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I have added Maroi and Luigi as racers in the racers chart, as you see that they are shown as drivers in the video, "video game line-up" for the Nintendo 3DS official website!!!!!!!!
{{Former TAFI|date=May 20, 2013}}
==wrong?==
{{Top 25 Report|June 9, 2013}}
This article states "''In every Mario Kart game with the exclusion of Mario Kart Wii, there has been at least one beach stage''". But I am pretty sure that the Wii version actually does include a beach stage. It is one of the retro stages from the SNES of GBA version. But still, saying that it doesn't is clearly wrong.


== List of every course? ==
It is actually from GameCube not Game Boy Advance. [[User:trainfan01|trainfan01]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 03:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


This is only a suggestion, but would it be a good idea to have a list of every course to appear in the ''Mario Kart'' series? It can either be in this article or a separate one. If this idea is approved, then I'd be happy to start it off myself. If it's rejected, then that's completely fine with me. [[User:SuperWikiBrother|SuperWikiBrother]] ([[User talk:SuperWikiBrother|talk]]) 13:31, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
==Copy-cats?==
This page should mention all of the mario kart rip offs. Theres crash, smurfs, antz, toy story, pacman... almost every developer trys to cash in on the success of mario kart and it kinda ticks me off. this page should mention it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/96.233.100.129|96.233.100.129]] ([[User talk:96.233.100.129|talk]]) 01:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:Absolutely not. This falls under [[WP:GAMECRUFT]] and [[WP:NOTGUIDE|Wikipedia is not a game guide.]] [[User:ThomasO1989|ThomasO1989]] ([[User talk:ThomasO1989|talk]]) 18:40, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
== WiFi Hacking ==
I am not a particularly good writer, so I'll just provide the ground information and leave the actual editting of the article to someone better suited than I.


== About this article ==
The first known instance of Nintendo's DS games being hacked online occured in mid-December, 2005 by a hacker from GSCentral (http://www.gscentral.org) known as Parasyte. The hack allows several courses that were previously available off-line only to be played on-line. These courses include Banshee Boardwalk and Airship Fortress. Rumors abound about supposed side-effects of playing online with Parasyte, including game data being erased, the game crashing, and massive losses being added to the user's record. However all these claims have been proven to be false. Despite this, the rumors still spread.


I could see what you said earlier. We definitely don't need tables for characters and courses. This is similar to the [[Just Dance (video game series)|Just Dance articles]]. Why is the page cruft? [[Special:Contributions/45.72.206.128|45.72.206.128]] ([[User talk:45.72.206.128|talk]]) 02:00, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Links:
http://gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=759
Hacking discussion begins on page 3;
http://gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=764
Low quality video of hacked course being played online: http://mmii.info/misc/ticktockclockwifi.avi


== Characters and courses ==
==Too many tracks?==
The "tracks" section of the article was made to give information about re-occuring tracks in the Mario Kart series, such as Rainbow Road and Bowser Castle. Now, with twelve track-types listed, I think the list is getting too long. The purpose of the section is not to list every Mario Kart track-type that ever existed. I intend to remove some, if anyone disagrees discuss here. [[User:The-|The-]] 16:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


I remember that users/editors need to add a consensus before adding new sections such as characters, vehicles and courses. How do we add a consensus? [[Special:Contributions/99.209.40.250|99.209.40.250]] ([[User talk:99.209.40.250|talk]]) 14:17, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
I have now removed "Dirt-road tracks", "Jungles" and "Mud tracks". If anyone disagrees discuss here. [[User:The-|The-]] 17:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


:I'll get it out of the way first that both the list of courses and a list of vehicles are not appropriate for Wikipedia, especially where we literally listed off every course in the series and whether or not they return in future installments. None of this is covered by any reliable source. Also, none of these courses aside from Rainbow Road have a dedicated article that covers their notability. For example, a course called "Moo Moo Farm" appearing in MK64 and MKWii, with no other information given, is only useful to those that have played the games and know what Moo Moo Farm is. Same for a list of vehicles. This is pure [[WP:GAMECRUFT]]. As for the list of characters, Super Smash Bros has repeatedly been brought up as a precedent. Ignoring [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]], SSB differs in that every character has an associated Wikipedia article (or at least a link to the game it originally appeared in), establishing at least some previous notability, and the inclusion of each character is often heavily covered in reliable sources. For Mario Kart, most of the characters at this point are relatively minor or have been invented for Mario Kart (Peachette, Musician Mario, Chargin' Chuck, Baby Daisy, etc), have no existing articles, and generally don't make headlines whether or not they are included. [[User:ThomasO1989|ThomasO1989]] ([[User talk:ThomasO1989|talk]]) 17:18, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
While I'm fine with the removal of Dirt Road and Mud Tracks, there are enough instances of Jungle Tracks (in 4 of the games if IIRC) for it to be mentionable. --[[User:ACE Spark|ACE Spark]] 15:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
::Chargin' Chucks are from Super Mario World. [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C4A:5A00:A68:92E8:68FF:FE92:BE1F|2600:6C4A:5A00:A68:92E8:68FF:FE92:BE1F]] ([[User talk:2600:6C4A:5A00:A68:92E8:68FF:FE92:BE1F|talk]]) 09:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
:::And? Doesn't change the fact that it's an extremely minor character that isn't covered by reliable sources. [[User:ThomasO1989|ThomasO1989]] ([[User talk:ThomasO1989|talk]]) 16:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


== Development ==
I would consider cutting the "recurring tracks" down to Circuits, Bowser Castles and Rainbow Road, because these tracks tend to have the greatest game influence (the first or last track in GP's). --[[User:MaskedSheik|MaskedSheik]] 18:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


I love how Wikipedia itches to remove as much information as possible <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.113.60.50|24.113.60.50]] ([[User talk:24.113.60.50|talk]]) 02:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
The [[Mario Kart#Development|Development]] section needs expansion. How could we expand it? [[Special:Contributions/69.165.146.227|69.165.146.227]] ([[User talk:69.165.146.227|talk]]) 15:10, 30 January 2023 (UTC)


==MK64==
== Modes ==
The Mario Kart 64 section needs cleanup. [[User:68.194.16.14|68.194.16.14]] 23:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
*Balloons are not popped. They are simply detached from the kart.
There must be a discussion about the different abilities of the characters.
Heavyweights such as Wario, Donkey Kong, and Bowser are less maneuverable and accelerate more slowly, but what they lack there they make up for in body mass. These characters, and even yoshi and mario, can "body" (collide with) smaller characters and take away balloons that way, no weapon needed.
I would also like to see a mention of the welfare system in the races. If you are in last place you are likely to get powerful items such as lightning or triple red shells, but in first you would not get such items. The item is truly given randomly only in battle mode. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Rarichter|Rarichter]] ([[User talk:Rarichter|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rarichter|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->


Do details of [[Mario Kart#Modes|modes]] fall under [[WP:GAMECRUFT]]? [[Special:Contributions/69.165.146.227|69.165.146.227]] ([[User talk:69.165.146.227|talk]]) 18:35, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
== Critical Acclaim ==


== Article cleanup ==
As of 23 May 2006, the article states, "To this date, gamers consider these games inferior to the Mario Kart titles, Diddy Kong Racing being the only title to gain a similar volume of critical acclaim in addition to a large fanbase."


