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== interview request == |
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'''Welcome!''' |
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Hello, {{BASEPAGENAME}}, and [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: |
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My name is Natalia Olaru and I am a final year master student in the Corporate Communication programme at the Aarhus School of Business in Denmark. I am currently working on my final paper on the topic of the motivation of users to create content on collaborative media websites, the focus being Wikipedia. As a sample I chose the English and Danish portals. |
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*[[Wikipedia:Five pillars|The five pillars of Wikipedia]] |
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I would like to invite you for an online interview on the topic of what motivates you, as a user, to participate in editing and creating articles for this platform. Your real identity, and wikipedia account will be kept confidential through the paper. |
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*[[Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]] |
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I plan on doing the actual interviews in the period between 6st and the 15th of May via Skype, MSN, Google Talk or Yahoo Messenger. I am, however, open to other channels of communication too. |
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*[[Help:Contents|Help pages]] |
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Please let me know if you would like to participate in this interview and the preferred channel. |
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*[[Wikipedia:Tutorial|Tutorial]] |
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Thank you, |
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*[[Wikipedia:Article development|How to write a great article]] |
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Natalia Olaru |
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*[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]] |
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Email: natalia.ioana.olaru@gmail.com --[[User:MulgaEscu|MulgaEscu]] ([[User talk:MulgaEscu|talk]]) 12:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC) |
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==Railgauge templates== |
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Hi Keith - welcome home. I hope you had a good holiday. |
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In your absence there has been a discussion about the output of the railgauge templates over 1 foot and under 2 feet. In response to a request from Peter Horn you changed these to give an output in "feet and inches", but concerns have been expressed that this nomenclature is not used by those railways themselves, or by others referring to them, who almost always use the "whole number of inches" form of language - for example "15 inch gauge", not "1 foot, 3 inch gauge". The discussion, which has included Peter Horn, appears to have reached a consensus that we should return to the original output of "whole number of inches" for the imperial side of things, but nobody involved has the skills to make the necessary changes. I wonder if you might be prepared to assist? You can read the discussion at [[Template talk:RailGauge#Gauges between 1 ft and 2 ft]]. Thank you. '''[[User:Timothy Titus|<span style="color:green;">Timothy Titus</span>]] ''[[User talk:Timothy Titus|<sup style="color:orange;">Talk To TT</sup>]]''''' 10:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hi Keith<br>At the sane time please take a look at [[Template talk:RailGauge#530 mm - 21 inch]]. [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 15:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::Oops, make that "same time". [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 15:26, 5 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Hi again Keith. The main work has now been done. {{User|Tivedshambo}} has made the railgauge alterations. However you might still like to read the discussion, and also Peter Horn's additional comment above. '''[[User:Timothy Titus|<span style="color:green;">Timothy Titus</span>]] ''[[User talk:Timothy Titus|<sup style="color:orange;">Talk To TT</sup>]]''''' 09:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== request help with bot behaviour in lincolnshire geo projects == |
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== Star Carr == |
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Hi KeithD - Ive been busy working on some of the smaller places in Lincolnshire, and have created some pages such as [[North Forty Foot Bank]] and [[Pelhams Land]] and if I try and put in a pl: category, a bot comes along and takes it of again. Any ideas how to resolve this? Many thanks. [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 10:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi Keith D, |
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:Hi, the reason the BOT removes the interwiki link is that the page does not exist on the Polski wiki. You will have to create the article on that wiki for the interwiki link (pl:) to be useful here. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::aaaaaaaaaah I see now. doh I thought it was pl = place - not pl = polski. Thanks Keith. :) [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 07:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Bravery == |
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Thanks for noticing my edits on the Star Carr article. Just wanted to clarify; why is it better to have a book reference to Scarre with '''less''' information? I know I'm new, so I looked at the referencing guidelines and they seemed to indicate that standard Harvard-style referencing was recommended for books? So I know for the future - what's the rationale here? |
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Cheers [[User:PatHadley|PatHadley]] ([[User talk:PatHadley|talk]]) 17:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hi. I have not changed the reference just moved the book information down to the bibliography section, for consistency. Scarre was already mentioned in the article, I just took the title out of the references section as it appeared in full in the bibliography section. Referencing is done in different ways in different articles and everyone has their own favourite way of doing it, just use the one that already exists in the article for consistency. If you are creating from scratch then you can go with the method that you like. Do not think there will ever be consensus on which way is best! [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:32, 18 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::Ok cool. I get it. I hadn't properly noticed the bibliography session. I'll get page numbers for the Clark quotes next time I have the book in front of me. I'll probably be gradually updating (hopefully improving) the Star Carr article (and some other archaeology articles) in the near future. Any comments from someone as experienced as yourself are very welcome. [[User:PatHadley|PatHadley]] ([[User talk:PatHadley|talk]]) 18:44, 18 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:::No problem. I should spot new changes to the article as it is one of the Yorkshire articles that is on the project watchlist. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:02, 18 February 2011 (UTC) |
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I may be putting noses out of joint I have no idea but being new Im also being brave and just doing what seems logical to me. I consolidated Tumby/Tumby Woodside/Tumby Moorside and I consolidated Dogdyke/Hawthorn Hill/Tattershall Ferry (or Bridge). and so on and so forth. Whilst I am not actually local to Lincolnshire, I have a great love of the place which stems from happy childhood memories and a family history totally Lincs back to the 1500s. Im a real yellerbelly but I am actually a southerner - being born in Surrey. I have little interest there since my roots are firmly in the East Midlands. I have tried to make additions that matter to places in Lincolnshire which are low category because otherwise they wouldnt get done, and frankly, its safer that way. Dealing with a big important place is a bit more scary, and Im still new here. Hoping very much that I am doing ok and not stepping on anyones toes. [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 21:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Feckenham article == |
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:No problem. I tend to try and keep places separate, but that is just my preference, rather than group them together. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 21:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:: Understood - and mostly I'd agree, although there are occasions where it seems the only way to collate any information at all. In the case of [[Tumby]] theres not much to say about it apart from the old railway station which has its own page. I did one on [[North Forty Foot Bank]] - and within the scope of that lies settlements such as Hedgehog Bridge and Toft Tunnel which are barely even marked on the map. So I kind of do what seems right at the time - after all, it can always be changed. [[Wainfleet St Mary]] pointed to [[Wainfleet]] (All Saints) but I managed to find something on the place, undid the 'revert to' and created a page. Hopefully anyone with more info will come along one day and do the same with places like Tumby and North Forty Foot Bank. :) Liking your work by the way [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 20:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== FARC == |
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Thanks for adding [[Feckenham Forest]] to Warwickshire project. You assessed as 'start' class - better than 'stub' ;) any feedback would be really appreciated. Thank you [[User:JimKillock|Jim Killock]] [[User_talk:JimKillock|(talk)]] 16:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:No problem, I am just doing a tagging run and picking up articles under the county category. Just had a quick look and the article could do with co-ordinates adding and probably a map of the area producing. The lead needs some context for example add England so that those who do not know UK geography can have some idea of where you are talking about. The King is mentioned in a number of places but probably may be better to use the crown as it could be the queen and it leaves you wondering if a specific King in meant. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC) |
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{{#if:|[[User:{{{2}}}]] has|I have}} nominated [[Sheffield Wednesday F.C.]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/{{#if:Sheffield Wednesday F.C./archive1|Sheffield Wednesday F.C./archive1|Sheffield Wednesday F.C./archive{{#if:||1}}}}|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]]. <span style="font-family:serif;">[[User:Arsenikk|<strong style="color:green;">Arsenikk</strong>]] [[User_talk:Arsenikk|<sup style="color:grey;">(talk)</sup>]]</span> 09:36, 14 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Shahid Malik]] == |
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== WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - May 2011 == |
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<big>'''The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire|WikiProject Yorkshire]] Newsletter'''</big><br/> Issue 37 - May 2011 <br /> |
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* Welcome to the thirty seventh [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire|WikiProject Yorkshire]] monthly newsletter. |
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* Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,899 last month to 8,918 on April 19th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 66 is just ahead of [[WP:GM]] who have 62. [[WP:GM]] has the lead in FAs at 51 out of a total number of 2,413 articles. |
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If you look at what initiated the issue you will find it was ill-informed and factually incorrect. This was then developed further by shakehandsman. He and I have had an exchange and I have been very fair and have given facts. I have since had no response from the other party and hence I do not believe there is any further legitimate issue. |
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:Hi keith |
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{{classicon|FA}}Currently we have twenty six Yorkshire featured articles: |
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:it was DAVIDBrave btw. sorry i'm new to this. thanks <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DAVIDBrave|DAVIDBrave]] ([[User talk:DAVIDBrave|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DAVIDBrave|contribs]]) 03:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::There are several issues identified on the talk page that need addressing. The tag should remain until these have been addressed. It should be removed by someone independent of the two parties involved unless you both agree to it being removed. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 18:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC) |
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[[Henry Moore]] • [[Caedmon]] • [[Sheffield Wednesday F.C.]] • [[George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore]] • [[History of Sheffield]] • [[York City F.C.]] • [[Joseph Priestley]] • [[Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C.]] • [[M62 motorway]] • [[Valley Parade]] • [[William Wilberforce]] • [[History of Bradford City A.F.C.]] • [[Last of the Summer Wine]] • [[Ealdred (bishop)]] • [[Paulinus of York]] • [[Wilfrid]] • [[Cosmo Gordon Lang]] • [[Thomas of Bayeux]] • [[Cottingley Fairies]] • [[Wilfred Rhodes]] • [[Guy Fawkes]] • [[Yorkshire captaincy affair of 1927]] • [[Roy Kilner]] • [[George Macaulay]] • [[Frederick Delius]] • [[Battle of Towton]] |
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==commons : Humber estuary/River humber== |
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Hello, [http://commons.wikimedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=File:Low_Tide_at_Goxhill_Haven_-_geograph.org.uk_-_540722.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=49620812&oldid=49299815 eg] when categorising at commons could you use "Humber estuary" instead of "River humber" - so that there is only one of the two category being populated thanks. I am moving the remainder of images to the "Humber estuary" category whilst categorising. Thanks.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 19:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC) |
