much richer for doing things like editing and reimporting files. --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]] ([[User talk:Fubar Obfusco|talk]]) 04:29, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== Are Blu Ray players compatible with DVDs and/or CDs? ==

I know DVD players can play CDs, but what about Blu Ray? Can Blu Ray play DVDs or CDs, or is it entirely different? [[User:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 22:27, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

:See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Backward_compatibility Blu-ray Backward compatibility]. [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 22:32, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, I looked in the article a few minutes ago, but apparently not closely enough. [[User:GO-PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:PCHS-NJROTC|<font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages)</font>]]</sup> 22:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

= October 18 =

== Making a binary file from hex data in the command line... ==

If I have a binary file that I want to print it out as hex data in a terminal, you can just use the "[[od (Unix)|od]] -h" command. Is there any way you can do the reverse, that is, have a bunch of hex data and assemble it into a binary file? [[Special:Contributions/83.250.228.169|83.250.228.169]] ([[User talk:83.250.228.169|talk]]) 00:44, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

:xxd can do hexdumps and reverse. --[[Special:Contributions/194.197.235.240|194.197.235.240]] ([[User talk:194.197.235.240|talk]]) 00:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

:Just <code>echo -e '\x''##''\x''##''' >file</code> should work, if it's not a problem to put the data on the command line in that format. If you'd rather, <code>perl -e 'while(read STDIN,$_,2) {print chr hex;}'</code> will read a ''solid'' block of hex from stdin (no spaces or newlines) and write the corresponding data on stdout. Variations could easily be made to handle different input formats. --[[User:Tardis|Tardis]] ([[User talk:Tardis|talk]]) 01:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

::Similarly in Python, strings have <code>.encode</code> and <code>.decode</code> methods for translating them into specific encodings, one of which is hex. So <code>"foo".encode("hex")</code> returns <code>"666f6f"</code>, and <code>"666f6f".decode("hex")</code> returns <code>"foo"</code>. --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]] ([[User talk:Fubar Obfusco|talk]]) 04:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== ref tag in html? ==

Is there such a thing similar to the ref tag in wikipedia? I know that you can use an anchor to duplicate it, but when you add an anchor link in between two others, you have to change the ones after it and if you have like 100 references, you have to do a ton of work. So does anyone know if there is a way similar to the ref tag in wikipedia in html or something else (cascading style sheets etc). <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Renassault|Renassault]] ([[User talk:Renassault|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Renassault|contribs]]) 04:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:We have this - [[Template:Anchor]]. [[User:Nimur|Nimur]] ([[User talk:Nimur|talk]]) 04:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

::sorry, I don't understand what that says (I think it talks about how to do it on a template). Is it saying you can't do it with <a name="x">? (also, sorry, I dont know how to sign my name). <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Renassault|Renassault]] ([[User talk:Renassault|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Renassault|contribs]]) 04:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Here you go. I just made one up for you:
<source lang="html4strict"><html>
<head>
<script type='text/javascript'>
function setRefs()
{
for (i=0; i < document.getElementsByTagName("span").length; i++)
{
document.getElementsByTagName("span")[i].innerHTML = '<sup><a href="#references">' + (i+1) + '</a></sup>';
}
}
</script>
</head>
<body onload="setRefs()">
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,<span></span> consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et
dolore magna aliqua.<span></span> Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex
ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat
nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim
id est laborum
</body>
</html></source>

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== Google search has changed ==

I just noticed, when I go to use Google to search for something, the "search" and "I feel lucky" buttons have disappeared. Is it just me, or has Google made [http://www.google.com/ their front page] like this for everyone? [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] ([[User talk:Astronaut|talk]]) 05:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:They're there, no doubt about it. Wanna screenshot? --[[User:Ouro|Ouro]] <small>([[User_talk:Ouro|blah blah]])</small> 06:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::No, I believe you. Does Google now have a fade-in effect? [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] ([[User talk:Astronaut|talk]]) 06:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:::It's a [http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/05/googles-experimental-homepage-fades-to-a-single-word/ feature they've been testing out]. [[User:Indeterminate|Indeterminate]] ([[User talk:Indeterminate|talk]]) 08:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

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December 9

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Windows Diagnostic Memory tool

