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The result was delete. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Leader (band)

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I can find no significant coverage in independent reliable sources for this band to show that they pass the general notability guideline and no evidence that the labels on which their albums were released are of the stature required for WP:BAND criterion 5. I'll admit to some prejudice here as I feel that the link to this article at the top of Kim Jong-il disfigures that article, but I've tried to disregard that and still don't think that this band is notable. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If this survives the AfD I recomend a disambig page for Dear Leader because having the band link to such a non-notable band at the top of the Kim Jong-il article is a joke. Polargeo (talk) 15:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If they are deleted turn Dear Leader back to a redirect. Polargeo (talk) 16:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —J04n(talk page) 19:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I added some references from reliable sources. - Eastmain (talk) 21:02, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Eastmain's references are local. Joe Chill (talk) 21:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Local Boston band. Won Local album award. Their music is released on a local Boston record label (actually it turns out the drummer owned the record label so you could say self-released). Coverage only local. Polargeo (talk) 15:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, needs more significant coverage than is present. Nyttend (talk) 16:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Members come from three other notable bands (The Sheila Divine, Orbit, and Tugboat Annie) and has received non-trivial coverage in The Boston Globe and Boston Herald (despite Joe Chill and Polargo's assertions to the contrary, "locality" does not negate a source's reliability or independence from the subject) and won a notable award (again locality doesn't make a Boston Music Award non-notable). Passes WP:BAND. TheJazzDalek (talk) 01:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 I can find no significant coverage in independent reliable sources for this band to show that they pass the [[WP:general notability guideline|general notability guideline]] and no evidence that the labels on which their albums were released are of the stature required for [[WP:BAND]] criterion 5. I'll admit to some prejudice here as I feel that the link to this article at the top of [[Kim Jong-il]] disfigures that article, but I've tried to disregard that and still don't think that this band is notable. [[User:Phil Bridger|Phil Bridger]] ([[User talk:Phil Bridger|talk]]) 19:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
-:If this survives the AfD I definitely suggest a disambig page for [[Dear Leader]] because having the band link to such a non-notable band at the op of the Kim Jong-il article is a joke. [[User:Polargeo|Polargeo]] ([[User talk:Polargeo|talk]]) 15:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
+:<s>If this survives the AfD I recomend a disambig page for [[Dear Leader]] because having the band link to such a non-notable band at the top of the Kim Jong-il article is a joke. [[User:Polargeo|Polargeo]] ([[User talk:Polargeo|talk]]) 15:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)</s>
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+:If they are deleted turn [[Dear Leader]] back to a redirect. [[User:Polargeo|Polargeo]] ([[User talk:Polargeo|talk]]) 16:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
+*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Bands and musicians|list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Delsort--></small><small>—<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;">[[User:J04n|J04n]]([[User talk:J04n|talk page]])</span> 19:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)</small>
 *'''Comment'''. I added some references from reliable sources. - [[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] ([[User talk:Eastmain|talk]]) 21:02, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''': Eastmain's references are local. [[User:Joe Chill|Joe Chill]] ([[User talk:Joe Chill|talk]]) 21:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
-*'''Delete''' Local Boston band. Won ''Local album'' award. Their music is released on a local Boston record label. Coverage only local. [[User:Polargeo|Polargeo]] ([[User talk:Polargeo|talk]]) 15:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Local Boston band. Won ''Local album'' award. Their music is released on a local Boston record label (actually it turns out the drummer owned the record label so you could say self-released). Coverage only local. [[User:Polargeo|Polargeo]] ([[User talk:Polargeo|talk]]) 15:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''', needs more significant coverage than is present.  [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 16:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' Members come from three other notable bands ([[The Sheila Divine]], [[Orbit (band)|Orbit]], and [[Tugboat Annie (band)|Tugboat Annie]]) and has received non-trivial coverage in ''[[The Boston Globe]]'' and ''[[Boston Herald]]'' (despite Joe Chill and Polargo's assertions to the contrary, "locality" does not negate a source's reliability or independence from the subject) and won a notable award (again locality doesn't make a [[Boston Music Award]] non-notable). Passes [[WP:BAND]]. [[User:TheJazzDalek|TheJazzDalek]] ([[User talk:TheJazzDalek|talk]]) 01:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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