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Wallace's "Indian Paths of Pennsylvania"

A look at the index for "Great Island" in Wallace, Paul A.W. (1987). Indian Paths of Pennsylvania (Fourth Printing ed.). Harrisburg, Pennsylvania: Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission. ISBN 0-89271-090-X. (Note: ISBN refers to 1998 impression) finds five paths that came to / led from the Great Island:

• Bald Eagle Creek Path, from Frankstown on the Frankstown Branch of the Juniata River via Milesburg, Pennsylvania (Bald Eagle's Nest) to the Great Island, used by the Iroquois on war raids to Virginia and the Carolinas (pp 22-23) sometimes known as part of the Warrior's Path
• The Great Island Path - see article
• The Great Shamokin Path - see article
• Logan's Path south from the Great Island along Bald Eagle Creek to Fishing Creek, then south to Kishacoquillas (Lewistown, Pennsylvania) on the Juniata, pp 91- 92
• Sinnemahoning Path from the Great Island west along the West Branch Susquehanna then to Sinnemahoning Creek and on up to Port Allegany, Pennsylvania on the Allegheny River, pp 155-156

Ask if you want more detail on any of these. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Woohoo! Glad to hear it is OK. If you want me to make start class articles on the red links (or expand Sinnemahoning, which I've meant to do), please say the word. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
  • I switched File:Pine Creek Log Raft.jpg over to Fair Use and added a rationale for Lock Haven - feel free to tweak it (and the other two) if you see the need. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch for doing this. The licenses look good. I fixed a typo and made a couple of other truly tiny changes to the wording of the Lock Haven version. Also, I added an Indian path sentence to the article, as you've probably seen, and I've been replacing dot-com sources with parallel ones mainly from The Express and tweaking the prose as I go. If you have the time and inclination to do start-class articles for the two red-linked paths, that would be swell. The other path articles are most interesting. Finetooth (talk) 20:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I missed your comment on the paths on my talk page initially, then was busy, but have replied at the peer review. Will still do my best to make the red links go away before FAC. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Both red links are gone. Still need to do a lot of work on Logan's Path. Might also work on the Sinnemahoning Path article too. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:20, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Upper Pine Bottom State Park

	<font=3> Thanks again for your helpful comments, edits, and support - Upper Pine Bottom State Park made featured article today! Dincher (talk) and Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words, don't know if we'll ever get all 120 Pennsylvania State Parks done, but we can try ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Upper and Lower Table Rock

Pretty much echoing Ruhrfisch above, thanks for your suggestions, work, and support for Upper and Lower Table Rock... it was promoted today! LittleMountain5 02:36, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

2007 Pan American Games medal table

		The Reviewers Award
		In gratitude for your review in the list 2007 Pan American Games medal table, wich is now a Featured List Candidate. Thank you. Felipe Menegaz 15:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is a current candidate. ;D Thank you! Felipe Menegaz 15:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Air Mail

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PR

Can you reviw the peer review of Family Guy.--Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 00:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Waterfalls, waterfalls, waterfalls!

Feeling wikistress? Wish you could have a vacation someplace with two dozen waterfalls? Well the next best thing is here!

If you want to, please come look at pictures of waterfalls and pick which ones you like best. You'll be helping make a better article too.

Thanks, Dincher (talk) and Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:46, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

P.S. That wikilink again: User talk:Ruhrfisch/Waterfalls

Thanks for voting - I have been pleasantly surprised by the participation and appreciate your votes and comments, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - we are nearly ready to send it to PR. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The Air Mail

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Materialscientist (talk) 13:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 22:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Skunk Anansie discography

Hi, as you peer reviewed the article for me a while ago, would it be okay if you could pass or oppose the FL nomination? :). Cheers! Marcus Bowen (talk) 15:40, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Lock Haven photos

Thanks for the heads up and your kind words. I was looking for photos of the Lock Haven Lumber Boom as I thought they might be a better match for the article (even if also fair use). I did find this on flood control in Lock Haven here. Very dull, but might be a useful ref (US Gov't so reliable). No luck yet on a photo of the LH boom. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