Can you clean up this article, please? [[Special:Contributions/45.72.238.106|45.72.238.106]] ([[User talk:45.72.238.106|talk]]) 21:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Is this really correct? I'd certainly argue that Crash Team Racing has also received similar critical acclaim to the Mario Kart series. For instance, video game review aggregator GameRankings.com has Crash Team Racing with an average review score of 92% [http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/196989.asp?q=crash%20team%20racing]. , which is comparable to Mario Kart DS's 92% [http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/920788.asp?q=mario%20kart] , Mario Kart Super Circuit's 92% [http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/371318.asp?q=mario%20kart] , Mario Kart Double Dash's 87% [http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/516710.asp?q=mario%20kart] , and Super Mario Kart's 93% [http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/588738.asp?q=mario%20kart] .


== Upcoming games ==
On another review aggregator, Metacritic, Crash Team Racing has a score of 88 [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/psx/crashteamracing?q=crash%20team%20racing] , fairly similar to Double Dash's 87 [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/cube/mariokartdoubledash?q=mario%20kart] , Mario Kart DS's 92 [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/mariokartds?q=mario%20kart] , Mario Kart 64's 83 [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/n64/mariokart64?q=mario%20kart] , and Super Circuit's 93 [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/gba/mariokartsupercircuit?q=mario%20kart].


The text of the article mentions a piece from industry analyst working for GamesIndustry.biz, but the citation is from gamespot.com [[User:Idesmi|Idesmi]] ([[User talk:Idesmi|talk]]) 06:10, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Is it appropriate to say, then, that Diddy Kong Racing is the only kart racing to gain critical acclaim similar to the Mario Kart series? [[User:Kuribosshoe|Kuribosshoe]] 05:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
== "[[:Mario Circuit]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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== Is ''[[Mario Kart Tour]]'' a mainline entry in the Mario Kart series ==
== Wait, does half of this stuff actually need to be in the article? ==


[[Mario Kart Tour]] is present in the course selection for [[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe]], but it also has differing gameplay mechanics. For comparison, the Super Mario Wiki does not refer to Tour as a main entry of the series. [[User:(Oinkers42)|(Oinkers42)]] ([[User talk:(Oinkers42)|talk]]) 15:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Just to take a few examples, items and battle modes are explained in the individual game articles as well as here. Does anyone else think that this article should be about Mario Kart in general rather than an explanation of every feature in every game? -- [[User:Steel359|Steel]] 20:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. The article should talk about the conception of the game series, from where the idea was picked, the commercial achievements, the storyline of the different games, the technological advances between each other, why the items were chosen, etc. In other words, this article is about the series, not the games, thus information found in the other articles should be kept in those articles. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 03:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::Having being the one to suggest these changes, it's a bit annoying having to ask this, but where would we find that kind of information? I guess commercial achievements wouldn't be ''too'' hard to find, but the rest (if it is indeed available on the web) would be buried under hundreds of Mario Kart DS fansites and the like. -- [[User:Steel359|Steel]] 23:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
:::That is the hard part of writing articles. For one side, we have information that everybody knows. For the other, we have detailed information that is not known. I believe every Nintendo fan knows what is Mario Kart about, but very few know how was that Miyamoto (or the original designer) came with this idea. Articles should have varied information, and cover as much about the topic as possible. Just ask yourself a question: what the casual reader needs to know? That is the basic information for the article. And the next question, what a knowledgeable reader needs to know? That is the expanded information, which is usually harder to come by. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 01:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


:It's not available on consoles, and is not marketed as a "Mario Kart 9". Let's try not to give too much credence to a blocked editor's edit warring unless you have reliable secondary sourcing to present. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 15:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
==Mario Kart Arcade GP 2==
::Actually, I started this discussion due to my own views on the subject (though the recent edit warring is what caused me to start this discussion now). Also, I am having trouble finding reliable sourcing on this topic in general. [[User:(Oinkers42)|(Oinkers42)]] ([[User talk:(Oinkers42)|talk]]) 15:29, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
:nintedo counts it as a main entry they have the saying not you or the super mario wiki you never convince me with the lies you say [[Special:Contributions/87.210.159.212|87.210.159.212]] ([[User talk:87.210.159.212|talk]]) 10:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::If Nintendo considers it to be a main entry, please provide a source that says so. The Super Mario wiki is user-submitted and not a source to go on. And also, "the lies you say"? We're discussing whether or not ''Tour'' is a main entry. Take a breather before hitting the edit button, would you? Your tone isn't helping. [[User:Soetermans|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">soetermans</span>]]. [[User talk: Soetermans|<sup>↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A <span style="font-variant:small-caps">'''TALK'''</span></sup>]] 11:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:A source establishing a difference between what you call "mainline" would be needed first. [[User:VehementMan|VehementMan]] ([[User talk:VehementMan|talk]]) 14:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)


== Remove "Upcoming games" section? ==
According to http://themushroomkingdom.net/news.shtml#9800, this game has been recently anounced. Waluigi and a character from the Tamagotchi series will be new characters to the series. A flyer was released to confirm the game, although no release date has been anounced. Should I add this? User:MariofanDS,2:35, 17 October 2006.


The article sites claims made three years ago and there has since been no word about a new entry, putting the validity of the claims into question. [[User:VehementMan|VehementMan]] ([[User talk:VehementMan|talk]]) 14:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
== Racing to the Moon ==
What is Mario Kart: Racing to the Moon? I do not see any sources indicating it actually exists, and a quick yahoo and google search brought up nothing.


:Agreed. I had removed this over a year ago, but it was [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart&diff=prev&oldid=1133686023 reverted back] because "speculation stated by reliable sources may be included." But it's been over 2 years. Even if it's reported by reliable sources, it's outdated and no longer applies to reality. Yes, a new Mario Kart is undoubtedly on the way, but it was obviously too early to report on. [[User:ThomasO1989|ThomasO1989]] ([[User talk:ThomasO1989|talk]]) 19:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
[[User:141.153.175.50|141.153.175.50]] 21:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC) February 18th, 2007

It's either a hack, or it doesn't exist[[User:75.67.128.65|75.67.128.65]] 23:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

==Do MKDS retro tracks count?==
I notice a the tracks section seems to count MKDS retro tracks as part as MKDS. For example, untill a few minutes ago, it said that MKDS has two snow tracks, but of course it only has one, Frappe Snowland is an MK64 track not an MKDS track. They are not unique to MKDS, they are borrowed from retro games. Furthermore, the retro tracks in MKSC are not counted, which means the MKDS retro tracks shouldn't be counted either. Why should the MKDS retro tracks count but not the MKSC retro tracks, they are both tracks that are borrowed from previous MK games, what's the differece? If the MKDS retro tracks are added back in, then the MKSC tracks must also be added in. I think they shouldn't be put in, as they are not unique to the game they are borrowed from previous games, and I will revert any unexplained attempts to put them back in. [[User:The-|The-]] 18:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Where the hell did you get the idea that if the track is not unique to the game that it shouldn't be included? if it's in the game it should be listed what you're saying is to remove the name of a track that is in the game from the games list of tracks? not to smart...[[User:SuperWiki5|SuperWiki5]] 23:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:You do realize that you're replying to a four-month-old comment, right? --''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 01:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)''

::yeah i do, and your point?[[User:SuperWiki5|SuperWiki5]] 13:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Only that it hasn't been discussed in a long time, so it isn't a point of any real dispute. --''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 00:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)''

==External links==
I notice two pages being added constantly: www.mariokart64.com (Mario Kart World Record Page) and wrvids.com/Mario%20Kart/ (Time Trials videos for every Mario Kart game). I don't think these are necessary, as nobody cares what who are the fastest ones. The first one has most of its content about Mario Kart 64, and should be put there if anywhere. The second is just a directory, not even a web page to check. Considering that these videos can be considered copyright violation (the content is copyrighted by Nintendo), it should not be linked at all. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 15:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Mariokart64.com is widely considered to be the ultimate authority on everything related to Mario Kart time trials, and time trials is an important part of Mario Kart. Whether you're looking for world records, world rankings, strategies, shortcuts, news, history, statistics, or technical information, mariokart64.com has been the best source of information by far for many years. The website contains a very large amount of information that many people are interested in and that can't be found anywhere else. The website is non-profit with 0 advertisements, updated frequently, and run by people who are very knowledgeable about Mario Kart.

