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==POV==
I can't say that referring to the offenders are "deluded" is really an example of neutral POV, though I suppose there is a question of whether or not neutrality is needed, or even proper, in a case like this.[[User:Evil bacteria|Evil bacteria]] ([[User talk:Evil bacteria|talk]]) 20:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I can't say that referring to the offenders are "deluded" is really an example of neutral POV, though I suppose there is a question of whether or not neutrality is needed, or even proper, in a case like this.[[User:Evil bacteria|Evil bacteria]] ([[User talk:Evil bacteria|talk]]) 20:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

==Revert of article name vs. consensus policy==
User: Kevin McE reverted User:Plot Spoiler changes of the name this article to "honor killing." Rather than try to find a WP:consensus through WP:Bold Revert Discuss, User:Plat Spoiler just reverted them back. Plot spoiler also did this at four other articles. Elsewhere User:Plot Spoiler's excuse has been "no one had edited the articles in a while." We all can find semi-abandoned articles and make controversial changes to their names. But once someone objects and reverts, we have to discuss. That's what WP:Consensus is all about. I think it is a violation of WP:Consensus for Plot Spoiler not to revert these until consensus to change them is reached.

This discussion has been going on at [[Talk:Honor_killing_of_Sadia_Sheikh#Requested_move]] but since all six articles are different, it is not clear that all would have the same resultant name change. ''[[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]]'' 17:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

:No, he didn't. As I've already explained to you [[Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Back_to_the_WP:Consensus_violation_issue|at the dispute resolution noticeboard]] and [[Talk:Honor killing of Sadia Sheikh]], Plot Spoiler changed from one title to another; Kevin McE changed to a ''third''. [[Samaira Nazir]] was changed to Honor killing of Samaira Nazir. Kevin McE ''did not'' revert him; he moved the article to [[Killing of Samaira Nazir]]: an entirely new title. All of this is in the history. It's important not to accuse people of violating policies when they have not. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 20:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

::In that case, User:Plot Spoiler still should have reverted to the original name since User:Kevin McE had a problem with his change to "honor killing." This is a good example of why when people start changing titles, it should revert to the original while discussions are going on. Especially when they do five or six at a time. The onus remains on User:Plot Spoiler to do the right thing. ''[[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]]'' 04:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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I can't say that referring to the offenders are "deluded" is really an example of neutral POV, though I suppose there is a question of whether or not neutrality is needed, or even proper, in a case like this.Evil bacteria (talk) 20:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revert of article name vs. consensus policy

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User: Kevin McE reverted User:Plot Spoiler changes of the name this article to "honor killing." Rather than try to find a WP:consensus through WP:Bold Revert Discuss, User:Plat Spoiler just reverted them back. Plot spoiler also did this at four other articles. Elsewhere User:Plot Spoiler's excuse has been "no one had edited the articles in a while." We all can find semi-abandoned articles and make controversial changes to their names. But once someone objects and reverts, we have to discuss. That's what WP:Consensus is all about. I think it is a violation of WP:Consensus for Plot Spoiler not to revert these until consensus to change them is reached.

This discussion has been going on at Talk:Honor_killing_of_Sadia_Sheikh#Requested_move but since all six articles are different, it is not clear that all would have the same resultant name change. CarolMooreDC 17:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, he didn't. As I've already explained to you at the dispute resolution noticeboard and Talk:Honor killing of Sadia Sheikh, Plot Spoiler changed from one title to another; Kevin McE changed to a third. Samaira Nazir was changed to Honor killing of Samaira Nazir. Kevin McE did not revert him; he moved the article to Killing of Samaira Nazir: an entirely new title. All of this is in the history. It's important not to accuse people of violating policies when they have not. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, User:Plot Spoiler still should have reverted to the original name since User:Kevin McE had a problem with his change to "honor killing." This is a good example of why when people start changing titles, it should revert to the original while discussions are going on. Especially when they do five or six at a time. The onus remains on User:Plot Spoiler to do the right thing. CarolMooreDC 04:19, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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