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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spiritual film

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WP:OR I don't know that "spiritual" is a typical genre of film like horror or romantic comedy, but it if is, then a properly-sourced article with links that satisfy guidelines should be written. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/Redirect to List of religion films, very closely related topic.--Hongkongresident (talk) 02:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. —Hongkongresident (talk) 07:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spirituality-related deletion discussions. —Hongkongresident (talk) 07:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete While all fiction is spiritual, or at least the case could be made, the expression "spiritual film" does not seem to be notable. Don't merge since "spiritual" and "religious" are not the same thing. I don't think anyone would call "Star Wars" a religious film, although its spiritual background is well-recognized. Kitfoxxe (talk) 13:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, it depends on how you define both words. You've defined spiritual as being something ephemeral, intangible, related to the soul, which is certainly one of the senses of the word. But, for many people, as per the second sense of the word, spiritual can also mean: "2.Of or pertaining to the God or a Church; sacred". Both are acceptable usages, but I think it's better that if a reader does look for spiritual film, he get something very, very closely related like religious films, rather than a red link.--Hongkongresident (talk) 03:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - And as for Star Wars not being religious, well, we've got an entire article to cover that: Philosophy and religion in Star Wars. ;) --Hongkongresident (talk) 03:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Until the deletionists notice it. :-) -Steve Dufour (talk) 14:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A Google search shows tons of websites talking about "spiritual films," including Beliefnet.com which gives awards for the best spiritual films of the year. So certainly an article is possible. Steve Dufour (talk) 07:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete , nothing but WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. He iro 18:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:36, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All that Heiro said, plus no sources. Sven Manguard _Talk 03:19, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[WP:OR]] I don't know that "spiritual" is a typical genre of film like horror or romantic comedy, but it if is, then a properly-sourced article with [[WP:EL|links that satisfy guidelines]] should be written. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 01:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 *'''Merge/Redirect''' to [[List of religion films]], very closely related topic.--[[User:Hongkongresident|Hongkongresident]] ([[User talk:Hongkongresident|talk]]) 02:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 *<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Film|list of Film-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small><small>—[[User:Hongkongresident|Hongkongresident]] ([[User talk:Hongkongresident|talk]]) 07:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)</small>
+*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Spirituality|list of Spirituality-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small><small>—[[User:Hongkongresident|Hongkongresident]] ([[User talk:Hongkongresident|talk]]) 07:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)</small>
+*'''Delete''' While all fiction is spiritual, or at least the case could be made, the expression "spiritual film" does not seem to be notable.  Don't merge since "spiritual" and "religious" are not the same thing. I don't think anyone would call "Star Wars" a religious film, although its spiritual background is well-recognized. [[User:Kitfoxxe|Kitfoxxe]] ([[User talk:Kitfoxxe|talk]]) 13:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
+**Well,  it depends on how you define both words. You've defined spiritual as being something ephemeral, intangible, related to the soul, which is certainly one of the [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spiritual senses of the word]. ''But'', for many people, as per the [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spiritual second sense of the word], spiritual can also mean: "2.Of or pertaining to the God or a Church; sacred". Both are acceptable usages, but I think it's better that if a reader does look for spiritual film, he get something very, very closely related like religious films, rather than a red link.--[[User:Hongkongresident|Hongkongresident]] ([[User talk:Hongkongresident|talk]]) 03:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
+***And as for ''Star Wars'' not being religious, well, we've got an entire article to cover that: [[Philosophy and religion in Star Wars]]. ;) --[[User:Hongkongresident|Hongkongresident]] ([[User talk:Hongkongresident|talk]]) 03:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
+****Until the deletionists notice it. :-)  -[[User:Steve Dufour|Steve Dufour]] ([[User talk:Steve Dufour|talk]]) 14:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' A Google search shows tons of websites talking about "spiritual films," including [[Beliefnet.com]] which gives awards for the best spiritual films of the year.  So certainly an article is possible. [[User:Steve Dufour|Steve Dufour]] ([[User talk:Steve Dufour|talk]]) 07:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' , nothing but [[WP:SYNTH]] and [[WP:OR]]. [[User:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:White;background:darkBlue">He</span>''']][[User talk:Heironymous Rowe|'''<span style="color:darkBlue">iro</span>''']] 18:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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+*'''Delete''' All that Heiro said, plus no sources. <span style="text-shadow:#2f4f4f 0.10em 0.10em 0.10em">[[User:Sven Manguard|<span style="color:black;">Sven Manguard</span>]] <sub style="text-shadow:#ffd700 0.14em 0.14em 0.14em">[[User talk:Sven Manguard|<b style="color:black;">Talk</b>]]</sub></span> 03:19, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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