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== Scheduling ==
== Scheduling ==
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Don't you think that some of the information should be edited? The article is too long and I don't find the Scheduling part that important.. There's even a photo of Obama ?! [[User:Bai brother|Bai brother]] ([[User talk:Bai brother|talk]]) 09:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Don't you think that some of the information should be edited? The article is too long and I don't find the Scheduling part that important.. There's even a photo of Obama ?! [[User:Bai brother|Bai brother]] ([[User talk:Bai brother|talk]]) 09:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


:Doesn't the coverage in multiple reliable sources indicate that the scheduling part is notable? '''''[[User:Theleftorium|<font color="AE0937">The</font>]][[User talk:Theleftorium|<font color="AD4740">left</font><font color="C6454E">orium</font>]]''''' 15:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:Doesn't the coverage in multiple reliable sources indicate that the scheduling part is notable? '''''[[User:Theleftorium|<span style="color:#AE0937;">The</span>]][[User talk:Theleftorium|<span style="color:#AD4740;">left</span><span style="color:#C6454E;">orium</span>]]''''' 15:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


::It probably could be condensed a little bit, but there is not that much to write about with regard to plot and production as the episode has not aired yet and security is tighter than ever on ''Lost'', so that section certainly seems bloated right now. Hopefully, it will eventually look something like "[[Meet Kevin Johnson]]", which has a bunch of scheduling information, but is balanced by other aspects and of course, the numerous citations. But this is the second time a contributor has rejected the Obama image, so I have removed it, as the only reason that I added it was to increase the article's chances at a [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]] hook, but it was opposed there too. –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 01:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
::It probably could be condensed a little bit, but there is not that much to write about with regard to plot and production as the episode has not aired yet and security is tighter than ever on ''Lost'', so that section certainly seems bloated right now. Hopefully, it will eventually look something like "[[Meet Kevin Johnson]]", which has a bunch of scheduling information, but is balanced by other aspects and of course, the numerous citations. But this is the second time a contributor has rejected the Obama image, so I have removed it, as the only reason that I added it was to increase the article's chances at a [[Template talk:Did you know|DYK]] hook, but it was opposed there too. –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 01:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
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::I agree with JpGrB, "LA X" was produced and aired as one episode. Although the pilot was also produced as one episode, it was later split up and aired on two different days, with two sets of credits. --[[User:Jackieboy87|Jackieboy87]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Jackieboy87|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Jackieboy87|contribs]]) 23:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
::I agree with JpGrB, "LA X" was produced and aired as one episode. Although the pilot was also produced as one episode, it was later split up and aired on two different days, with two sets of credits. --[[User:Jackieboy87|Jackieboy87]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Jackieboy87|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Jackieboy87|contribs]]) 23:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

:::I agree with tehpearbear—I think that we should start splitting all multi-parter episode plots into parts, like they will be aired in syndication and are on the DVDs lately. –'''[[User:thedemonhog|<span style="color:#B22222">thedemonhog</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/thedemonhog|<span style="color:green">edits</span>]]''</small> 01:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Richard in chains ==

The Man in Black indicated that Richard came to the island as a slave on the Black Rock by saying "nice to see you not in chains anymore" (or similar). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.77.210.175|92.77.210.175]] ([[User talk:92.77.210.175|talk]]) 00:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Well, per [[WP:RS]], we don't go by things that are "''indicated''". <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 00:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


== Summary of Plot question ==
== Summary of Plot question ==
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That actually brings up a rather good point, he did say that he wanted off the island, just the opposite of John Locke desire never to go home. -tehpearbear <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.84.47.32|24.84.47.32]] ([[User talk:24.84.47.32|talk]]) 00:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
That actually brings up a rather good point, he did say that he wanted off the island, just the opposite of John Locke desire never to go home. -tehpearbear <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.84.47.32|24.84.47.32]] ([[User talk:24.84.47.32|talk]]) 00:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I actually don't remember him saying anything like "off the Island". <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 00:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:I actually don't remember him saying anything like "off the Island". <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 00:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::The exact words he says are "Well that's the great irony here Ben because, I want the one thing John Locke didn't. I want to go home." You are correct, he never mentioned leavn the island at all. I think that inferences have bee drawn by some editors into what that means, which is to leave the island. That is not true. I don't believe he also said that was his "true goal" either, just something he wants to go home, unlike John Locke. [[User:Calvinkarpenko|Calvin]] ([[User talk:Calvinkarpenko|talk]]) 22:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


== Trivia ==
== Trivia ==
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Source: http://lostcontinuity.blogspot.com/2010/02/la-x-sayids-passport.html
Source: http://lostcontinuity.blogspot.com/2010/02/la-x-sayids-passport.html
:That's nice and everything, but per [[WP:TRIVIA]] we shouldn't address it. <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 00:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:That's nice and everything, but per [[WP:TRIVIA]] we shouldn't address it. <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 00:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:: If you read the replies people posted there, it might be Nadia's passport, as the customs sheet (on the left) says Sayid's name, flight number, and "IRAQ". --'''<span id="Dexter_prog" class="plainlinks" >[[User:Dexter_prog|Dexter_prog]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Dexter_prog|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Dexter_prog|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/ec/{{urlencode:Dexter_prog}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>]</span>)''' @ 14:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Dexter, was that towards me? <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 18:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Kudos ==
Kudos to the editors for creating yet another wonderful Lost article. [[User:A Quest For Knowledge|A Quest For Knowledge]] ([[User talk:A Quest For Knowledge|talk]]) 02:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Centric character(s) ==