Wrvids.com (also non-profit) is by far the largest online collection of Mario Kart videos, so it belongs in the Mario Kart article for the same reason that SDA (largest collection of speedruns) belongs in the speedrun article. The videos are not copyright violations because they're fair use. [[User:Mjf314|Mjf314]] 10:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

==Waluigi?==
is in the game by nds? wow, i didnt know that, i have the game and he's not available.. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/200.45.111.69|200.45.111.69]] ([[User talk:200.45.111.69|talk]]) 13:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:You mean [[Mario Kart DS]]? You have to unlock him in that. [[User:Hardcore gamer 48|Hardcore gamer 48]] 10:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

::He's available after finishing lightning cup in 100ccm;-).

== What Happened To This Page? ==
last time I looked on this page, it included a whole topic on game modes. which was completely taken away and information from it was randomly placed throughout the article. I think this change should be erased, and the article should go back to hte way it is. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xosder43|Xosder43]] ([[User talk:Xosder43|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xosder43|contribs]]) 22:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== "Recurring tracks" -- listcruft? ==

Looking through the article, I noticed this section. Now, I'd be fine with keeping that part of the article, had it not been so long. Really, the only things that should be mentioned are the Bowser tracks, Rainbow Road tracks and possibly the Circuits in a brief paragraph or two. Maybe all the recurring themes could be mentioned, provided not all the track names are mentioned and there really is more than just one kind of these raceways. The fact that "Clocks" (which I promptly removed, as it only mentions one track) and "Fairground" (which really only consists of one track listed twice) made it in makes me think it's just meant to be a section where all the raceways in the Mario Kart series are listed. I won't do any heavy editting just yet; I'd like to hear others opinions on the matter first. ^_^ [[User:Hardcore gamer 48|Hardcore gamer 48]] 10:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

:Well, in my opinion, the name speaks for itself. It should be a section on the most recurring themes in the games. I think the Bowser Castles, Beaches (it does appear frequently, right? I know at least each console game had one), Circuits, and Rainbow Roads should be the only things mentioned, unless there is another high frequency theme that I am forgetting. --'''[[User:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:#32CD32">Luigi</span>]][[User Talk:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:green">Maniac</span>]]''' 12:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

::That sounds fair enough. Also, the "haunted" levels appeared in each game, I believe. [[User:Hardcore gamer 48|Hardcore gamer 48]] 09:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Why did snow tracks get removed? There's been one of those in every game too. The recurring track themes seem notable but there ARE a lot of them... maybe a seperate article should be used? I dunno. [[User:Jezmm|Jez MM]] ([[User talk:Jezmm|talk]]) 01:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sixteen-way gameplay? ==
Have there actually been any sixteen-way mario kart games? --[[User:Muzer|Muzer]] 19:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

:which console allows 16-way, i know on ds you can have 8 players 12v34v56v78 via lan [[User:211.26.46.174|211.26.46.174]] 08:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

==Simple question==
When was simply Mario Kart released? [[User:124.181.54.218|124.181.54.218]] 12:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

::See [[Super Mario Kart]], the original SNES game. --''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 01:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)''

== Sherbet land ==

Why are there two sherbet lands? (one in MK64 and the other in MKDD) --[[User:82.207.191.139|82.207.191.139]] 18:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:Well im not pertty sure why nintendo did that all is known that there both different courses --[[User:The luigi kart assasions|The luigi kart assasions]] 9:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

== Mario Kart Mario Kart? ==

In the table of playable drivers there is Mario Kart Mario Kart as header (all players are playable). What is Mario Kart Mario Kart?
:Revert fodder. :) --''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 16:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)''
::Anyway, Kirby isn't playable in SMK or MKDD. --[[User:82.207.190.166|82.207.190.166]] 20:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)



== Color? ==
The names look better in different colors. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Javier12345|Javier12345]] ([[User talk:Javier12345|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Javier12345|contribs]]) 21:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)</small>

:Are you saying that the coloring was purely decorative? I don't know about everyone else, but for me it made reading more difficult. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] 21:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

== Even more drivers? ==

Are Daisy, Toadette and Bowser jr. (and the Pac-Man family) '''really''' available in MKWii? --[[User:82.207.190.32|82.207.190.32]] 09:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
* Maybe but it's not known yet. There was some internet gossip that they might be available but that was purely based on box art from MK Arcade. [[User:MLA|MLA]] 12:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
** Someone put Sonic the Hedgehog, Lanky Kong, Neo Metal Sonic, Stanley the Talking Fish, Vector the Crocodile. I assume this is complete bs? [[User:66.169.188.254|66.169.188.254]] 22:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:::You assume correct. This is going to keep happening, unfortunately, unless we get some form of protection on this article. = / [[User:Hardcore gamer 48|Hardcore gamer 48]] 03:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Let's limit the playable characters to only those easily confirmed in official screenshots, trailers, etc. In other words...<br />
IGN screenshots prominently show:
*Bowser
*Mario
*Peach
*Wario
*Waluigi

IGN's vid of the E3 announcement shows:
*Baby Mario
*Luigi
*Toad
*Yoshi

But somebody lend me a hand here, my PC's onboard video sucks and can't even manage 1 sec/frame on the 640x480 vid. --''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 22:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)''

== Will we need protection for this article? ==

It seems like random IP addresses are coming on here lately and stuffing around with the Playable Characters table. I know that this isn't an isolated problem, but this is just going to keep on happening if something isn't done (considering people are actually finding the new Mario Kart to be exciting, and will want to put in the characters they want in the game). I won't request protection yet, in case others don't agree with me. [[User:Hardcore gamer 48|Hardcore gamer 48]] 13:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

:We need protection in this page. Many random IP adresses are changing all. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Javier12345|Javier12345]] ([[User talk:Javier12345|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Javier12345|contribs]]) 15:32, August 12, 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>
::Protect this, yes. The vandalism is effecting other Wikis, like MarioWiki, and it is causing confusion among many Users. [[User:Poke DP|Poke DP]] 11:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Requesting now. --''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 04:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)''
::::RFP verdict was 'no' on account of constructive edits by anons. --''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 00:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)''

== Table formatting? ==

Since many characters in the series are exclusive to one or two games (especially the Namco exclusives), approximately half of this table is filled with {{n}}. I find this distracting, so I'm going to ask if the table will look better if we just leave those spaces blank rather than specifically saying "no". After all, there's {{y}} for every character who does appear in a game, "?" for unknown possibilities in MKW , so anything else is a "no" by default.

