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== Emphasizing that she had never argued a case before a court == |
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The addition of the bolded text to the lead, "In 2009, Kagan became the first female [[Solicitor General of the United States|solicitor general of the United States]], '''despite the fact that she had never previous argued a case before any court'''." appears to put undue emphasis on this aspect and suggest she was unqualified (when her qualifications at the time was being a Harvard Law School professor). If this is to be included in the lead, it should at the very least drop the argumentative "despite the fact" and change it to "At the time", but I still think this is undue for the lead and misleadingly suggests incompetence to the readers. [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 02:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC) |
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:God forbid anyone suggest incompetence regarding a liberal figure. Wikipedia at it again. [[Special:Contributions/166.181.86.9|166.181.86.9]] ([[User talk:166.181.86.9|talk]]) 08:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC) |
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==Adding Category Abortion== |
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given the current state of the Supreme Court (July 2022) and the recent rulings affecting [[:Category:Abortion|abortion]] I am adding [[:Category:Abortion]]. I believe adding this category will be uncontroversial. |
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-- [[User:Charlesreid1|Charlesreid1]] ([[User talk:Charlesreid1|talk]]) 08:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Undone. Please see [[Talk:Ketanji_Brown_Jackson#Adding_Category_Abortion]] for centralized discussion. – [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 17:45, 3 July 2022 (UTC) |
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges#RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges § RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges]]== |
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[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges#RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges § RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges]]. [[User:Endwise|Endwise]] ([[User talk:Endwise|talk]]) 16:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)<!-- [[Template:Please see]] --> |
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The opening sentence in Kagan's article should reflect her status as a jurist and legal scholar. At present, it only mentions that she's a lawyer. While not inaccurate, making an amendment to reflect the aforementioned would bring this article in line with those of other Supreme Court justices and jurists on lower courts. [[User:Pchristiandobson|Pchristiandobson]] ([[User talk:Pchristiandobson|talk]]) 20:08, 31 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 20:09, 31 December 2022 (UTC) |
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==Polarizes America?== |
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I think it's interesting to note that 26 states provided two senators who approved Kagan's nomination, while 13 states provided no senators. Are the Supreme Court nominations usually this polarized? [[Special:Contributions/73.55.138.35|73.55.138.35]] ([[User talk:73.55.138.35|talk]]) 08:26, 26 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:I think it's a more general polarization, in that fewer states elect two Senators of different parties, a phenomenon that used to be more prevalent in the Solid South. For example, Susan Collins of Maine is the only currently-serving Republican Senator from the six New England states (who also send two Independents who caucus with the Democrats). On the other hand, there are no Democratic Senators from the formerly Solid Democratic Deep South. [[User:Shakescene|—— Shakescene]] ([[User talk:Shakescene|talk]]) 09:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC) |
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==Sources== |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2024 == |
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If you want to add material about the student experience at Harvard, please provide sources (eg school newspaper articles, etc). Otherwise we have to remove it. Thanks. [[User:The Land|The Land]] 15:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC) |
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Also, in the paragraph |
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Please remove this phrase: |
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She also kicked off a $400 million capital campaign in 2003; it is scheduled to end in 2008. Reports are that the Law School has raised about $260 million to date, putting it slightly ahead of schedule. |
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"to date" is vague, given that this is an encylopedia and not a newspaper! If anyone has more precise details, please correct. |
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[[User:Traumerei|Traumerei]] 20:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Her friend Jeffrey Toobin recalls that Kagan |
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TO whomever keeps adding the line about her becoming president of Harvard - STOP. While we all wish it to be true, this has not been announced yet and is not necessarily going to happen. |
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[[User:140.247.10.147|140.247.10.147]] 02:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC) |
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and replace it with this: |