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{{classicon|FA}} There are also twelve featured lists: |
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'''Also''' I think you are overcategorising on some images eg [http://commons.wikimedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=File:Where_the_Hedon_Haven_meets_the_Humber_-_geograph.org.uk_-_557091.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=49828497&oldid=49319228] "hedon haven" is a subcat of "paull" and I didn't see any fields or footpaths in the image. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=File:Where_the_Hedon_Haven_meets_the_Humber_-_geograph.org.uk_-_557091.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=50298772&oldid=49828497 my edit] . [[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 19:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:For linear features that cover several places I am leaving the location category in place so that you get all of the images in the place together rather than have to filter out from the sub-cat. If the sub-cat is totally in the place then the location can can be removed from the parent. Heven Haven covers a number of parishes thus the location cat on the parent is still in place. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC) |
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[[List of York City F.C. Clubmen of the Year]] • [[List of York City F.C. managers]] • [[List of York City F.C. players]] • [[List of York City F.C. seasons]] • [[List of Bradford City A.F.C. seasons]] • [[List of York City F.C. records and statistics]] • [[List of Leeds United A.F.C. seasons]] • [[List of Scarborough F.C. seasons]] • [[List of awards and nominations received by Arctic Monkeys]] • [[List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Cleveland]] • [[List of Hull City A.F.C. seasons]] • [[List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Northern England]] |
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::That's all great but why don't you read the instructions - see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categories#For_more_appropriate_categorization - it's basically the same as categorisation on wikipedia, - I'm thinking of this sentence in particular ''Generally files should only be in the most specific category that exists for certain topic'' |
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::What it doesn't mention is that if you populate a category with many images you dont see all the subcategories, leaving all the images in a higher level category is completely moronic, stop doing it.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 16:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC) |
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'''Thank you and well done''' to all those who contributed. |
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== Please add == |
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Please add these specifications. |
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*{{railgauge|1.8}}, {{railgauge|1.8m}}, {{railgauge|1800}} and {{railgauge|1800mm}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=5|in=10|num=7|den=8|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|m=1.8}}. |
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*{{railgauge|71}}, {{railgauge|71in}}, {{railgauge|71"}}, {{railgauge|5ft11in}} and {{railgauge|5'11"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=5|in=10|num=7|den=8|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|m=1.8}}. |
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[[Special:Contributions/58.138.55.55|58.138.55.55]] ([[User talk:58.138.55.55|talk]]) 12:28, 23 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:See [[Template:RailGauge]]. [[Special:Contributions/58.138.55.55|58.138.55.55]] ([[User talk:58.138.55.55|talk]]) 12:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::{{Done}} [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 14:24, 23 February 2011 (UTC) |
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Please add these specifications. |
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{{icon|NOGA}} [[Brontë family]] failed GA on '''April 1st'''<br /> |
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*{{railgauge|0.512}}, {{railgauge|0.512in}} and {{railgauge|0.512"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=|in=0.512|num=|den=|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|mm=13}}. |
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*{{railgauge|0.551}}, {{railgauge|0.551in}} and {{railgauge|0.551"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=|in=0.551|num=|den=|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|mm=14}}. |
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*{{railgauge|0.945}}, {{railgauge|0.945in}} and {{railgauge|0.945"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=|in=0.945|num=|den=|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|mm=24}}. |
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*{{railgauge|1.339}}, {{railgauge|1.339in}} and {{railgauge|1.339"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=|in=1.339|num=|den=|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|mm=34}}. |
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*{{railgauge|1.89}}, {{railgauge|1.89in}} and {{railgauge|1.89"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=|in=1.890|num=|den=|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|mm=48}}. |
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*{{railgauge|2.52}}, {{railgauge|2.52in}} and {{railgauge|2.52"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=|in=2.52|num=|den=|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|mm=64}}. |
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*{{railgauge|118}}, {{railgauge|118in}}, {{railgauge|118"}}, {{railgauge|9ft10in}} and {{railgauge|9'10"}} are really {{RailGauge/sandbox/imperial|ft=9|in=10|num=|den=|lk={{{lk}}}|disp={{{disp}}}|mm=2997}}. |
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[[Special:Contributions/58.138.55.55|58.138.55.55]] ([[User talk:58.138.55.55|talk]]) 07:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}} [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 21:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== Thanks - please advise. == |
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; Member News |
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Thank you for correcting dates on the Eaglescliffe page, however your edit remark "use them" was somewhat pretentious, and I might suggest you look to your own talk page header: |
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* Be polite |
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* Assume good faith |
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* Avoid personal attacks |
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* Be welcoming |
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There are now 85 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the April newsletter: |
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I take over-bearing public demands such at that as personal, rude and unnecessary and would respectfully request that in future you raise any issues with how people edit things to them directly than through snide edit notes. Having now checked the Dates page I see that ordinals are not used, as you say, but the order "month day, year" is acceptable. So I am unsure what you mean by the page being "tagged" for any other method. Perhaps you can do the courtesy of explaining, as a good admin probably should do in the first place towards newly registered members such as myself, i.e "Be welcoming". |
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Thanking you in advance, for your understanding in this matter. |
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No members left the project this month: though the number of |
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[[User:MarcusBritish|MarcusBritish]] ([[User talk:MarcusBritish|talk]]) 19:07, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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[[tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/useractivity.py?page=Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Members&days=365&action=table|active members]] is still currently low. |
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:Sorry, you got me at a bad time with lots of problem articles and edits all at the same time. I apologise for being so curt with the edit summary. The article is tagged with the template {{tl|use dmy dates}} which indicates which type of dates to be used in the article, mainly for BOT use, but indicates if day first or month first dates are used. {{tl|use mdy dates}} is used for month first dates. Normally for US articles it is month first and the rest is day first, if no template or other indication is found. If you do not want to look for the template then in puts the article in a hidden category and you can see these by setting "Show hidden categories" in your preferences (on the Appearance tab under Advanced options). [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks, no problems. Have checked the setting mentioned, seems its unchecked by default and I identified the tag mentioned. Will bear in mind to look out for these things in future. Regards, [[User:MarcusBritish|MarcusBritish]] ([[User talk:MarcusBritish|talk]]) 21:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== portal DYK == |
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* A very big {{Thank you}} to all the editors who labour away quietly and help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. |
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is Portal:Lincolnshire/Did you know . . . still going? |
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I've just created [[Mareham Lane]] and thought it might make a local DYK... DYK Mareham Lane is the route of a roman road? |
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<br>--[[User:Robert EA Harvey|Robert EA Harvey]] ([[User talk:Robert EA Harvey|talk]]) 17:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:The DYKs on the portal come from the DYK entries for Lincolnshire articles that have appeared on the front page. May be you could nominate your article for the [[WP:DYK]] feature, there has not been any Lincolnshire ones on the main page that I know of recently. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:16, 27 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::Ah, right. Not too interested in that. The Dogdyke engine nomination was treated very rudely. Not sure I fancy another peek over that parapet. Don't let me stop you nominating, but they'd probably want another 2000 worms, and I'm not sure they are findable..--[[User:Robert EA Harvey|Robert EA Harvey]] ([[User talk:Robert EA Harvey|talk]]) 23:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC) |
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* To members who have added suggestions to the ToDo list at [[Portal:Yorkshire|Yorkshire Portal]]. |
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== Thanks == |
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Keith D - apologies, I'm new to this so please scrub this if it's been put in the wrong place. |
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Thanks for cleaning up the [[Langwith College]] page, greatly appreciated - the biggest problem on wikipedia, I feel, is the lack of uniformity and it is a great help for you to assist! |
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* To the football and rugby editors who have done stirling work in keeping abreast of the top clubs. |
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All the best, |
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[[User:University-7845120|University-7845120]] ([[User talk:University-7845120|talk]]) 17:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:No problem, just for future reference - new comments go at the end of a talk page. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC) |
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* To all the WikiProkject Yorkshire editors who have been busy on vandal patrol at [[Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/watchlist|watchlist]]. |
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Hi Keith, Thanks for the spelling update on this and other articles of mine, I cant believe there wer so many under one sub heading ah well I really must proof read them a bit more thoroughly or put them into word and spell check them as a final check. Thanks again and cheers Adrian [[User:Argrogan|Argrogan]] ([[User talk:Argrogan|talk]]) 20:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:I use the spell checker that plugs in to Firefox to pick-up on obvious ones. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC) |
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== Would later become == |
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I see you have been amending "would later become" to "later became". Bravo! It is a most annoying phrase and an example of the sloppiest style of writing. I alter it whenever I come across it. Another one that annoys me is the use of "featuring" or "features" as in "the album features the song XXXXX" when "includes" would suffice. Keep it up. [[User:Emeraude|Emeraude]] ([[User talk:Emeraude|talk]]) 12:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. There are hundreds of them, I have only done the articles with the word Yorkshire in, apart from 1 which appears to be a quote. I am surprised that it appears in FA articles. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 12:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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==Ravensworth== |
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is the [[Ravensworth]] article still only at "Start" level? I'm getting some books out from the library as soon as time permits, as a lack of raw information is what is holding me back. [[User:Farrtj|Farrtj]] ([[User talk:Farrtj|talk]]) 17:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:A quick look at it and it looks like a C-class now. Main problems are the references, your latest set of edits has introduced an error in one of the entries, and the lead which needs to be expanded as per [[WP:LEAD]]. It may be best to leave the lead until after you have expanding the article. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 18:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Hello Keith == |