Please compare the two and tell me what you guys think:
* http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_%28series%29&oldid=152838653
* http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_%28series%29&oldid=152837890
--''[[User:Stratadrake|Stratadrake]] 03:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)''
i think u guys should put the pacman people at the botom also i removed donkey kong jr cuz dk jr is the same person as donkey kong with the tie <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.146.64.181|71.146.64.181]] ([[User talk:71.146.64.181|talk]]) 02:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Stop adding characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
Daisy, Baby Luigi and Koopa Troopa have not been confirmed so dont add them!!!!!!! (As if anyone would care) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.163.39.74|201.163.39.74]] ([[User talk:201.163.39.74|talk]]) 02:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Now Koopa Troopa and Baby Luigi are confirmed, but not Daisy <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.163.39.74|201.163.39.74]] ([[User talk:201.163.39.74|talk]]) 23:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Daisy is confirmed. [[User:Dancingcyberman|-&#91;The-DC&#93;-]] ([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]]) 12:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

In the table the section "Recurring tracks" is located on the left, with a blank gray space on the right. Is it supposed to like this, is is my browser, or is it a coding mistake?

'''Thanks''', [[User:Codelyoko193|Codelyoko193]] ([[User_talk:Codelyoko193 |T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Codelyoko193|C]]) 21:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

:Fixed. '''Thanks''', [[User:Codelyoko193|Codelyoko193]] ([[User_talk:Codelyoko193 |T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Codelyoko193|C]]) 23:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== Legacy Section? ==
Should there be a Legacy section here as Mario Kart inspired many racing games from different franchises? [[User:Gamer3004|Gamer3004]] 16:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

== Pac-Man ==
I caught a screenshot of many characters in Mario Kart Wii and Pac-Man was one of them. This is unconfirmed, but something you guys should look into. -TheDenzel <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.17.49.6|98.17.49.6]] ([[User talk:98.17.49.6|talk]]) 04:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== New Characters==
Has there been any new character confirmed?[[Special:Contributions/201.163.39.74|201.163.39.74]] ([[User talk:201.163.39.74|talk]]) 02:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

==Waluigi==
Ia Waluigi from the Wario series or from the Mario series, in Super Smash Bros. Brawl he is marked as being from the Mario series.?[[Special:Contributions/201.163.39.74|201.163.39.74]] ([[User talk:201.163.39.74|talk]])

==Removal of Mario Kart GP games==

I belive that the 2 Mario Kart GP game should be rmoved from anything listing the games in the Mario Kart series. Nintendo was no involved, they are arcade games, and they have nothing to do wiht the Mario Kart series. The articles should remain, but in, say, the list of characters in Mario Kart games, the Mario Kart GP characters should be removed. Characters such as the tomagatchi guy, Pac-Man, and Mrs. Pac-Man.[[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] ([[User talk:Igglybuff63|talk]]) 01:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe not removed, but I agree they have nothing to do with the Mario Kart Series.[[Special:Contributions/201.163.39.74|201.163.39.74]] ([[User talk:201.163.39.74|talk]]) 18:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think we should make a seperate table for the characters, and make a seperate article for the GP games, not including them the regular mario kart article. we could put the other table in the GP article.[[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] ([[User talk:Igglybuff63|talk]]) 19:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Thats a good idea.[[Special:Contributions/201.163.39.74|201.163.39.74]] ([[User talk:201.163.39.74|talk]]) 02:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I dont have time on my hands to do thi, though. it would be great if someone else could change it. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] ([[User talk:Igglybuff63|talk]]) 23:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree, they are nothing to do with it, i'll do a seperate table now, edit it out if you like. - [[Dancingcyberman]] 14:59, 14 March 2008 (GMT) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dancingcyberman|Dancingcyberman]] ([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dancingcyberman|contribs]]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I'm not going to lie. That is the WORST IDEA I HAVE EVER HEARD. LIKE IT OR NOT, THE MARIO KART ARCADE GAMES ARE PART OF THE SERIES. YOU CANNOT REMOVE IT. Nothing to do with the mario kart series. You DIMWITS! PS SORRY FOR THE INSULT. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.57.55.222|69.57.55.222]] ([[User talk:69.57.55.222|talk]]) 16:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Actually, i kinda agree with this dude. MKAGP1 had HUGE popularity when it first hit the game centers over her i japan. as for separating or deleting this, i think it should simply be classified as another topic.[[User:Iamstd2|Iamstd2]] ([[User talk:Iamstd2|talk]]) 07:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

==Donkey Kong Jr.==

I just added this character back to the character list. The excuse that he and DK are the same characters doesn't work here. If we go by this logic, then Baby Mario and Baby Luigi should be removed as well. [[User:axemblue4|Axemblue4]] ([[User talk:axemblue4|talk]])
:but the thing is that they showed is dk jr grew up...so unless its dk AND dk jr then leave it alone <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.146.64.181|71.146.64.181]] ([[User talk:71.146.64.181|talk]]) 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

No, just no. They never showed DK Jr. growing up. Their names are different, and their appearances are different. And it has never been confirmed in-game that they are the same. What logic are you going by? [[Useraxemblue4|Axemblue4]] ([[User talk: axemblue4|talk]])
Yeah...In fact, it now seems DK Jr. is DK's DAD, or maybe an Uncle?

Cranky Kong is DK's Grandad
Donkey Kong is DK Jr's Dad
Cranky Kong is Donkey Kong <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.109.254.176|81.109.254.176]] ([[User talk:81.109.254.176|talk]]) 22:25, 8 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Donkey Kong Jr. is also in Mario Kart Wii, after you won all races in 50ccm he will be available. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.177.212.1|84.177.212.1]] ([[User talk:84.177.212.1|talk]]) 18:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

You guys are all idiots. His name is Diddy Kong!--[[User:Iamstd2|Iamstd2]] ([[User talk:Iamstd2|talk]]) 07:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== Boo in Mario Kart: Double Dash? ==

As far as I know Boo is not a playable character in Mario Kart: Double Dash. I own the game and am pretty sure that Boo is just an item. ''King'' Boo on the other hand is a playable character in the game but is a completely different character and is also listed here. If I am correct, this would also change the [[Mario Kart Wii]] page which says "Making his ''second'' playable appearance in the Mario Kart series is Boo". —<span id="{{{User|bse3}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|bse3}}}|{{{User|bse3}}}]]&nbsp;([[User talk:{{{User|bse3}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|bse3}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|bse3}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>] <small>•</small> [{{fullurl:Special:Log|user={{urlencode:{{ucfirst:{{{User|bse3}}}}}}}}} <span style="color:#002bb8">logs</span>])</span> 04:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:I too am an owner of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! and have unlocked everything in the game. It is safe to say that Boo is not playable. He is only in the game as an item. Sure, King Boo is playable, but he is an entirely different character. I noticed that Boo being in MK:DD!! was added to this page by an anonymous user, so it was most likely vandalism that was taken too far, when it was added to the ''Mario Kart Wii'' page. I'll take the opprotunity now and correct both pages. [[User:Volker89|Volker89]] ([[User talk:Volker89|talk]]) 20:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks. It's good to see I'm not going crazy. —<span id="{{{User|bse3}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|bse3}}}|{{{User|bse3}}}]]&nbsp;([[User talk:{{{User|bse3}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|bse3}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|bse3}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>] <small>•</small> [{{fullurl:Special:Log|user={{urlencode:{{ucfirst:{{{User|bse3}}}}}}}}} <span style="color:#002bb8">logs</span>])</span> 18:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

==Baby Boo==
I just deleted him. Also, there's ALOT of characters listed as YES for MKW when there's NO proof of their appaerance![[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 23:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

==Vandals==

Every time i turn around people are adding characters like Baby Boo, Sonic, Toadsworth, etc. for MKW. And EVERY character will be checked as yes! Can we please semi-protect the article?[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 16:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Has Baby DK, or Baby Peach been confirmed? Untill then, i'm removing them![[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 21:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Removing Pac-Man from Mario Kart Wii ==

Someone put a checkmark for Pac-Man in MKWii.... I am assuming this is just vandalism in light of some of the comments here and since I can find absolutely no proof of it.
Edit: Actually, now I notice several more characters added... I move that this page be protected.

