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{{Short description|English 1979 punk rock band from london}}
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{{Infobox musical artist
| Name = Ex Pistols
| name = Ex Pistols
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| image =
| Img_size = 220px
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| Img_capt = "Land of Hope & Glory", 1984.
| caption = "Land of Hope & Glory", 1984.
| Origin = [[London]], [[England]]
| origin = [[London]], [[England]]
| Background = group_or_band
| background = group_or_band
| Years_active = 1979 - 1992
| years_active = 1979–1992
| Genre = [[Punk rock]]
| genre = [[Punk rock]]
| Label = [[Virgin Records]]<br>[[Video and Audio Project|VAP]]<br>[[Mandala Records]]
| label = [[Virgin Records]]<br>[[Video and Audio Project|VAP]]<br>[[Mandala Records]]
| Past_members = Dave Spiers<br />Alan Lee<br />Dave Slave<br />Bryson Graham<br />[[Dave Goodman]]
| past_members = Dave Spiers<br />Alan Lee<br />Dave Slave<br />Bryson Graham<br />[[Dave Goodman (record producer)|Dave Goodman]]
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'''The Ex Pistols''' were a punk rock band formed in 1979 by [[Sex Pistols]] producer [[Dave Goodman]]. Formed after the Sex Pistols had split, the EX Pistols existed as a sound-alike band meant to mislead fans due to the similar music, name, and artwork, that led people to believe their songs were actually new or lost Sex Pistols recordings.
'''The Ex Pistols''' were an English [[punk rock]] band from [[London]], England formed in 1979 by former [[Sex Pistols]] producer [[Dave Goodman (record producer)|Dave Goodman]]. Goodman put the group together after his services were substituted for those of other producers on the Sex Pistols album ''[[Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols]]''.{{cn|date=July 2018}}


The band was eventually successfully sued by the Sex Pistols, and Dave Goodman was no longer allowed to use the name.
The Ex Pistols existed as a sound-alike band meant to mislead fans due to the similar music, name, and artwork, until 1992 when the Sex Pistols successfully sued Dave Goodman and he was no longer allowed to use the name.{{cn|date=July 2018}}


==Music ==
==Music ==
The first Ex Pistols release ''[[Land of Hope and Glory (Ex Pistols)|Land of Hope and Glory]]'' was a punk rock version of the old English classic, [[Land of Hope and Glory]] by [[Edward Elgar]]. Not only did it confuse fans but it also caused legal trouble between [[Dave Goodman|Goodman]] and the publisher of the original piece, [[Boosey & Hawkes]].
The first Ex Pistols release "Land of Hope and Glory" was a [[punk rock]] version of the old English classic "[[Land of Hope and Glory]]" by [[Edward Elgar]]. Not only did it confuse fans but it also caused legal trouble between Dave Goodman and the publisher of the original piece, [[Boosey & Hawkes]].{{cn|date=July 2018}}


Their next recordings would appear on numerous Sex Pistols compilation albums including the songs "Schools Are Prisons" and "Revolution in the Classroom".
The next recordings would appear on numerous [[Sex Pistols]] compilation albums including the songs "Schools Are Prisons" and "[[Revolution in the Classroom]]".{{cn|date=July 2018}}


The band re-appeared in 1988 with an album released in Japan titled, ''[[The Swindle Continues]]'. The album was made up of the band performing Ex' and Sex Pistols tracks. It came in the form of a double picture disc collectable LP, and was also released in plain vinyl form (and later, CD).
The band re-appeared in 1988 with an album released in Japan, ''[[The Swindle Continues]]''. The album was made up of the band performing Ex and Sex Pistols tracks.{{cn|date=July 2018}} It came in the form of a double picture disc collectable LP, and was also released in plain vinyl form (and later, CD).{{cn|date=July 2018}}


In 1992 there tracks would surface again on a limited promo album, [[Deny LP]]. The album consisted entirely of original '''Ex Pistols''' tracks, and was never merchandised but instead, given to fans of the Sex Pistols or left in Virgin stores with a "Free" sticker.
In 1992 their tracks surfaced again on a limited promo album, ''[[Deny LP|Deny]]''. The album consisted entirely of original Ex Pistols tracks, and was never merchandised but instead given to fans of the Sex Pistols or left in Virgin stores with a "Free" sticker.{{cn|date=July 2018}}