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Hi Keith, |
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It's been quite a while; I hope all's well. I've not been very active with the project for a while now, but circumstances have changed and I find I'm able to start easing back into editing again more regularly. If you like, you can also unprotect my user pages; I'd honestly forgotten they were semi-protected after that vandalism spree until the last few days. I think I'm safe now. |
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Cheers, [[User:Northumbrian|Northumbrian]] ([[User talk:Northumbrian|talk]]) 19:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hi, nice to see you back in action. There has been no movement on the Hull City players article since you were last around but the season overview article was redone in the standard format and promoted to FL status. |
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:I have unprotected your user page - I had forgotten that I had protected it. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 22:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Dolly (trailer)]] and [[Talk:Dolly (trailer)#I.T.E.C. H-dolly]] == |
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Hi Keith<br> |
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[[User:AtholM]] deemed any and all of the following links "spam". |
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*[http://www.itec-inc.com/dolly/index.html I.T.E.C. Inc., Converter dollies and other options] OK |
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*[http://www.itec-inc.com/frames/dolly/options.html I.T.E.C. Inc., Converter dollies and other options]({{dead}}?) |
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*[http://www.itec-inc.com/frames/dolly/C-Dolly.htm I.T.E.C. C-Dolly]({{dead}}?) |
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*[http://www.itec-inc.com/frames/dolly/tandem.html I.T.E.C. H-Dolly or tandem dolly]({{dead}}?) |
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Your input please. [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 00:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hi Keith<br>I'm awaiting your reply/opinion. [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 20:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::I have not responded as I have no knowledge of the subject. I cannot see why a manufacturer link is counted as spam if that is the only way of referencing the item in question. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 21:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:My question was/is: Do any, or all, of the above links constitute "advertsing" per se and hence does their inclusion under the heading "External links" constitute "spam" in any way whatsoever as [[User:AtholM|AtholM]] so insistenly maintains. If he be right then we should remove ''all'' manufactuters webistes from the "External links" section of ''all'' articles. Knowledge, or no knowledge, of this or any other subject is not the issue here, or anywhere else. What is the issue is whether or not the inclusion of manufacturers websites as references in the "External links" section of the [[Dolly (trailer)]] article and all other articles constitutes "spam". No frivolous exceptions. To get right down to it, all corporate websites are to a large extend [[advertising]]. You (I quote you) "cannot see why a manufacturer link is counted as spam if that is the only way of referencing the item in question". May be you can help me to convince [[User:AtholM|AtholM]] of that. [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 16:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Added: (for good measure) |
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*[http://www.publiquip.com/photo/1711200177.jpg Publiquip] |
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*[http://www.google.ca/search?q=Asetrail&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&redir_esc=&ei=tNVZTKWAG-OlsQag5un8Cw Remorque ASETRAIL: Atelier Ste-Émilie] ({{dead}}?) |
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*[http://www.asetrail.com/Remorques-Detail.asp?eqpno=-1543566939 Asetrail] |
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*[http://www.asetrail.com/ Remorque ASETRAIL: Atelier Ste-Émilie] |
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[[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 17:40, 14 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:[[WP:ELOFFICIAL]] provides an exception for the official web site of the subject of the article. If the articles are about the subject then their official web site can be used in the External links section under this exception regardless of what the "Links to be avoided" section says. In this case it looks as though the topics are about general items that could come from various manufacturers so to single out a single one for inclusion would be wrong. If you say that there is no other resource for a particular one of these then I would expect that link could be used in the references section of the article. If it is a more general article on the topic then it could appear in the External links section. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::That is why I added [http://www.asetrail.com/Remorques-Detail.asp?eqpno=-1543566939 Asetrail] above (three that work). So far it is the ''only'' other manufacturer I have been able to find. [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 00:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC) |
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==Merge discussion for [[Winterbourne, Gloucestershire ]]== |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] An article that you have been involved in editing, [[Winterbourne, Gloucestershire ]], has been proposed for a [[Help:Merging and moving pages|merge]] with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going {{ #if:Talk:Winterbourne, Gloucestershire#Merger from Civil Parish of Winterbourne |[[Talk:Winterbourne, Gloucestershire#Merger from Civil Parish of Winterbourne |here]]|to the article and clicking on the (Discuss) link at the top of the article}}, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. [[User:Skinsmoke|Skinsmoke]] ([[User talk:Skinsmoke|talk]]) 10:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC) <!-- Template:mergenote --> |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shayne_Ward&action=historysubmit&diff=433060778&oldid=433051549] duh? what was I thinking? [[Special:Contributions/Active_Banana|''Active'']] [[User:Active Banana|<span style="color:orange;">'''Banana'''</span>]] [[User talk:Active Banana|<span style="color:orange;">(<sup>''bananaphone''</sup></span>]] 17:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Butlins Skegness]] == |
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:Thanks for that, but you have done most of the graft on the article. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 22:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Thank you very much for pointing out the reversing of units. I've stopped the bot and I can now see how it happened. I'll fix it and track back through the articles. |
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- for the congrats Keith. It was a rough ride, but I got there in the finish! --[[User:Kudpung|Kudpung]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 18:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC) |
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With regard to 'sp=us', it's a requirement. The old template defaults to US spelling, the new one defaults to non-US spelling. Therefore to prevent a spelling change, I'm obliged to add 'sp=us'. If you look at the article before and after the edit, you'll see that the spelling hasn't changed. You'd have to go back into the article history to see who added the US spelling. The upside is that 'sp=us' is visible in edit mode (unlike the previous default) and can be corrected more easily. |
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Thanks for your sterling work, keeping an eye on things! I've now added a few extra citations in response to your "citations needed" template, so let's hope they stick.--[[User:Storye book|Storye book]] ([[User talk:Storye book|talk]]) 20:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Thanks again. [[User:Lightmouse|Lightmouse]] ([[User talk:Lightmouse|talk]]) 21:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. I have change a few articles that are on my watchlist. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 21:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:: Haha, ''touché'' - I missed that stage - I had put the cite back and said that the BMW and Mercedes in the text resembled advertising. Well I won't contest it if they remove the original cite, then. We now have enough citations for the bit about the imminent business park. --[[User:Storye book|Storye book]] ([[User talk:Storye book|talk]]) 23:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Thanks for doing those. I've identified and fixed more. There shouldn't be any reversals left now. Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Lightmouse|Lightmouse]] ([[User talk:Lightmouse|talk]]) 10:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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You're right. I verified it. I have to remember to check the quarter as well as the year. I'll fix Liz Smith and Cathleen Nesbitt (same mistake). Thanks. [[User:Rms125a@hotmail.com|Rms125a@hotmail.com]] ([[User talk:Rms125a@hotmail.com|talk]]) 23:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
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==Barrow AFC== |
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Hi, I noticed your recent edit on the page [[Barrow A.F.C.]], Please note your edit has been removed as it has be classed as vandalism. |
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If you have any questions please state them on my user talk page, Thanks. |
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[[User:Barrovian|Barrovian]] ([[User talk:Barrovian|talk]]) 12:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:I cannot see how you can class this as vandalism, I was just completing the team name as per what appears to be the consensus of [[WP:FOOTY]]. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 12:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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I looked at [[wp:vandal]] and it doesn't look like vandalism to me. I wonder how many other edits are being reverted and how many other good faith editors are being accused. Barrovian, can you look again and see if you're mistaken here and elsewhere? [[User:Lightmouse|Lightmouse]] ([[User talk:Lightmouse|talk]]) 13:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hi Keith. I just noticed [[User:Barrovian|Barrovian]] claims to be 13 years old. Based on the frequency of edits, I suspect it's a flyby revert. Feel free to undo the revert. Or ignore it, as you wish. If it gets reverted again, we can take it up somewhere relevant and I'll join the discussion. [[User:Lightmouse|Lightmouse]] ([[User talk:Lightmouse|talk]]) 13:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. I was thinking of opening a general discussion on this on [[WP:FOOTY]] as we seem to keep getting the problem with a number of editors on lower league articles, yet we are inconsistent, in that the major English clubs appear to have the F.C./A.F.C. absent. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 15:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Yes ... forgive my butting in here but when you look at the Project I'm sure you'll want to check the Talk archives. It's been discussed a fair bit before and every so often someone comes along and starts a new crusade to make sure that ''all ''the infobox headers must - ''right now'' - say just ''Townname,'' or ''Townname FC,'' or ''Townname AFC, ''or ''Townname F.C., ''or ''Townname A.F.C.,'' or whatever. I accidentally got involved in one of these sprees a while back, and wished I had not - it's a real can of worms and attracts some, er, interesting views - I'm not sure if it ever reached a conclusion, or maybe I just didn't see it, as I may have started to lose the will to live a little somewhere along the line. I wish you luck with it. (In passing I thought ''"has to be classed as vandalism"'' above was spectacularly inappropriate - I've never really seen you as one of Wikipedia's more active vandals - and I congratulate you on not reacting strongly to it!) :) Best wishes [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 17:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks for the warning, can you give a link to the discussion as I cannot locate it at the moment. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 18:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::I'll have a look and get back to you asap. It was a while ago ... [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 23:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::OK, I've recalled a bit more about what it was. had an editing spree on removing FC etc from the clubname parameter from football club infoboxes. It seems that then the consensus was that it ''should'' be there, although now it looks like there may be consensus that it should not. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Middlesbrough_F.C.&diff=318709725&oldid=318696995 this] for example. Now my recollection of what went on is a bit shaky but I think I got tangentially involved with this, found it a bit tricky, and then when I went to the Footy project to try and see what the consensus was, found that very difficult to nail down. Maybe it is better now - I'm not sure. One thing that muddies it a bit was that this was a rather specific sub-debate about that infobox parameter, whereas the debates in the project are quite often about the article name itself... I'm still unclear as to whether they should or should not be the same thing. I cannot now find the specific things I remember from then but stuff like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mossley_A.F.C.#Protection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_29#Naming_conventions_for_clubs.3F http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_29#Difference_between_FC_.26_F.C..3F are the kinds of things that confused me. Maybe it's better now. I'm not really helping much, am I? Sorry! Best wishes [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 23:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::Thanks. I remember [[User talk:Sarumio|Sarumio]] and the problems we had then. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 00:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Rochdale Canal]] == |