Removing:
Baby Donkey Kong
Pac-Man (from Wii version)
Paper Mario
Professor E. Gadd
Maybe R.O.B. from the Wii version... need to do some research. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:SirVenom|SirVenom]] ([[User talk:SirVenom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SirVenom|contribs]]) 21:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Please read "Vandals" about semi-protection![[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 21:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

::Ugh, while trying to revert the vandalism, I got caught in an edit conflict with ANOTHER vandal. I might check that page, but I have little time for these things.[[User:SirVenom|SirVenom]] ([[User talk:SirVenom|talk]]) 21:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Hmmm, the vandal is repeatedly submitted the edit to revert our changes.... the culprit is 208.70.44.60 [[User:SirVenom|SirVenom]] ([[User talk:SirVenom|talk]]) 21:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...Same happened to me![[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 21:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Semi-protection (PLEASE READ) ==

CAN WE PLEASE!? An unregistered user keeps checking YES for ALL characters on MKW, and adding Sonic, Baby DK, E Gadd, Paper Mario, Dixie, Toadsworth, etc.[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 21:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

So, IGN's the culprit yet again...

http://boards.ign.com/mario_kart/b5984/159246992/p1/

Rumours...How they start...[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 22:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

And i figured out how Baby Boo started, a magazine stated "Baby Peach, and Boo are playable." Perhaps the n00bs mistaked it as Baby Boo?[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 22:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I keep trying to fix it, but once i finish editing it back up, they put the character template in random place's, add comic book characters and tick all of the characters. - [[Dancingcyberman]] 19:54, 14 March 2008 (GMT) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dancingcyberman|Dancingcyberman]] ([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dancingcyberman|contribs]]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== The Character List ==

Why does it keep moving around the page, the likes of Sonic and Toadsworth getting entered and ticks for most characters including Donkey Kong Junior?
I was in the middle of making 2 seperate templates (One for the Main series, and one for the Arcade one) when i see that the whole page has been vandalised. Help? [[User:Dancingcyberman|-&#91;The-DC&#93;-]] ([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]]) 20:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Who the Hell moved the list around? Someone put Nikoo in there. Who the hell is he? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.163.161.227|67.163.161.227]] ([[User talk:67.163.161.227|talk]]) 01:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Fixed it, all characters unconfirmed now have question marks and unconfirmed newcomers have been removed. I shall keep an eye on this topic. [[User:Dancingcyberman|-&#91;The-DC&#93;-]] ([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]]) 11:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone really needs to lock this page from editing. The same thing happened in the Super Smash Bros. series page. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.163.161.227|67.163.161.227]] ([[User talk:67.163.161.227|talk]]) 20:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Nikoo still appears on the page, and there is a X on Birdo. Dixie Kong is also there with a tick. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.49.187.208|83.49.187.208]] ([[User talk:83.49.187.208|talk]]) 23:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

...Did you guys by any chance...I dunno...scroll up a few cms.? Not that hard. ;)[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 01:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Note to everyone, don't tick or untick a character intill they've been confirmed/unconfirmed. [[User:Dancingcyberman|-&#91;The-DC&#93;-]] ([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]]) 19:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

That's no help. The noobs who keep vandalising still vandalize. Besides, most of them don't know what a talk page is...[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 17:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Man, I came here to see what the new characters were for the new game. I clicked "List of Mario Kart characters" in the Mario Kart Wii article, but... there's no list here. Just a note that says "malteser is a playable character." What the heck? [[Special:Contributions/69.218.77.109|69.218.77.109]] ([[User talk:69.218.77.109|talk]]) 11:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

We need to lock this page! If you don't, people are going to keep vandalizing this page. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.61.222.72|71.61.222.72]] ([[User talk:71.61.222.72|talk]]) 20:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Um, yeah, now there's a "Characters" section but it's totally blank. What kind of a retarded joke is this?[[Special:Contributions/69.218.77.109|69.218.77.109]] ([[User talk:69.218.77.109|talk]]) 12:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

OMFG!
The character list is in the references and its in non-alphabetical order and the Arcade characters have been readded. [[User:Dancingcyberman|-&#91;The-DC&#93;-]] ([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]]) 17:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Why not report this to the HQ guys?--[[User:Iamstd2|Iamstd2]] ([[User talk:Iamstd2|talk]]) 07:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

==Delete==

Since noone will semi-protect the article, i'm deleting it, and will COMPLETELY start it over WHILE having protected from ALL EDITING![[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 18:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::What the hell is wrong with you people don't you people watch this page. What happened to the Mii on the list and the other ones some-one better fix this because I'm sick and tired of doing it.--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 23:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm so sorry that we don't spend every waking moment on Wikipedia. >_> The site doesn't need vandalism reverted right away, it's no biggie. Someone will get to it eventually if you don't. [[User:Ace of Jokers|Ace of Jokers]] ([[User talk:Ace of Jokers|talk]]) 11:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

It's pathetic that you guys don't care![[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 03:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

:How is it pathetic? It's only Wikipedia. Nothing bad will happen if people can't immediately get to vandalism. >_> [[User:Ace of Jokers|Ace of Jokers]] ([[User talk:Ace of Jokers|talk]]) 08:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

== here is anouther link ==

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rmcj/character/<math>Insert formula here</math> --[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 19:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)



==Protection==
I have protected the page for one week - please sort out the differences that have lead to the recent edit war on the talk page. I will be looking into the history of the contributions and will be handing out any appropriate warnings for any inappropriate behaviour. <sub>[[User:Gb|GB]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Gb|C]]</sup> 17:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==Birdo==
When was Birdo confirmed???[[User:Javier12345|Javier12345]] ([[User talk:Javier12345|talk]]) 22:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

:She hasn't been. Unfortunately due to others acting childishly, someone took the liberty to block everyone from editting the page for a week, so currently we can't rectify that. While we're on the subject of the character list; would Baby Peach be considered a Mario character or a Yoshi character? (To be honest, I consider all Yoshi, Wario and DK characters as Mario characters, but clearly not everyone else does.) [[User:Ace of Jokers|Ace of Jokers]] ([[User talk:Ace of Jokers|talk]]) 04:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::With all due respect there should only be 19 checks one for Rosealina one for Mii and other 12 from this site right here http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rmcj/character/index.html .--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 16:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC).
--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 18:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:: Unlockables
* Daisy - Middle Weight
* Rosealina - Middle Weight
* Diddy Kong - Middle Weight
* Baby Luigi - Light Weight
* Toadette - Light Weight
* Boo - Heavy Weight
* Mii - Middle Weight
:::Playable
*Mario
*Luigi
*Toad
*Koopa Troopa
*Peach
*Yoshi
*Baby Mario
*Baby Peach
*Wario
*Waluigi
*Bowser
*Dk

''King'' Boo, not the lame small cowardly ones that try to hide every time you look at them. Shame on you to make that mistake!--[[User:Iamstd2|Iamstd2]] ([[User talk:Iamstd2|talk]]) 07:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