PS In the postcard already in the article, would it make sense to identify Bald Eagle Creek (foreground) and the West Branch Susquehanna River (background)? Or I am just letting my creek-geekiness show? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I looked on eBay but couldn't find the same postcard currently listed. I also looked at the postcard history book for Clinton County on Amazon, but did not see a boom photo or this view there. I did find a free photo of a canal lock near Lock Haven here and the excavation of one ion Lock Haven here at the Library of Congress HAER files. I would not remove the image unless a reviewer said to. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I deleted the duplicate postcard image file here and will do my best to make start articles for the red link paths. Will also rereead the article and weigh in at the PR, though this will take a few days. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Amador Valley High School

Hi Finetooth - thank you for helping out the Amador Valley High School article in the past. Over the past few months - I've addressed your comments as well as the comments of quite a few other editors on the article. The article is now going through Featured Article review and I was wondering if you would be interested in leaving your comments. Thank you - Deltawk (talk) 06:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Recents changes to PA Capitol

Thanks for finding those links. I usually find newspaper articles the old fashinioned way and, consequently, no link available.

By the way, I'm currently trying to get the {{Infobox U.S. County}} to automatically center the bottom caption, but it taking awhile due to its full protection. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 01:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes, if I'm bored, I'll search Flickr for county courthouse photos to add to their respective counties. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 03:40, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the peer review...

...of Accurate News and Information Act. Sterling work, as always. Steve Smith (talk) 00:20, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

It's sunny out, quick take a picture!

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DYK for Water Street District

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DYK for Pioneer, Nevada

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⇌ Jake Wartenberg 01:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

• Congrats on both DYKs! I will review Lock Haven - not sure if you want to ask anyone else to look at it? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

A Rugrats Chanukah

I took care of your PR suggestions for the article and expanded Pitch (filmmaking) like you asked, if you have any more suggestions/input please do so. The Flash ^{talk} 23:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:Lock Haven again

Lock Haven is on my watchlist (along with half of Pennsylvania it seems) so I have noticed your steady work there. I had also seen the Bare Mountain panorama and like it very much. Also like the Rhyolite panorama. The problem with the waterfalls list is that reliable sources disagree - the park map lists 22 falls and their heights, GNIS lists 23 falls and gives elevations, some which are impossible (either a falls upstream of another is lower than it, or more subtly, there is not enough difference in elevation between two falls to accomodate the published height of one or both). I thought this would be a lot of work to get the pictures, then an easy list... It is fun. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I am fine with you just adding my name as a co-nom, whenver. I would prefer to have the nom start next week, but am OK with starting after Christmas if that is better for you. The Logan's Path article is a stub right now. More soon hoepfully, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:59, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I think the best reference for the paths would be to the two-page map in the front of the book (as it shows all the paths). The other possibility would be all the page numbers, but that would be five sets of page numbers. Which do you prefer? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

The map is on the two pages before roman numeral i in Wallace's book. Would you call that the frontispiece? Would the ref be Wallace, frontispiece (map)? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

OK, sometimes I surprise myself ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:30, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I added myself as co-nom and am watching the FAC. I also asked Penubag to see if the Piper Museum photo could be cleaned up a bit - there has been a big discussion on requiring better images at FAC on the FAC talk page lately. Thanks for giving me an excuse to write about the Bald Eagle Creek Path and get a DYK. Logan's Path is next on my list. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

St. Paul, Oregon

Thanks for fixing this. I had used the "squint at the USGS map" method of research. :) Does this mean that there are new Oregon creek articles on the horizon? Katr67 (talk) 20:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving! I am thankful for you and your contributions here! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:44, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I saw Brian had given a detailed PR on Lock Haven, so I was waiting until you had addressed his points before doing my own review. Not sure if you've seen it or not, but the PR Dispatch we have been working on is now the subject of discussion here. I had oatmeal for breakfast (not even oatmeal cookies). Sigh, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 22:44, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Collaboration question? (PA municipalities)

Hey there. Considering your great work on Lock Haven, I have the challenge of a lifetime for you, and I am putting in collaboration form. Would you like to expand SNPJ, Pennsylvania (population of 14) or Centralia, Pennsylvania (the infamous dying city of 9) to FA. These two are the lowest in population and I wanna get both to FA (or in SNPJ's case, maybe GA at most).Mitch32^{(A fortune in fabulous articles can be yours!)} 15:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Memorial Park Site