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Response on my page. [[User:Bob1960evens|Bob1960evens]] ([[User talk:Bob1960evens|talk]]) 13:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Somerby]] == |
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Dear Keith, today I created an article on Somerby near Brigg, which falls in the West Lindsey district of Lincs. I then realised that there is also a Somerby near Gainsborough in the West Lindsey district of Lincs. (As well as Old Somerby near Grantham, Somersby near Spilsby (article already exists) and Somerby Leics. |
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My question is, with two places in West Lindsey - the one I created being near Brigg, and the other uncreated, what would be an appropriate name for a page on Somerby near Gainsborough, West Lindsey? Many thanks for your advice on this. [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 19:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC) Sorry re-editing due to my own spelling mistake. [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 19:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:My gazetteer has the one near Bigby as [[Somerby (juxta Bigby)]] which you could use for one of them, the other one could be then be just [[Somerby, West Lindsey]] with a {{tl|Distinguish}} HAT note. If not then you will have to go with [[Somerby near Gainsborough]]. While you are there can you take a look at [[Grasby]] which I checked while investigating this and think that should be in West Lindsey rather than North Lincolnshire. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:59, 15 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thank you very much - imminent grandson/probs with elder family members may prevent me giving input pls refer either to my own page of those of Acabashi, Sitush, Carole_henson if you dont hear from me tomorrow or in the next couple of days. I value your decision and would go with it but have real life to deal with as well. Many thanks for your input it is very much appreciated. Sorry if there is no immediate response forthcoming, but it WILL be done [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 20:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Corrected Grasby & added infobox. Have not worked on citations for that article but will do so in time :) [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 13:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks for that, I could not work out the border from the online map but the map in the imfobox shows it south of the North Lincolnshire border. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Welcome - I followed your advice on renaming Somerby. [[Somerby, West Lindsey]] points to the Gainsborough one, and I moved the original one (Somerby, Lincolnshire) to [[Somerby (Juxta Bigby), Lincolnshire]] - stupidly I forgot to remove the Lincolnshire bit, but, at least they are done. I also left a note on Talk page for future editors regarding two Somerbys in West Lindsey, and the hat note at the top of the article page. [[User:Panderoona|Panderoona]] ([[User talk:Panderoona|talk]]) 17:41, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi Keith,<br>At [[Template talk:RailGauge#Please add]] I posted {{RailGauge|5ft1/2in}} or {{RailGauge|60.5}} and {{RailGauge|1062mm}} ({{convert|1,062|mm|ftin|1|abbr=on|disp=s}}). [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 17:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:I noticed that the 1/2 in or 0.5 in "got lost in the shuffle". [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 19:00, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Too quick, I am still trying to get that to come out. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::OK - though comes with a zero. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 20:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Hi<br>Another two more at [[Template talk:RailGauge#Please add]] & a correction required at [[Template talk:RailGauge#Rail gauge correction required]] [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 00:19, 21 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Both of these seem to have been queried on the talk page. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 13:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:For [[Georgian Railways#History]] please add ({{RailGauge|912mm|disp=s}}) to replace ({{convert|912|mm|ftin|2|abbr=on|disp=s}}) [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 01:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::The source for this is a dead link in the article - is there a live link for it? [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 08:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Finding a new link will take some doing (a lot of work). [[User:Peter Horn|Peter Horn]] [[User talk:Peter Horn|User talk]] 02:23, 8 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Aylesford School]] == |
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The information about OFSTED and the Information about the school is not correct. The information about OFSTED is completely factually inaccurate and I have been asked by the headteacher to remove this information and to place some temporary information on the page, whilst we compile an entry that is factually accurate. I apologise if some appeared to be POV, I quickly copied an entry from our website to remove the information that is defamatory to the school.. |
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Is there any way we can lock this information for the school as the information at the moment throws our establishment into disrepute. |
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ackland.r@aylesford-elearning.net <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rackland75|Rackland75]] ([[User talk:Rackland75|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rackland75|contribs]]) 19:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The article can be locked but it is not our policy to lock articles from editing unless there is an edit war or persistent vandalism on an article. Articles should be balanced and both negative and positive things should be given in the article, we are not here to promote a specific school by only giving positive things about them. |
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:Are you saying that the school has never held specialist status? [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:26, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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As a school, we do often have vandalism to our site, both with students from our school and those of a neighbouring school - there has been quite a bit over the years and we are thankful for your moderation during this time. |
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We are currently preparing a factual historical record of the school to be included in this artical. |
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The Statement entitled Ofsted Report Aftermath, we believe was added by a disgruntled ex student. We believe that it is inaccurate in many ways. i.e |
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The resulting report did not have any bearing on change in status - that was a decision of the school prior to the Ofsted report. |
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The schools results exceed that national average if you look at the national data. |
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The specialist subjects either equal or exceed the national average based on national data |
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The decision to change the name of the school was an executive decision to bring it into line with the changing political emphasis on specialist schools. |
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The school did have specialist status like many schools in the country. This was a fluid status and changed over the last 9 years. However the outcome of the last ofsted was nothing to do with the change of status - moreover the change was because of changing in government funding away from specialist statuses. We now actually hold a Humanities specialist status, but that will change when/if we become an academy. We are producing an historical document of the school which we will include all these details as well as the factual history about the school. |
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To say the ofsted report was 'Damning' was a point of view and I would argue overly negative. The Osfted report highlighted many positive points about the school and well as areas to improve (like all Ofsted reports) -As a school we are not ashamed of this report and it is freely available on our website and a link on Wikipedia. I feel a reader should be directed to this rather than have someone elses opinions discussing the report. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rackland75|Rackland75]] ([[User talk:Rackland75|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rackland75|contribs]]) 20:58, 16 June 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Please note that you will have to provide third party published sources (such as newspaper articles, official reports etc.) for the school history and not rely upon information from the school itself. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 21:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== York meetup == |
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Hi Keith D. Just to let you know there is a Wikimedia meetup [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Wikipedia:Meetup/York being planned in York] for Tuesday. —[[User:Tom Morris|Tom Morris]] ([[User talk:Tom Morris|talk]]) 15:52, 17 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:Sorry I am on holiday next week so am not available. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 15:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC) |
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* Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,918 last month to 8,974 on May 23rd). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 68 is just ahead of [[WP:GM]] who have 63. [[WP:GM]] has the lead in FAs at 51 out of a total number of 2,439 articles. |
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Most of you should have spotted the advertisement for the [[Wikipedia:Contribution_Team/Backlogs|Great Backlog Drive]] that is under way at the moment. This is an initiative to reduce the number of tags that are attached to articles by attempting to fix as many of these as possible. Of cause some tags are more of a problem to fix than others but the purpose of the drive is to cut down the overall number of articles that have identified problems in them, rather than concentrate on specific problems. It would be good if project members got involved in this and fixed tags that they come across in their editing. It would also be helpful to avoid tagging new problems by fixing them when you spot the problem, though if you cannot fix it then tag for someone else to look at. |
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The project clean up listing gives a list of the more common tags attached to the project's articles, of which 32.1 % are marked for clean up, and can be found - |
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== [[Edenham, Grimsthorpe, Elsthorpe and Scottlethorpe]] == |
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[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|30px|link=]][[Template:Sheffield & Hallamshire Senior Cup Seasons]] has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:Sheffield & Hallamshire Senior Cup Seasons|the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page]].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> [[User:Delusion23|Delusion23]] ([[User talk:Delusion23|talk]]) 00:05, 8 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi Keith. Hope you had a good holiday. Please see my comments at [[Talk:Edenham, Grimsthorpe, Elsthorpe and Scottlethorpe]] on the name of the [[civil parishes in England|civil parish]], which appears to still be ''Edenham''. [[User:Skinsmoke|Skinsmoke]] ([[User talk:Skinsmoke|talk]]) 05:00, 22 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Would you mind helping me properly integrate materials, cite references and format [[Firby]]? You get the credit! :) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.183.166.130|64.183.166.130]] ([[User talk:64.183.166.130|talk]]) 12:34, 13 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Possibly. Looks rather confused at the moment and difficult to follow as appears to to about a surname and various different locations. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 14:16, 13 March 2011 (UTC) |
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I've offered the IP who threatened you up for AIV block. We can't accept threats like that on WP. Keep up the great work... and enjoy your holiday! '''[[User:Thecheesykid|<span style="font-family:Bodoni MT; color:#669933;">That Ole Cheesy Dude</span>]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Thecheesykid|<span style="font-family:Bodoni MT; color:#FF9900;">Talk to the hand!</span>]])</sup> 02:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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I think the point is to isolate its founding origins and derived locations of "Firby, Hambleton", by tracing movements of the people involved, and that in the main, it is about the location that has provided most surname bearers into the present day, being the most influential (the other most influential is derived from Ferriby, via a Kentish branch of that family). Disambiguation is preferential, without making altogether many stub articles, but rather to redirect people who are interested in other, unrelated homophones or false friends. I would like to integrate historical records from the British government that are referred to on the discussion page, especially from the time in which the placename and surname was still Fritheby, because this seems to be the easiest form of disambiguation in origins between the various places or people derived from there and elsewhere. This means older records make it easier to tell if somebody came from there, rather than elsewhere sounding or looking similar in spelling, even though the records are in Anglo-Norman. Middle and Modern English versions connected to this name can be more speculative and possibly misinformative, and I do not wish for confusion because of similarities. The pre-Conquest period of the village appears to have potential, and ought to be as primary in focus for foundations as Anglo-Saxon settlements are generally well known in the time before 1066, since it is known from Domesday that this place was indeed founded by the reign of Harold Godwinson. Consistent records continue to be the case with this village until the time of Richard II, but the subsequent Roses era is the most difficult for me to discover anything about it. |
