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==Bite Force==
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The part about the 3000 psi to 5000 psi bite is blatently false. And you know why? Because bite force is not measured in PSI,
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PSI is a measure of PRESSURE. Pressure increases as an object gets smaller with the same amount of weight behind it, Pressure has to do with area thus. FORCE has nothing to do with area. That episode of Dangerous Encounters you can clearly hear Brady Barr relate the bite results in pounds of force. NOT PSI. So the 3000 psi and 5000 psi figures should be changed to 3000 lbs of force and 5000 lbs of force. Thank you. Regards. [[User:DinoJones|DinoJones]] ([[User talk:DinoJones|talk]]) 22:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
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== Etymology ==
: As I'm not familiar with the work of Brady Barr, so I can't comment on how he recorded bite forces. Needless to say that it should have been in the SI units [[newton]]s (which would have avoided this issue). User:DinoJones, can you provide a reference for the bite force information (values plus units)? Cheers [[User:Mark t young|Mark t young]] ([[User talk:Mark t young|talk]]) 23:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::Do you mean like a screen cap of the bite force values given in that particular episode of Brady Barr's show? I'll do my best if that's what you meant.[[User:DinoJones|DinoJones]] ([[User talk:DinoJones|talk]]) 06:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


I think this etymology is incorrect and should be changed. The word "crocodile" and romance language equivalents is very old and certainly predates binomial nomenclature. The most parsimonious explanation for the genus name "Crocodylus" is that it was already the Latin word for crocodile. The Online Etymology Dictionary says the word can be traced back to Greek, but origins within Greek are unknown unless you accept Herodotus as a source. [[User:Theflashisgone|Theflashisgone]] ([[User talk:Theflashisgone|talk]]) 01:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
==Range Map==
There's a nice range map over at Wikimedia Commons [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Crocodylus_niloticus_Distribution.png]. Anyone want to be nice and swipe it? :) [[User:68.81.231.127|68.81.231.127]] 14:28, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:I can link directly. [[User:68.81.231.127|68.81.231.127]] 11:36, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

== Krokodeilopolis ==
Given the etymology of crocodile, "pebble man/worm," I conjecture that the Greek city name sould be Krokodeilopolis, rather than Krokodopolis, because the man/worm morpheme of the latter seems overly syncopated.
:That would be good to correct, but any references? [[User:68.84.34.154|68.84.34.154]] 22:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

==Article removed from [[Wikipedia:Good articles]]==
This article was formerly listed as a [[Wikipedia:Good article|good article]], but was removed from the listing because there aren't any references. Otherwise it's great. [[User:Worldtraveller|Worldtraveller]] 23:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

:I used entirely on-line sources when I wrote the article. Since I have a bit of a bias against that, I labeled the section external links. But looking it over again, the sources aren't too bad -- while it could certainly use some print sources and footnoting (now that we have the new tags), and the mythological sources are at best weak, the technical information on the Nile crocodile is from reasonably strong secondary sources. [[User:68.84.34.154|68.84.34.154]] 22:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== Pictures of crocodiles ==
I would like to add my page on crocodiles to your external links please:
http://www.african-safari-pictures.com/crocodile-pictures.html
[[User:198.54.202.82|198.54.202.82]] 15:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Editing ==
Some slight clean-up and rephrasing of Introduction to remove redundancies. [[User:CFLeon|CFLeon]] 22:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

== "No animal is safe, even big cats==
For some reason, someone continues to add this sentence when it makes no sense in the context of the article. The preceeding sentence states that elephants and adult hippos are "safe" from crocodiles so it is erroneous and contradictory. Furthermore, lions are listed among the animals in the next sentence so the big cat reference is not necessary. This sentence should remain deleted from the page as it is redundant, contradictory, and overall not useful. [[User:71.248.25.226|71.248.25.226]] 00:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

:Maybe you are right. Wording can be changed. [[User:85.97.11.49|85.97.11.49]] 14:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== Crocs and Birds ==
The [[Egyptian Plover]] and [[Spur-winged Plover]] are both claimed to clean crocodile teeth. A photograph of this behaviour would be useful. [[User:Drutt|Drutt]] 14:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

