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The result was nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 03:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jean René Baroux

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~~Hoax.~~ Article appeared on French Wikipedia on the 7th and is ~~also tagged as a hoax there~~ tagged for verifiability. No trace of this chap in an online search. Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC) Both articles created by same chap. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC) [reply]

~~No hits anywhere for the book listed in the article.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 09:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)~~[reply]

~~NB - Twinkle flubbed, so I have had to list this by hand, hence discrepancy in dates. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 09:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)~~[reply]

Nom struck as per below - happy to say I was wrong in this instance. Would an uninvolved editor like to WP:SNOW close.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:55, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep See [1] concerning Baroux and AQPCS. and [2] also linking Baroux and AQPCS - and RS by WP standards. French admittedly, but sufficient to establish reality and notability. As for the book -- abebooks (owned by Amazon) shows 4 for sale. "No hits" on a book should include looking on a bookselling list. Collect (talk) 14:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a more "official" reference to the Book based in the National Library of Canada filed there in 1982:

* La Méditation Intime (The Intimate Meditation) by Jean Baroux (1982): National Library of Canada  [3]

--James debar (talk) 19:48, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The external links (sources) which have just been added should provide sufficient evidence to credit and support this page. It should be retained on Wikipedia. --James debar (talk) 20:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Accusations of hoax struck, Library and Archives Canada definitely have a book by this guy [4] If no one else is interested enough to comment on this AfD, I guess we keep the article and James Debar gets to tell us more about the chap. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:ANYBIO: "the person has received a notable award or honor." Surely the Croix de guerre would qualify? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result was    '''nomination withdrawn'''. ([[Wikipedia:non-admin closure|non-admin closure]]) [[User:Tim Song|Tim Song]] ([[User talk:Tim Song|talk]]) 03:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
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-Hoax.  Article appeared on [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ren%C3%A9_Baroux French Wikipedia] on the 7th and is <s>also tagged as a hoax there</s> tagged for verifiability.  No trace of this chap in an online search.  [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 23:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC) Both articles created by same chap. --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 23:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
+<s>Hoax. </s> <s>Article appeared on [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ren%C3%A9_Baroux French Wikipedia] on the 7th and is <s>also tagged as a hoax there</s> tagged for verifiability.  No trace of this chap in an online search.  [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 23:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC) Both articles created by same chap. --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 23:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
+No hits anywhere for the book listed in the article.--[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 09:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)</s>
+<s>NB - Twinkle flubbed, so I have had to list this by hand, hence discrepancy in dates. --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 09:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)</s>
+'''Nom struck as per below''' - happy to say I was wrong in this instance.  Would an uninvolved editor like to [[WP:SNOW]] close.--[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 12:55, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' See [http://www.acs.qc.ca/IMG/pdf/omni_printemps_2002.pdf]  concerning Baroux and AQPCS. and [http://www.sciencepresse.qc.ca/node/22257] also linking Baroux and AQPCS - and RS by WP standards.   French admittedly, but sufficient to establish reality and notability.   As for the book -- abebooks (owned by Amazon) shows 4 for sale.  "No hits" on a book should include looking on a bookselling list. [[User:Collect|Collect]] ([[User talk:Collect|talk]]) 14:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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+Here is a more "official" reference to the Book based in the National Library of Canada filed there in 1982:
+ * ''La Méditation Intime (The Intimate Meditation)'' by Jean Baroux (1982): National Library of Canada  [http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/lac-bac/results/all?FormName=Fed+Results&PageNum=1&SortSpec=score+desc&Language=eng&QueryParser=lac_&Sources=&Archives=&SearchIn_1=&Operator_1=AND&SearchIn_2=&SearchInText_2=&Operator_2=AND&SearchIn_3=&SearchInText_3=&MaterialDateOperator=after&MaterialDate=&ResultCount=5&SourceQuery=&Sources_1=amicus&Sources_2=mikan&Sources_3=genapp&Sources_4=web&soundex=&cainInd=0&SearchInText_1=la+meditation+intime]
+<br />--[[User:James debar|James debar]] ([[User talk:James debar|talk]]) 19:48, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
+The external links (sources) which have just been added should provide sufficient ''evidence'' to credit and support this page. It should be retained on Wikipedia.
-No hits anywhere for the book listed in the article.--[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 09:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
+--[[User:James debar|James debar]] ([[User talk:James debar|talk]]) 20:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
+Accusations of hoax struck, Library and Archives Canada definitely have a book by this guy [http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/lac-bac/results/all?FormName=Fed+Results&PageNum=1&SortSpec=score+desc&Language=eng&QueryParser=lac_&Sources=&Archives=&SearchIn_1=&Operator_1=AND&SearchIn_2=&SearchInText_2=&Operator_2=AND&SearchIn_3=&SearchInText_3=&MaterialDateOperator=after&MaterialDate=&ResultCount=5&SourceQuery=&Sources_1=amicus&Sources_2=mikan&Sources_3=genapp&Sources_4=web&soundex=&cainInd=0&SearchInText_1=la+meditation+intime]  If no one else is interested enough to comment on this AfD, I guess we keep the article and James Debar gets to tell us more about the chap. [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 22:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
-NB - Twinkle flubbed, so I have had to list this by hand, hence discrepancy in dates. --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 09:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' per [[WP:ANYBIO]]: "the person has received a notable award or honor." Surely the [[Croix de guerre]] would qualify? [[User:Shawn in Montreal|Shawn in Montreal]] ([[User talk:Shawn in Montreal|talk]]) 03:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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