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:Thanks for that, cannot see what I have done to them from their single valid edit must be a roving IP address. Yes I enjoyed the break though got wet a few times - typical Derbyshire weather. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 09:14, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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It would appear that those with toponymical surnames, although originally, or long resident in their place, probably began moving out of their home villages at the time of the colonial settlements in America, because this surname is present in Bedale around this time, and not much later, although surrounding concentric circles outward show some local dispersal of those holding the name, as well as having renamed certain places after it, even into the New World. Studies in English population change point at least to the Elizabethan era, if not the Peasants' Revolt period after the Black Death caused disruptions. Perhaps the reason why I am not finding records is due to the Plague, but I am uncertain as to what extent that afflicted this part of Yorkshire, and indeed, have never studied its effects upon England in general. |
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Now, as to the disambiguation of "Firby, Hambleton"...this looks out of place. Most government documents, whether medieval or contemporary, refer to it in conjunction with Bedale, as in Bedale-cum-Cowling, and this format is how Firby was historically disambiguated from that near Westow. I would support making the "Firby" article into one for disambiguation, and transfer most of the information presently there, in a more refined and readable format, on a "Firby, Bedale" article. This would require a redirect from the present article, and relevant wikilink adjustments. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.183.166.130|64.183.166.130]] ([[User talk:64.183.166.130|talk]]) 05:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The village article should have very little, if any, of the family name material in it apart from a sentence on the origin in its history section. The dab is for Wiki purpose and is in line with our normal naming convention of using the district name when there are 2 places of the same name in the ceremonial county otherwise it would be Firby, North Yorkshire. Firby, Bedale would not be in line with our dab rules. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 12:24, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Seen the revert to "in the West Lindsey district of" - I've done a few of these so I'll have to go back and correct. [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 21:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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I thought that the most common or established form is what Wikipedia looks for. "Firby, North Riding of Yorkshire", is more accurate in the eyes of the residents of Yorkshire, or even "Firby, Hang East", other than "Firby, Bedale", if not "Firby, Richmondshire"--and these are all valid forms long in use for centuries. While Firby was originally separate from Bedale, it came to be included in the same civil parish and poor law, probably because half of the manor was always in the hands of Bedale since the Fitzalan family. Firby is typically made a footnote in discussions of Bedale, if only because most people in the wider world have no point of reference with which to relate to a village or hamlet of such small size, but my purpose here is to compile the known information relevant to it, since the information is usually not all found in one place, and is time consuming. I am sure that would be a worthy endeavour for exposure of the neighbouring Thorp Perrow by having its own article as well, but one thing at a time... I am not so sure that post-1974 [[gerrymandering]] is legitimate as the means of identification, and arbitrary names like "Hambleton" or "North Yorkshire" are not fitting, anymore than "South Yorkshire" (paramount in this kind of fiction) is a real place existing beyond paper, instead of districts like Wakefield, Pontefract, and Hallamshire, all of which are West Riding--the only fourth region within Yorkshire is the Ainsty. Allertonshire has more relevance to Firby as an entity, especially because of the Sigston family that once owned half the manor, since Kirkby Sigston is in Allertonshire, while the Ropner and Grey families in the early 20th century helped establish Firby identity in Durham--all of this is in the low-lying plains from Swale and Ure to Tees, and Allertonshire was originally part of Durham. You are correct in that the people with this name ought to have a separate disambiguation page, but residents--in conjunction with local economy or businesses, especially lords of the manor and their political ties, typically are included in the village histories of England, alongside churches and their histories; otherwise there can be no social dynamic reflected in a geographic article (the "three estates" of worker, lord, and priest, should be described for a complete picture of socioeconomics). I am not looking for complete coverage of those having the surname, and even made an argument against it in my above statement--I am actually apathetic and balk at the idea. My only concern is in linking the original settlement with those named for it, and those bearing the surname responsible. This is the same as tracing "old" York to "New" York, or "old" London to "New" London, etc. The people involved are the only means of making sense of the name duplicated elsewhere, and that is my only point. I am not interested in biographic data and personal issues, unless it bears directly upon the subject of the article. Compare my interest to the biography of [[Christopher Levett]], who founded the first York in the New World, because he himself was from York. I would not base an article of geography about [[York, Maine]] upon Levett's biography, only note that he was the one responsible, and whatever circumstances surrounded it. I would even put this in the "old" York article, because it is an obvious issue of interest, especially for cartographers. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.183.166.130|64.183.166.130]] ([[User talk:64.183.166.130|talk]]) 17:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:We do not use defunct counties/sub-divisions in naming any articles on locations, we use current county / districts for naming articles. If the place is the primary topic, that needs no dab, it goes at <name>, for UK places that need a dab it goes at <name, current ceremonial county>, if there are more than one place of the same name in a ceremonial county it goes by <name, district> or <name, borough> depending on if it is a shire county or metropolitan county. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:54, 15 March 2011 (UTC) |
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A "dab" would depend upon how localities are categorized, as in what system employed. Under the Wikipedia guidelines, is it fine to use the present electoral divisions that you refer to, and then mention in the introduction, the previous widespread categorization, that people still use in informal conversation? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.183.166.130|64.183.166.130]] ([[User talk:64.183.166.130|talk]]) 12:13, 17 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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What info do you think is suitable to be merged into the locale articles? [[User:Fmph|Fmph]] ([[User talk:Fmph|talk]]) 22:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:Location detail, including co-ordinates, links to ofsted reports, former names etc. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 22:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::Can you point to any guidance for that? Or is it just your opinion? Personally if the school itself is not notable, then I don't see any reason to include lists o co-ordinates for local primary schools in town/village/locale articles.[[User:Fmph|Fmph]] ([[User talk:Fmph|talk]]) 22:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Just my opinion, I do not think there is any guidance, the US have articles for the districts listing the school information which UK do not have so including details in the location articles is more appropriate if a separate article is not desired. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 22:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::::It would be much easier to create and maintain such info in list articles such as [[List of schools in Surrey]] as opposed to individual locale articles. It could all be extracted from some of the public domain info sets published by the DfE and reformatted and reworked into a Primary School section. If you can get agreement for it at [[WP:Schools]] I'm up for giving you a hand to put it together. [[User:Fmph|Fmph]] ([[User talk:Fmph|talk]]) 22:36, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi, thanks for stopping by and fixing a few things in the Ashby Canal article. I have been steadily pruning things for which I can find no sources, and am nearly there, but am left with the final para of the Construction sub-section. It ends ''Even though Outram's experience of his treatment by the canal proprietors must have spoilt his satisfaction on the completion of the lines, they were arguably a major achievement and a model for railways in the future.'' I cannot find even a hint of support for most of the paragraph in Hadfield or Clinker & Hadfield, which only leaves Schofield as a possibility. I am not terribly keen on just removing things that others have written, but in view of a number of critical reports made on the workmanship immediately after the tramways were finished, I am not sure this glowing endorsement is warranted. Any thoughts on pruning? [[User:Bob1960evens|Bob1960evens]] ([[User talk:Bob1960evens|talk]]) 16:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Keith D - maybe I'm not getting this citation thing, but maybe you're being over-cautious. |
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:It was added by [[User:Chevin|Chevin]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ashby_Canal&action=historysubmit&diff=76780975&oldid=69584251 this edit] back in September 2006. The user is still active so may be ask them for some sourcing for the information, otherwise it will have to go. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Example: "The Festival...is the principal provider of professional music across the northern Yorkshire Dales. [citation needed]". The northern Yorkshire Dales (as distinct from "North Yorkshire dales") are Wensleydale and Swaledale and their tributaries. (Does that statement itself need a citation? They are self-evidently the northernmost, at any rate.) Within those dales, the Swaledale Festival >is< the principal provider of professional music. I state that categorically, as chairman of the Festival, as ex-chairman of the Regional Arts Development Agency for Richmondshire, and as a trustee of the Richmondshire subscription concerts society (which is probably the second largest provider). So do I cite myself? Do I cite a colleague from the District Council or Arts Council (who would probably be reliant on me for the information)? How, in a case like this, can a citation be provided? [[User:Nreckert|Nick]] ([[User talk:Nreckert|talk]]) 13:47, 19 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:What needs a citation is that they are the "Principal provider of professional music" it need a third party reference saying this, not from anyone associated with the festival, but some other published reliable source. See [[WP:CITE]] & [[WP:RS]]. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 16:18, 19 March 2011 (UTC) |
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I hope I didin't offend you by constantly removing the header banner on the wikipedia page of Simon Baldry. I keep removing it because I think the page looks shabby with it. I have been working on the page for a while and I have not finished with it as I still have quite a lot of information to add to it. |
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I support Huddersfield Town and Simon Baldry is my favorite player. I heard that a lot of League clubs are interested in him at the moment and I keep removing the banner to improve the look of the page. If a club Manager goes on the page to do some research before a potentiel buy, it does not look shabby with the banner on it. |
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Hi Keith, |
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I Will add the relevant links and references to the page when I complete it. Until then the banner will remain. |
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Thanks for the edit re: [[Burnby Hall Gardens]] |
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Sorry again, Michael. |
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I chose to edit the page as part of a question on an assignment from the Open University about using Wikipedia. |
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P.S. Please let me know how I can add a picture to the page. If I send you one could you do it for me? |
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As I live in Pocklington I thought I'd go for something local. |
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Kind regards. [[User:Michael Thesus|Michael Thesus]] ([[User talk:Michael Thesus|talk]]) 16:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. I must say that I also do not like that tags but they are there for a purpose. I personally would not display them for non-logged in users apart from tags related to the accuracy of the information. If the image is suitably freely licensed, cannot be fair use as the person is still alive, then it can be uploaded. I can upload images if I can access it, though you can do it yourself see [[Wikipedia:Uploading images|Upoading Images]]. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC) |
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One of the requirements for my course is to have someone review the entry that i made......."ask a colleague, fellow student or friend to critically assess the changes you had made – quote from his or her verdict on your edits" |
