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The main portion of this article is a Criticism of the band ....i will be removing most soon as per [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Undue weight]] just giving time for others to clean up first [[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 17:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC) |
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===Criticism=== |
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At various points in their career, Nickelback has received widespread negative reviews from various sources. Review aggregator [[Metacritic]] reports that three of their six most recent studio albums since becoming a mainstream act, ''[[The Long Road]]'', ''[[All the Right Reasons]]'' and ''[[Dark Horse (Nickelback album)|Dark Horse]]'', have scores of 62%, 41% and 49% respectively.<ref name="Meta1">{{cite web|url=http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/nickelback/longroad |title=The Long Road reviews at |publisher=Metacritic.com |date= |accessdate=14 February 2010}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/nickelback/alltherightreasons |title=All The Right Reasons reviews at |publisher=Metacritic.com |date= |accessdate=14 February 2010}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/nickelback/darkhorse |title=Dark Horse reviews at |publisher=Metacritic.com |date=18 November 2008 |accessdate=14 February 2010}}</ref> |
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They have, at times, been ridiculed for their lack of originality. In 2001, ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' criticised the band's musical style, saying, "If you're looking for originality, you might want a full refund instead of a Nickelback."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/nickelback/albums/album/310778/review/6068077/silver_side_up|title=Silver Side Up |work=Rolling Stone|author=Matt Diehl|accessdate=7 July 2009}}</ref> ''Rolling Stone'' also said their 2003 release, ''The Long Road'', was "[b]razenly consistent, if unimaginative", while Allmusic also stated, "Nickelback can now afford a little more time in the studio and a little more time to indulge themselves, and they turn out the same record, only slicker, which only highlights just how oppressively and needlessly sullen this group is."<ref name="Meta1"/> Harmonix, developer of the video game ''[[Rock Band (video game)|Rock Band]]'', gave its [[Rock Band Network]] the internal codename "Rock Band: Nickelback", "on the theory that the name of the quintessentially generic modern rock group would be enough to deflect all curiosity" according to ''The New York Times''.<ref>{{cite news | title = While My Guitar Gently Beeps | first = Daniel | last = Radosh | url = http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/magazine/16beatles-t.html?pagewanted=1 | newspaper = The New York Times | date = 11 August 2009 | page = MM26 | accessdate = 3 November 2009}}</ref> |
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In 2005, ''Rolling Stone'' said "''All the Right Reasons'' is so depressing, you're almost glad [[Kurt Cobain|Kurt [Cobain]]]'s not around to hear it."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/7668008/review/7702875?utm_source=Rhapsody&utm_medium=CDreview|title=All the Right Reasons|work=Rolling Stone|accessdate=7 July 2009}}</ref> [[Tiny Mix Tapes]] also expressed concern over the release; "Like all Nickelback releases before it, ''All The Right Reasons'' was made for all the wrong ones and follows all the formulas and clichés you should be bored to death of by now."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.tinymixtapes.com/musicreviews/n/nickelback.htm|title=Tiny Mix Tapes Reviews: Nickelback Music Review|publisher=Tiny Mix Tapes|accessdate=7 July 2009}}</ref> [[Stephen Thomas Erlewine]] of Allmusic reviewed ''Dark Horse'', claiming that "Nickelback are a gnarled, vulgar band reveling in their ignorance of the very notion of taste, lacking either the smarts or savvy to wallow in bad taste so they just get ugly, knocking out knuckle-dragging riffs that seem rarefied in comparison to their thick, boneheaded words."<ref name="AMG">{{cite web |first=Stephen Thomas |last=Erlewine |title=Review: ''Dark Horse'' |url=http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jxfexzekldje |publisher=[[Allmusic]] |accessdate=13 June 2009}}</ref> |
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In 2007, ''[[USA Today]]'' reported that "few bands inspire such intense hatred as Nickelback."<ref name="USA">{{cite news|url=http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/2007-03-20-2680499831_x.htm|title=Sales can't buy love for some top bands|work=USA Today|author=Erin Carlson|accessdate=7 July 2009 | date=20 March 2007}}</ref> The article questioned whether Nickelback's commercial success made "critics wrong", and published several statements from various sources within the music industry. Nathan Brackett, a senior editor at ''Rolling Stone'' said, "There are some bands that, let's face it, are critic-proof." Both Brackett and Craig Marks, editor in chief of ''[[Blender (magazine)|Blender]]'', credit a lot of the band's success to young people who are introduced to them on the radio and "very casual music fans who don't buy a lot of CDs". Marks complimented Nickelback's popularity despite the critical response, saying "it is a tribute to their success."<ref name="USA"/> |