==Edit protected request==
(Copied from my talk page as I'm currently on my non-admin account) <sub>[[User:The public face of Gb|The public face of]] [[User:Gb|GB]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:The public face of Gb|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/The public face of Gb|C]]</sup> 12:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
{{tlx|editprotected}}
If you don't mind can you please fix the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Kart#Playable_characters to this one
::{| class="wikitable sortable"
!Racer!!''[[Super Mario Kart|Super<br> Mario Kart]]''!!''[[Mario Kart 64|Mario <br> Kart 64]]''!!''[[Mario Kart Super Circuit|Mario Kart<br> Super Circuit]]''!!''[[Mario Kart Double Dash|Mario Kart: <br> Double Dash]]''!!''[[Mario Kart DS|Mario<br> Kart DS]]''!!''[[Mario Kart Wii|Mario<br> Kart Wii]]!![[Video game series|Series]]
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|[[Luigi#Relations|Baby Luigi]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Yoshi (series)|Yoshi]]''
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|[[Mario#Baby Mario|Baby Mario]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Yoshi (series)|Yoshi]]''
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|[[Princess Peach|Baby Peach]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Yoshi (series)|Yoshi]]''
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|[[List of Mario series characters#Birdo|Birdo]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{?}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[List of Mario series enemies#Boo|Boo]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[Bowser (Nintendo)|Bowser]]||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[List of Mario series characters#Bowser Jr.|Bowser Jr.]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{?}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[List of Mario series characters#Princess Daisy|Daisy]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[Diddy Kong]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Donkey Kong (series)|Donkey Kong]]''
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|[[Donkey Kong (character)|Donkey Kong]]||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Donkey Kong (series)|Donkey Kong]]''
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|[[List of Donkey Kong characters#Donkey Kong Junior|DK Jr.]]||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{?}}||''[[Donkey Kong (series)|Donkey Kong]]''
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|[[List of Mario series enemies#Dry Bones|Dry Bones]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{?}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[List of Mario series characters#King Boo|King Boo]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{?}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[List of Mario series enemies#Koopa Troopa|Koopa Troopa]]||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[Luigi]]||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[Mario]]||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[Mii]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Wii series]]/[[Wii Menu|Mii Channel]]''
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|[[List of Mario series enemies#Koopa Troopa|Paratroopa]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{?}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[Princess Peach|Peach]]||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[List of Mario series characters#Petey Piranha|Petey Piranha]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{N}}||{{?}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
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|[[R.O.B.]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{?}}
|''[[Robot (video game series)|Robot]]/[[Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]] accessory ''
|-
|[[List of Mario series characters#Rosalina|Rosalina]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}<ref>http://brawlcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=14859</ref>
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
|-
|[[List of Mario series enemies#Shy Guy|Shy Guy]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{?}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
|-
|[[List of Mario series characters#Toad|Toad]]||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
|-
|[[List of Mario series characters#Toadette|Toadette]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
|-
|[[List of Mario series characters#Waluigi|Waluigi]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
|-
|[[Wario]]||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Wario (series)|Wario]]''
|-
|[[Yoshi]]||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Yoshi (series)|Yoshi]]''
|}


Ummm...it's the same?[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 22:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

:Ummm... no it's not. [[User:Ace of Jokers|Ace of Jokers]] ([[User talk:Ace of Jokers|talk]]) 08:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


...WTF am i missing here?...[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 22:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

:One change I can see is that Birdo was changed to ? from {{y}} under the Wii section. -- [[User:RattleMan|RattleMan]] 22:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

::Or, alternatively, you could remove the entire table as [[WP:NOT#INFO|Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information]]. I won't do anything so drastic, but I'd recommend it when the protection expires. <font color="forestgreen">[[User:Happy-melon|'''Happy''']]</font>‑<font color="darkorange">[[User talk:Happy-melon|'''melon''']]</font> 15:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
::Umm No the table stays. If its gone people would start to list every thing.--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 15:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

== only 24 PC and no more ==

http://gonintendo.com/?p=37015 .--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 18:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't exactly trust that site after Baby Birdo...

[image=http://www.sonicstadium.org/imagebin/games/screens/mariosonic/021.jpg]

[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 20:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
::The fact is that there are only 24 PC the person who said there was 48 confessed and said he was lying on Nintendo.com it also sates "Play with 24 PC 12 you get from the start and the rest you unlock".--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 22:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
::http://nsider2.com/forums/I-have-received-my-reviewer-s-copy-t165974.html .--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 22:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh noes!!!! (Slaps head.) Why am I so gulible?...[[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 00:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

==Character confirmations==

Have Birdo, Dry Bones and King Boo confirmed? If not, why are they on the list? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.44.132.63|81.44.132.63]] ([[User talk:81.44.132.63|talk]]) 17:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Read the list its about all generation and don't add stuff on there thats not true if you do it again you'll be blocked.--[[User:Lbrun12415|Lbrun12415]] 20:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::: Now, I haven't seen pictorial evidence yet, but every single Mario Kart website I've visited has mentioned that Birdo IS playable. Lbrun, are you SURE s/he's not? --HeroicJay, not signed in. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/131.107.0.73|131.107.0.73]] ([[User talk:131.107.0.73|talk]]) 19:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::::Is this link enough evidence? I believe it shows Dry Bowser and Baby Daisy, correct me if I'm mistaken. I'll try to dig up more pitures I can find. (EDIT) Here's a small pic of Birdo...people say its her...they found it on a video showing the credits screen of MKW.http://i32.tinypic.com/16m7ezd.png http://picasaweb.google.com/gohanrice/MarioKartWii/photo#5187034508169902434(EDIT 2) Last pic, shows all the playable characters. I think it's a congratulations picture sent to the Wii Message Board. http://picasaweb.google.com/gohanrice/MarioKartWii/photo#5187101595559066082
[[User:AmFlip25|AmFlip25]] ([[User talk:AmFlip25|talk]]) 03:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== Game appearences ==

On the character list, instead of game series, maybe instead replace it with the character's first appearence and year? [[User:Dancingcyberman|-&#91;The-DC&#93;-]]

{| class="wikitable sortable"
!Racer!!''[[Super Mario Kart|Super<br> Mario Kart]]''!!''[[Mario Kart 64|Mario <br> Kart 64]]''!!''[[Mario Kart Super Circuit|Mario Kart<br> Super Circuit]]''!!''[[Mario Kart Double Dash|Mario Kart: <br> Double Dash]]''!!''[[Mario Kart DS|Mario<br> Kart DS]]''!!''[[Mario Kart Wii|Mario<br> Kart Wii]]!![[First Appearence]]
|-
|[[List of Mario series characters#Princess Daisy|Baby Daisy]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}<ref>http://n-europe.com/news.php?nid=11675</ref>
|''[[Mario Kart Wii]] (2008)''
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|[[Luigi#Relations|Baby Luigi]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Super Mario World 2]] (1995)''
|-
|[[Mario#Baby Mario|Baby Mario]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Super Mario World 2]] (1995)''
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|[[Princess Peach#Physical Appearance|Baby Peach]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
|''[[Yoshi's Island DS]] (2006)''
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|[[List of Mario series characters#Birdo|Birdo]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}
{{ref|1|1}}
|''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]] (1988)''
|-
|[[Bowser (Nintendo)|Bowser]]||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Super Mario Bros.]] (1985)''
|-
|[[List of Mario series characters#Bowser Jr.|Bowser Jr.]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{n}}||{{y}}<ref>http://n-europe.com/news.php?nid=11675</ref>
|''[[Super Mario Sunshine]] (2002)''
|-
|[[List of Mario series characters#Princess Daisy|Daisy]]||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{n}}||{{y}}||{{y}}||{{y}}
|''[[Super Mario Land]] (1989)''
|-
|}
([[User talk:Dancingcyberman|talk]]) 19:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