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== [[Titus Salt]] == |
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Just wondering if you would be kind enough to spare a few words, less than 50, on my first effort......... |
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I know the editor inserting this has a history, but I am puzzled as to why Titus Salt is not a notable Bradfordian when he was the largest employer in the town before building Saltaire and also a mayor.--[[User:Charlesdrakew|Charles]] ([[User talk:Charlesdrakew|talk]]) 22:02, 7 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:It appears to be the consensus from previous reverts here that they do not want the list extending. I think that they are considering a separate list article and removing the existing list completely from the Bradford article. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 22:09, 7 July 2011 (UTC) |
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[[User:Chris255|Chris255]] ([[User talk:Chris255|talk]]) 17:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:Well done on your first edit. The changes you made to the article [[Burnby Hall Gardens]] complied with our policy of being written from a [[WP:N|neutral]] point of view. Though it did contain some [[WP:PEACOCK|peacock]] words, such as "amazing" which should be avoided in articles. A [[WP:RS|reliable source]] was supplied, though misplaced at the end of the article. Formatting of the source was not supplied but then you would not expect new editors to know about this and comes with experience. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:33, 3 April 2011 (UTC) |
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Just a heads up, I've been having a similar problem with [[Nick Ferrari]] (3 edits yesterday and 1 today so far relating to his political stance). Might take it to one of the admin noticeboards though as I don't want to get tripped up by the 3RR rule. Cheers [[User:TheRetroGuy|TheRetroGuy]] ([[User talk:TheRetroGuy|talk]]) 11:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Woodhall Spa]] == |
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:I have given them a final warning on this so that they can be blocked if they continue to add this imfo. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 12:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC) |
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I notice that you reverted a cheeky edit on this article on March 5th, and that you seem to be keeping an eye on [[Woodhall Spa]] historically. I started odd bits of copyediting and removing excess but then realised that there was a major "edit" on March 29th that seemed to throw the whole article off-kilter. I am hoping you will take a look here again - does it need to be reverted to your March 5th version? Be glad for your help before I carry-on tweaking the article. [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 16:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:I do not think that it needs a revert as some good bits in it, though poorly referenced and a bit promotional in places. I have got used to that particular editor, often under an IP address, with their strange edit summaries and major changes, not very responsive to changing their habits either. I usually find that you can use the info and create something useful from it. I would carry on copy-editing it. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 17:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for that. I'll build on the earlier version in a word doc, taking anything useful from the latest. [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 17:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi Bmcln1, Regarding the deleting of the section on "Queens Campus". There is nothing irrelevant about the true location of these two colleges, unless you are trying to hide the fact that they are neither in County Durham nor Stockton. Thornaby-on-Tees was only included into Stockton's borough in 1974 for Parliamentary purposes. Conspiring to mislead and/or deceive the general public is a criminal offence. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.19.185.41|86.19.185.41]] ([[User talk:86.19.185.41|talk]]) 12:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I am not user Bmcln1. But the information seems irrelevant to the article. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 12:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC) |
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Can you explain why it seems irrelevant to you? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.19.185.41|86.19.185.41]] ([[User talk:86.19.185.41|talk]]) 06:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:A single location detail is fine, without a long explanation of where it is which is not relevant to an encyclopaedia. If you want details on the location then go to the linked location article. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 11:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== [[Greg Knight]] == |
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Is he married, its clearly disputed - all we have is that deadlink - no wayback either, and google results don't return anything - can you assert he is married? [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 12:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:It was removed as it was a drive-by by new user without comment - I reverted as vandalism as it appeared to be valid information. The GRO Index has the entry in July 1992 in Westminster - see [http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&f1=gregory&f0=knight&sx=&f10=&rg_f11__date=&rs_f11__date=0&f3=&f13=&f2=ormond&gskw=&prox=1&db=onsmarriage1984&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=0&h=5817522&recoff=&qid=a7be0f59fb994736a8f566182ba6daae here] {{Subscription}} [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 13:04, 6 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::Ancestry dot com is original research, it has been removed again - please do not replace it unless you can assert using secondary wikipedia reliable citations that the subject is married today. As a suggestion - although his maritial status is worthy of mention it is not am essential part of his notability and if we have only weak claims for it and it is disputed for the time being it is better left out of the BLP. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 16:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Ancestry is just one supplier of a copy of the official indexes produced by the GRO and is as reliable as you get for the birth/marriages/deaths, there is no original research here. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 16:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::The original research is that you have to go looking for it, it is not a secondary published reliable source. Such a source is not what we are here to report. Yesterday I had a look around the Internet and did not find a degree of support for the claim that the subject is married now, if you can please assert it and we can replace the comment??? Have you got additional support for this claim? [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 16:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::{{tps}}: Who's Who does not mention any marriage for Knight, though does so for another married MP - which of course may either mean that he's not married now or that he doesn't include it in info he provides to Who's Who. Couldn't think of an example to check, but presumably in some cases Who's Who will include ex-marriages for divorced people, but only if the subject chooses to list them. (It's online via public library) [[User:PamD|PamD]] ([[User talk:PamD|talk]]) 17:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::There is mention of his wife Janet [http://www.driffieldintouch.com/news/126/ here] and [http://www.bridlingtonfreepress.co.uk/news/local/crowds_flock_to_see_classic_cars_1_1712626 here]. The ''Daily Telegraph'' gives name as Janet Ormond [http://parliament.telegraph.co.uk/mpsexpenses/mp-details/Greg+Knight/mp-11026 here]. He declares the employment of his wife Janet Ormond on 29 October 2010 in the House of Commons Liaison Committee minutes [http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/liaison/Formal-Minutes-2010-11.pdf here]. Are these sufficient? [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 18:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thanks, this seems to be sufficient to me, is this event report from 2011? can this event be dated? [http://www.driffieldintouch.com/news/126/ http://www.driffieldintouch.com/news/126/] - the others support but seem a bit dated [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 19:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::Probably recent as it is still on the web site but have no idea. If you are re-instating suggest note in text as well as infobox entry. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::::I have replaced in the infobox with a couple of these supports, feel free to add to the article body text also, your searching and presented citations has imo - indisputably asserted marriage and name to the very recent past. Thank you. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 19:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::::He still employs his wife according to the latest register of interests as of 28 March 2011 as prepared on 1 April 2011 [http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/110328/part2.htm here]. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 19:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC) |
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[[WP:FL|Featured Lists]] have been promoted during the last month and have now been given their own weekly slot on the [[WP:MAIN|main page]]. Lists appear on the front page on Mondays just above "Today's featured picture". This may be extended to other days at a later date if people like it. In line with this I have also added a box for lists on to the [[Portal:Yorkshire|Yorkshire Portal]] and created a couple of entries to start it off, more will be added later. |
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Just a reminder for those members in the UK that there is the [http://wikiconferenceuk2011.eventbrite.com/ WikiConference UK 2011] that takes place in [[Bristol]] on 16 April 2011. This will incorporate the [http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Wikimedia UK's] annual conference. It would be good if the project has some members who could attend and support the event. Opportunities are available to get more widely involved in the direction of the UK chapter. If you have time you can volunteer and get involved by just contacting them [http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership here]. |
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The project currently has 12 featured lists, out of 208 project articles identified as lists, and it would be good if we could get some of these on to the front page. Of anyone wants to take this up they need to create an entry for the list and nominate them to be considered [[Wikipedia:Today's featured list/submissions|here]]. |
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Lists are easier than articles to get to featured status as there is less prose to be created and the bulk of the page is the list itself. Most of the project's current featured lists are on football related topics and it would be good to get a broader range of topics for out Featured Lists. Some of the 208 lists could be brought up to featured status with a little bit of work, if any one wants to take up the challenge. |
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Thanks for [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Yorkshire/Members&diff=next&oldid=438997748 this] - sorry, I hadn't realized that the formatting had gone wrong. Thanks! [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 00:48, 12 July 2011 (UTC) |
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I see you reverted my edit to the external links for the page on [[Retford]], I added a link to my site www.retford-web-design.co.uk I have seen many links on wikipedia to other personal sites so why was mine removed? |
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:Yes. It can be tagged for the project. It can only just been placed in a Yorkshire category or I would have spotted it and given it at least a {{tl|WPBIO}} tag when I passed the D's earlier today. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks - yes I only added the article an hour ago. [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 21:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks for the fixes - I always get something wrong however much I try not to; it's nice to know people are there to pick-up my mistakes. I'll remember to fully fledge-out the months. And the ISBNs - I just copied from the source - now I know how to do it for Wikipedia. These are the things I'm weak on as my main joy is re-writing, and creating articles when I get the time and, for me, an interesting topic. But I am learning ! [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 23:39, 17 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:It was removed as advertising which is not allowed on Wikepedia as per our [[WP:EL|external links]] policy. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 09:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC) |
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interview request
Hello, My name is Natalia Olaru and I am a final year master student in the Corporate Communication programme at the Aarhus School of Business in Denmark. I am currently working on my final paper on the topic of the motivation of users to create content on collaborative media websites, the focus being Wikipedia. As a sample I chose the English and Danish portals. I would like to invite you for an online interview on the topic of what motivates you, as a user, to participate in editing and creating articles for this platform. Your real identity, and wikipedia account will be kept confidential through the paper. I plan on doing the actual interviews in the period between 6st and the 15th of May via Skype, MSN, Google Talk or Yahoo Messenger. I am, however, open to other channels of communication too. Please let me know if you would like to participate in this interview and the preferred channel. Thank you, Natalia Olaru Email: natalia.ioana.olaru@gmail.com --MulgaEscu (talk) 12:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Railgauge templates
Hi Keith - welcome home. I hope you had a good holiday.