A short while before he died, Dave Goodman had released a new album, "Denial of a Good Man" via his [http://www.davegoodman.co.uk website], featuring remixed versions of some songs from the [[Deny LP]], a video to the song "Don't Fear", and a version of [[Anarchy in the UK]] by the [[Sex Pistols]] with rewritten lyrics, named "Wedding Day".
A short while before he died, Dave Goodman released an album, ''Denial of a Good Man'' via his website, featuring remixed versions of some songs from the ''[[Deny LP|Deny]]'' LP, a video to the song "Don't Fear", and a version of "[[Anarchy in the UK]]" by the [[Sex Pistols]] with rewritten lyrics, named "Wedding Day".{{cn|date=July 2018}}


== Sex Pistols lawsuit ==
== Sex Pistols lawsuit ==
While Glen Matlock played on two songs from the Deny LP and co-wrote Happy Families, John Lydon was not so forthcoming. After winning the rights to the Sex Pistols music and documentation from Malcolm McLaren and Glitterbest, he was outraged by Dave Goodman using the band's name and image to promote "inferior recordings" to cash in on their name and tarnish the Sex Pistols' reputation, and for using their photographs and likenesses on the Ex Pistols' records without permission. This includes the Land Of Hope And Glory 7" single (which has the Sex Pistols' figures on the disk, albeit with their faces crossed out), the Revolution In The Classroom single and The Swindle Continues. The image on the sleeve of the Deny LP is not actually Johnny, rather Ex Pistols associate [[Tony Barber (bassist)|Tony Barber]] (of the [[Buzzcocks]]), who uncannily resembles John Lydon.
While [[Glen Matlock]] played on two songs from the ''Deny'' LP and co-wrote "Happy Families", [[John Lydon]] was not so forthcoming.{{cn|date=July 2018}} After winning the rights to the Sex Pistols music and documentation from [[Malcolm McLaren]] and Glitterbest, he was outraged by Dave Goodman using the band's name and image to promote what Lydon called "inferior recordings" to cash in on their name and tarnish the Sex Pistols' reputation, and for using their photographs and likenesses on the Ex Pistols' records without permission.{{cn|date=July 2018}} This includes the "Land of Hope and Glory" 7" single (which has the Sex Pistols' figures on the disk, albeit with their faces crossed out), the "Revolution In The Classroom" single and ''[[The Swindle Continues]]''.{{cn|date=July 2018}} The image on the sleeve of the ''Deny'' LP is not actually Johnny, rather Ex Pistols associate [[Tony Barber (bassist)|Tony Barber]] (of the [[Buzzcocks]]), who resembles John Lydon.{{cn|date=July 2018}}


After a lawsuit ensued, Dave Goodman was banned from producing anymore records made to look or sound like Sex Pistols recordings. The Ex Pistols next album, Denial Of A Good Man, was put on indefinite hold and the band changed their name to Dave Goodman & Friends. After that they re-released one more single entitled Justifiable Homicide (originally released in August 1978 and made commercially available and available for download on Dave Goodman's website) and recorded and released a music video for Don't Fear, segments of which were featured on the Chaos! The Ex Pistols' Secret History DVD. All the manufactured Denial Of A Good Man CDs were sold through Dave's website. The band has since delved to complete and utter obscurity but rumors abound of the existence of unreleased tracks such as "Fascist Regime". Dave Goodman's estate are unable to release further Ex Pistols material, but no other band members face this restriction, leaving open the possibility of future releases.
After a lawsuit ensued, Dave Goodman was banned from producing any more records made to look or sound like Sex Pistols recordings. The Ex Pistols next album, ''Denial Of A Good Man'', was put on indefinite hold and the band changed their name to Dave Goodman & Friends.{{cn|date=July 2018}} After that they re-released one more single entitled "Justifiable Homicide" (originally released in August 1978 and made commercially available and available for download on Dave Goodman's website) and recorded and released a music video for "Don't Fear", segments of which were featured on the ''Chaos! The Ex Pistols' Secret History'' DVD. All the manufactured ''Denial Of A Good Man'' CDs were sold through Dave's website.{{cn|date=July 2018}}

Dave Goodman and Kim Thraves owned a rehearsal studio with 4-track recording facilities where the Sex Pistols recorded some early demos.{{cn|date=July 2018}} Goodman owned a PA system and became the Sex Pistols regular live sound engineer until 1977.{{cn|date=July 2018}} Goodman produced the recordings that formed the ''[[Spunk (album)|Spunk]]'' album.{{cn|date=July 2018}} Goodman's collection of very poor live sound recordings of the Sex Pistols have been released as ''Live Worldwide'' (Konexion Records, Belgium) and other titles.{{cn|date=July 2018}} Some of these titles contain live Sex Pistols recordings interspersed with recordings of the Ex Pistols making it appear that these tracks were performed by the Sex Pistols.{{cn|date=July 2018}}