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How long would you expect it to take to do 96GB RAM? I heard an hour per 8GB—sound reasonable? SerialNumber54129 18:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That guy was a fucking idiot. Took less than two hours. SerialNumber54129 11:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This conversation makes no sense. Care to elaborate, @Serial Number 54129? TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheTechie: Serial Number 54129 asked how long it would take to run Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool on a pc with 96GB RAM. They heard it took an hour per 8GB, so that would be 12 hours for 96GB. Then they say that they tried it and that it took less than 2 hours. Polygnotus (talk) 15:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Polygnotus . I admit I was somewhat brusque about my informant  :) SerialNumber54129A New Face in Hell 16:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 10

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Youtube videos switching in the middle to Chinese people doing ordinary things

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I see that others are encountering the same problem.[1] Has anybody come up with a fix yet? Clarityfiend (talk) 05:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid videos with crocheting Chinese ladies and such – if that's not your thing – make sure the video is from the original channel and not some pirated and hacked video. The name of the channel (such as Eyewitness News ABC7NY, Jimmy Kimmel Live, ESPN MBL, ...) is given below the title of the video. Pirated videos come from an unfamiliar channel; other than that, everything looks the same as the legit video.  --Lambiam 07:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aaah, thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 11

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Quote marks will not appear until I type a second one

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Hello all. I have a seemingly one-off, weird and annoying issue. I am using an HP laptop computer:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
System Model HP Spectre x360 Convertible
Version 10.0.19045
Build 19045

Every time I type a quote mark on this computer (or an apostrophe using the same keyboard key without shifting) nothing happens. It is only when I invoke the character key a second time (in a row, without moving the cursor) that anything happens, which is that, only then, TWO quote marks appear. I then I have to delete one of them. Same thing for apostrophes, though I use quotes far more frequently. This happens anywhere I attempt to type the character, including when I placed this one " right now. Please note that the key is not gummed up or anything, it always works to place the two after I type the character the second time. Any ideas? --68.129.153.226 (talk) 17:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When did this start happening? Has it always been like this? If not, what changed? Be honest. MinorProphet (talk) 20:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My 13-year old Mac Mini has stopped working. (I have already purchased a new computer, arriving in about two weeks.) I thus borrowed this HP from my sister a week ago, whereupon I discovered this issue. I thus have no idea of the timeline of the problem.--68.129.153.226 (talk) 21:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What happens if you type a single ' or ", followed by some other character, like a letter?
It sounds like you're in some strange mode which is attempting to interpret various multi-keystroke sequences. Those can be perfectly ordinary — for example, as you may know, on a Mac you can type Option-U to get a bare umlaut, which when you then type a letter like A or U combines with it to form Ä or Ü. But obviously these " and ' sequences you're encountering are bizarre and unwanted! (I've never heard of combining sequences starting with " or ', either.)
My guess is that these sequences are defined for the convenience of typists in some language other than English. I would go to the relevant control panel — perhaps "Keyboard", although under Windows I'm not sure — and make sure you've got English specified as your language, with no funny extra options specified. —scs (talk) 22:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per the below, it sounds like you might well see different behavior depending on whether you type the " or ' followed by a vowel like A or U, versus a consonant like B or S. —scs (talk) 22:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes you're right. When you're on the international keyboard (or other non-English one) if you type a quote and then a vowel you get an umlaut. With this keyboard layout the first time you press a quote key it will not type it, and you have to press it twice to type a quote.
On Windows 10, on the bottom right, to the left of the date and time, there is an area where you can click to change the keyboard layout. For the international keyboard it is "ENG INTL". If you click it you can change to the normal keyboard, "ENG" or "ENG US" or whatever you prefer. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See dead key. I suppose your system is configured to see ' and " as dead keys, producing no direct output, but combining with the next character you type to create a letter with acute accent or two dots. I haven't used Windows since XP days, but I suppose that if the following character doesn't accept those diacritics, the ' or " is inserted after all. Try switching to a different keyboard layout. PiusImpavidus (talk) 10:37, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have you tried a "+space sequence? I've seen such behavior of a keyboard in Windows when working in a language with diacritic letters. It simulates old typewriter - hit a diacritic symbol first, which gets printed with no carriage move, then hit a letter, which gets printed at the same place and then a carriage advances to a next position. Following this mode you hit a diacritic + space sequence to get a diacritic symbol alone. --CiaPan (talk) 15:38, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, 68.129.153.226, we're all agog to know whether any of our suggestions have worked. Be honest. MinorProphet (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am on Windows 10 on Dell laptop. I have experienced this behavior and I suspect it started after some OS update.
But note that, when you wish to include anything in double/single quote, you must continue to type as usual. The double/single quote becomes visible only after you type any following character (not just single/double quote).
You may be already aware of it, but I thought if you don't know, it will be less frustrating experience once you know how it works. manya (talk) 06:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 13

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Where can I find a thesis of recently released Gemini 2.0?