In your absence there has been a discussion about the output of the railgauge templates over 1 foot and under 2 feet. In response to a request from Peter Horn you changed these to give an output in "feet and inches", but concerns have been expressed that this nomenclature is not used by those railways themselves, or by others referring to them, who almost always use the "whole number of inches" form of language - for example "15 inch gauge", not "1 foot, 3 inch gauge". The discussion, which has included Peter Horn, appears to have reached a consensus that we should return to the original output of "whole number of inches" for the imperial side of things, but nobody involved has the skills to make the necessary changes. I wonder if you might be prepared to assist? You can read the discussion at Template talk:RailGauge#Gauges between 1 ft and 2 ft. Thank you. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 10:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Keith
At the sane time please take a look at Template talk:RailGauge#530 mm - 21 inch. Peter Horn User talk 15:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)- Oops, make that "same time". Peter Horn User talk 15:26, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi again Keith. The main work has now been done. Tivedshambo (talk · contribs) has made the railgauge alterations. However you might still like to read the discussion, and also Peter Horn's additional comment above. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 09:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oops, make that "same time". Peter Horn User talk 15:26, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
request help with bot behaviour in lincolnshire geo projects
Hi KeithD - Ive been busy working on some of the smaller places in Lincolnshire, and have created some pages such as North Forty Foot Bank and Pelhams Land and if I try and put in a pl: category, a bot comes along and takes it of again. Any ideas how to resolve this? Many thanks. Panderoona (talk) 10:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, the reason the BOT removes the interwiki link is that the page does not exist on the Polski wiki. You will have to create the article on that wiki for the interwiki link (pl:) to be useful here. Keith D (talk) 19:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- aaaaaaaaaah I see now. doh I thought it was pl = place - not pl = polski. Thanks Keith. :) Panderoona (talk) 07:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Bravery
I may be putting noses out of joint I have no idea but being new Im also being brave and just doing what seems logical to me. I consolidated Tumby/Tumby Woodside/Tumby Moorside and I consolidated Dogdyke/Hawthorn Hill/Tattershall Ferry (or Bridge). and so on and so forth. Whilst I am not actually local to Lincolnshire, I have a great love of the place which stems from happy childhood memories and a family history totally Lincs back to the 1500s. Im a real yellerbelly but I am actually a southerner - being born in Surrey. I have little interest there since my roots are firmly in the East Midlands. I have tried to make additions that matter to places in Lincolnshire which are low category because otherwise they wouldnt get done, and frankly, its safer that way. Dealing with a big important place is a bit more scary, and Im still new here. Hoping very much that I am doing ok and not stepping on anyones toes. Panderoona (talk) 21:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. I tend to try and keep places separate, but that is just my preference, rather than group them together. Keith D (talk) 21:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- Understood - and mostly I'd agree, although there are occasions where it seems the only way to collate any information at all. In the case of Tumby theres not much to say about it apart from the old railway station which has its own page. I did one on North Forty Foot Bank - and within the scope of that lies settlements such as Hedgehog Bridge and Toft Tunnel which are barely even marked on the map. So I kind of do what seems right at the time - after all, it can always be changed. Wainfleet St Mary pointed to Wainfleet (All Saints) but I managed to find something on the place, undid the 'revert to' and created a page. Hopefully anyone with more info will come along one day and do the same with places like Tumby and North Forty Foot Bank. :) Liking your work by the way Panderoona (talk) 20:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
FARC
I have nominated Sheffield Wednesday F.C. for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Arsenikk (talk) 09:36, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
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Would later become
I see you have been amending "would later become" to "later became". Bravo! It is a most annoying phrase and an example of the sloppiest style of writing. I alter it whenever I come across it. Another one that annoys me is the use of "featuring" or "features" as in "the album features the song XXXXX" when "includes" would suffice. Keep it up. Emeraude (talk) 12:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. There are hundreds of them, I have only done the articles with the word Yorkshire in, apart from 1 which appears to be a quote. I am surprised that it appears in FA articles. Keith D (talk) 12:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Ravensworth
Hi, is the Ravensworth article still only at "Start" level? I'm getting some books out from the library as soon as time permits, as a lack of raw information is what is holding me back. Farrtj (talk) 17:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- A quick look at it and it looks like a C-class now. Main problems are the references, your latest set of edits has introduced an error in one of the entries, and the lead which needs to be expanded as per WP:LEAD. It may be best to leave the lead until after you have expanding the article. Keith D (talk) 18:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello Keith
Hi Keith,
It's been quite a while; I hope all's well. I've not been very active with the project for a while now, but circumstances have changed and I find I'm able to start easing back into editing again more regularly. If you like, you can also unprotect my user pages; I'd honestly forgotten they were semi-protected after that vandalism spree until the last few days. I think I'm safe now.
Cheers, Northumbrian (talk) 19:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, nice to see you back in action. There has been no movement on the Hull City players article since you were last around but the season overview article was redone in the standard format and promoted to FL status.
- I have unprotected your user page - I had forgotten that I had protected it. Keith D (talk) 22:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- See also Talk:Dolly (trailer)#I.T.E.C. ?
Hi Keith
User:AtholM deemed any and all of the following links "spam".
- I.T.E.C. Inc., Converter dollies and other options OK
- I.T.E.C. Inc., Converter dollies and other options([dead link ]?)
- I.T.E.C. C-Dolly([dead link ]?)
- I.T.E.C. H-Dolly or tandem dolly([dead link ]?)
Your input please. Peter Horn User talk 00:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Keith
I'm awaiting your reply/opinion. Peter Horn User talk 20:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)- I have not responded as I have no knowledge of the subject. I cannot see why a manufacturer link is counted as spam if that is the only way of referencing the item in question. Keith D (talk) 21:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- My question was/is: Do any, or all, of the above links constitute "advertsing" per se and hence does their inclusion under the heading "External links" constitute "spam" in any way whatsoever as AtholM so insistenly maintains. If he be right then we should remove all manufactuters webistes from the "External links" section of all articles. Knowledge, or no knowledge, of this or any other subject is not the issue here, or anywhere else. What is the issue is whether or not the inclusion of manufacturers websites as references in the "External links" section of the Dolly (trailer) article and all other articles constitutes "spam". No frivolous exceptions. To get right down to it, all corporate websites are to a large extend advertising. You (I quote you) "cannot see why a manufacturer link is counted as spam if that is the only way of referencing the item in question". May be you can help me to convince AtholM of that. Peter Horn User talk 16:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Added: (for good measure)
- Publiquip
- Remorque ASETRAIL: Atelier Ste-Émilie ([dead link ]?)
- Asetrail
- Remorque ASETRAIL: Atelier Ste-Émilie
Peter Horn User talk 17:40, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- WP:ELOFFICIAL provides an exception for the official web site of the subject of the article. If the articles are about the subject then their official web site can be used in the External links section under this exception regardless of what the "Links to be avoided" section says. In this case it looks as though the topics are about general items that could come from various manufacturers so to single out a single one for inclusion would be wrong. If you say that there is no other resource for a particular one of these then I would expect that link could be used in the references section of the article. If it is a more general article on the topic then it could appear in the External links section. Keith D (talk) 20:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- That is why I added Asetrail above (three that work). So far it is the only other manufacturer I have been able to find. Peter Horn User talk 00:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Merge discussion for Winterbourne, Gloucestershire
An article that you have been involved in editing, Winterbourne, Gloucestershire , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Skinsmoke (talk) 10:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks!
[1] duh? what was I thinking? Active Banana (bananaphone 17:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
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- Thanks for that, but you have done most of the graft on the article. Keith D (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Reverse edits
Thank you very much for pointing out the reversing of units. I've stopped the bot and I can now see how it happened. I'll fix it and track back through the articles.
With regard to 'sp=us', it's a requirement. The old template defaults to US spelling, the new one defaults to non-US spelling. Therefore to prevent a spelling change, I'm obliged to add 'sp=us'. If you look at the article before and after the edit, you'll see that the spelling hasn't changed. You'd have to go back into the article history to see who added the US spelling. The upside is that 'sp=us' is visible in edit mode (unlike the previous default) and can be corrected more easily.
Thanks again. Lightmouse (talk) 21:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have change a few articles that are on my watchlist. Keith D (talk) 21:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for doing those. I've identified and fixed more. There shouldn't be any reversals left now. Thanks for letting me know. Lightmouse (talk) 10:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
You're right. I verified it. I have to remember to check the quarter as well as the year. I'll fix Liz Smith and Cathleen Nesbitt (same mistake). Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 23:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Barrow AFC
Hi, I noticed your recent edit on the page Barrow A.F.C., Please note your edit has been removed as it has be classed as vandalism. If you have any questions please state them on my user talk page, Thanks. Barrovian (talk) 12:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I cannot see how you can class this as vandalism, I was just completing the team name as per what appears to be the consensus of WP:FOOTY. Keith D (talk) 12:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I looked at wp:vandal and it doesn't look like vandalism to me. I wonder how many other edits are being reverted and how many other good faith editors are being accused. Barrovian, can you look again and see if you're mistaken here and elsewhere? Lightmouse (talk) 13:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Keith. I just noticed Barrovian claims to be 13 years old. Based on the frequency of edits, I suspect it's a flyby revert. Feel free to undo the revert. Or ignore it, as you wish. If it gets reverted again, we can take it up somewhere relevant and I'll join the discussion. Lightmouse (talk) 13:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was thinking of opening a general discussion on this on WP:FOOTY as we seem to keep getting the problem with a number of editors on lower league articles, yet we are inconsistent, in that the major English clubs appear to have the F.C./A.F.C. absent. Keith D (talk) 15:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes ... forgive my butting in here but when you look at the Project I'm sure you'll want to check the Talk archives. It's been discussed a fair bit before and every so often someone comes along and starts a new crusade to make sure that all the infobox headers must - right now - say just Townname, or Townname FC, or Townname AFC, or Townname F.C., or Townname A.F.C., or whatever. I accidentally got involved in one of these sprees a while back, and wished I had not - it's a real can of worms and attracts some, er, interesting views - I'm not sure if it ever reached a conclusion, or maybe I just didn't see it, as I may have started to lose the will to live a little somewhere along the line. I wish you luck with it. (In passing I thought "has to be classed as vandalism" above was spectacularly inappropriate - I've never really seen you as one of Wikipedia's more active vandals - and I congratulate you on not reacting strongly to it!) :) Best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the warning, can you give a link to the discussion as I cannot locate it at the moment. Keith D (talk) 18:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll have a look and get back to you asap. It was a while ago ... DBaK (talk) 23:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I've recalled a bit more about what it was. had an editing spree on removing FC etc from the clubname parameter from football club infoboxes. It seems that then the consensus was that it should be there, although now it looks like there may be consensus that it should not. See this for example. Now my recollection of what went on is a bit shaky but I think I got tangentially involved with this, found it a bit tricky, and then when I went to the Footy project to try and see what the consensus was, found that very difficult to nail down. Maybe it is better now - I'm not sure. One thing that muddies it a bit was that this was a rather specific sub-debate about that infobox parameter, whereas the debates in the project are quite often about the article name itself... I'm still unclear as to whether they should or should not be the same thing. I cannot now find the specific things I remember from then but stuff like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mossley_A.F.C.#Protection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_29#Naming_conventions_for_clubs.3F http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_29#Difference_between_FC_.26_F.C..3F are the kinds of things that confused me. Maybe it's better now. I'm not really helping much, am I? Sorry! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 23:43, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I remember Sarumio and the problems we had then. Keith D (talk) 00:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the warning, can you give a link to the discussion as I cannot locate it at the moment. Keith D (talk) 18:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Response on my page. Bob1960evens (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Dear Keith, today I created an article on Somerby near Brigg, which falls in the West Lindsey district of Lincs. I then realised that there is also a Somerby near Gainsborough in the West Lindsey district of Lincs. (As well as Old Somerby near Grantham, Somersby near Spilsby (article already exists) and Somerby Leics. My question is, with two places in West Lindsey - the one I created being near Brigg, and the other uncreated, what would be an appropriate name for a page on Somerby near Gainsborough, West Lindsey? Many thanks for your advice on this. Panderoona (talk) 19:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC) Sorry re-editing due to my own spelling mistake. Panderoona (talk) 19:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- My gazetteer has the one near Bigby as Somerby (juxta Bigby) which you could use for one of them, the other one could be then be just Somerby, West Lindsey with a {{Distinguish}} HAT note. If not then you will have to go with Somerby near Gainsborough. While you are there can you take a look at Grasby which I checked while investigating this and think that should be in West Lindsey rather than North Lincolnshire. Keith D (talk) 19:59, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much - imminent grandson/probs with elder family members may prevent me giving input pls refer either to my own page of those of Acabashi, Sitush, Carole_henson if you dont hear from me tomorrow or in the next couple of days. I value your decision and would go with it but have real life to deal with as well. Many thanks for your input it is very much appreciated. Sorry if there is no immediate response forthcoming, but it WILL be done Panderoona (talk) 20:05, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Corrected Grasby & added infobox. Have not worked on citations for that article but will do so in time :) Panderoona (talk) 13:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, I could not work out the border from the online map but the map in the imfobox shows it south of the North Lincolnshire border. Keith D (talk) 17:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Welcome - I followed your advice on renaming Somerby. Somerby, West Lindsey points to the Gainsborough one, and I moved the original one (Somerby, Lincolnshire) to Somerby (Juxta Bigby), Lincolnshire - stupidly I forgot to remove the Lincolnshire bit, but, at least they are done. I also left a note on Talk page for future editors regarding two Somerbys in West Lindsey, and the hat note at the top of the article page. Panderoona (talk) 17:41, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, I could not work out the border from the online map but the map in the imfobox shows it south of the North Lincolnshire border. Keith D (talk) 17:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Corrected Grasby & added infobox. Have not worked on citations for that article but will do so in time :) Panderoona (talk) 13:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Two more
Hi Keith,
At Template talk:RailGauge#Please add I posted 5 ft 1⁄2 in (1,537 mm) or 60.5 and 1062mm (1,062 mm (3 ft 5.8 in)*). Peter Horn User talk 17:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- I noticed that the 1/2 in or 0.5 in "got lost in the shuffle". Peter Horn User talk 19:00, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Too quick, I am still trying to get that to come out. Keith D (talk) 19:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK - though comes with a zero. Keith D (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Too quick, I am still trying to get that to come out. Keith D (talk) 19:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Peter Horn User talk 20:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi
Another two more at Template talk:RailGauge#Please add & a correction required at Template talk:RailGauge#Rail gauge correction required Peter Horn User talk 00:19, 21 June 2011 (UTC)- Both of these seem to have been queried on the talk page. Keith D (talk) 13:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi
- For Georgian Railways#History please add (912mm) to replace (912 mm (2 ft 11.91 in)*) Peter Horn User talk 01:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
- The source for this is a dead link in the article - is there a live link for it? Keith D (talk) 08:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
- Finding a new link will take some doing (a lot of work). Peter Horn User talk 02:23, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
- The source for this is a dead link in the article - is there a live link for it? Keith D (talk) 08:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
The information about OFSTED and the Information about the school is not correct. The information about OFSTED is completely factually inaccurate and I have been asked by the headteacher to remove this information and to place some temporary information on the page, whilst we compile an entry that is factually accurate. I apologise if some appeared to be POV, I quickly copied an entry from our website to remove the information that is defamatory to the school.. Is there any way we can lock this information for the school as the information at the moment throws our establishment into disrepute.