:I'd say that we don't even ''need'' the series/original appearance. Characters like Baby Mario and Baby Luigi fluctuate from series to series a lot, so it's kind of confusing. The other tables don't list character's first appearances, either, so... [[User:Ace of Jokers|Ace of Jokers]] ([[User talk:Ace of Jokers|talk]]) 10:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

::I agree. Also, what happed to the Pac-Man characters? --<tt>[[User talk:Trogga|(]]</tt>[[User:Trogga|trogga]]<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Trogga|)]]</tt> 16:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Wow, I didn't even notice the arcade games were missing until you mentioned it. They're added again now, thanks! [[User:Ace of Jokers|Ace of Jokers]] ([[User talk:Ace of Jokers|talk]]) 06:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

==A bit dry?==

Isn't it SKELETAL Bowser? [[User:SLJCOAAATR 1|SLJCOAAATR 1]] ([[User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1|talk]]) 14:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

*Nope. Actually called that in the game. [[User:GaeMFreeK|GaeMFreeK]] ([[User talk:GaeMFreeK|talk]]) 07:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

== Arcade GP separation ==

I think it would be better if the Arcade GP games were put in their own section and mentions of them struck from when the games are compared together. They're really not "official" Mario Kart games and when people think Mario Kart, they think SMK-64-SC-DD-DS-Wii and not many people have even heard of the Arcade GP games.

They were a third-party joint venture that weren't even on Nintendo consoles and it's obvious that they've strayed a little too far from the main games to be considered part of the whole group. Maybe turn them into a subseries?

[[User:GaeMFreeK|GaeMFreeK]] ([[User talk:GaeMFreeK|talk]]) 07:52, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

:I'm not sure that I agree. The Arcade games are still a part of the series, regardless if people have heard of them before or not. What do you call "official"? Games one can play at home? Games made solely by Nintendo? I'm not sure it's worth splitting a subseries into ''another'' subseries... though, I'll concede that the character roster looks a lot neater without the GP games there. [[User:Ace of Jokers|Ace of Jokers]] ([[User talk:Ace of Jokers|talk]]) 20:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


== "One for every console since the SNES era" ==

In the intro paragraph, it had been stated that ''At least one ''Mario Kart'' game has been released for every Nintendo console since the [[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|SNES]] era''. The original Super Mario Kart was released in 1992, however NES games had been developed by Nintendo up until 1994 and original Game Boy/Game Boy Color games were developed far beyond this. There were no incarnations of Mario Kart for either of these systems... and lets not the Virtual Boy. As such, I deleted the statement... I tried to rework it, but adding exceptions just made it seem trite, especially since the following sentence goes on to explain ''To date, there have been four Mario Kart games for home consoles, two portable games, and two arcade games.'' [[User:Zippo|Zippo]] ([[User talk:Zippo|talk]]) 18:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


==Ultra Mario Kart?==

What is Ultra Mario Kart i've never heard of it nor is there any info about it. Just asked before some one deletes the referance on the table.[[User:T18|T18]] ([[User talk:T18|talk]])T18 <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 13:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Playable Characters ==

What happened to the characters table? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.32.127.159|66.32.127.159]] ([[User talk:66.32.127.159|talk]]) 05:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Yeah, I think it's really useful. Is there any way it can be brought back?? [[Special:Contributions/69.0.74.119|69.0.74.119]] ([[User talk:69.0.74.119|talk]]) 14:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to standize the list after a discussion, we continue to see colums removed then re added over and over.[[User:T18|T18]] ([[User talk:T18|talk]]) 19:05, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I think something should be said for each of the characters what weight class they are in each game. <br> --[[User:PJ Pete|PJ Pete]] [[July 31]], [[2007]] 22:56

== waluigi in super circuit ==

I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that Waluigi can be unlocked in Mario Kart Super Circuit when you come first in all of the cups (extra cups included). I noticed that in that table of playable characters it said that he wasn't in mksc. So I am now confused. Is it possible to unlock him in mksc? --[[User:Brontesaurus|Brontesaurus]] ([[User talk:Brontesaurus|talk]]) 11:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

For the last time - no <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thomasgx1|Thomasgx1]] ([[User talk:Thomasgx1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomasgx1|contribs]]) 14:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== wii play ==

where do i find the 12 digit code to play online with my friends any help please
many thanks <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.215.170.120|90.215.170.120]] ([[User talk:90.215.170.120|talk]]) 16:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Arcade==

I suggest that we split the series into two, the buyable games (Main Series) and then the two arcade games listed seperatly. What do you guys say?[[User:IAmTheCoinMan|IAmTheCoinMan]] ([[User talk:IAmTheCoinMan|talk]]) 05:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

NO MEANS NO!!

Idiotic idea! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.57.55.222|69.57.55.222]] ([[User talk:69.57.55.222|talk]]) 16:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Waluigi==
Why is Waluigi being listed as a main character? He has appeared no more frequently than Daisy, who is listed as a side character. I personally think that he has even less of a history than Daisy or several other side characters as he's never even really been in a mainstream (actual storyline) Mario game. Perhaps he should be moved to side characters? [[User:Rapsheba555|Raspheba555]] ([[User talk:Rapsheba555|talk]]) 11:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

:Exactly what i was thinking.[[User:9legoboy9|9legoboy9]] ([[User talk:9legoboy9|talk]]) 18:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)9legoboy9

:: He's appeared in 4 of the last 5 games, and the last 3 games in a row. Daisy has only appeared in 3 games, one less, and none of them in a row. Also, none of the side characters have appeared in two games in a row. There all random and around the place, although if daisy is in the next game i think that constitutes as her moving up the ranks. [[User:IAmTheCoinMan|IAmTheCoinMan]] ([[User talk:IAmTheCoinMan|talk]]) 04:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== MASSIVE VANDALISM ==

Apparently someone is doing the promo of his fan game on this page (the page is littered with references to some Mario Kart REAL), the multiple references to a concurrent game would lead to believe that it could a publicity stunt. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.80.239.162|81.80.239.162]] ([[User talk:81.80.239.162|talk]]) 09:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

vandalism purged
[[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.80.239.162|81.80.239.162]] ([[User talk:81.80.239.162|talk]]) 09:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Character table ==

All games have some prose about characters. Sometimes it doesn't fit in the article, so there are separate lists. Games like Mario side series, [[Super Smash Bros Brawl]], or other Fighting games have tables because the character's information are listed in different places. I don't think the policies [[User:DKqwerty|DKqwerty]] pointed out really affect this. <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Bws2cool|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>([[User talk:Bws2cool#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Bws2cool|Edits]])</sup> 18:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

:This information, which violates [[WP:NOTGUIDE]], is widely available on various gaming sites and is simply of no encyclopedic or historical value. [[User:DKqwerty|DKqwerty]] ([[User talk:DKqwerty|talk]]) 13:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

::I don't see how it is a guide. It is valuable list of main characters. Like I said before, while other games have characters listed in prose, these games have character information elsewhere, and this is needed to direct the reader to them. Where does WP:NOTGUIDE say anything about character lists? <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Bws2cool|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>([[User talk:Bws2cool#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Bws2cool|Edits]])</sup> 13:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
::Also, might I add that you are the one who has no consensus to remove them. The tables were there for years, and you removed them. Therefor, you are the one going against "consensus". <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Bws2cool|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>([[User talk:Bws2cool#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Bws2cool|Edits]])</sup> 13:46, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
::I have brought this issue to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Character tables]] to gain a better consensus. <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Bws2cool|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>([[User talk:Bws2cool#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Bws2cool|Edits]])</sup> 14:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