I reviewed Memorial Park Site at DYK, and it may have been my limited efforts, but I couldn't find the fact of the hook in the source. Could you have a look? Thanks, Ucucha 21:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Thinking of Pennsylvania NRHP listings...as you may have seen, the ARCH system will be taken down in a couple of weeks, and the CRGIS system that's replacing it is missing forms for many sites that ARCH has. I've downloaded several dozen forms — many of them for archaeological sites like Memorial Park — so if you want a form and can't get it from CRGIS, ask me. Nyttend (talk) 23:04, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see; sorry for the confusion. About Wyoming, you could talk with Acroterion, who has done plenty of work on the NRHP in Wyoming, even though he lives in the East. Nyttend (talk) 15:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

re: Favor (belated reply)

Hey, Finetooth, so sorry for not replying to you sooner; mad time of year, unfortunately. I'll try to comment at Lock Haven's PR within the week, although I admit that since I've not spent more than a few hours in Pennsylvania since I was a kid, an outsider's view will be exactly what you get from me! I vividly remember Hershey, PA, and all the free chocolate, but that's about it. :) María (habla conmigo) 19:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Memorial Park Site

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Ucucha 18:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Congrtulations! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! Dincher (talk) 21:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

PayLess at Sprouse-Reitz for your G.I. Joe's, brought to you by Troutman's Emporium and Frederick & Nelson

Hello WikiProject Oregon member, and seasons greetings. Here at Collaboration Of The Week we thank you for your efforts making Oregon better, at least on Wikipedia, and hope you are doing better than Joe's. Or, in the eloquent words of some marketing manager for another now defunct Oregon chain, Merry Christmas from PayLess... Merry Chriiiistmaaaasssss!!!

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Thank you

Your comments were helpful :) Serendi^podous 19:30, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Pennsylvania State Capitol TFA

Thanks, I was a little surpised that it was so soon and considering I didn't put in a request or anything. I think Raul654 might have had something to with it. Ironically, for much of the time its on the Main Page, I will on the train and unable to see it (or partake in the fun of reverting constant vandalism). ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 04:13, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for getting that bit of advertising the other day. Hopefully, the Lock Haven FAC is going smoothly. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 02:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Your advice was extremely useful! Mo-Al (talk) 03:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

How about…

Whatcha think about a navbox for this list? -Pete (talk) 06:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a really strong opinion one way or the other, but it does seem like useful information to link together somehow. I think we're agreed that a navbox is better than a list of "see also"s. Maybe the navbox could be titled in a way that makes it clear what should/should not get included? E.d. "Watersheds managed by the City of Portland"? -Pete (talk) 06:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

The navbox looks great to me! It suggests another possibility, the featured topic…if we could get Willamette, Bull Run, and the PWB to GA, I think we'd have ourselves a FT! :) -Pete (talk) 18:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Remaining Lock Haven issues

I have had a busy day in real life - not much time online and missed your message for much of the day - sorry. I like the note as written. I do not have a copy of Pennsylvania: a History of the Commonwealth, but can look at one tomorrow. My recollection is that while it is really quite good about the Native Americans in the first chapter, it does a less good job of covering them in later chapters (I know that the index does not contain either Treaty of Fort Stanwix, for example). Paul A. W. Wallace also wrote a book on Indians in Pennsylvania which is pretty good, and which was revised and updated in 2005. Better yet, the PHMC has made it all available free online via Google Books here. It discusses the first nations, the Susquehannocks being wiped out and the Iroquois inviting other tribes into the Sudquehanna valley, and even the eventual westward migration of almost all the native tribes, starting with Pontiac's War. More in a bit, I need to look at the note system in Dick Turpin. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:22, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I made two replies on the FAC page. There are other ways of adding notes - see Forksville Covered Bridge, for example. I think the Lock Haven article is fine the way it is now, but if note(s) have to be added, I would prefer the method I used in the bridge article. I guess my preference is to wait and see what Parrot of Doom says, then add more notes if needed. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:02, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and good night. I think I would just add some sort of "For more information see Paul A. W. Wallace, Indians in Pennsylvania ..." at the end of note 8. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:22, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I changed the ref in note 8 to Indians in Pennsylvania from Indian Paths in Pennsylvania - I could not find an OCLC or ISBN for the 2nd reised edition. Can you check and make sure my addition is OK style-wise? Thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:33, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - I forgot the accessdate completely. I was not sure about the revised by part. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Cookies

