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he wasn't on Lil Wayne's last 2 albums. He was on C2 & C3 but NOT on Rebirth. Also, Wayne wasn't on Sex Therapy (not even on The Experience). Wayne was on The Evolution & Something Else. Please correct dis |
he wasn't on Lil Wayne's last 2 albums. He was on C2 & C3 but NOT on Rebirth. Also, Wayne wasn't on Sex Therapy (not even on The Experience). Wayne was on The Evolution & Something Else. Please correct dis <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/59.177.69.137|59.177.69.137]] ([[User talk:59.177.69.137|talk]]) 17:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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^Learn how to talk. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.101.39.191|24.101.39.191]] ([[User talk:24.101.39.191|talk]]) 10:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Stress indicator needed? == |
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Why is there a stress indicator in the IPA for '''Thicke'''? Since the word is only one syllable, it is superfluous and incorrect to use stress indicator. Another user, Kwamikagami, keeps adding the stress indicator when I remove it. Can I please get opinions from other editors of this page - what do you guys think? [[User:Aikclaes|Aikclaes]] ([[User talk:Aikclaes|talk]]) 06:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:It is, of course, correct to use it, just as it's correct to use spell out his first name rather than calling him "R". You keep saying it's incorrect, but apparently have no evidence for that opinion. It may not be necessary for most English speakers, but it would be relevant if anyone ever added IPA for the first name. Anyway, this is part of a general convention of marking stressed syllables for stress; if you think it should change, you should bring it up at [[WP:IPA for English]], as a change would affect hundreds of articles. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 08:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC) |
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::My evidence is all the IPA transcriptions with only on syllable - they have no stress mark. Could you please supply a source for your usage? I have never seen it anywhere else. [[User:Aikclaes|Aikclaes]] ([[User talk:Aikclaes|talk]]) 12:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Other than the fact that we have hundreds of such articles on WP, and other knowledgeable editors are fine with that? |
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:::Where is your evidence? You mean in dictionaries? |
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:::Ladefoged, ''A Course in Phonetics'', discusses 'strong' and 'weak' forms of some English monosyllabic words. The difference corresponds to stress. For example, the demonstrative PN ''that'' is {{IPA|/ˈðæt/}}, whereas the relative PN ''that'' varies between {{IPA|/ˈðæt/}} and {{IPA|/ðət/}}. In the section on sentence stress (p 118 in my edition), he compares disyllabic and monosyllabic words, and how their stress may be dropped in some contexts: |
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:::Also phrases like ''the 'unknown 'man'' vs. ''the 'man is un'known'', where ''man'' receives the same stress as ''unknown''. |
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:::Can't find it offhand, but if you look up stress in English compounds, you'll find examples like ''blackbird'' {{IPA|/ˈblækbɜrd/}} vs ''black bird'' {{IPA|/ˌblæk ˈbɜrd/}}. The analysis requires that monosyllables be stressed. |
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:::Again, in a string of monosyllables like ''Tom de la Rue,'' we need to show which are stressed and which aren't if we're to properly convey the pronunciation. Dict.com has it there: /ˈdɛlə ˌru, ˌdɛlə ˈru/ (which for us would be {{IPA|/ˈdɛlə ruː, ˌdɛlə ˈruː/}}: the distinction (presumably between US and UK pron) is whether or not the ''Rue'' is stressed). — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 00:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== His Wife == |
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Why won't the biographical data in the box on the right show the info about his wife. Other people biographical data boxes include the information on their spouse. I can't make it show, and I see that someone put it in there before he. Still a no show. [[User:Jeannetttt76|Jeannetttt76]]([[User talk:Jeannetttt76|talk]]) 19:25, 13 January 2011 |
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== Date of Birth == |
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Has anyone noticed that the article reports TWO different dates of birth? Different days and Years. This needs to be fixed. [[Special:Contributions/129.255.1.147|129.255.1.147]] ([[User talk:129.255.1.147|talk]]) 15:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Awards == |
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I am removing the Grammy awards section. Although the albums mentioned won Grammys, there is no evidence from the official Grammy website that Robin won anything. Being a producer or song writer for a track or two doesn't usually win you a Grammy. Only the artist and main producer. http://www.grammy.com/nominees/search?artist=%22robin+thicke%22&field_nominee_work_value=&year=All&genre=All [[User:Xffactor|Xffactor]] ([[User talk:Xffactor|talk]]) 20:40, 12 February 2013 (UTC) |
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== Historically Made the News for 2013 == |
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Twitter released a list of events that attracted the most tweets per minute (TPM) in 2013. Robin Thicke's act with Miley Cyrus at the VMAs was one of the highest volume of tweets on the 2013. |
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[[User:Billgdiaz|Billgdiaz]] ([[User talk:Billgdiaz|talk]]) 23:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Is that really him? --[[User:Matt723star|Matt723star]] ([[User talk:Matt723star|talk]]) 16:54, 19 September 2013 (UTC) |
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== "Sexist of the year" == |