Shouldn't we indicate the LA X centric characters on the page, like, for example, ''"[[Exodus (Lost)]]"''? If you agree to this, I might recommend indicating Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sun & Jin, Sayid and Locke or maybe simply Hurley and Jack. --[[User:Jal11497|Jal11497]] ([[User talk:Jal11497|talk]]) 12:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:Not all episodes have a "centric character". Some are "multi-centric", in which case we usually put "various" or "none". <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 18:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Sun, afraid or unable to speak? ==
Is sun afriad, or is she unable to speak English in the 2004 part of this episode? Hurley is different, Boon doesn't have shannon, its not a stretch to say that she never learnt english before this trip in the original timeline? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.28.115.77|86.28.115.77]] ([[User talk:86.28.115.77|talk]]) 22:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:In the podcast released recently, "DameCar" specifically said they left that open to interpretation for now. <span>--'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]'''</span> 00:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yet people keep reverting changes to make it more ambigious. We also don't know if they're married, since she was called by her maiden name- which would imply not although since some women do use their maiden we can't say for sure. --[[User:TheTruthiness|TheTruthiness]] ([[User talk:TheTruthiness|talk]]) 01:14, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Production numbers ==

The article states that this episode has two production numbers. 601 and 602. Where is the source for this, or it is just assumed?--[[User:Baker1000|Baker1000]] ([[User talk:Baker1000|talk]]) 02:09, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

:ABC uses the numbers 601 and 602 to refer to each half of the episode for their online player.[http://abc.go.com/shows/lost/about-the-show] --[[User:Jackieboy87|Jackieboy87]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Jackieboy87|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Jackieboy87|contribs]]) 02:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Parallel Universe? ==

The lead say LAX "introduces a new narrative device, parallel universes". Is there any reference to the fact that we're seeing two separate "universes"? This seems to be [[WP:OR]], someone's opinion of what we're seeing. "flash-sideway" is a mere name given by ABC, that could just as well be an attempt to mislead viewers. We don't actually know what going on yet. [[User:Poliocretes|Poliocretes]] ([[User talk:Poliocretes|talk]]) 17:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

The X suffix is often used in comics to indicate an alternative universe. Which is why it's called LA-X. [[User:Kwenchin|Kwenchin]] ([[User talk:Kwenchin|talk]]) 14:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

:In the latest podcast, the producers said there are "two distinct timelines" that are "equally real" and called the scenes "flash sideways". Until now, I was unaware that the article said "parallel universe", which definitely doesn't belong. --[[User:Jackieboy87|Jackieboy87]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Jackieboy87|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Jackieboy87|contribs]]) 18:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

The idea of parallel universes (at least in some science fiction (since they are after all only narrative devices)) is that at a significant event there is a split with one universe going one way and the other universe going another way diverging off at a tangent.[[User:Kwenchin|Kwenchin]] ([[User talk:Kwenchin|talk]]) 14:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I noticed this topic hasn't been touched since the finale many years ago. Should we now change the "timeline" aspect of this since we now understand from the finale that the "sideways" flashes in season 6 weren't a parallel universe, but an afterlife? [[Special:Contributions/2604:3D08:5581:9100:D023:B501:6712:2C25|2604:3D08:5581:9100:D023:B501:6712:2C25]] ([[User talk:2604:3D08:5581:9100:D023:B501:6712:2C25|talk]]) 18:54, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

== Removed Henry Ian Cusick from guest stars ==

He was billed as a regular, as was he for What Kate Did (which he didn't appear in). --[[Special:Contributions/76.208.71.124|76.208.71.124]] ([[User talk:76.208.71.124|talk]]) 17:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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Is it possible that [[LA X (Lost)]] would fit [[WP:CRITERIA]] better? [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 01:32, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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Scheduling

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Don't you think that some of the information should be edited? The article is too long and I don't find the Scheduling part that important.. There's even a photo of Obama ?! Bai brother (talk) 09:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't the coverage in multiple reliable sources indicate that the scheduling part is notable? Theleftorium 15:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It probably could be condensed a little bit, but there is not that much to write about with regard to plot and production as the episode has not aired yet and security is tighter than ever on Lost, so that section certainly seems bloated right now. Hopefully, it will eventually look something like "Meet Kevin Johnson", which has a bunch of scheduling information, but is balanced by other aspects and of course, the numerous citations. But this is the second time a contributor has rejected the Obama image, so I have removed it, as the only reason that I added it was to increase the article's chances at a DYK hook, but it was opposed there too. –thedemonhog talkedits 01:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Part 1 and part 2

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Shouldn't the plot be separated into two parts as it is a two part episode? The earlier edit seemed to provide more relative information. -tehpearbear