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, enjoy the cookies, I made them myself

Dincher (talk) 20:27, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

PGE report

Yikes!! Good find. Might be worth some investigation into that report's copyright status -- if eligible, we could upload it to Wikisource… -Pete (talk) 01:04, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Hrm, well maybe WikiSource isn't a good option for that document then. But yes, it's a cool site. Several of us have worked on wiki formatting the Oregon Constitution over there, but some more work is needed on that. If you ever run across any public domain or freely-licensed documents that seem especially valuable, that's a fantastic place to park them, format them, and ease one's mind about link-rot!

Also, thanks for the holiday greetings…hope yours have been full of joy, as well as DYKs! -Pete (talk) 20:07, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Little Sandy River (Oregon)

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Cirt (talk) 03:42, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for PR (T E o Minn)

Thanks for all the feedback on Territorial era of Minnesota. I'll see what I can do about helping out with a peer review.

--Mcorazao (talk) 04:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Alsea, Oregon

Thanks for adding the archive link to that deadlink. I love your pic. It has everything that makes small Oregon towns great--fish-shaped signs that say "Yes," "Beer", "Ice", and "Clean Restroom", a mural, a clearcut, a driftwood sea monster, deer horns, a colorful local, is that a Marine Corps flag on the flagpole?, and they sell goat cheese! Did you see in the historic pics there was a previous mercantile? Katr67 (talk) 19:36, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

	<font=3> Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and all the best in 2010! Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from Erie, PA! ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 04:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Little Zigzag River

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Lock Haven FAC

I was wondering if it would make sense to ask Parrot of Doom to take another look at the FAC, especially since we seem to have addressed all of his or her comments. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:32, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

It seems to be an unwritten rule at FAC that an article needs at least three supports and no substantive opposes to pass. Checking the FAC it has two supports, two technical checks (which it passes, but which do not seem to count as full suppports), and Parrot of Doom's comments. If there were a third support (or more) I think Parrot of Doom's comments would not prevent promotion (as they are not an oppose and have been addressed in some detail). So Parrot of Doom seems the current likliest candidate to support, but hopefully there could be another / others. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:09, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan - I would ask everyone who peer reviewed it (and who has not weighed in yet) in the same neutral way. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:47, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the note to Lock Haven, I was away from my computer most of the day until now. Looking good! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

TRAJQ

I haven't had time to preemptively edit another person's article and risk not getting reciprocation in the peer review process, so I'm very thankful for your help on The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest. Let me know if you ever want me to look at an article; I'll go all "constructive powerhouse" and make time to help. ZeaLitY [ DREAM - REFLECT ] 06:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Belated thanks

Not sure how I missed your PR for Theoren Fleury when you did it, but just wanted to pass along my appreciation for your review. Cheers, Resolute 14:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Peer review on UNC Coaches

Thanks again for your peer review on the list of UNC head coaches. I have made a bunch of revisions to the article and wanted to know if you thought they were acceptable or had any other suggestions. I am still working through all of them, but any additional advice would be great. Remember (talk) 14:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I have revised the key on the List of North Carolina Tar Heels men's head basketball coaches. Let me know if you think this is an improvement. Remember (talk) 21:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

One last time for 2009

Happy New Year to you, you WikiProject Oregon member! Tis the season for one last Collaboration Of The Week to get started this year. Thank you to those who worked on Gambling in Oregon and NRHP in Washington County the last few weeks. For the final COTW of 2009, we have Archiving Article Talk Pages and Mr. Standard TV & Appliance, Bill Schonely. For the archiving, we have a lot of old, stale comments on article talk pages from before 2009 that should be archived away, so that new comments are not added to things that either were addressed or not worth addressing. Personally, I archive anything older than a year. Anyway, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Adios. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