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==Pronunciation== |
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I had always assumed that her last name was pronounced {{IPA-en|kəˈgɑːn|}}. However, in all the commentary over her potential as a Supreme Court nominee, I hear it pronounced {{IPA-en|ˈkeɪgən|}}. I may add this to the main page [[User:Grover cleveland|Grover cleveland]] ([[User talk:Grover cleveland|talk]]) 14:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Her friend Jeffrey Toobin recalled that Kagan |
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== Jewish == |
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The source is from 2010. He probably still recalls this, but there's no 100% guarantee that he does; however, it's certain that he recalled it in 2010. [[Special:Contributions/123.51.107.94|123.51.107.94]] ([[User talk:123.51.107.94|talk]]) 06:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Don't know about gay, but with a surname like Kagan it's pretty hard not to be Jewish. Anyway, we have sources like <code><nowiki>{{Cite web |url=http://jta.org/news/article/2009/01/06/1002012/obama-names-jewish-woman-as-solicitor-general |title=Obama names Jewish woman as solicitor general |publisher=JTA |date=January 6, 2009}}</nowiki></code> ({{Cite web |url=http://jta.org/news/article/2009/01/06/1002012/obama-names-jewish-woman-as-solicitor-general |title=Obama names Jewish woman as solicitor general |publisher=JTA |date=January 6, 2009}}) and an interesting article <code><nowiki>{{Cite web |url=http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Kagan.html |title=Elena Kagan: Jewish Ethnic Networking Eases the Path of a Liberal/Leftist to the Supreme Court |author=Kevin MacDonald |publisher=theoccidentalobserve.net|date=May 20, 2009}}</nowiki></code> ({{Cite web |url=http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Kagan.html |title=Elena Kagan: Jewish Ethnic Networking Eases the Path of a Liberal/Leftist to the Supreme Court |author=Kevin MacDonald |publisher=theoccidentalobserve.net|date=May 20, 2009}}). Could somebody work that into the article? [[User:Debresser|Debresser]] ([[User talk:Debresser|talk]]) 00:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
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Emphasizing that she had never argued a case before a court
[edit]The addition of the bolded text to the lead, "In 2009, Kagan became the first female solicitor general of the United States, despite the fact that she had never previous argued a case before any court." appears to put undue emphasis on this aspect and suggest she was unqualified (when her qualifications at the time was being a Harvard Law School professor). If this is to be included in the lead, it should at the very least drop the argumentative "despite the fact" and change it to "At the time", but I still think this is undue for the lead and misleadingly suggests incompetence to the readers. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 02:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- God forbid anyone suggest incompetence regarding a liberal figure. Wikipedia at it again. 166.181.86.9 (talk) 08:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Adding Category Abortion
[edit]given the current state of the Supreme Court (July 2022) and the recent rulings affecting abortion I am adding Category:Abortion. I believe adding this category will be uncontroversial.
-- Charlesreid1 (talk) 08:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Undone. Please see Talk:Ketanji_Brown_Jackson#Adding_Category_Abortion for centralized discussion. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:45, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges § RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges
[edit]You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges § RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges. Endwise (talk) 16:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
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The opening sentence in Kagan's article should reflect her status as a jurist and legal scholar. At present, it only mentions that she's a lawyer. While not inaccurate, making an amendment to reflect the aforementioned would bring this article in line with those of other Supreme Court justices and jurists on lower courts. Pchristiandobson (talk) 20:08, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Polarizes America?
[edit]I think it's interesting to note that 26 states provided two senators who approved Kagan's nomination, while 13 states provided no senators. Are the Supreme Court nominations usually this polarized? 73.55.138.35 (talk) 08:26, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's a more general polarization, in that fewer states elect two Senators of different parties, a phenomenon that used to be more prevalent in the Solid South. For example, Susan Collins of Maine is the only currently-serving Republican Senator from the six New England states (who also send two Independents who caucus with the Democrats). On the other hand, there are no Democratic Senators from the formerly Solid Democratic Deep South. —— Shakescene (talk) 09:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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Her friend Jeffrey Toobin recalls that Kagan
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Her friend Jeffrey Toobin recalled that Kagan
The source is from 2010. He probably still recalls this, but there's no 100% guarantee that he does; however, it's certain that he recalled it in 2010. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 06:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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