== "Egyption Butts" ==
Any reason this section constantly references "butt" or "butts"? Looks like vandalism, but on the off-chance there's some meaning of "butt" I don't know, I'll merely present it for discussion. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.144.64.204|68.144.64.204]] ([[User talk:68.144.64.204|talk]]) 18:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:It was vandalized a short while ago. Fixed. [[User:Collectonian|Collectonian]] 18:38, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== Maximum size ==
Due to wikipedia as a source the largest confirmed Nile Crocodile (6.45 m.) is longer than the largest confirmed Saltwater Crocodile wich was hardly longer than 6.3 m. --[[User:Draco ignoramus sophomoricus|Draco ignoramus sophomoricus]] ([[User talk:Draco ignoramus sophomoricus|talk]]) 21:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:"Due to Wikipedia as source"? What does that mean? The source listed in the article is this: "Wood, The Guinness Book of Animal Facts and Feats. Sterling Pub Co Inc (1983), ISBN 978-0851122359 ". [[User:Funkynusayri|Funkynusayri]] ([[User talk:Funkynusayri|talk]]) 21:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

: It would be good to document what evidence Guinness based this on as it is pretty controversial - with the Salty being the generally accepted as the larger species - if the largest confirmed specimen does belong to the Nile then this is worth outlining. The Salty article does seem a lot more conservative about claims of size than this article is - for example Gustav being reported as 20-30' long - which is a huge range of possibilities - mentioning that he has been reported as being up to more than 9 metres long without comment on how likely this is may be a bit misleading. [[User:Djambalawa|Djambalawa]]

:Mokele were is the source for this 21 foot nile crocodile?

== Removal of following section ==
"However, adults also have enemies. Rock pythons, hippos, lions and leopards, and rhinos occassionally prey on adult nile crocodiles. The adult nile crocodile's biggest enemie is the rock python. The rock python coils around the crocodile and kills it, than swallows it whole. "
I find this highly suspect and removed due to lack of references. First off, rock pythons can take young crocs but I can't imagine it's even physically possible that an adult nile crocodile could be eaten by a python. Leopards are way too small to threaten an adult crocodile, and I've never even heard of an interaction between this water-avoiding cat and water-loving reptile. Hippos and rhinos are herbivores, although hippos may kill crocs out of aggression. Adult crocodiles may be preyed on by lions.

The King of Africa's Killers

The Nile crocodile is such a monstrous and aggressive creature that they have been known to attack adult elephants but not in the way you would think. They will wait for an elephant to come drink then lunge out and bite the trunk and the bite is so powerful that it can break the trunk and this can end up killing or making life harder for the elephant since the trunk is the primary part of an elephant's body that it uses for getting food and water. Now a Nile crocodile 21 feet long weighing 2,400 pounds will slaughter lions, leopards,young or even occasionally teenage or sometimes adult hippos. If a Giraffe came to the water to drink it could probably break it's neck with it's bite. The only threat to a 21 foot 2,400 pound behemoth is a hunter with a big rifle or machine gun. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.83.100.52|67.83.100.52]] ([[User talk:67.83.100.52|talk]]) 01:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Diet ==

Ok, here is the general idea. I compiled information scattered around in the whole section into two solid paragraphs of good sourced material with only minor rechecks of previous versions. If you look at 2008 edits, mentions such as separate hunting habitats have been partially removed, whereas this is the key idea here.

Two subsequent paragraphs contain unsourced text and blah about how they hunt. Unless this was written by residents of Kenya, we actually need proof. People see it as unproductive edits because the rest is just bias, so maybe elaborate there. But ummm can we please NOT have undos a/p one person trying to improve the whole article without reaching consensus meeting with same person from the other side? If you don't like what I did, discuss it here BEFORE reverting, and not vice versa, because maybe others will come and improve it.

Or give it at the very least 24 hours. I'd really appreciate that. [[User:Shadiac|Shadiac]] ([[User talk:Shadiac|talk]]) 05:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

== Carnivore? ==

Shouldn't it be said SOMEWHERE in the article that this animal is a carnivore?--[[User:Michaelphillipr|Michaelphillipr]] ([[User talk:Michaelphillipr|talk]]) 12:20, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

:You mean aside from the fact that there's an entire section on its diet, detailing on the animals it eats? [[User:Mokele|Mokele]] ([[User talk:Mokele|talk]]) 13:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:47, 23 September 2024

Etymology

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I think this etymology is incorrect and should be changed. The word "crocodile" and romance language equivalents is very old and certainly predates binomial nomenclature. The most parsimonious explanation for the genus name "Crocodylus" is that it was already the Latin word for crocodile. The Online Etymology Dictionary says the word can be traced back to Greek, but origins within Greek are unknown unless you accept Herodotus as a source. Theflashisgone (talk) 01:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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