== Band members ==
== Band members ==
[[Pseudonym]]s used on the releases were
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*Dave Slave - vocals
*Rotten Johnny (parody of [[Johnny Rotten]])
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*Alan Lee - guitar, vocals
*Pull Cock (parody of [[Paul Cook]])
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*[[Dave Goodman]] - bass guitar, vocals
*Steal Jones (parody of [[Steve Jones (musician)|Steve Jones]])
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*Bryson Graham - drums
*Posh Pen Bollocks (parody of [[Glen Matlock]])
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*Del Bartle - guitar
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*Andy Boreman - drums
*Dave MaCintosh - drums
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*Kevin Murphy - drums
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*Dave Rose - keyboards


Actual musicians were
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== Discography ==
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*Dave Slave - vocals{{cn|date=July 2018}}
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*Alan Lee - guitar, vocals{{cn|date=July 2018}}
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*Dave Goodman - bass guitar, vocals{{cn|date=July 2018}}
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*[[Bryson Graham]] - drums{{cn|date=July 2018}}
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*Del Bartle - guitar{{cn|date=July 2018}}
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*Andy Boreman - drums{{cn|date=July 2018}}
*Dave MacIntosh - drums{{cn|date=July 2018}}
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*Kevin Murphy - drums{{cn|date=July 2018}}
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*Dave Rose - keyboards{{cn|date=July 2018}}


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== Discography ==
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|rowspan="2" style="text-align:center"|1984
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|UK
|UK
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|style="text-align:center"|1988
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|data-sort-value="Swindle Continues, The"|''[[The Swindle Continues]]''
|12" Double LP
|12" Double LP
|1988
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|''[[The Swindle Continues]]''
|VAP
|VAP
|Japan
|Japan
|-
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|style="text-align:center"|1989
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|12" Promo LP
|''[[Revolution in the Classroom]]''
|1992
|data-sort-value="07 Single"|7" Single
|S.T.P. Records
|UK
|-
|style="text-align:center"|1992
|''[[Deny LP]]''
|''[[Deny LP]]''
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|12" Promo LP
|Mandala Records
|Mandala Records
|UK
|UK
|-
|-
|style="text-align:center"|2000
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|Promo CD
|2000
|''Denial of a Good Man''
|''Denial of a Good Man''
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|Promo CD
|Vagina
|Vagina
|UK
|UK
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"Land of Hope and Glory" reached No. 2 on the [[UK Independent Singles and Albums Charts|UK Indie Chart]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/indiehits/e.htm|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010409221623/http://www.cherryred.co.uk/books/indiehits/e.htm|url-status=dead|archive-date=9 April 2001|title=Indie Hits "E"|date=9 April 2001|access-date=2020-05-31}}</ref>
==Links and further information==
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* [http://www.acc.umu.se/~samhain/summerofhate/notpistols.html "Not the Sex Pistols" - a site documenting Ex Pistols and Dave Goodman activity]
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* [http://www.davegoodman.co.uk/Dave%20Goodman/sexless_pistols.htm Dave Goodman's page on the Ex Pistols]
* [http://www.myspace.com/sexlesspistols An authorized MySpace profile]
* [http://www.myspace.com/theexpistols An unofficial MySpace profile]


== See also ==
==References==
{{Reflist}}


==External links==
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*[[Sex Pistols]]
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* [http://www.acc.umu.se/~samhain/summerofhate/notpistols.html "Not the Sex Pistols" - a site documenting Ex Pistols and Dave Goodman activity]
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20061006034831/http://www.davegoodman.co.uk/Dave%20Goodman/sexless_pistols.htm Dave Goodman's page on the Ex Pistols]
* {{discogs artist|Ex Pistols, The}}


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Latest revision as of 17:05, 12 October 2024

For the American band, see X-Pistols.