:::The result of that discussion was inconclusive, but I agree with Blake, and therefore have restored the table. Qwerty, you should have discussed your massive removal of content before BOLDly doing it '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#3A003A">Pur</font><font color="#800080">ple</font>]][[User talk:Purplebackpack89|<font color="#991C99">back</font><font color="#CC33CC">pack</font><font color="olive">89</font>]]</font>''' 03:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

::::Actually, given the number of policy violations, there was no need to discuss before removing and given the continued violations, the only thing keeping me from removing it again is [[WP:3RR]]. This table violates '''[[WP:NOTGUIDE]]''' (in my opinion) and clearly violates '''[[WP:V]]''' (there is not one valid [[WP:RS|ref]] given), '''[[WP:LSC]]''' ("The inclusion of items must be supported by reliable sources"), '''[[WP:IINFO]]''', and in its current state '''[[WP:CRYSTAL]]''' (speculative character list for future game ''Mario Kart 3DS''). With the large number of policy violations (particularly with regard to reliable sourcing), I saw no need to discuss these issues before removing it. Furthermore, the table's footer makes zero sense and seems completely out of context (in addition to being unsourced). Also, if you refer to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Character tables]], it's clear that most editors do not support such tables in the articles of series like ''Mario Kart'' or ''Mario Party''. While it's clear that you do not share this view, you should probably defer to the collective wisdom on this one: character tables in an article like this one are useless and simply consume space. [[User:DKqwerty|DKqwerty]] ([[User talk:DKqwerty|talk]]) 15:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

== Beta ==

This edit has been reverted. It is constructive. Stuff that comes out before the game is actually released is considered beta. I play video games. I know how this stuff works. --'''[[User talk:BassJapas|<font color="#00BFF3">ϐαςς</font>]] [[User:BassJapas|<font color="#35077D">ᴶαϟϟι</font>]][[File:Japas Artwork.png|20px|link=Special:Editcount/BassJapas]]''' 19:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
:Beta, by definition, means: ''"A beta test is a limited release of a product with a goal of finding bugs before the final release. Software testing is often referred to by the terms "alpha" and "beta."''. Don't revert an edit and say it's vandalism if you don't know what it means. A screenshot from a game in early development '''''is''''' by definition, beta. --'''[[User talk:BassJapas|<font color="#00BFF3">ϐαςς</font>]] [[User:BassJapas|<font color="#35077D">ᴶαϟϟι</font>]][[File:Japas Artwork.png|20px|link=Special:Editcount/BassJapas]]''' 19:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I was the one who changed it initially. But I ''didn't'' change it because I "[do] not know what beta is". I had to undo everything that happened in January because the article was reverted to a version from a year ago. I didn't even realize the caption had been changed. I don't think we can call it beta though. The source does not say that, in fact there is no source provided. All we know is that it is from ''some point in development''. I actually think it should be removed or replaced with a more relevant image. That image depicts Mario Kart Wii in development, and this article contains absolutely no content about Mario Kart Wii's development. Let's use a more relevant image. [[User talk:Reach Out to the Truth|Reach Out to the Truth]] 06:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:52, 28 December 2024

List of every course?

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This is only a suggestion, but would it be a good idea to have a list of every course to appear in the Mario Kart series? It can either be in this article or a separate one. If this idea is approved, then I'd be happy to start it off myself. If it's rejected, then that's completely fine with me. SuperWikiBrother (talk) 13:31, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely not. This falls under WP:GAMECRUFT and Wikipedia is not a game guide. ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About this article

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I could see what you said earlier. We definitely don't need tables for characters and courses. This is similar to the Just Dance articles. Why is the page cruft? 45.72.206.128 (talk) 02:00, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Characters and courses

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I remember that users/editors need to add a consensus before adding new sections such as characters, vehicles and courses. How do we add a consensus? 99.209.40.250 (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll get it out of the way first that both the list of courses and a list of vehicles are not appropriate for Wikipedia, especially where we literally listed off every course in the series and whether or not they return in future installments. None of this is covered by any reliable source. Also, none of these courses aside from Rainbow Road have a dedicated article that covers their notability. For example, a course called "Moo Moo Farm" appearing in MK64 and MKWii, with no other information given, is only useful to those that have played the games and know what Moo Moo Farm is. Same for a list of vehicles. This is pure WP:GAMECRUFT. As for the list of characters, Super Smash Bros has repeatedly been brought up as a precedent. Ignoring WP:OTHERSTUFF, SSB differs in that every character has an associated Wikipedia article (or at least a link to the game it originally appeared in), establishing at least some previous notability, and the inclusion of each character is often heavily covered in reliable sources. For Mario Kart, most of the characters at this point are relatively minor or have been invented for Mario Kart (Peachette, Musician Mario, Chargin' Chuck, Baby Daisy, etc), have no existing articles, and generally don't make headlines whether or not they are included. ThomasO1989 (talk) 17:18, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Chargin' Chucks are from Super Mario World. 2600:6C4A:5A00:A68:92E8:68FF:FE92:BE1F (talk) 09:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And? Doesn't change the fact that it's an extremely minor character that isn't covered by reliable sources. ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Development

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The Development section needs expansion. How could we expand it? 69.165.146.227 (talk) 15:10, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Modes

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Do details of modes fall under WP:GAMECRUFT? 69.165.146.227 (talk) 18:35, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article cleanup

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Can you clean up this article, please? 45.72.238.106 (talk) 21:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming games

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The text of the article mentions a piece from industry analyst working for GamesIndustry.biz, but the citation is from gamespot.com Idesmi (talk) 06:10, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Mario Circuit" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect Mario Circuit has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 12 § Mario Circuit until a consensus is reached. Mia Mahey (talk) 21:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is Mario Kart Tour a mainline entry in the Mario Kart series

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Mario Kart Tour is present in the course selection for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, but it also has differing gameplay mechanics. For comparison, the Super Mario Wiki does not refer to Tour as a main entry of the series. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not available on consoles, and is not marketed as a "Mario Kart 9". Let's try not to give too much credence to a blocked editor's edit warring unless you have reliable secondary sourcing to present. -- ferret (talk) 15:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I started this discussion due to my own views on the subject (though the recent edit warring is what caused me to start this discussion now). Also, I am having trouble finding reliable sourcing on this topic in general. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:29, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
nintedo counts it as a main entry they have the saying not you or the super mario wiki you never convince me with the lies you say 87.210.159.212 (talk) 10:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If Nintendo considers it to be a main entry, please provide a source that says so. The Super Mario wiki is user-submitted and not a source to go on. And also, "the lies you say"? We're discussing whether or not Tour is a main entry. Take a breather before hitting the edit button, would you? Your tone isn't helping. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 11:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A source establishing a difference between what you call "mainline" would be needed first. VehementMan (talk) 14:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove "Upcoming games" section?

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The article sites claims made three years ago and there has since been no word about a new entry, putting the validity of the claims into question. VehementMan (talk) 14:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I had removed this over a year ago, but it was reverted back because "speculation stated by reliable sources may be included." But it's been over 2 years. Even if it's reported by reliable sources, it's outdated and no longer applies to reality. Yes, a new Mario Kart is undoubtedly on the way, but it was obviously too early to report on. ThomasO1989 (talk) 19:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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