2010 Greetings

HAPPY NEW YEAR This is Carcassonne in southern France where I spent Christmas, safely away from Wiki temptations. Back to work now. I hope you have a great year in 2010 for writing, reviewing, adminning, or whatever takes your fancy (e.g. map-making?). Always willing to help when I can. Brianboulton (talk) 23:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Balch Creek/Archive 1

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Re: Speedy deletion of Balch Creek/Archive 1

My apologies for tagging the article as vandalism. I am not an administrator either, however I will make sure that one deletes the page. Thank you,  IShadowed  ✰  07:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Lock Haven images

Hi Finetooth, since both Juliancolton and Jappalang think the raft image is not justified as fair use in the article, I was looking for some replacements. I think fair use image would be OK, so looked for Lock Haven ones. Here is one of the 1936 flood in the downtown. If you would prefer something more related to the lumber era, there is the photo on the city's official history page which is of a group of people on a raft under the old bridge. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I was BOLD and added the log raft image from the official LH history page to the article as File:Lock Haven log raft.jpg. It seemed a better fit in the article than the flood picture the more I thought about it, but if you want something else, please go ahead and remove it from the article. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - I assume you might know the name of the bridge and even have some idea of the dates of its existence (which could help date the image). Also please feel free to edit my caption / fair userationale / alt text. Do you want to ask Julian to look again? His RfB just closed and the 'crats are debating what to do, so not sure if he'll be busy or not. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, I wonder if it was the fabled "Last Raft" from 1938 - see here. There is even a picture of that raft going over the Lock Haven dam on page 467 (3rd of 33) in this book. The number of people on the raft and the onlookers also suggest it was the Last Raft. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:51, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

If you look closely at the image, I think that there is a cabin with two people standing on top of it in front of the Jay St. Bridge pier. The book and/or web page on the last raft say the previous last raft was on the West Branch was around 1912, so this would have been the first such raft since the bridge was built after 1919. Calling it a nigt, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 06:06, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

PS Congrats on the DYK too! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 06:06, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Julian struck all his image concerns. Fingers crossed. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Woo hoo! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your work on the article - it is a great model article for all the smaller US cities. Thanks too for your kind words and for including me as a co-nom on the FAC. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking - I am fine with being on the thanks (and thanks for asking). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:09, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey! Congrats on Lock Haven being promoted! ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 05:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - I generally also thank everyone who contributed to the FAC (image and source and technical reviewers too). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I have sent a few to Sandy, but it was always in a case where she went beyond a minor edit or two before promoting the FAC (and then I said something like "Thanks for X. As you already know, Y was featured today"). I forgot Ealdgyth's advice on sources - thanks for remembering her and for sending those, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 12:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Little Zigzag River

On January 2, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Little Zigzag River, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year !

Thank you so much for the Christmas greetings; I was traveling, so am just now returning my wishes for a most Happy New Year ! (And thank you for making my job at FAC easier; without you and the Fisch, it would be rougher!) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:51, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Lock Haven

I'm glad (but not surprised) that Lock Haven made it to FA; I always look forward to those articles, congratulations to you both. Brianboulton (talk) 10:40, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Same here from me. This FAC took some time, but it finally made it through! Dincher (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

McDonald's Cycle Center FA

This user helped promote McDonald's Cycle Center to featured article status.

Thanks for your involvement in the development of McDonald's Cycle Center, which has become an WP:FA in recent months.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Review request

First off, I'd like to thank you for your review of Union College. The main editor there is a novice to Wikipedia, but being the college's librarian, he is a boon to the editorial ranks on this project. Second, I just finished discussing an article with User:Doncram that I have gotten to GA: Oakwood Cemetery (Troy, New York). I'd like to bring this to FAC sometime soon and Doncram's suggestion was to ask you (the aptly named) for a final review prior to bringing it to FAC (where you'll probably review it anyway). So I'm wondering if you'd be interested. Any help would be greatly appreciated! upstateNYer 20:50, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Cross Country Champs

Hi Finetooth. Thanks for the peer review, I've read it through but I'm still in the middle of implementing changes offline. I've been quite busy of late, but rest assured your time has not been misspent! I'll get back to you soon. Cheers, Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Join WikiProject Athletics!} 22:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if this is completely out of your mind now! But - over a month later and I finally carried out your recommendations for the article. Some stuff, like the "Championships vs. championships" and converting km lengths to miles, has given me something to add to my future editing.