Richard Ackland Director of E-Learning Aylesford School
01926 747100 ackland.r@aylesford-elearning.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rackland75 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- The article can be locked but it is not our policy to lock articles from editing unless there is an edit war or persistent vandalism on an article. Articles should be balanced and both negative and positive things should be given in the article, we are not here to promote a specific school by only giving positive things about them.
- Are you saying that the school has never held specialist status? Keith D (talk) 20:26, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
As a school, we do often have vandalism to our site, both with students from our school and those of a neighbouring school - there has been quite a bit over the years and we are thankful for your moderation during this time. We are currently preparing a factual historical record of the school to be included in this artical.
The Statement entitled Ofsted Report Aftermath, we believe was added by a disgruntled ex student. We believe that it is inaccurate in many ways. i.e
The resulting report did not have any bearing on change in status - that was a decision of the school prior to the Ofsted report. The schools results exceed that national average if you look at the national data. The specialist subjects either equal or exceed the national average based on national data The decision to change the name of the school was an executive decision to bring it into line with the changing political emphasis on specialist schools.
The school did have specialist status like many schools in the country. This was a fluid status and changed over the last 9 years. However the outcome of the last ofsted was nothing to do with the change of status - moreover the change was because of changing in government funding away from specialist statuses. We now actually hold a Humanities specialist status, but that will change when/if we become an academy. We are producing an historical document of the school which we will include all these details as well as the factual history about the school.
To say the ofsted report was 'Damning' was a point of view and I would argue overly negative. The Osfted report highlighted many positive points about the school and well as areas to improve (like all Ofsted reports) -As a school we are not ashamed of this report and it is freely available on our website and a link on Wikipedia. I feel a reader should be directed to this rather than have someone elses opinions discussing the report. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rackland75 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please note that you will have to provide third party published sources (such as newspaper articles, official reports etc.) for the school history and not rely upon information from the school itself. Keith D (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
York meetup
Hi Keith D. Just to let you know there is a Wikimedia meetup being planned in York for Tuesday. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:52, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry I am on holiday next week so am not available. Keith D (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Keith. Hope you had a good holiday. Please see my comments at Talk:Edenham, Grimsthorpe, Elsthorpe and Scottlethorpe on the name of the civil parish, which appears to still be Edenham. Skinsmoke (talk) 05:00, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Response to IP Threat
I've offered the IP who threatened you up for AIV block. We can't accept threats like that on WP. Keep up the great work... and enjoy your holiday! That Ole Cheesy Dude (Talk to the hand!) 02:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, cannot see what I have done to them from their single valid edit must be a roving IP address. Yes I enjoyed the break though got wet a few times - typical Derbyshire weather. Keith D (talk) 09:14, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Seen the revert to "in the West Lindsey district of" - I've done a few of these so I'll have to go back and correct. Acabashi (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Surrey primary schools
What info do you think is suitable to be merged into the locale articles? Fmph (talk) 22:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Location detail, including co-ordinates, links to ofsted reports, former names etc. Keith D (talk) 22:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Can you point to any guidance for that? Or is it just your opinion? Personally if the school itself is not notable, then I don't see any reason to include lists o co-ordinates for local primary schools in town/village/locale articles.Fmph (talk) 22:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just my opinion, I do not think there is any guidance, the US have articles for the districts listing the school information which UK do not have so including details in the location articles is more appropriate if a separate article is not desired. Keith D (talk) 22:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- It would be much easier to create and maintain such info in list articles such as List of schools in Surrey as opposed to individual locale articles. It could all be extracted from some of the public domain info sets published by the DfE and reformatted and reworked into a Primary School section. If you can get agreement for it at WP:Schools I'm up for giving you a hand to put it together. Fmph (talk) 22:36, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just my opinion, I do not think there is any guidance, the US have articles for the districts listing the school information which UK do not have so including details in the location articles is more appropriate if a separate article is not desired. Keith D (talk) 22:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Can you point to any guidance for that? Or is it just your opinion? Personally if the school itself is not notable, then I don't see any reason to include lists o co-ordinates for local primary schools in town/village/locale articles.Fmph (talk) 22:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for stopping by and fixing a few things in the Ashby Canal article. I have been steadily pruning things for which I can find no sources, and am nearly there, but am left with the final para of the Construction sub-section. It ends Even though Outram's experience of his treatment by the canal proprietors must have spoilt his satisfaction on the completion of the lines, they were arguably a major achievement and a model for railways in the future. I cannot find even a hint of support for most of the paragraph in Hadfield or Clinker & Hadfield, which only leaves Schofield as a possibility. I am not terribly keen on just removing things that others have written, but in view of a number of critical reports made on the workmanship immediately after the tramways were finished, I am not sure this glowing endorsement is warranted. Any thoughts on pruning? Bob1960evens (talk) 16:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- It was added by Chevin in this edit back in September 2006. The user is still active so may be ask them for some sourcing for the information, otherwise it will have to go. Keith D (talk) 17:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
for the talk page rv.—Jeremy (talk) 18:37, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Simon Baldry Wikipedia Page :
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Hi there Keith D.
I hope I didin't offend you by constantly removing the header banner on the wikipedia page of Simon Baldry. I keep removing it because I think the page looks shabby with it. I have been working on the page for a while and I have not finished with it as I still have quite a lot of information to add to it. I support Huddersfield Town and Simon Baldry is my favorite player. I heard that a lot of League clubs are interested in him at the moment and I keep removing the banner to improve the look of the page. If a club Manager goes on the page to do some research before a potentiel buy, it does not look shabby with the banner on it. I Will add the relevant links and references to the page when I complete it. Until then the banner will remain. Sorry again, Michael. P.S. Please let me know how I can add a picture to the page. If I send you one could you do it for me? Kind regards. Michael Thesus (talk) 16:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC) |
- Thanks. I must say that I also do not like that tags but they are there for a purpose. I personally would not display them for non-logged in users apart from tags related to the accuracy of the information. If the image is suitably freely licensed, cannot be fair use as the person is still alive, then it can be uploaded. I can upload images if I can access it, though you can do it yourself see Upoading Images. Keith D (talk) 17:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi Keith
I know the editor inserting this has a history, but I am puzzled as to why Titus Salt is not a notable Bradfordian when he was the largest employer in the town before building Saltaire and also a mayor.--Charles (talk) 22:02, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
- It appears to be the consensus from previous reverts here that they do not want the list extending. I think that they are considering a separate list article and removing the existing list completely from the Bradford article. Keith D (talk) 22:09, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Just a heads up, I've been having a similar problem with Nick Ferrari (3 edits yesterday and 1 today so far relating to his political stance). Might take it to one of the admin noticeboards though as I don't want to get tripped up by the 3RR rule. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 11:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have given them a final warning on this so that they can be blocked if they continue to add this imfo. Keith D (talk) 12:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
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Oops/thanks
Thanks for this - sorry, I hadn't realized that the formatting had gone wrong. Thanks! DBaK (talk) 00:48, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Edit reverted
Hello Keith
I see you reverted my edit to the external links for the page on Retford, I added a link to my site www.retford-web-design.co.uk I have seen many links on wikipedia to other personal sites so why was mine removed?
James Cook
- It was removed as advertising which is not allowed on Wikepedia as per our external links policy. Keith D (talk) 09:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
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