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For Gemini 1.5, I find its thesis.

What about recently released Gemini 2.0? HarryOrange (talk) 21:53, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here?  --Lambiam 21:55, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK That's Gemini 2.0 release information. HarryOrange (talk) 16:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 15

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Questions About New Laptop Computer

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My old laptop computer developed problems with the power, so that it wouldn't start when connected to regular line current. It would start when connected to high-amperage current in an electronics store, but that wasn't useful, and it was time to replace it after five years. I now have some questions about problems with a new laptop computer. The new laptop computer is an HP running Windows 11. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cursor Jumping Randomly

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Sometimes when I am typing in a Word document or editing Wikipedia in a source window, I discover that the cursor isn't where I think it should be. The cursor has jumped to somewhere else on the screen, apparently randomly. I have to do a Ctrl-Z to undo what I typed in the wrong place, and then move the cursor back to where I want it. If this is caused by line noise, how do I minimize the impact? How likely is that a new mouse would resolve the problem? Are there any settings that I should diddle with? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First thing I would do is give the mouse and mousepad a good clean and disconnect and reconnect it. Shantavira|feed me 09:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly due to your hand brushing the trackpad while typing. If you have a mouse, you could experiment with disabling the trackpad: how to disable touchpad on hp laptop. Or even just try turning it off while typing. This erratic caret jumping used to happen to me a lot, too, when my laptop was new, until I found the key to disable the trackpad.
The term caret or insertion point is useful to exclude the mouse cursor (the pointer) from searches.  Card Zero  (talk) 12:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, User:Card Zero. I disabled the touchpad. For users who always use a mouse, the touchpad is a complication. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I now have a possibly useless question. The documentation referred to an option that disables the touchpad when there is a mouse, but the only option that I found in the settings is the option that always disables the touchpad. I would like to specify that the touchpad is disabled when there is a mouse, and enable it if there is no mouse. This makes very little difference because I will always use a mouse. Is it possible that that option isn't available on my computer? This isn't important. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Network File Sharing

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With the old laptop, I had set up network file sharing, so that the laptop computer could view and edit files in shared folders on my desktop computer, a Dell, also running Windows 11, if they were both within range of my wireless router (and the desktop computer always is). The desktop computer could also access files in shared folders on the laptop, if the laptop was I have tried to set up network file sharing with the new laptop computer. I tried calling the technical support offered by the electronics chain that I bought the computers from, and I made seven calls to them, none of which worked, and I have concluded that their technical support people don't know what they are doing, and, worse, don't know the limits of their knowledge. Does anyone have advice on a book that will tell me how to set up network file sharing with Windows 11, that has neither too little nor too much information for a retired database engineer? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon Did you try this? TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 20:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:TheTechie - Thank you. That describes the basics, and describes what I had done successfully with the previous laptop computer. I need either a much greater level of detail, or a troubleshooting guide, or something like that. That was helpful in that it doesn't point out anything that I am doing wrong. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 19

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Scanning all available streams

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Hello there. I'm have a question: How to scan all available online streams from a specified server and port given? For example, I've found a Wowza Streaming Engine server at 115.79.46.164 and port 1935. I want to know which website or software can help me to find all active streams on this server. Thanks for reading. Ccv2020 (talk) 14:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

nmap -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 17:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

.kp domains

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How many .kp domains are there? Gnu779 (talk) 13:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see .kp#Existing_and_externally_accessible_domain_list? Polygnotus (talk) 19:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.northkoreatech.org/the-north-korean-website-list/ is a bit outdated but has more background info. Polygnotus (talk) 19:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok, bro. I can still view the outdated ones with the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive. Thanks, Gnu779 (talk) 16:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 23

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