One of your points mentioned clarifying what exactly athletics meant ("the first time that a major European athletics championships took place in Ireland"). There isn't much that can be done here to be honest. Semantically, US English seems to be lacking for a word that equates to what "athletics" can mean in British and Australian English (or dozens of other European languages for that matter) – that is, a sport which encompasses track and field events, road running, racewalking, marathoning, cross country running, mountain running, and some more esoteric running/throwing competitions.

This has caused problems for the main article at athletics (track and field) because the naming is as counter-intuitive as, say, Big cats (tigers) i.e. the latter phrase is merely one of the topics included in the meaning of the former. I'm making steps to resolve this with a draft in my Userspace. However, the fact that "athletics" in US terms should be a simple redirect to sports and that the European meaning of "athletics" has no US equivalent will cause headaches for years to come! In either event, it confuses me that Americans don't seem to notice that it is "Athletics at the Summer Olympics", and not "track and field plus a bunch of other stuff on neither a track nor field at the Olympics". Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Join WikiProject Athletics!} 17:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Lord of the Rings Peer Review

Thank you for the comments at the LoTR Peer Review. There are some good points to work on, which will really help build a to-do list for the article.--Davémon (talk) 19:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion would be appreciated

Noting that you did the most recent PR, I was hoping you would comment on the issue being rased about the phrase "cliff notes" here. Your opinion is respected either way; I just want to see if this review is an anomaly (which I think it is). If you share the reviewer's sentiments, then changes can be made. Thanks! upstateNYer 23:33, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Twin Spica peer review

Thanks for your comments and help in improving the article. I have made some comments in response in case you are no longer watching the review page. Please do not hesitate to let me know if there are any further questions. Arsonal (talk) 16:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

List of Governors of New Jersey peer review

Thanks for your truly helpful comments at the aforementioned peer review. I've implemented your recommended changes, and I plan on moving the discussion from PR to WP:FLC. The PR is due to be closed in a few days, but I'd appreciate it if you'd (a) see if there are any more changes you'd recommend before going to FLC, and mention them at the PR if there are, and (b) close the PR if there aren't. Thank you again! A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 03:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello again. Well, the peer review closed right on time, and after a lot of hard work (particularly on Golbez's part) I've taken the list to FLC. So per your request at the talk page, this is due notice that your comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Governors of New Jersey/archive1 are welcome. Thanks, A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 19:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

List of tallest residential buildings in the world.

I have nominated this article for peer review again, i have made changes according to your suggestions, which you have given me previously.your valuable suggestions are welcomed once again, so that i will make this article eligible for the featured list.

See [1]

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Have a look at the Citations which i am using,citations with Publishers,title and url, tell me if i am doing it in the right way or not, then i will procede and try my best to apply this to all the uncited references.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the correction. My mistake, I looked at it three times and it was a combination of preconception and optical illusion. I'll look more closely next time. I didn't realize that the southern Alberta BC boarder was the continental divide.--OMCV (talk) 04:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

for your review. Are you at all interested in entering a dialogue about some of your concerns? Great catch regarding the publishers of various sources; I'm not sure how I never noticed that before. And sorry I haven't been by to thank you before, I had kind of forgotten about the PR after it got no attention for so long. Nosleep (Talk · Contribs) 01:33, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Oregon COTW v 3.0.2010ish

Greetings WikiProject Oregon team member. Time for the first new Collaboration Of The Week in 2010. Thank you to those who worked on Bill Schonely and archiving talk pages. For this week, we have Concordia University and the Berry Botanic Garden. Hopefully we can mine the garden’s website before it closes down. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Cheers and stuff. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:49, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

		The COTW award from WPOR.
		Thanks for leading the way in last week's Collaboration of the Week! Thanks for the archiving work. Aboutmovies (talk) 10:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