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It has been reported in lots of newspapers in the UK today (Guardian, Times, etc.) that Thicke has been awarded a sexist of the year award. This is worthy of his wikipedia page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.150.246.181|78.150.246.181]] ([[User talk:78.150.246.181|talk]]) 09:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Already in the article at the bottom of [[Robin_Thicke#2013–present: Blurred Lines]]. [[User:EvergreenFir|EvergreenFir]] ([[User talk:EvergreenFir|talk]]) 02:31, 21 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Robin's Middle Name == |
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Robin's middle names is not Charles its Alan, after his father. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/198.13.157.199|198.13.157.199]] ([[User talk:198.13.157.199|talk]]) 00:52, 19 April 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Do you have a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] that can [[WP:V|verify]] this claim? [[User:EvergreenFir|EvergreenFir]] ([[User talk:EvergreenFir|talk]]) 02:22, 19 April 2014 (UTC) |
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::His dad wrote in the book, ''How Men Have Babies'', that he regretted the monogram he gave his son. He wrote that his "second son's full name is Robin Alan Thicke... RAT! Sorry, Rob." This appears on page 69. |
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::For many years, this article had Charles as the middle name, but that was false. It was added by a sockpuppeter in April 2006[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Robin_Thicke&diff=next&oldid=45962502] which is the first time it appeared anywhere. Because of [[circular reporting]], many writers accepted the middle name Charles which they got from Wikipedia. But Alan is the middle name. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 07:10, 31 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Robin Thicke's hand up girl's skirt == |
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Where's the talk about Robin Thicke's hand up girl's skirt, causing his marriage to break down, and a link to a picture of it, e.g. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/30/article-2406151-1B8876EC000005DC-607_1024x615_large.jpg ? [[Special:Contributions/182.255.99.214|182.255.99.214]] ([[User talk:182.255.99.214|talk]]) 14:43, 9 April 2016 (UTC) |
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: To point at that photo and say "yup, that's what did it" is speculation, isn't it? Who's to say when exactly the relationship started to "break down" or say that this photo was even an important factor to that end (other than Paula and Robin who've yet to make any such specific comment on it to my knowledge)? The picture exists, that's a fact, but anything else regarding its significance in the context of their marriage is a matter of inference, therefore it doesn't strike me as the sort of thing to seriously consider for inclusion in the article. [[User:Marinedoc92|Marinedoc92]] ([[User talk:Marinedoc92|talk]]) 04:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC) |
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[edit]i removed the links on the album discography.. as they have alread been linked above? but if they are meant to be there then please restore (and add for the evolution..) Bungalowbill 16:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- Why on Earth are there links within the article, to the article - I clicked When I Get You Alone and up in the same article, rather disappointing. If there is no article, there should be no link - particularly not back to the same article. Tinkstar1985 14:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
When I Get You Alone
[edit]I heard this for the first time a couple weeks ago and was impressed. However, when I researched it, I couldn't find any instances of U.S. chartings of it. Could anyone supply a source for the chart positions cited here? I'm afraid they may be incorrect. GassyGuy 13:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Personal Life
[edit]I removed the following from the Personal Life section, there were no citations nor a proper source mentioned for the alleged interview.
It is also reported that Thicke is an avid drug user. In a 2007 interview, Thicke said "When I have some downtime I normally get really high and I dance all night; I get drunk and I party until I can't party anymore and I surround myself with close friends and great food." And when asked about his 2007 birthday plans, he said ""I plan to be as close to death as possible. Whatever kind of drugs I'm offered, I'm taking it."
TJ 00:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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Grammy?
[edit]The intro says he is a Grammy winner but there is nothing about him winning a Grammy in the rest of the article. Man, if this spare can win a Grammy then anybody can! 71.164.229.88 (talk) 22:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Where did he really grow up?
[edit]"Los Angeles" works better with his image but were talking about the rich child of a celebrity here. Beverly Hills? Malibu? Where did he really grow up? I think if the facts got out this guy would lose his "cred" in about an hour. He makes Vanilla Ice look like Al Capone. What a poser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.93.84.122 (talk) 21:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Since when you R&B singers (of any color) need "cred"? Vanilla Ice is a rapper and Robin Thicke is a singer, you do understand the difference don't you? If he comes out with a gangsta rap album then we can all question his "cred," until then he is just fine. Sheesh! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.175.41.148 (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
He is a poser either way. Who cares about his cred. He has chops and the women love him, that's some cred I would like to have. I may not like the man's music, but he knows what he is doing, and it usually has long legs and a great smile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.40.216 (talk) 04:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Wayne
[edit]he wasn't on Lil Wayne's last 2 albums. He was on C2 & C3 but NOT on Rebirth. Also, Wayne wasn't on Sex Therapy (not even on The Experience). Wayne was on The Evolution & Something Else. Please correct dis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.69.137 (talk) 17:24, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
^Learn how to talk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.101.39.191 (talk) 10:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Stress indicator needed?