Ex Pistols
OriginLondon, England
GenresPunk rock
Years active1979–1992
LabelsVirgin Records
VAP
Mandala Records
Past membersDave Spiers
Alan Lee
Dave Slave
Bryson Graham
Dave Goodman

The Ex Pistols were an English punk rock band from London, England formed in 1979 by former Sex Pistols producer Dave Goodman. Goodman put the group together after his services were substituted for those of other producers on the Sex Pistols album Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols.[citation needed]

The Ex Pistols existed as a sound-alike band meant to mislead fans due to the similar music, name, and artwork, until 1992 when the Sex Pistols successfully sued Dave Goodman and he was no longer allowed to use the name.[citation needed]

Music

[edit]

The first Ex Pistols release "Land of Hope and Glory" was a punk rock version of the old English classic "Land of Hope and Glory" by Edward Elgar. Not only did it confuse fans but it also caused legal trouble between Dave Goodman and the publisher of the original piece, Boosey & Hawkes.[citation needed]

The next recordings would appear on numerous Sex Pistols compilation albums including the songs "Schools Are Prisons" and "Revolution in the Classroom".[citation needed]

The band re-appeared in 1988 with an album released in Japan, The Swindle Continues. The album was made up of the band performing Ex and Sex Pistols tracks.[citation needed] It came in the form of a double picture disc collectable LP, and was also released in plain vinyl form (and later, CD).[citation needed]

In 1992 their tracks surfaced again on a limited promo album, Deny. The album consisted entirely of original Ex Pistols tracks, and was never merchandised but instead given to fans of the Sex Pistols or left in Virgin stores with a "Free" sticker.[citation needed]

A short while before he died, Dave Goodman released an album, Denial of a Good Man via his website, featuring remixed versions of some songs from the Deny LP, a video to the song "Don't Fear", and a version of "Anarchy in the UK" by the Sex Pistols with rewritten lyrics, named "Wedding Day".[citation needed]

Sex Pistols lawsuit

[edit]

While Glen Matlock played on two songs from the Deny LP and co-wrote "Happy Families", John Lydon was not so forthcoming.[citation needed] After winning the rights to the Sex Pistols music and documentation from Malcolm McLaren and Glitterbest, he was outraged by Dave Goodman using the band's name and image to promote what Lydon called "inferior recordings" to cash in on their name and tarnish the Sex Pistols' reputation, and for using their photographs and likenesses on the Ex Pistols' records without permission.[citation needed] This includes the "Land of Hope and Glory" 7" single (which has the Sex Pistols' figures on the disk, albeit with their faces crossed out), the "Revolution In The Classroom" single and The Swindle Continues.[citation needed] The image on the sleeve of the Deny LP is not actually Johnny, rather Ex Pistols associate Tony Barber (of the Buzzcocks), who resembles John Lydon.[citation needed]

After a lawsuit ensued, Dave Goodman was banned from producing any more records made to look or sound like Sex Pistols recordings. The Ex Pistols next album, Denial Of A Good Man, was put on indefinite hold and the band changed their name to Dave Goodman & Friends.[citation needed] After that they re-released one more single entitled "Justifiable Homicide" (originally released in August 1978 and made commercially available and available for download on Dave Goodman's website) and recorded and released a music video for "Don't Fear", segments of which were featured on the Chaos! The Ex Pistols' Secret History DVD. All the manufactured Denial Of A Good Man CDs were sold through Dave's website.[citation needed]

Dave Goodman and Kim Thraves owned a rehearsal studio with 4-track recording facilities where the Sex Pistols recorded some early demos.[citation needed] Goodman owned a PA system and became the Sex Pistols regular live sound engineer until 1977.[citation needed] Goodman produced the recordings that formed the Spunk album.[citation needed] Goodman's collection of very poor live sound recordings of the Sex Pistols have been released as Live Worldwide (Konexion Records, Belgium) and other titles.[citation needed] Some of these titles contain live Sex Pistols recordings interspersed with recordings of the Ex Pistols making it appear that these tracks were performed by the Sex Pistols.[citation needed]

Band members

[edit]

Pseudonyms used on the releases were

Actual musicians were

Discography

[edit]
Year Title Format Label Country
1984 "Land of Hope and Glory" 12" Single Virginia Records France
"Land of Hope and Glory" 7" Single Virginia Records UK
1988 The Swindle Continues 12" Double LP VAP Japan
1989 Revolution in the Classroom 7" Single S.T.P. Records UK
1992 Deny LP 12" Promo LP Mandala Records UK
2000 Denial of a Good Man Promo CD Vagina UK

"Land of Hope and Glory" reached No. 2 on the UK Indie Chart.[1]

References

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  1. ^ "Indie Hits "E"". 9 April 2001. Archived from the original on 9 April 2001. Retrieved 31 May 2020.
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