New pix

Glad you like them, there are two more pictures of the house from further away (wish I had not cut the top of the one chimney off in the shot I used), and several more shots of the park. If you want, I can upload them. I did upload File:Bald Eagle Crosscut Canal 1.jpg, File:Bald Eagle Crosscut Canal 2.jpg, and File:Bald Eagle Crosscut Canal 3.jpg on Commons too - the last shows the lock I think (the water seemed to drop off an edge). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:00, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, glad you like them. I also got a picture of the river and Great Island from the park (not uploaded), and several new shots of the Piper Aviation Museum, one of which I added to the Lock Haven article. Is it OK? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:27, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the update on the pictures. Glad you like them - Iagree there are many ways the Piper Museum building could be improved. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Voyage of the Karluk

I am working on this account of a Canadian Arctic expedition that went tragically wrong almost a century ago. I wonder if you feel able to help with the production of a better map? Basically I need a clearer version of the scarcely legible map I have placed in the "Drifting west" section. A large map of the same kind is found here, while a clearer version, but copyrighted, is found here. From this information is it possible to produce our own map identifying: (1) Karluk's journey to the point at which it got stuck in the ice and started drifting; (2) Karluk's drift to its sinking position; (3) the crew's march from the sinking position to Wrangel Island and (4) Bartlett's journey to Alaska for help? If you don't have time, that's fine of course, but I thought that in view of the Canada connection you could be interested. I will probably send the article for peer review in a few days, with a view to a possible FAC in mid-February. Brianboulton (talk) 17:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Yet another waterfalls question

Hi Finetooth, since you weighed in on the peer review, I was wondering if you would mind looking at Talk:Waterfalls in Ricketts Glen State Park, where there has been discussion on the tables in the articles and a new layout has been tried. Thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Karluk map

This is to thank you for your magnificent effort with the Karluk map. I'm sure you'll agree that the map enhances the article considerably. When (or if) you have time, I would welcome any comments on the prose or other aspects of article that you are able to give. And please let me know when I can do some thing in return. Brianboulton (talk) 11:40, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, By the way, Ruhrfisch has suggested a slight tweak on the map in his PR comments - is this possible? Brianboulton (talk) 11:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Lad, A Dog

Hi. I finally finished going through and giving it a thorough editing and polishing, hopefully improving it. If you'd have time, I'd appreciate it if you could give another going over for the peer review. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Just Out, COTW does well in new decade

Howdy WikiProject Oregon folks, time again for the latest installment of As the Collaboration Of The Week Turns. Last week was one of the more successful COTWs in recent memory as we really worked hard as a community to improve Concordia University and Berry Botanic Garden. Both are now at least C class articles and nicely illustrated (thanks to Tedder, Finetooth, and Ipoellet). Plus it really was a group effort as we had five different WPORE editors work on the garden and ditto with the school, with some overlap between the two.

Anyway, this week, we have by request the completely unrelated Just Out and Terrell Brandon. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. This message paid for by Fooians against COTW killing taxes. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

For both articles

		The COTW award from WPOR.
		Thanks for leading the way in last week's Collaboration of the Week! Aboutmovies (talk) 09:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Second opinion needed

If possible could you give a more experience opinion on this peer review, specifically the discussion about citations in the lead.

Thanks in advance. CrimsonFox ^talk 23:59, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

PEER REVIEW, of List of tallest residential buildings in the world.

I have applied all your suggestions, and the correction of mistakes which you mentioned to this article , and now i think that the peer review has been completed, or something remaining ??

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Donald Macleay

Woot! I don't have time to read it right now, but thanks for creating it! Katr67 (talk) 21:19, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I've left a question for you at T:TDYK. Nyttend (talk) 01:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Good suggestion. Thanks. I've added a link to Macleay, Oregon. Finetooth (talk) 02:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mono-Inyo Craters/archive1

As somebody who has edited Mono-Inyo Craters several times in the past, you may be interested to know that it is a current FAC. --mav (Urgent FACs/FARs) 02:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Chemung Canal Extension, NY/PA border.