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Despite a barrage of criticism, Nickelback has still managed to please some reviewers with each of their mainstream albums. Allmusic reviewer Liana Jones complimented Nickelback after their commercial breakthrough, ''Silver Side Up''; "what gives the group an upper hand over its peers is intensity and raw passion... Nickelback ups the ante by offering realistic storytelling that listeners can relate to."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:fcfuxql0ldke~T1|title=Silver Side Up|publisher=Allmusic|accessdate=7 July 2009}}</ref> Following their 2008 album, ''Dark Horse'', ''[[ChartAttack]]'' credited the band's success to knowing their target audience: "[[Chad Kroeger]] is a genius because he knows exactly what people want and precisely how far he can go. He turned out an extremely racy album that's loaded with songs about gettin' drunk and doin' it all without breaking any taboos, and with enough love and moral authority to grease its passage into the mainstream. Rejoice, North America. This is your world."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.chartattack.com/reviews/62848/nickelbacks-dark-horse-for-dark-times |title=Nickelback's Dark Horse For Dark Times |publisher=CHARTattack |date=17 November 2008 |accessdate=14 February 2010}}</ref> ''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]'' also praised the band: "The bulletproof Nickelback provides affordable fun that promises good returns in hard times."<ref>{{cite web|author=Up for DiscussionPost Comment |url=http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/reviews-album/dark-horse-1003895507.story |title=Dark Horse |publisher=Billboard.com |date=14 September 2009 |accessdate=14 February 2010}}</ref> Also various fellow musicians like [[Chris Martin]] of [[Coldplay]]<ref>http://www.gigwise.com/news/46479/Coldplays-Chris-Martin-Nickelback-Are-A-Great-Band</ref> as well as R&B singer [[Timbaland]]<ref>http://www.chartattack.com/news/78855/timbaland-is-a-nickelback-fan</ref> support the band, and cites Nickelback as a major influence in their music. |
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In 2009, ''[[The Word (magazine)|The Word]]'' magazine readers voted Nickelback "Worst Band In The World", receiving 19.8% of the vote.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.chartattack.com/news/77460/nickelback-voted-worst-band-in-the-world |title=Nickelback Voted Worst Band In The World |publisher=CHARTattack |date= |accessdate=14 February 2010}}</ref> |
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== Semi-protected edit request - Label Naming == |
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[[Jam! Canoe]] columnist Darryl Sterdan named lead singer [[Chad Kroeger]] the second worst singer of all time, behind [[Taylor Swift]] saying: "Nickelback's frontman may not have invented that post-grunge moose-in-heat bellow he relies on, but nobody does it better than he does. And by better, I mean worse".<ref>[http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/S/Swift_Taylor/2010/02/11/12838936-qmi.html Jam.canoe.ca]</ref> |
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Possible to update the label information? Although Roadrunner Records is owned by Atlantic, the band itself has never released music directly through the Atlantic moniker [[Special:Contributions/205.143.69.5|205.143.69.5]] ([[User talk:205.143.69.5|talk]]) 16:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC) |
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===Rock Group Link Missing=== |
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I don't know anything about editing Wikipedia, but when I looked up the list of Canadian rock groups on Wikipedia [Category:Canadian_rock_music_groups], Nickelback was not on it, even though the lead paragraph says they are a Canadian rock band. Is there some kind of link missing? Or am I missing the distinction between a band and a group? [[Special:Contributions/69.231.157.55|69.231.157.55]] ([[User talk:69.231.157.55|talk]]) 01:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Please see --->[[List of bands from Canada]] that is under [[:Category:Canadian musical groups]] :) ....[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 01:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:::So why are they in the list under [[:Category:Canadian musical groups]] and they are a rock band but they are not in [[:Category:Canadian rock music groups]]? I spent quite a while looking through the latter list before I went on to Google... Just curious, now that I found them. :) [[Special:Contributions/69.231.157.55|69.231.157.55]] ([[User talk:69.231.157.55|talk]]) 01:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::good question ....i say if you wish to add it ..i dont see y not...but then again i dont deal with Categories.[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 01:26, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::why is a page on Nickelback protected of all things? i tried to edit ... [[Special:Contributions/69.231.157.55|69.231.157.55]] ([[User talk:69.231.157.55|talk]]) 01:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:::I will ask the guy (Extra999) that takes care of cats for the music project and see what can be done...[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 03:30, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2024 == |
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:::: :) Solved. Added both the categories. And it is protected because there was a huge sum of vandalism last month. Thanks for telling. --'''[[User:Extra999|Extra 999]]''' ([[User talk:Extra999|Contact <sup>me</sup>]] + [[Special:Contributions/Extra999|<sub>contribs</sub>]]) 11:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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{{Edit semi-protected|Nickelback|answered=yes}} |
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== Seventh album == |
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[[File:Nickelback live belfast 12 sept 2008.png|thumb|Nickelback performing in Belfast, Northern Ireland in September 2008]] |
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I wanted to add this photo I took of Nickelback performing in Belfast, N. Ireland back in 2008. [[User:Colekane5|Colekane5]] ([[User talk:Colekane5|talk]]) 13:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Daniel Adair mentions the band's plan to make a seventh studio album after the Dark Horse tour. This interview was from earlier this year. |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 17:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/hit_the_lights/nickelback_i_guess_the_bigger_you_are_the_more_haters_you_have.html |
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[edit]Possible to update the label information? Although Roadrunner Records is owned by Atlantic, the band itself has never released music directly through the Atlantic moniker 205.143.69.5 (talk) 16:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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I wanted to add this photo I took of Nickelback performing in Belfast, N. Ireland back in 2008. Colekane5 (talk) 13:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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