Agreed. --CooperSimply (talk) 22:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly disagree. We don't do it like that. It's one episode, just two parts. It's supposed to be viewed as one, therefor it should be written as one. --HELLØ ŦHERE 22:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with JpGrB, "LA X" was produced and aired as one episode. Although the pilot was also produced as one episode, it was later split up and aired on two different days, with two sets of credits. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 23:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with tehpearbear—I think that we should start splitting all multi-parter episode plots into parts, like they will be aired in syndication and are on the DVDs lately. –thedemonhog talkedits 01:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Richard in chains

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The Man in Black indicated that Richard came to the island as a slave on the Black Rock by saying "nice to see you not in chains anymore" (or similar). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.77.210.175 (talk) 00:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, per WP:RS, we don't go by things that are "indicated". --HELLØ ŦHERE 00:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Summary of Plot question

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"The Man in Black then explains to Ben that his true goal is to leave the island and return home." I don't recall him saying (or implying) that he wants to leave the island, just that he wants to return home. What I gathered from the episode is that his home is the temple. I think the "leave the island" part should be removed. But then again, I may have misunderstood what was said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.242.250.130 (talk) 13:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That actually brings up a rather good point, he did say that he wanted off the island, just the opposite of John Locke desire never to go home. -tehpearbear —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.47.32 (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I actually don't remember him saying anything like "off the Island". --HELLØ ŦHERE 00:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The exact words he says are "Well that's the great irony here Ben because, I want the one thing John Locke didn't. I want to go home." You are correct, he never mentioned leavn the island at all. I think that inferences have bee drawn by some editors into what that means, which is to leave the island. That is not true. I don't believe he also said that was his "true goal" either, just something he wants to go home, unlike John Locke. Calvin (talk) 22:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia

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Sayid's Iranian Passport

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In the plane before landing at LAX, Sayid's passport is shown looking at Nadia's photo. You can notice that he has an Iranian passport, although he's Iraqi. Maybe a glitch?

Source: http://lostcontinuity.blogspot.com/2010/02/la-x-sayids-passport.html

That's nice and everything, but per WP:TRIVIA we shouldn't address it. --HELLØ ŦHERE 00:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you read the replies people posted there, it might be Nadia's passport, as the customs sheet (on the left) says Sayid's name, flight number, and "IRAQ". --Dexter_prog (talk contribs count) @ 14:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dexter, was that towards me? --HELLØ ŦHERE 18:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos

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Kudos to the editors for creating yet another wonderful Lost article. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 02:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Centric character(s)

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Shouldn't we indicate the LA X centric characters on the page, like, for example, "Exodus (Lost)"? If you agree to this, I might recommend indicating Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sun & Jin, Sayid and Locke or maybe simply Hurley and Jack. --Jal11497 (talk) 12:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not all episodes have a "centric character". Some are "multi-centric", in which case we usually put "various" or "none". --HELLØ ŦHERE 18:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sun, afraid or unable to speak?

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Is sun afriad, or is she unable to speak English in the 2004 part of this episode? Hurley is different, Boon doesn't have shannon, its not a stretch to say that she never learnt english before this trip in the original timeline? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.115.77 (talk) 22:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In the podcast released recently, "DameCar" specifically said they left that open to interpretation for now. --HELLØ ŦHERE 00:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yet people keep reverting changes to make it more ambigious. We also don't know if they're married, since she was called by her maiden name- which would imply not although since some women do use their maiden we can't say for sure. --TheTruthiness (talk) 01:14, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Production numbers

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The article states that this episode has two production numbers. 601 and 602. Where is the source for this, or it is just assumed?--Baker1000 (talk) 02:09, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ABC uses the numbers 601 and 602 to refer to each half of the episode for their online player.[1] --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 02:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Parallel Universe?

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The lead say LAX "introduces a new narrative device, parallel universes". Is there any reference to the fact that we're seeing two separate "universes"? This seems to be WP:OR, someone's opinion of what we're seeing. "flash-sideway" is a mere name given by ABC, that could just as well be an attempt to mislead viewers. We don't actually know what going on yet. Poliocretes (talk) 17:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The X suffix is often used in comics to indicate an alternative universe. Which is why it's called LA-X. Kwenchin (talk) 14:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In the latest podcast, the producers said there are "two distinct timelines" that are "equally real" and called the scenes "flash sideways". Until now, I was unaware that the article said "parallel universe", which definitely doesn't belong. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 18:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The idea of parallel universes (at least in some science fiction (since they are after all only narrative devices)) is that at a significant event there is a split with one universe going one way and the other universe going another way diverging off at a tangent.Kwenchin (talk) 14:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed this topic hasn't been touched since the finale many years ago. Should we now change the "timeline" aspect of this since we now understand from the finale that the "sideways" flashes in season 6 weren't a parallel universe, but an afterlife? 2604:3D08:5581:9100:D023:B501:6712:2C25 (talk) 18:54, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Henry Ian Cusick from guest stars

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He was billed as a regular, as was he for What Kate Did (which he didn't appear in). --76.208.71.124 (talk) 17:48, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title

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Is it possible that LA X (Lost) would fit WP:CRITERIA better? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:32, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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