Hello Finetooth, I know im doing this wrong! ;) sorry..I tried reading wikipedia pages about using a talk page.. it doesnt make much sense to me.. so feel free to edit or delete this note! ;)

Just wanted to let you know about your "Chemung Canal Extension" on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pennsylvania_canals.png

on your map, you show the North Branch canal heading up toward the PA/NY border, through Towanda, PA. then you have the Junction Canal heading off toward the west. (this is correct) you also show a "Chemung Canal Extension" heading off toward the North-East into NY state..this is incorrect. there never was any such canal there. The North Branch canal went up to Athens, PA. The Chumung Canal terminated in Elmira. then the Junction Canal was built to combine the two. there was never any "Chemung Canal Extension" in the Waverly, NY area. that little extension on your map is simply wrong..

I know all this because im a native of Waverly, NY, and I have done extensive research on local history: http://www.frontiernet.net/~scottychaos/Lawrence_alltours.html

Perhaps "Chemung Canal Extension" refers to the extension of the Chemung Canal from Elmira toward Athens, PA? in which case "Chemung Canal Extension" and "Junction Canal" would be one and the same.

thanks, Scot..lets see if I can do a proper signature: Scottychaos (talk) 16:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Finetooth, I got your note about the canal between Athens and Binghamton on the Susquehanna river. I didnt originally think the map was referring to the Susquehanna, it looked like it was further north in Waverly, but now it makes sense! IMO, I dont think it should even be labeled as part of the canal system at all..since it was just "the river" and never an actual developed canal..but on the other hand, I suppose many canals did use rivers, and "undeveloped sections of river" are considered a part of the overall canal system..so its a grey area! the question is..was that stretch of Susquehanna river north-east out of Athens ever actually used to haul canal freight? I dont believe it was..but im not 100% sure.. there are a lot of shallow rapids there, im not sure it would be navigable without some major dredging. im pretty sure that extension was just "proposed" and never actually used.. how about labeling it: Chenango Extension (proposed) that would be the most accurate way to label it.. personally, if it was my map, I would just leave it off completely, since it was never a functioning part of a real canal system, but I dont know if you are labeling proposed canals or not.. thanks, Scot Scottychaos (talk) 14:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Another reviewer.........

Tell me the procedure , for an another reviewer, at WP:PRV.How can i ask there for reviewing this article  ??

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 20:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the congratulations, Finetooth! I'd like to thank you, in turn, for your helpful comments on the talk page, peer review, and FLC. I cannot tell you much I appreciate them. Here's a little something in return:

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For tirelessly helping other editors with improving their articles through comments and advice at Peer Review, and particularly for comments on and advice for improving List of Governors of New Jersey. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 00:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Peer Review of List of Iowa state highways

Thanks for the review. The changes you recommended really helped improve the article. --Fredddie™ 21:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Long time no see

This editor is a
Veteran Editor III
and is entitled to display this
Silver Editor Star.

.....thanks for all you have done for Wikipedia!!... Buzzzsherman (talk) 06:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Voyage of the Karluk

Per your request, this is to let you know that I have now nominated the good ship (?) Karluk at FAC. Thanks for your help in getting it there, especially for the splendid map. Brianboulton (talk) 16:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up

Wow, that was a fast and painless FAC - thanks for letting me know. I saw Karancs made a minor edit earlier today, but assumed it needed an image review before promotion. Formal (and pretty cool) thank spam to follow soon. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

24 Waterfall salute!

Thanks for all your help with picking images and peer review, and for your kind words and support. Waterfalls in Ricketts Glen State Park made Featured Article today! Dincher (talk) and Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:13, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the, er, um, thanks... seriously. I had the idea as a way of showing all the falls in the main park article, then thought I could use it as a thank you for everyone who helped pick images, then thought why not use it for the FLC FAC thank yous. I have put it in the Ricketts Glen article too, but I like looking at it. I made it last night (part of why I had no edits later yesterday) and just kept looking at it today. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Alttext

Can you add "alttext", to the newly added images in List of tallest residential buildings in the world, i will be really thankful to you for this purpose.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 10:23, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok i am adding alttext to the images,

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 16:09, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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