[edit]Why is there a stress indicator in the IPA for Thicke? Since the word is only one syllable, it is superfluous and incorrect to use stress indicator. Another user, Kwamikagami, keeps adding the stress indicator when I remove it. Can I please get opinions from other editors of this page - what do you guys think? Aikclaes (talk) 06:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- It is, of course, correct to use it, just as it's correct to use spell out his first name rather than calling him "R". You keep saying it's incorrect, but apparently have no evidence for that opinion. It may not be necessary for most English speakers, but it would be relevant if anyone ever added IPA for the first name. Anyway, this is part of a general convention of marking stressed syllables for stress; if you think it should change, you should bring it up at WP:IPA for English, as a change would affect hundreds of articles. — kwami (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- My evidence is all the IPA transcriptions with only on syllable - they have no stress mark. Could you please supply a source for your usage? I have never seen it anywhere else. Aikclaes (talk) 12:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
- Other than the fact that we have hundreds of such articles on WP, and other knowledgeable editors are fine with that?
- Where is your evidence? You mean in dictionaries?
- Ladefoged, A Course in Phonetics, discusses 'strong' and 'weak' forms of some English monosyllabic words. The difference corresponds to stress. For example, the demonstrative PN that is /ˈðæt/, whereas the relative PN that varies between /ˈðæt/ and /ðət/. In the section on sentence stress (p 118 in my edition), he compares disyllabic and monosyllabic words, and how their stress may be dropped in some contexts:
- 'Mary's younger 'brother wanted 'fifty chocolate 'peanuts.
- The 'big brown 'bear ate 'ten white 'mice.
- Also phrases like the 'unknown 'man vs. the 'man is un'known, where man receives the same stress as unknown.
- Can't find it offhand, but if you look up stress in English compounds, you'll find examples like blackbird /ˈblækbɜrd/ vs black bird /ˌblæk ˈbɜrd/. The analysis requires that monosyllables be stressed.
- Again, in a string of monosyllables like Tom de la Rue, we need to show which are stressed and which aren't if we're to properly convey the pronunciation. Dict.com has it there: /ˈdɛlə ˌru, ˌdɛlə ˈru/ (which for us would be /ˈdɛlə ruː, ˌdɛlə ˈruː/: the distinction (presumably between US and UK pron) is whether or not the Rue is stressed). — kwami (talk) 00:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
His Wife
[edit]Why won't the biographical data in the box on the right show the info about his wife. Other people biographical data boxes include the information on their spouse. I can't make it show, and I see that someone put it in there before he. Still a no show. Jeannetttt76(talk) 19:25, 13 January 2011
Date of Birth
[edit]Has anyone noticed that the article reports TWO different dates of birth? Different days and Years. This needs to be fixed. 129.255.1.147 (talk) 15:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Awards
[edit]I am removing the Grammy awards section. Although the albums mentioned won Grammys, there is no evidence from the official Grammy website that Robin won anything. Being a producer or song writer for a track or two doesn't usually win you a Grammy. Only the artist and main producer. http://www.grammy.com/nominees/search?artist=%22robin+thicke%22&field_nominee_work_value=&year=All&genre=All Xffactor (talk) 20:40, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Historically Made the News for 2013
[edit]Twitter released a list of events that attracted the most tweets per minute (TPM) in 2013. Robin Thicke's act with Miley Cyrus at the VMAs was one of the highest volume of tweets on the 2013. Billgdiaz (talk) 23:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Picture
[edit]Is that really him? --Matt723star (talk) 16:54, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
"Sexist of the year"
[edit]It has been reported in lots of newspapers in the UK today (Guardian, Times, etc.) that Thicke has been awarded a sexist of the year award. This is worthy of his wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.246.181 (talk) 09:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
- Already in the article at the bottom of Robin_Thicke#2013–present: Blurred Lines. EvergreenFir (talk) 02:31, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Robin's Middle Name
[edit]Robin's middle names is not Charles its Alan, after his father. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.13.157.199 (talk) 00:52, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source that can verify this claim? EvergreenFir (talk) 02:22, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- His dad wrote in the book, How Men Have Babies, that he regretted the monogram he gave his son. He wrote that his "second son's full name is Robin Alan Thicke... RAT! Sorry, Rob." This appears on page 69.
- For many years, this article had Charles as the middle name, but that was false. It was added by a sockpuppeter in April 2006[1] which is the first time it appeared anywhere. Because of circular reporting, many writers accepted the middle name Charles which they got from Wikipedia. But Alan is the middle name. Binksternet (talk) 07:10, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Robin Thicke's hand up girl's skirt
[edit]Where's the talk about Robin Thicke's hand up girl's skirt, causing his marriage to break down, and a link to a picture of it, e.g. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/30/article-2406151-1B8876EC000005DC-607_1024x615_large.jpg ? 182.255.99.214 (talk) 14:43, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- To point at that photo and say "yup, that's what did it" is speculation, isn't it? Who's to say when exactly the relationship started to "break down" or say that this photo was even an important factor to that end (other than Paula and Robin who've yet to make any such specific comment on it to my knowledge)? The picture exists, that's a fact, but anything else regarding its significance in the context of their marriage is a matter of inference, therefore it doesn't strike me as the sort of thing to seriously consider for inclusion in the article. Marinedoc92 (talk) 04:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
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